Christianity DESTROYED on Tik Tok! | Pastor Reacts

Atheism is just the lack of belief in any gods.

I don't understand these videos where girls put on makeup and talk.

Jesus’ Return, Prophecy, and the Meaning of the Olivet Discourse

Jesus himself said that some but not all of his disciples would still be alive to see him return to earth in the clouds at the right hand of power. But every one of his disciples are dead now.

That sounds convincing if you don't pick up your Bible.

How do you know anything to be objectively real when you've admitted you could be a brain in a vat?

What do you mean by no? Do you mean how am I aware of?

This is the number one video of Christianity getting absolutely annihilated. If this is the best that TikTok has to offer in terms of Christianity, being destroyed, well then you have absolutely nothing to worry about, ladies and gentlemen.

Did you know that TikTok is where Christianity goes to get destroyed? I just did a search for Christians getting destroyed on TikTok and now we're about to see the most popular videos. But will our Christian faith actually get destroyed?

Or is this going to be the biggest nothing burger you've ever seen in your life? We're about to find out. First, welcome back to Wise Disciple. My name is Nate and I'm helping you become the effective Christian that you are meant to be, which entails engaging arguments against Christianity on one of the biggest platforms in the world.

Isn't that weird?

TikTok is...

Anyway, make sure to like, sub, and share this one around, but only if it blesses you. All right, let's get right into it.

Atheism as Mere Lack of Belief

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. I have some really good news for the believers that continue to comment that on my content. It doesn't take any faith at all to be an atheist unless you have faith that Zeus doesn't exist or faith that your God came from nothing.

Atheism is just the lack of belief in any gods. It's not a claim about the origins of the universe. It's not a claim...

I don't understand these videos where girls put on makeup and talk or guys are like, you know, what are they doing? They're working out. Are they like jogging? And then they're also talking to the camera.

That is so... Maybe it's just me, but that is so unnatural and cringe. Like, maybe I'm just too old. I just, I don't understand any of this.

Claim about anything, actually. It's just a lack of belief. You see, atheism requires nothing of me other than honesty. Saying that I'm an atheist is just an easy way of communicating that I'm a person that doesn't hold any belief in any gods or deities.

I'm simply unconvinced. I still find it curious.

Ah, so you see how the... By the way, is this new to you? This is like the old tried and true... Well, actually, it's not true. The talking points from atheists, right? Internet atheists specifically.

But you see how the talking points betray the worldview? Atheism is nothing, guys. It's just a lack of belief. It's like a rocking chair or a loaf of bread, you know? That's all it is, guys. That's what atheism is, you know?

But wait a second. There are arguments for the existence of God that I reject because I'm unconvinced, right? Okay, so if you ask the question, well, why are you unconvinced? Whatever the person says to respond to the question, she's pulling from her worldview to give an answer.

Well, you know, there's no evidence for your god. Okay, well, what do you think evidence is? Well, evidence is only that which can be empirically verified. Oops, your worldview just slipped out. Objective morality doesn't exist.

Okay, well, what do you think morality is? Well, it's a social construct. Ah, girl, put that worldview away. Somebody somewhere thought it was a good idea to frame atheism this way. And I don't, you know, I don't know who that was or how this originated.

But somebody along the lines just thought, yeah, it's a lack of belief, guys. But the bottom line is, there is no such thing as a person who argues against Christianity and also wants to tell you that they lack a belief in the God of the Bible.

You'd have better luck finding the real Santa Claus. You know what I mean? Sorry, kids.

Here's another exciting episode of the stupid. I used to believe when I was a Christian, I literally believe that I was praying to a god. And I sometimes would spend hours praying to this god, definitely daily praying to this god, talking to this god, asking this god for this, that, and the other.

And through all those years and through all those hours, I never heard anything and I never received anything.

So much trauma, so much hurt, so much disappointment. That's actually, this is actually tragic. I think I've seen this guy before. I'm trying to remember what his deal was. He, whatever. Clearly, he's been burned by his experience at church.

I actually, I bet what happened was he was taken in by the Word of Faith movement. He thought that if he would just manifest enough, or if he'd pray with enough faith or pray hard enough, that God would give him health, wealth, and prosperity.

And that, as Voddie Bauckham says, ladies and gentlemen, is a lie straight from the pit of hell. The plight of the Christian is better characterized by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who said, basically, we are bid to come and die.

That's what a Christian is to do. We have to die to self. We have to die to our desires. We have to die to our sin, you know, in order to walk in the ways of Christ, to be set free by the power of the Holy Spirit.

We have to consider that very often God does not grant our requests because what we're asking for is ultimately not best for us. You know, God's no is not his silence. And I think that's, I don't know, that's something that is missed by a lot of people, right?

To confuse those two things is a huge mistake. At the end, I actually, I do this, I ask for prayer for every one of these people that we go through, you know, but definitely remember to pray for, his name is Kyle.

Let's definitely pray for Kyle. All right.

Prophecy, Hermeneutics, and the Destruction of the Temple

And Jesus himself said that some, but not all of his disciples would still be alive to see him return to earth in the clouds at the right hand of power. But every one of his disciples are dead now. And our boy is at least 1950 years late.

So I think it's safe to say we've been stood up. He ain't coming. For a prophecy to have any value at all, it should state clearly and unambiguously what's going to happen to whom, where, and when, and not in symbolic lingo that has to be decoded.

It should be something that wouldn't have happened eventually anyway, but if it is, then it should definitely have a time limit. Without that, you can't claim success either because anything that can happen will happen if given enough time.

I love how somebody who clearly has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to biblical exegesis or hermeneutics wants to tell us how prophecy should work. Instead of going to school, you know, and doing a little bit of work, or even just reading one or two books on how the Jews understood prophecy or how the church understands prophecy.

He's just going to tell us how prophecy should work, guys. Because here's the thing, if he doesn't understand the nature of prophecy or what prophets were doing when they gave those things, how does he know that prophecy does not accomplish what he's asking for in the first place?

I see this style quite a bit and it's, you know, sometimes comical, but a lot of times it's frustrating. You know, these folks, they want to pick up the Bible and take the most uncharitable, shallow view of it and then think that, you know, they're destroying it or something when really they're just boxing in shadows.

It's amazing.

Just look at Jesus's prophecy for the end times. For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ and will mislead many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.

And in various places, there will be famines and earthquakes. People hear this and think, wow, that's how it is now. Well, of course it is. That's how it's always been. Every year for the last couple of millennia, at least, has met every one of those criteria.

Yeah, see, that sounds convincing if you don't pick up your Bible. But when you do and you look a little closer, then you see that Jesus isn't speaking vaguely in the Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24 or even in Luke, all right?

Take a look at this. This is Jesus giving, you know, sort of the descriptors of what's gonna happen because his disciples have asked him the specific question, what will the signs be of his coming, right?

This is what he says in Luke 21, verse 20. When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Is that vague? Is that unclear what Jesus was saying? Jesus said when Jerusalem is surrounded by armies.

Now, the Christians in the first century understood what was going on. Jesus had just finished saying that the temple would be destroyed. So this is somewhere back up in here. Look at this, verse six.

As for these things that you see, the days will come when they will not be left here one stone upon another. It will not be thrown down. That should have been a very shocking statement that would have caught the attention of anybody in the first century, you know?

So the temple's gonna be destroyed and Jerusalem is gonna be surrounded by armies. Jesus goes on to describe that there will be signs in sun and moon and stars and the stars, or excuse me, the heavens, they're gonna shake, you know?

They will be shaken there, verse 26. If you know anything about Old Testament prophetic language, it always refers to a nation being overthrown. You can take a look at Ezekiel, Isaiah, the book of Amos.

I mean, the fact is other nations, right? Egypt, Babylon, and also Israel all fell. The Old Testament describes it and they describe it in the same way. Sun, moon, and stars darkening. The Lord riding on a swift cloud, heavens shaking.

It's very clear if you just do the homework what Jesus was saying in Luke 21, in Matthew 24, because he was talking like a Jewish rabbi to a first century audience who understood him, you know? Not to a 21st century metalhead.

Brain-in-a-Vat Skepticism and Objective Reality

What, how do you know anything to be objectively real when you've admitted you could be a brain in a vat?

What do you mean by no? Do you mean how am I aware of?

Right, how are you aware of objective reality?

I'm aware of reality through my senses.

But that's not what I asked you. I asked you how you're aware of what is objectively real, not what you perceive to be real.

So when I use the term objectively in this context, I'm using it in the sense of not subjective or not contingent upon any one mind within the scope of reality.

So if you look up on TikTok, Christianity getting destroyed, or I forget what the prompt was. This is the number one video of Christianity getting absolutely annihilated. And it's Matt Dillahunty. Man, didn't I say I was not gonna do another Dillahunty video, you know?

And here we are, Merry Christmas. You know? Look, all right, notice the move here, okay? So this is a typical question from Christians. And it's meant to distinguish some kind of criteria for a skeptic or an atheist, which typically considers themselves to be materialists, all right, to identify something objective.

The reason why a Christian asks this question, typically, is because the consequences of saying that the only things that exist are material is that you end up locking yourself inside your own brain. What Christians are doing is they're pointing out that a materialist has no grounding to make objective claims.

And if that's the case, they really have no business being on stage telling their opponents that their position is wrong because what they're really saying is, it's objectively wrong. If there's nothing but, you know, matter and molecules, then your thoughts are locked inside your own brain.

Which means you cannot invade objectively against the outside world. All of your thoughts, including your arguments against the Christian, are not only true objectively, they're not true, they're just these sounds that you make with your mouth.

Now, the alternative is the Christian perspective, which says you have an immaterial soul that resonates with objective truth, because guess what? Objective truth and the laws of logic are immaterial and they transcend us.

They stand above everyone and apply to everyone. But materialists don't wanna admit that. And so here we go with the Christian asking the question about objective reality. Okay, but notice already Dillahunty is shifting, right?

He shifts the question to, oh, you mean, how do I determine reality? So he dropped the objective part because I think he knows that the correct answer is, I mean, if he wants to be intellectually honest and consistent, I have no way of knowing.

That's his answer, but I don't know. TikTok tells me he actually destroys the Christian here, guys, so let's find out.

For example, I'm convinced that I'm in a room with other people right now. And if they agree with me that I'm in a room with them, then we can then work together to investigate reality.

Right, but the fact is you've admitted you could be a brain in a file.

I haven't admitted that I can be, I haven't admitted that I cannot prove that I'm not.

That's right, so therefore it follows that you could be.

But it doesn't follow that you could be.

The fact is, it totally follows that you could be. That's the point of possibility, you know? Well, the problem is this depends on what is meant by the phrase could be, okay? So now congratulations, this is a highfalutin conversation in logic and epistemology, okay?

So again, Merry Christmas. It is epistemically possible that Dillahunty is a brain in a vat because he just said that he cannot rule it out. It is likely not metaphysically possible. So there's your distinction, right?

Epistemic and metaphysical possibility. It's not metaphysically possible, right? Like you would have to argue for a couple of other things first in order to show that kind of possibility. Like whether or not brains can actually exist without a physical body or something, you know?

Does that even make sense to say on a metaphysical level? So there would have to be other arguments to make before talking about metaphysical possibility, but certainly not for epistemic. And I suspect Matt knows that.

Let's face it, I've seen enough of this guy to recognize he just wants to win, all right? When he's on that stage, it's a matter of wordsmithing and saying whatever is necessary to get the upper hand to the point where you literally say with a straight face, I cannot prove that I'm not a brain in a vat, but also it's not at all possible that I'm a brain in a vat, guys, you know?

Now, they both could be more precise with their words. The Christian definitely needs to be more precise with his words. Have you noticed it always does end up coming back to clarification of terms, right?

Definition of terms and how helpful that really is. However, I'm not seeing anybody get destroyed here. You know what I mean? It just seems like this right here boils down to a semantics issue.

The fact that something hasn't been proved to be false does not mean that it's possible or true.

Okay, so you trust your senses and reasoning in order to determine what is real in your reality, right?

Yes.

On what basis do you trust your sense and reasoning?

On their continued reliability at producing effective results.

Okay, now when you...

That sounds like reliabilism, maybe coherentism, you know? I'm not sure. But nevertheless, the problem remains. If you're locked inside your own head and your beliefs work for you, great. But who are you to argue against the billions of Christians around the world whose beliefs also work for them?

You know, the only basis to do something like that is to accept that there are objectively true facts in the world. But as soon as you do that, you've opened the door to transcendent truths, which is where God comes in.

You know what I mean? Oh my gosh. Christianity got destroyed? I don't think so. All right, look, I've seen enough. If this is the best that TikTok has to offer in terms of Christianity being destroyed, well, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about,.

Ladies and gentlemen.

Prayer, Pastoral Concern, and Closing Thoughts

It's amazing to me how little effort is put in to truly understand the religion that these people seem to want to clash with so harshly. All right, now, let me close with this, okay? Let's just remember this.

It's not about making fun. I'm trying not to do that myself, okay? I really am. What these folks need is what I needed when I was an atheist. It's what we all need. They need prayer, okay? They need prayer that they're going to come to their senses by the power of the Holy Spirit and awaken to the light of the gospel, all right?

So let's keep praying for them, specifically Kyle, right? But all of them, you know, it's not too late while they still have breath in their lungs, amen? All right, well, now it's your turn. Were any of these videos destructive to your Christian faith?

Let me know in the comments below. I'd be curious to hear why if the answer is yes. But in the meantime, I hope you're having a restful week, staying close to the Lord, spending time with family, you know, if that's available to you.

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