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Could Joe Biden be a Christian? Welcome to The Wrap Report with your host,

Andrew Rapoport, where we provide biblical interpretation and application. This is a ministry of Striving for Eternity and the

Christian podcast community. For more content or to request a speaker for your church, go to strivingforeternity .org.

All right, well, welcome. By the way, if you hear some music in the background, that is provided by my co -host here,

Bud. He wanted to have some marching music for us while we talk about these issues today.

We'll see how long we keep that running. It's not quite marching to Zion, but still.

Yes. Well, folks, we have a interesting show for you today, because basically what we're going to have is today we want to talk about an article that was put out in the

Christian Post. Now, this is where we're going to start. What we plan to do today is talk about Joe Biden and some of his

Christian comments. Yes, that's right. We're going to talk about some people who are supporting him in this endeavor for election this week.

And then we're going to look and evaluate what they're saying and, well, compare it to Scripture.

And then we'll wrap up with a view that has been put out, a radical view of how to deal with those people.

Those people have the nerve to support Trump. How to deal with them. That's right. The left is providing for us an understanding of how they plan to deal with us when

Biden wins. That is coming to you right now on The Rap Report. So I'm your host,

Andrew Rapaport. Joined with me is my good friend Bud Alheim, who is struggling in the very cold, cold weather of sunny Florida.

Yes, it was like 77 when I got home from work yesterday. So I sat out in the back and did a little

Scripture reading, talk with my bride and just bristled at the chill. Yeah, well,

I had that bristle this morning when I went out, you know, just to stand outside for a little bit and get to breathe in that cool air.

You don't get that. But I am glad to see that for those who who listen to the previous episode on masks, those who are patriots can watch and see that Bud's microphone is still masked up.

It has its mask on. It's saying to repent. So I'm glad that it's still wearing its mask. And we will we will be recording a another episode on masks.

That was that one we did with Dr. Sevestro got a lot of feedback, a lot of both good and bad people who have strong views on masks.

We've learned that and we will be doing an episode that will probably drop next week.

I'll tell you that up front with Pastor Andrew Smith dealing with the masks issue from a biblical perspective.

So, you know, if if Biden wins, that's going to be a very necessary discussion because, you know, he's claiming that we're going to be wearing masks, you know, even if we're driving alone in our car.

But we'll get to that. All right. Let's get to this article. I was

I was very surprised to see an article from, you know, by Joe Biden in the

Christian Post. So this is a magazine geared toward Christians. This is something that I want us to go through and examine.

What exactly is whoever really wrote this? Because I think we both can understand that Joe Biden didn't write it.

He had someone write it. He probably maybe reviewed it. Maybe he didn't even review it. I mean, we don't he doesn't even know what state he's in.

I was going to say there are a lot of words in this and they're they're actually pretty coherent. So I think he had some help, probably.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, he doesn't know what state he's in. And I don't mean Michigan or, you know,

Wyoming. I mean, he doesn't know what state he's in, like state of mind, state of mind.

Yes. I mean, he doesn't know if he's running against Donald Trump or George Bush because he actually said that, you know, in one one thing when.

But he doesn't know that he isn't running for reelection. He doesn't even know because I don't know if you heard this one this week, but he actually called himself the running mate of Harris.

So he doesn't even know he's running for president. He thinks he's the running mate. I mean, he's he doesn't know what state of mind he's in.

That's going to feed a whole lot of conspiracy. That comment.

Well, I'm sure it will. But I don't think it's conspiracy. I think it may be true. Yeah. Yeah. I think everybody knows that if Joe Biden wins, it's a

Harris presidency because, you know, he look. First off, before we get this article, what does it tell you that the that the the guy's best chance of winning is hiding in his basement?

I mean, that right there should tell you something. I had a friend that sent me the the rallies for Biden.

It had like 30, 36 circles with a chair in the middle and a big stage.

And for him to be up there to, you know, and six of those chairs were empty. You know, so that's not good.

You know, 20 percent empty. And then you have the Trump rallies. They're packed.

I mean, it was interesting. I figure what state he was in where the governor limited it to 250 people. And they had like tens of thousands of people that were around where the rally was that because they weren't allowed into the rally that was outside.

And so, you know, Trump actually came out to them to greet them. That's kind of interesting. So so let's deal with this article.

I want to deal with this kind of piece by piece. But overall, and I will put the links in the show notes so you can read the article.

But this is from The Christian Post, an article from Joe Biden that's titled

The Greatest Commandment Has Guided My Politics. And I really want to question whether that's true. There are two underlying issues with this article.

Two things biblically we have to address. One, that human beings are made in the image of God, the motto gay motto day.

Sorry. The other is that we're all children of God. So I want to address this because this is something that I think we we are going to see.

He doesn't quite know his scripture or whoever wrote the article there.

They're using scripture. OK. And this is something I want us to recognize that they're using scripture to undermine

Christianity. And I think this is what bothers me so much with what I'm seeing here.

This and this is what the overarching theme of today's show is going to end up being. This is unbelievers who hate

Christianity using God and his word to undermine

God. If I get spun up here today, if I get emotional, this is going to be the reason why.

Because this is such a I don't even can't even put the right words to it.

But it's such a disrespect to the God that I love to be taking his word and his character and taking that and twisting it to try to promote the exact opposite of what his word says.

So let me start with God's word on this. Who are the children of God? He's going to Biden's going to make the argument that we're all children of God.

Is that true? No. We're not Mormonism, which teaches that we're not many other false religions, man -made religions that teach that.

What does God say on the issue? Turn in your Bibles. Well, OK, not if you're driving. If you're driving, just listen.

But if you're not driving, pause, open your Bible, because I want you to see what

God actually says. And if you're driving, just go to John 1 12 later, not now later when you're not driving.

Hands on the wheel. All right. So John 1 12 and 13 says this. But as many as receive him to them, he gave the right to become children of God.

Even to those who believe in his name, who were born not of blood, not of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Not everybody is a child of God. Only those who receive him, according to this text, have the right.

So not everyone has the right to claim their child of God. So as we go through this article that Biden writes, you see over and over again he appeals to the fact that we're all children of God.

No. Only those that receive him, who believe on his name, have that right.

And that doesn't come by blood. That means genealogy. It doesn't mean that, like I was raised

Jewish and believed that my Judaism was saving me. The fact that I was born of the chosen people, that I was chosen and going to heaven.

No. So if you're born Jewish, if you're born Catholic, you're not automatically going to heaven.

So it's not that you're born of blood. It's not your genealogy that's going to give you this right.

It also means that just because you're part of the human race, you don't get that right. Nor does the will of flesh.

So it's not just the desire that you have that you want to be a Christian, that you want to be a child of God.

Nor is it the will of man. Nor is it your works. Your good works are not going to get you to be a child of God.

No. The only thing that gets a person to have the right to be called a child of God is

God. But God. Well, I was going to say, that scripture from John ties directly to what

Paul wrote in Ephesians 2, 4. But God. You are all these things, but God.

This is sovereignty. But your comment, I think, with regard to Imago Dei, certainly you see

Roman Catholics, I think, promoting this notion, born out of a misunderstanding of that doctrine, of that clear teaching of scripture, that because we're all made in the image of God, we're all children of God.

And that is absolutely incorrect. And many evangelicals have adopted that misunderstanding of Imago Dei as well.

Two completely distinct things. Everyone is made in the image of God, but only in Christ are we being transformed into the conformity with Christ, where we can rightly reflect that image of God that we were made in.

So we're not all children of God. You talk to the typical evangelical pew sitter now,

I think they're going to adopt that understanding. Because it sounds gracious and it sounds tolerant and noble, but it is just not biblical.

Well, and this is the thing. Let's let us first start by addressing, what does it mean to be made in the image of God?

Because people misunderstand this, and this is why they think they're children of God. Because they think being made in the image of God means we're like Him in some way.

You have the little God's doctrine that Word of Faith teaches, that if God were made in His image, then we're like Him in deity.

We're little gods. You have a lot of differing views. This is, theologically, the way we understand the image of God, is that we have certain attributes communicated to us that God also has.

So the theologians break up, when we do a study on the attributes of God, into generally two categories, communicable and incommunicable.

It just means communicated or not communicated. So those attributes that we share with God are those communicated.

Things like emotion, intelligence, justice. These are things God communicates to us.

But not all of His attributes are. His omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence, those are not.

We don't have those things. So there are certain attributes that are of God alone.

There are certain attributes that are communicated to us as human beings. And that is what it means to be made in the image of God.

Now, I differentiate the attributes of God a little bit differently, because there are attributes that are shared not only with men, but also with angels.

And angels are not made in the image of God. Therefore, how do we distinguish them? So when I, if you do at Striving Fraternity, if you take our

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I go through, starting with the attributes of God. Why? Because all your theologies can be based on that. But how do I break them down?

First, I break it down by the attributes of deity. Those attributes that are of God alone.

They're not communicated or shared with angels nor humans. Then there are attributes of personality.

Those attributes that are shared by both angels and human beings. And then there's attributes of morality, which only are shared with human beings.

So I've chosen to break it down that way, because I think that then that shows us what it means to be made in the image of God, is that we have certain attributes that angels cannot have.

They can't share in certain moral things, because they don't have that freedom, shall we say.

I want to say will, but we know that we have a will, it's just not free. Angels have a will, it's just theirs also is not free.

By the way, Bud, this is a side note. I saw the look on your face. I didn't want to go off in that direction,

I know. Yeah, I saw the look on your face. We've got a rabbit hole here. Let me just say, I've been changing the term.

I don't want to use free will, because theologically that's a problem. Free will means you have a will that is not influenced by anything outside of the will itself.

That's what it means to be theologically free. God has a free will. He isn't influenced by anything outside of his nature.

We have an enslaved will. We have a will that's enslaved to sin.

And it's not free. However, as Christians we have a free will. So I am using the term human will.

It's something I started using in the last month to distinguish. Instead of saying free will that people understand,

I refer to it as human will. And human will is enslaved to sin until someone is

Christian. Now, let's get back on topic. Ephesians chapter 2. Because you brought up verse 4.

But I think what's essential to this is really starting in verse 1. Because this is going to help us walk through this.

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins. In which you formerly walked according to the course of this world.

According to the prince of the power of the air. Of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.

Among them, we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh.

Indwelling the desire of the flesh and of the mind. And were by nature children of wrath.

Even as the rest. But God. That's great those two words.

But God being rich in mercy. Because of his great love. Which he loved us.

Even when we were dead in our trespasses. Our transgressions. Made us alive with Christ.

By grace you have been saved. And raised up with him. And seated with him in the heavenly places.

In Christ Jesus. So that in the ages to come.

He might show the surpassing riches. Of his grace in kindness.

Toward us in Christ Jesus. And then the passage that so many know. For by grace you have been saved through faith.

And that not of yourselves. It is a gift of God. Not as a result of works.

So that no one may boast. Now. So not as a result of works.

Would also mean not as a result of politics. Yeah. Yeah politics won't save.

Politics won't save us. And now I'm going to say something shocking. Politics won't save our country.

Our nation either. Amen. Okay. That is the problem for many. Is they think that the solution is political.

No. The politicians will follow the culture. So what we need to do. Is see a saved culture.

Because before. We will eventually get this article from Biden. But. I want to give this as the underpinning.

Because this is so essential. To what we're going to see. There is a contrast here in Ephesians 2.

Between the way the world is. And by the way if you saw in that. Verse 3. By nature we are children of wrath.

Not children of God. So when we compare this with John 1. 12. We see this distinction.

Between the children of wrath. And the children of God. There is. A very clear distinction between the two.

And what we see going on. For political gains. Is a muddying of these waters. And I want this to be clear as we go through this.

So you see. These are children of wrath. Telling the world that they're children of God. These are children of wrath trying to redefine.

What it is children of God should be believing. And practicing and doing. And what is it that defines.

Or characterizes these children of God. Well the way that we used to formally walk.

The lust of the flesh. Indulging in the desires of the flesh. And of the mind. Right. This is what describes us.

And this is a way as Christians. We formally walked. Which means we turn away from those things. We don't follow those things anymore.

We follow Christ. That's the distinction being made here. That now. I think.

You know. A couple of. Two, three, four times maybe. In the last half of that section.

The emphasis is. In Christ Jesus. In Christ Jesus. In Christ Jesus. God did this.

Made us alive together with Christ. There's a clear distinction. You're a child of wrath. You're a child of God's love and grace.

You're you know a slave of righteousness. You're a slave of unrighteousness. And to your point earlier.

The most offensive thing. Is something that should be easily discerned by Christians.

Is when we see scripture. Quoted. And used. For. I mean.

They're pandering. For the sake of temporal benefit. We've got the eternal word of God here.

It has effects and impact. On our temporal obedience. What our life looks like. How we need to live.

How we need to obey. But when you see it taken. Out of context. Applied.

Especially by. A guy that does not believe anything. That the. Entirety of scripture teaches.

When you see it applied that way. It's offensive. There is severe judgment. For. Mishandling.

Or misappropriating the word of God. Particularly for a. Temporal political purpose.

Yeah. You talk now. I'm sorry. No. Because there's one thing I want to say. Because we're going to get to this. Later on.

You know. On this. But. In verse two. It says that the world is walking. According to the prince of the power of the air.

And he's also described as the spirit. That is now working in the sons of disobedience.

So. Not only are we children of wrath naturally. So the natural state of man is the children of wrath.

But if you're in Christ. As Bud was saying. If you're in Christ. Then you have a right to be called the child of God.

Yeah. These. These are also called sons of disobedience. Okay.

So. I just wanted to lay this as a groundwork. Because we're going to come back to this. Spirit that is now working.

And we're going to see this from a very surprising source. Later on. So I want. I'm just asking you to hold that thought.

Let's go through this article now Bud. This. This is. It starts off. He starts off by.

By saying. In the gospel of. Matthew. Matthew. Jesus is asking. Teacher.

What is the greatest commandment of the law. To love the Lord your God with all your mind. Heart. With all your.

With all your heart. With all your soul. With all your mind. And he said. This is the first and greatest commandment.

And the second is like it. Love your neighbor. As yourself. All the laws and the prophets hang on these two.

Commandments. Now. We wouldn't disagree with that. Anything there. Right. Sounds good. That's Matthew 22. There you go.

So. So. Right off the bat. You have this guy quoting scripture. Writing in the

Christian post. And. What's he then say. He then says.

These. Abiding principles. Loving God and loving others. Are the very foundation of my faith.

Wait. Stop. What. Let's ask. What is his faith. His faith is Roman Catholicism.

He's a Roman Catholic. Now. Why. Might he have written this article. Could it be.

Could it be Bud. I could be wrong. But. I mean. This. This is. Came out yesterday. Could it be that.

The Democrats just spent. Several. Weeks. Bashing. Catholicism.

Because of Justice Barrett. And. Now. They realize. Wait a minute. We need those Catholic votes. Like. Let's sound.

Like good Catholics. Because all of a sudden. Biden's coming out. Announcing he's Catholic. Pelosi came out.

Announced she's Catholic. I mean. All of a sudden. All these Democrats are Catholic. They're good Catholics. So.

Is. Catholicism. Christianity. That's the first question. We have to ask.

I think. Bud is going to make me answer first. I'll say no. All right.

Now. Move on. It's not. No. It's not. It's not. And. By the way. The Catholic church says so.

Remember. It was the Catholic church. That killed Christians. The Catholic church.

That said. If you believe. In what we just read. In Ephesians 2. 18. 9. If you believe that.

You're saved by grace. Through faith. Apart from works. Yeah. Then.

You are damned. You are accursed. That's the Catholic church. And they killed Christians.

For that. So. There's no way you could say. That. They would kill. Those of us. That. Are.

Hold to evangelical Christianity. Is the same as Catholicism. When they called us.

Cursed. Going to hell. So. What I'm saying. When I say. That. I believe the same about Catholics.

Is. I agree with them. We are not the same. Okay. But. I could justify it.

And say. The reason that. They would be cursed. And going to hell. Is because. As we read.

Their natural state. Is sons of wrath. Children of wrath. Sons of disobedience.

That's their natural state. And apart from a working of God alone. Not through works.

They're not a child of God. That's not me saying it. That's God. We read this earlier. So.

His faith. That he talks about. Is. One of. His Catholic.

And he ends up saying. In the next paragraph. My Catholic faith. Drilled this into me. At a. At a core truth.

But. Is he really. Believing that. Does he really. Hold to. Love God. And love your neighbor.

You have to look at the platform. He stands on. And ask that question. Okay. Now. I will say.

For the record. Mike Pence. Who is a genuine Christian. Did write an article as well. They both have op -ed pieces.

That came out. Mike Pence. I actually do know people. That know him personally.

I've been to the church. Where. He used to attend. You know.

I do know people. That know him. And have confirmed. That yes. He is someone. That has a genuine.

Faith. Genuine belief. In Christ. Joe Biden. Is a Roman Catholic.

And therefore. If he holds to Roman Catholic. Teachings. He has a genuine. He would not be able. To be saved.

Because. Roman Catholicism. Teaches. That you are saved. By works. Plus faith. That is going to be different. Than what we would see.

In scripture. Okay. So. It's not me. Being mean. To Catholics. I'm just stating.

The facts. Of what. Their church teaches. Compared to what. Scripture teaches. All right.

So. They need to repent. Exactly what it says. On your microphone. That's right.

Yeah. Yeah. And people should. You know. Be patrons. Just to see that your repent. Has flames and all on it.

So. So. So. Here's the thing. He. We have to first identify.

That he's. He's writing to evangelical. Christians. But about his. Catholic faith.

And there's. Far too many people. That are trying to argue. That see. He's a man of faith. And Trump is not.

Well. Neither one of them are. Okay. No. Exactly. I mean. And. You know.

We happen. To be recording this on. Reformation day. It. Cannot go.

Without notice. That. Even. The rich. Ecumenical. Movement.

With evangelicals. And Catholics. This is completely wrong. This is contrary. To what scripture says. Especially.

What we've just read. In Ephesians. We need. To pray for. Catholics. We need.

To witness. To Catholics. We need. To share the gospel. With them. But. To say. That. Joe Biden.

Is a. Christian. No. That's false. Now. He goes on to say. And this is amazing. You know.

Sometimes. It's what people say. That. You know. They stumble. Into truth.

Which exposes. That they know. The truth. They just deny it. Because. He says. In the same creed.

That is at the core. Of our American experience. And written. Into our founding documents. That we are all created.

Equal. And endowed. By our creator. With inalienable. Rights. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is he saying.

That we were built on. Christian values. Because. That's all what they are. Trying to argue against.

So. He's right. We were. This country was founded. On Christian values. It wasn't a.

Christian nation. It was on. Christian values. And. That is why.

The American experiment. Has. Been so prosperous. I believe. Is because of those values.

That we held. And ways of trying to keep that. Now. He's going to end up. Referring to Dr. King. And. You know.

Argue. You know. Because. You know. He's going to. Bring up race issues later. So. You got to always throw Dr. King in.

But. I think that's just him. Giving a token. He doesn't quote him. Just refers to him. You know.

So. He does say though. That we're facing. A crisis. And. And this.

I will agree with him. We are facing a crisis. However. He says. The crisis. Is threats to the very.

You know. Amigo. Amigo. Gay. Day. Are we really facing a crisis.

Of the image of God. Well. We are. But not the way. He's saying. And he says.

It's a battle for the nation. Now. He's going to argue. That the battle. Is over systemic. Racism.

But see. You don't have people arguing. That. African -Americans. Are not human anymore.

That's not an argument. People are making. So. That's not where we see. The argument.

Of the. Amigo. Day. Being argued. Actually. Where we see. The argument. That. Humans are not human.

Is in Joe. Biden's party. That says that. Children in the womb. Are not human beings.

That's where you see that. So. He wants to argue for. You know. That. That the. The very fabric.

Of our country. Is under. Crisis. Because the. Image of God. Is not being valued.

Well. He's right. But it's not. With racism. That issue. Has been dealt with. In the past.

And. We don't see people. Making that argument. Today. Well. We do see people. Making an argument. Is that. Children in the womb.

Are not humans. That's where the battle. Is. There is a crisis. There. But the argument.

That we end up seeing. There. Is that. He's on the wrong side. Of history. He's arguing. For the murder. Of millions.

Of children. Mostly. Black. So. Clearly. He doesn't believe. Black lives matter.

He only believes. Black lives matter. At the voting booth. Yeah. That's. Where he thinks.

Black lives matter. If you don't vote for him. As he has said. Then you're not really black. He has said that.

To a black man. On air. You know. If you don't vote for him. You're not black.

He. Degrades black people. He has a low view. Of black people. Blacks are there.

To vote for him. That's what they're there for. That. Seems to be his view.

He doesn't care about. Blacks in the womb. Black lives. Don't matter to him. In the womb.

There is a crisis. Of the image of God. Why. Because. Those in the womb. Are being said. That they are not.

Human beings. And therefore. The woman who owns the body. Can kill them. I just asked the question.

What is the difference. Between this is my property. And this is my body. They are both ownership issues.

The difference is. This is my property. Required the owner. To care for.

Provide for. The slave. Not kill them. They were useless dead. Abortion.

Is an ownership issue. Where the goal is. The slaughter. Of an adult. Claiming they are not human.

So that you can kill them. That is where the real crisis is. And he is on the wrong side.

Of God. On that crisis. God is a God. Of life. He is the source of life.

And Biden. Is of the party of death. They want to kill children. In the womb.

They want to support. Assisted suicide. So you can kill your elderly. And just remember. They are the party.

That wants to control. Your health care. So if they are a party. Of death. And you are not valuable.

If you are not working. What is going to happen. When you get older. Oh you say. Hey I don't care. That is 60 years from now.

Well when you are 60 years later. You are going to lose the argument. The argument is now. That has to be made. If you don't fight for your rights.

Now. You are not going to have them. 60 years from now. And the government is going to say. Well you are not adding to our culture.

You are not adding to the government. Gone. We are not going to pay for your health care. You are going to have nowhere to turn by then.

So. In this article. He says. He is. He is running for president.

And he is asking for our vote. Now he is writing this to Christians. Because he is saying.

The reason is. That we stand. You know. He says. We. We.

Sorry. Who are we. What we stand for. And maybe. And maybe the most important.

Who we want to be as a nation. Are at stake. Character is at the ballot.

Now. Character of our nation. The core values. That define this nation.

Are on the ballot. While I am running. As a proud democrat. I will serve president.

For all Americans. Let's break that up. And seize this. Because. Character. You mean. The character of a man.

Who lies. Who says that. He has nothing to do with foreign. Dignitaries.

But proudly announces. When he was vice president. That he got a prosecutor.

Removed. From office. Who is investigating. A company. That his son. Just months before. Became on the ballot.

Or sorry. On the board of directors. And. We now see. That there is. From his son's emails.

That he was receiving 10 percent. Of these millions of dollars. He was receiving. From China. From Russia. This is.

This is character. We know two things. About the character. Of Trump and Biden. Trump.

Though his character. Morally. We are going to disagree with. But what we know about his character. He does what he says.

He's going to do. He's done that for four years. Biden. We know his character. He is like us.

A shaft. Thrown into the wind. Just a feather. Thrown in the wind. Whatever way the wind blows. He's going to do that.

Remember. This is a guy. That supported white supremacy. And is now arguing for black supremacy. Black lives.

Yes. Okay. Chameleon. He's a chameleon. Political chameleon. So. He has no character.

He's got no backbone. You know. He's not coherent. Which is why they've got to hide him away in a basement.

That should be pathetic. This is the way. The best way. To get a vote for Joe Biden. Is to keep him shut up.

If he wins. Can you shut him up in the White House? Is that what you're going to do? You can, Andrew. You know there's a basement in the

White House. It happens to be. I think. Where the war room is. From which you can launch missiles. And stuff like that.

So. They can put him in the basement there. Where he can do much more damage. Potentially. Well. The point is.

Their goal is to keep him out of. I mean. The best way for him to win. Is to not be seen or heard.

That tells you something about his character. Okay. And that he's going to be a president for all

Americans. Really. He's going to be a president for Christians. He's writing this to Christians. What is his party.

What are they saying. We're going to get to this later. But they basically say that churches should be shut down.

Protests. Rioting. Looting. That should run freely. But church. You should not.

Be allowed to go to church. That's their party. You know. And that's the other thing. When he says. Character is on the ballot.

The character of our nation. And I just. You just glance around. At some of the.

Democratic strongholds. Cities. That have. Had these.

These riots. These protests. All this. All this. Black Lives Matter. Antifa. All of these things.

That are driven by. A democratic worldview. A democratic. Is that.

Is that. The character of our nation. That we want to move to. Well. Let's take a look at that. Because we do have. A clear example.

With this COVID thing. That he's going to bring up. In his article. We do have a clear thing. The president. Let the states.

Run their state. That's actually the way. Our country is set up. And now they want to blame. He's. He blames.

Two hundred and twenty thousand deaths. On. On Trump. Well. That is. You know.

Trump has some. Things that he's done. But. What's clear is.

What were the Democrats doing. When Trump was trying to deal with. The. This virus. They were calling him.

Xenophobic. Racist. And in that. In the house. Pelosi was actually. Trying to create a bill.

At the time. That he was banning. Travel from China. She was trying to. Create a bill. To limit. His ability.

To do that. Yeah. So. If the Democrats. Had their way. There would be far more.

Than two hundred. Twenty thousand deaths. Because it would have spread. A lot more. He shut it down. Early.

And they. Criticized him for it. They want. Didn't want him shutting down. Remember. The Democrats were the ones. Going into Chinatown.

Going. Let's all be in public. Let's all go here. Let's all. You know. Show support for. For Chinese people.

So. So. This is what they wanted to do. Now. In this article. He. He claims. Not only.

Does he try to say. That it's all Trump's fault. For all the deaths. Which by the way. I think Trump did a great job. In the last debate.

Exposing the fact. That when there was something. That was far less. Deadly. As this virus.

During. You know. The Obama administration. What did they do? They failed. I mean.

Even Biden's own. You know. The guy who worked for Biden. At that time. Said. It was just luck.

They did everything wrong. It was just luck. That it wasn't deadly. And didn't kill more people. But far more people.

Got it. If that was as deadly. As this virus. We would be in the millions.

Okay. So that's what. So he says. But he ends up saying this. And amazing. Quote. Yet eight months in.

This administration. Has no plan. And no intention. Of enacting a strategy. To get ahead.

Of the virus. So we could safely. Get back to our lives. Unquote. All right. Let's see if this is true.

Characters on the ballot. Lying. Is a sin. Does Trump have no plan.

And no intention. Of enacting a strategy. To get us ahead. Of the virus. To get us back to our lives. That's patently false.

How do I know? Because the very next paragraph. Biden's going to lay out his plan. He goes. I'm going to choose a different way. What is he going to do?

He says. His administration. Is going to lead. A decisive public health response.

That ramps up free testing. I could be wrong here bud. But. Are we doing any testing.

Right now. For COVID virus. In the United States. It's funny. As I drive back and forth.

Throughout the country. The little signs. Are popping up. Same day. COVID test results. Testing is everywhere.

And the test numbers. Are going up. And up. And up. And that's actually. A good thing.

Because it gives us. Even more data. On how. Truly lethal. This is. Across the general population.

The testing. Let's look at the. The numbers. One hundred. And forty two.

Million. Tests. That's like a third. Of the population. Yeah.

Yeah. The total population. Is three hundred. Thirty one million. So it is almost half.

Of the population. That's how many. Tests have been done. Okay. China has the most.

Tests. With a hundred. And sixty million. But they also have. One point four. Billion people.

So. That is nowhere. Near. That's like. They're. They're at almost. A little bit over. A tenth. Of their population.

Tests. Yeah. Okay. We have almost. Half. So we. When. When he makes this claim.

That there's. That. There's nothing. There's no plan. That. Trump is doing nothing. A hundred.

And forty two. Million tests. They don't talk about that. So he's going to do testing. He's going to ramp it up. Ramp what up.

It's already been done. Okay. What. What next. Will he do. He's. He's going to. You know. He's going to ramp up.

Free testing. So that. We can. Trace the virus. And curb the spread. He's going to eliminate all.

Cost barriers. For treatments. I don't think there is a cost. Barrier right now. So. He's again.

He's going to do. Trump's plan. He's going to enter. Increase manufacturing. Dispute. And distribution of personal.

Protective equipment. To our frontline workers. I could be wrong.

But bud. That's exactly what. Trump did. In fact. Trump did it in a way. Trump did it in a way. That the Democrats didn't want.

The Democrats wanted. To force. The businesses. To make. These products. At no cost.

Trump gave incentives. To businesses. So that you had. A pillow company. My pillow.

My pillow. Was creating masks. And. You have companies that were. 3M was making ventilators.

What did they do. They figured out. They realized. Okay. We can't make the things. We were going to do. GM making ventilators. They make cars.

But they have the. They have the tools. To also be able. To make ventilators. Why did they do it.

Because they can't. They realize. They're going to be. Their business. Cannot function. But they can continue working.

In a different way. Trump incentivized. Them. To create. The PPE. The protective.

The personal protective equipment. So. He's going to. He. Biden says. He's going to. Increase manufacturing.

Distribution. But right now. We have a surplus. We didn't have a surplus before. Where'd the surplus come from.

Oh. Trump. So. He says. No intention. No strategy. And so far. Three of the things. He's going to do.

Trump's already done. I'm. Confused. On this. He's going to. Also ensure.

Rapid. And. Rapid distribution. Of a safe. And effective vaccine.

When it's ready. Well. Trump has already said. He's got the military. Ramped up. Ready to do that.

They're waiting on the vaccine. So. So. You look at this. And go. Well. What's he going to do. Everything.

He's proposing. Is what Trump's already done. They're going to. They're going to lead. In an economic response. With. With.

Emergency pay. For those who are hit hard. But. Which party is holding that. Up right now. Trump's already.

The Republicans. Had four different stimulus. Packages. And Nancy Pelosi. Has held them all up.

It's the Democrats holding up. So. So. You look at his plan. He says. There's no intention of it. Of enacting a strategy.

By Trump. And yet. Every single one. Of the points. He says. He's going to do. Is what Trump has already done.

So. Why not. Just stick with the guy. That's actually done it. Then right. I mean. This is where he's outright.

Lying. And saying. Character man. Yes. Well. That's the whole theme. Of this election. Right. Yeah.

It's. It's. It's. You don't think. This through. Don't pay attention. To details. It's just.

Orange man. Bad. I mean. I think that. Pence said it. In his debate.

With Harris. Right. You have. You're entitled. To your own opinions. You're not entitled.

To your own facts. And you're not entitled. To your own truth. Sorry. All right.

So. He ends up. Arguing. That. You know. He's going to work closely.

With the governors. Democrat and Republican. Wait. Again. That's exactly. What Trump's. Administration did.

So. So. He says. They had no plan. But you would. End up seeing. Is everything. He's suggesting. Is what

Trump has already done. Yeah. Now. Here's what really frustrated. Me in this article. Other than the fact.

That here you have a guy. That's using God's word. To argue. That Christian should vote.

For a party. That is anti -Christian. But here. He had the nerve. The audacity.

To quote. Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The. Irony. Here.

But. I mean. So much good stuff. Too. But yes. Okay. Go for it.

Okay. Yes. I did. Yeah. Skip the racism. Yeah. We should deal with that. Because. Well. I dealt with.

To make a comment. About. You know. To beat COVID. Back on the COVID thing. Yeah. To quote the article.

He says. To beat COVID -19. We must all work together. To pull our country. Out of this crisis.

We must all wear masks. It's not a political statement. It's a manifestation.

Of God's commandment. To love our neighbors. As ourselves. So we can save lives. So. He's.

You know. He's doing a Christian thing. There. But what gets me. And it was a pundit. And I don't know who it was.

That said this. And I thought it was. It was. Pretty jocular. He said. Of all elections.

That we've had. This will probably be. The easiest one. For exit polling. Because all of the people.

Coming out. Wearing masks. Voted Democrat. All of them. Not wearing masks. Now.

That's certainly not true. But. Yeah. No. But you know. It's pretty funny. But. We must all wear masks.

And we've dealt with the mask. Issue. Is it actually a manifestation. Of God's commandment.

To love our neighbor. Well. We're going to deal with that. We're going to deal with that. Next episode. Yes. So.

I do want to. I do.

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I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. The problem there is there is no systemic racism. If we are truly a systemic racist country, then there's only one thing to do.

Ship every black out to Africa. Because he can't fix it. If it's systemic, you can't fix it.

Okay? That's the only solution. It's a systemic problem. You can't fix it then.

That's not what God's Word says. It is true that if you had a view that people are not human beings that are human beings, that is antithetical to the

Imago Dei. But it's not in racism that we see that. That's in abortion.

The very thing his party and he supports, that is antithetical.

It's not systemic racism because that isn't what the systemic racism that we had in an earlier part of this country, and by the way, it's impossible that this country was systemically racist for one simple reason.

Slavery was not part of the country. It was the South, where the

Democrats were fighting for it. It was the South, the Democrats. That was where the systemic racism, you could argue, was because that's the party that said they were not human, they were slaves.

It was the North, where the abolitionists were. It's the North where people were fighting to end slavery.

So you can't argue it's a systemic issue. When it took white people to end it. So if it was systemic, they would not have done that.

They would have no choice but to be racist. So the argument breaks down, but you're not supposed to think about that, bud.

No, no. Don't bring facts into this, please. Don't confuse me with the facts. I have my opinions.

But this is where they want to go. I'm sorry now. I distracted you. No, no, no.

Because I was going to bring in the Bonhoeffer, because he uses Bonhoeffer to argue for this. And he's going to end up arguing, you know, we need economic relief and unemployment, all these things.

You know, it's just, he wants to throw money at everything. But the fact that he quotes

Bonhoeffer to justify his racism, okay, because he's the racist.

He's the one that sees color. We see human beings. There's one race, the human race.

I see people. I see people that need Christ, or people that need discipleship. Right?

That's it. You know, that's true. Let me, here's an interesting thing I noticed yesterday in my scripture reading that I really haven't noticed before.

If you get to Acts 10, Cornelius Peter, Acts 10, let me find the verse here.

Acts 10, 24, on the following day he entered Caesarea. Now Cornelius was waiting for them and had called together his relatives and close friends.

When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshiped him.

Cornelius falls at his feet and worships Peter. But Peter raised him up saying, stand up,

I too am just a man. And then if you skip down a few verses, he says, and he said to them,

Peter said to them, you yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him.

Yet God has shown me through the vision of the animals coming down and God saying kill, eat.

Yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean. I mean, what you've tacitly got right there is

Peter, a Jew, a faithful Jew in the home of a

Gentile and not only a Gentile, but a Roman who happened to be a fear, a

God fearer. But Peter there recognizes, I'm just a man like you.

But they are worlds apart ethnically, politically, socially, they're worlds apart.

But I am a man just like you. And Peter identifies the issue as I should not call any man unholy or unclean.

The issue is, are we in Christ or are we not in Christ? This is the distinction. Yeah. And if you're not in Christ, you need the gospel and that's when it needs to hear that you need to share the gospel with.

And if they know Christ, Matthew 28, 19 and 20, you teach them all things Christ has taught you. So I see the world as two groups of people, those that need the gospel, those that need discipleship.

That's it. That's how I see the, if you want to say races of people. Again though in this article, but it's what sometimes people say where they accidentally say the truth because he ends up saying, quote, as a country, we are blessed with the world's greatest

GT GDP and incredible national resources on quote, who gave us those?

Let's remember this folks under the Barack Obama administration that Biden was the vice president of.

We were told we had to accept a new normal. We had to accept that, you know, high unemployment, we had to accept lower wages.

This was supposed to be the new normal we were to accept. He's now admitting that, yes, we have the highest

GPA and incredible natural resources. Those are his words. Why do we have that?

Because the Donald Trump cutting regulation, you know, I mean, it's the government that's in the way of, of our economy and all

Trump has done, look, it's, it should tell people how bad our government wants us to be poor. They say they're fighting for the poor, but they want us to be poor and they want them to be rich.

How do we know this? Because all Trump did was get rid of regulation. Yes, he gave a tax cut.

He did a tax cut just like Bush did a tax cut. And we saw a bump from that, but we didn't see anything near that what we've seen in the economy.

We saw George Reagan gave a tax cut, a very big one. And we saw a big bump from that.

But we also saw lots of spending that limited that we see a lot more of an economy.

Now, before COVID, we were at it's at the peak of an economy. Why? Because Trump removed regulation, okay?

And to have this guy quote Bonhoeffer, for those who don't know who Bonhoeffer is, Bonhoeffer stood up to the

Nazis, to the fascists, okay, on Christian values. He stood up against everything

Biden is for. That is why the audacity of him to mention and quote

Bonhoeffer to support him, first he's quoting God, then he quotes Bonhoeffer, then he's going to to say that building economy is expressed in Isaiah 65.

I was like, what? You know, he's I mean, it's just you have to sit here because, you know, if you read

Isaiah 65, it talks about a rebellious people. I think, again, maybe maybe he didn't do his homework well enough.

He should have given the verse because if you read the beginning of Isaiah 65, it's talking about Biden's party.

But here's the thing. He's arguing for this. He's going to say that his faith is what leads him to all of this.

His faith is leading him to kill millions of children in the womb.

Really? The Catholic Church does not support the stance that his party stands on.

Yeah. OK, he ends up trying to argue that the Old and New Testament taught that we should welcome strangers and therefore he's arguing for for illegal immigration.

Right. No one has an issue with legal immigration. Nobody. It's illegal immigration.

So here's a verse Biden doesn't refer to. Romans 13. Obeying the law.

No, no, no, no. We can't have that. But we can't do that. It's we just want to say you have to love your neighbor.

Well, you also have to obey the law. OK, so he wants to he wants to co -sponsor legislation, you know, with a refugee bill.

We already allow refugees in. Yeah. So, again, he's everything he's offering is stuff we already have.

Like there's there's like nothing new. That's the thing that's puzzling. So so, you know, there's some other things we're only like almost an hour in, bud.

So I think we're going to go long today. All right. Well, I'm here because we got a lot more we want to go over with this.

But I wanted to go through this. So you realize this is I agree with Biden. We do have a lot at stake. The problem is

Joe Biden. His party is on the wrong side of history. And to use God and his word.

Joe Biden and his party are on the wrong side of God and his word. Abraham Lincoln, who said it's not a question of whether, you know, we're on whether God's on our side, but whether we're on his

Joe Biden, you're not on God's side. And to try to write an article to to evangelical Christians asking for their vote while you twist the scriptures is that's audacity.

And but it's having it's having a play because you sent me an article about a pastor quit his

I love how they say he quit his conservative church. I don't know anything about his church. I do know he went to Fuller.

So that causes me question right there because that's a liberal seminary. But, you know, they you know, he left his church over Trump.

And now he's fighting for Biden. We see Joe John Piper, who's come out and said, you know,

Christians shouldn't vote for for Biden. There have been a big push for evangelicals or Christians voting for Biden.

I'm seeing this. This now it's interesting. Biden is writing to the Christian Post where this pastor is in the

L .A. Times. Right. So they want that to be. But have you have you seen the articles, all the articles on gays for Trump?

No. Have you seen all the articles and the highlights of the blacks for Trump?

Oh, no, no, no. So you don't get to see this. They're actually struggling to get a voice out there.

The blacks for Trump are being told they're not black. Well, in that circumstance, black lives matter, but black voices don't.

I mean, maybe that's it. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that's it. Only certain black voices count.

So you're seeing where Christians are being preyed upon by the world.

Remember, remember what we read in Ephesians four. OK, you have to remember this. I'm sorry.

Ephesians two. Ephesians two. Yeah. These are the children that are by nature aren't children of wrath.

Who do they follow? The prince of the power of this era, the spirit that is now working in what? The sons of disobedience.

That is the Democrat Party. That is who the Democrat Party is. They stand for the for calling people not human so they can kill them, not enslave them, kill them.

I'm sorry, but any Democrat that argues against racism because of slavery and support abortion are hypocrites, plain and simple.

The argument for slavery is the same they make for abortion. I don't have the source for this.

I did. I did write the transcript out and it was from MacArthur. And he's been very vocal about these things.

And it was an interview that he has had subsequent to the lawsuits that the church has been going through trying to fight the onerous activities of the governor and state of California.

But it was with regards to the Trump phone call that MacArthur got. And this is what he had been asked about on this particular show.

But here's what what MacArthur said. It's just a brief little paragraph. MacArthur, regarding his

Trump phone call, says, we we talked a little bit about why certainly from a biblical standpoint,

Christians could not vote Democratic because there's no way that a

Christian can affirm the slaughter of babies, homosexual activity, homosexual marriage or any kind of gross immorality.

No way we could stand behind a candidate who is affirming transgender behavior, which is really the reprobate mind of Romans one.

These things aren't even political for us. These things are biblical. And I thought that was really astute, particularly in light of the question that Biden apparently got regarding the eight year old boy that wanted to be transgender.

Yeah. Think about the implications of this for the family, for parents.

And and this certainly destroys the foundation of the country, the family.

So Biden thinks an eight year old understands enough to know the rest of his life, his gender knows that he does he doesn't want to have children ever, because once you do these these sex changes, you it pretty much ends that chance.

But he understands all that this eight year old child understands that. And yet he's not old enough to drink because, well, you got to be 21 for that because you can't be trusted to drink alcohol.

Can't smoke cigarettes till you're 18 because you can't be trusted for that. You can't be trusted to vote, although now they want to drop that to 16.

But you can know you understand enough. You haven't even gotten through puberty, but you understand enough to know what gender you were supposed to be.

You don't even know how to drive yet. Yeah. You can't be trusted to drive until you're 16 or 17. All right.

Let's see the impact that this is having. But you sent this over to me. This was this was mind blowing. This is two minutes.

And I want to play this video that you sent. And I want us to remember, this is where I said, remember what we said.

Who is the spirit of this world? Where these things are. I want to play this clip that we have from Billy Graham's granddaughter.

So here it is. And then we'll we'll deal with this after. Jerusha Duford. Billy Graham is my grandfather.

He was a worldwide evangelist, spoke to some of the largest numbers that have ever been spoken to.

I know that he lived values because I watched him live them in his living room at the same time as he was doing them on a world stage.

There's many, many women in this country, evangelical women who are struggling with the decision to vote for Trump in the next election when they see the things that he says and they see the things that he does, especially against women.

It's affected us in a great way. OK, I got to stop it. I just can't help myself. So, you know, women, she's only targeting women.

Why? What's the issue with the women? Abortion, abortion, the killing of human beings, saying that they're not human.

So you can kill them at the offering of your convenience because it might affect your life.

Now, if you watch the video, I'll put the video in the show notes. But what do you see? You see them putting clips of him meeting with with, you know, all the negative things.

They have a one thing where he's it makes him look like he's, you know, making fun of people.

You have the clips of him meeting women. You're going to have a clip with him with Jeffrey Epstein tying him to Jeffrey Epstein.

However, what what do we end up learning about Jeffrey Epstein? I'm going to it's like it's amazing because I won't put this in. It was it was

Bill Clinton that was flying around the world and doing things with with Epstein.

Trump was working with Epstein. And when he found out about some of the nonsense Epstein does, he cut off relations with him.

So just remember, it was the Democrat Party that was supporting Epstein, working with Epstein. It was

Trump who was like, no, you know what? You have all these girls around these young girls, right?

I'm not being part of you. He separated from Epstein just for the record. OK, so she's saying women, because this is about abortion.

Let's keep going. That spirit that tug on your heart. I believe that that is the

Holy Spirit. Stop that tugging on your heart.

Wait, I don't think Billy even would have believed that. Even even in his more later years of.

But she needs a copy of this book. Does God whisper by Jim Osmond?

You're tugging on your heart. That's the spirit. That's the spirit. What is that spirit? We've already dealt with this.

That spirit, according to Ephesians two, that's the spirit that's now working in the sons of disobedience.

That's she is attributing the works of the devil to the Holy Spirit. That's blasphemy.

Yep. I don't care if your father was this great evangelist. Grandfather.

Grandfather. Sorry. Take a breath, dude. Yeah. Grandfather. That doesn't mean she's a Christian. You know, like to to attribute the works of Satan to the

Holy Spirit is blasphemy. Blasphemy. Yeah. And that's what she's doing all because Christian women, you got to vote for Biden.

All right. Let me let me let me try to get through it. I'll try.

It's inside of us. My president doesn't have to be a Christian, but Donald Trump has been lifted up as a man of faith.

Where did we lose our recognition of what Jesus looks like? Our allegiance first is to Jesus and to scripture and to the

Holy Spirit. OK, if that's the case, bud, it's our allegiance is to to the

Holy Spirit. To God and scripture. We're going to play another clip with a whole bunch of people that claim they were Christians that weren't on the

Democrat side as well. I mean, I don't know when the last time we had an actual evangelical president.

It's certainly not Trump. It certainly wasn't Obama, Obama, Jimmy Carter. That might be.

But I don't know that he was saved, you know, but to say that scripture is supposed to be our ultimate authority.

Well, scripture says she's speaking to women. Why for the abortion issue? Scripture speaks clearly against that for the homosexual issue that Biden's pushing.

We're going to get to that in a minute to push that issue. No, again, scripture is very much against that.

So if you want to put scripture first, not saying is the guy a Christian, because remember, she's saying, you know, it's not that he's a

Christian. We just read the article. What was Biden arguing that he's a Christian, right?

OK, maybe it's me. They're both arguing they're a Christian. I don't believe either of them are.

But if you're going to argue for scripture, then you have no choice. You cannot vote for Biden if you're going to look at scripture.

Anything you want to say on that before we try playing the last 40 seconds? You just need to take a breath.

You're getting all worked up. I said in the beginning this was going to happen because we believe in sovereignty. This is going to work.

Oh, it is. The thing that gets me is it's not that they're going to vote for Biden.

That upsets me. What upsets me is the twisting of God's word to justify the very things that God's against.

No, exactly. And presumably Billy Graham's granddaughter, I guess, is an evangelical.

I presume that's how she would position herself. She might position herself as that. Yeah, no,

I understand that. And and yet this is the narrative that you're getting. And so we can we can say this comes from scripture when actually it doesn't.

And this is a problem of discernment. This is a problem of ignorance of scripture, a complete disregard of doctrine.

Christians don't understand. They're not they're not discerning. What are you doing?

Well, I'm going to I'm going to swear I've had enough of her. I want to I want to play the other the other clip that we had, because, you know,

I just because now the last 45 seconds is her her appeal to vote for, you know, to vote for Biden.

The tug of your heart. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's basically what she's going to argue for now is we have to have this tug on our heart.

I guess you want me to play that part? No, but. Yeah, I mean, that's basically what she ends up arguing for is we need to have, you know, this this tug on our heart, this, you know, the fact that there's a, you know, the spirit inside us that we have to have to get to.

I mean, that's that's what she she's. My name is Jerusha D. Ford. OK, hold on. Let me pause it and get back to that spot.

So because because. For a Republican is not as important as listening to that spirit inside of us.

It's OK to go against what you've always done. And it's not too late. We don't have to give an account or a reason for the decision that we make in that booth to anybody but ourselves and to the

Lord. Our character is what we do when nobody is watching.

OK, so so that is, you know, we got to follow that spirit, the spirit of this age, you know, that that's what she wants us to follow.

Go ahead. No, I was just going to say that that is the prevalent view of evangelical

Christianity. It's emotionalism. You know, it's it's mysticism and highly subjective, whereas you and I both know that if you're going to reference

Scripture, what you are referencing is the propositional revealed truth, concrete absolutes that God has given to us.

It is not mystical. It is not arbitrary. It is not subjective. It's you know, when

Jude says contend for the faith, he's talking about a faith of propositional truth revealed to us by a sovereign and holy

God who has our interest in obedience for our own good at heart.

But the prevalence of this mysticism and emotionalism, that kind of thing will appeal to a lot of people in the pews who don't have biblical insight to discern just how wicked that is.

Now, we've we've said that the Catholics have been under attack ever since Justice Barrett was nominated.

Democrats are losing that vote. They got to get it back. Right. So this next clip that you sent me was one minute long.

It's you're going to see those who watched the video again. I'll be in the show notes. But if you're watching on Patreon, you'll see it.

You'll see that this is going to show every president, every president. So remember the

President Obama, who supported Islam somehow, you know, he's up there.

And same with the Bush's Clinton. I mean, they're all good. But here's the thing. When you look at this as if you're a

Catholic and you're going to look at this, which of these two men, Trump and Biden, are the ones that that is more in line with Catholic doctrine?

Well, it's not Biden. He's for homosexuality. He's for abortion. He's for everything that the church is against.

How could Catholics vote for him? And so let's listen to how they are going to argue for this.

As Catholics, we understand that no matter who's president, our faith is going to lead us to disagree with them on certain issues.

Past presidents have treated us with respect. But this guy is something else. Donald Trump and the people around him have insulted our bishops, even the

Holy Father. Disgraceful. The Pope needs to seek Donald Trump's forgiveness. Maybe that's why a majority of Catholics are voting against him this election.

Or maybe it's because Donald Trump hasn't fought for workers. The middle class or the poor.

But for his own interests. Or maybe it's just because we know guys like Donald Trump who talk big.

We're going to have a health care plan that's going to be second to none. It's going to be great.

But that's small. There are many reasons why most Catholics oppose Donald Trump's reelection.

All of them work in my book. Not our vote, buddy. Not our faith.

Not our faith is responsible for the content. So there you go with that one.

And what do you have there? You have them arguing, OK, Trump didn't do anything. Again, he didn't do anything.

Yet they show the cages of the immigrants. And who put those up? Oh, that was

Obama and Biden. So, again, it's amazing because it was

Obama that had problems with the previous pope. This current pope, there's many

Catholics who are saying he's not Catholic. I mean, they have issues with him because he's going against a thousand years of Catholic teaching.

So this is a big push. They're pushing to get Christians. They want to undermine the

Christian vote to vote for Democrat, to vote for everything against what they have. And again, notice they try to use

God to undermine what God stands for. That's what is so infuriating with this.

And the biggest thing, Bud, is an article. I think you saw it as well. I shared it on Facebook from Discern, is this article that Biden pledges to enact a pro -LGBT and equality act in the first hundred days of his presidency.

Folks, he's made it really clear what he stands for. Everything God is against.

Everything God is against is what Biden wants. And the things he says he's going to do well for the country, those are things

Trump's already done. So what is he going to do? How is he going to implement what

Trump implemented better than Trump? Think about that. How can he implement what someone else already implemented better than the person who implemented it?

If you have a choice, stick with the guy that actually implemented it rather than the guy who just says he's going to implement it.

You know, actions speak louder than words. Trump has the actions. Biden has lots of words.

They're incoherent, but at least whoever wrote the article, they were coherent then.

Yeah, they were coherent in the article. So kudos to whoever did that. I disagree with them all, but yeah.

So, so, but we haven't even taken a break. We've been on a whirlwind here.

It's all your fault, just for the record. It's all your fault. I asked people to pray for you before this started.

I don't know if you saw that. No, no, but I needed it. I mean, what infuriates me is this dishonors

Christ. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's, that is what infuriates me.

All right. So, so I want to take, I want to take a break and, you know, before we get into the next topic, then after this break, what

I want to do is I want to talk to you about an article that I sent this to Bud and he,

I think he was like, what? But another article, which is a radical proposal for dealing with Trump supporters after Biden wins, that'll come right after this short break.

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I've been really enjoying, dark mode. I've been playing with it for a couple of weeks now. It is taking...

I do have to adjust, you know, I have all my color codings and highlightings, and it is different in dark mode.

I have been playing with Lagos 9 for a couple of weeks. I know it just... Someone's going, but it just came out this week.

I know, I know. I had it about three weeks ago. Been playing with it and using it to write a review and whatnot.

It is, especially for pastors, bud, they've really upped their sermon builder. So you can actually lay out...

You know, I have my sermons kind of laid out until the end of the year, and as I'm going through the Book of Mark.

And so now I can adjust them, and I do. And I have all that filled out, so I kind of can work on the sermons ahead of time and put things into my notes where I need them right within my

Lagos. I can cut and paste doing my reading and go, oh, wait, that's going to... I'm going to get that when I get to, you know,

Mark chapter 6. I can put that into the sermon note file right away. And so...

Friends, friends, wait, note. Let me just clarify. You're actually studying in preparation for a sermon?

Yeah, I kind of have to do that. That's a novel approach in a lot of evangelicalism, I'm just telling you. Well, hence the reason for this podcast episode.

We've had to deal with a lot of people that don't do that and are in churches where they don't do that. And that's why they don't know their

Bible. But at the Master Church of Bucks County, they're going to know their Bible. So just saying, because we got some good preaching there, in my opinion.

So let's deal with this thing. First, and I know we've gone long, but we'll cut this a little short and not go through all of it.

Folks, I'll put the article here for you to read. But this is called the Radical Proposal for Dealing with Trump Supporters After Biden Wins.

Well, this is just from some no -name guy. It's some guy, Russ Josephs.

And you go, well, what's the big deal? Well, he does have 17 ,000 followers. So do you have that?

Maybe not. So he obviously has some platform where there's a lot of people that are following his blog here.

And so he's writing an article. He obviously is a leftist. He believes that Biden is going to win.

So clearly he's counting on fraud, because that is the only way Biden wins.

If you just look at the rallies, I mean, Trump had a rally. It was funny. We didn't have time to put this one up, bud.

But Laura Ingraham had a video where she was showing Trump did a rally, and the governor limited him to 250 people.

And there were like tens of thousands of people, or thousands of people that were outside that couldn't come in. You know,

Biden has a rally, and there's like 30 people in their circles. There were like 35, 36 circles with a chair in it, six of the seats missing.

So they couldn't even fill. They only had 36. They couldn't even fill the seats there. And he's got a stage set up to speak to them.

But this guy's obviously counting on a Biden win. So he's either delusional or counting on fraud.

So what bugs me is he calls this a radical proposal. His proposal is that Biden supporters should try to get along with Trump supporters.

Now, let that sink in. He thinks that's radical. He thinks this is a radical way of dealing with things.

What does that tell you about the left's real view? If he thinks that's radical, what is the left's view of dealing with Trump supporters that Biden wins?

Well, it must not be to get along with them. Well, you know, tactically, he only recommends that after a

Biden win. We don't need to do it now. We need to do it then is what he's proposing. Well, that's true, because we have plenty of organizations.

I think the count now is up to 60 organizations that have put out game plans to create chaos if Trump wins.

So so obviously the Biden supporters don't plan to get along with Trump supporters if they lose only if they win.

All right. So let's kind of work through this article quickly. Again, the show notes will have it.

He talks about taking an example of history, World War One, World War Two. In World War One, he and just folks, if you do read the article, there is foul language there.

He basically says the allies won in Germany, but but left him alone, left him isolated.

And all that did was raise up a hatred. And and that gave us World War Two, where in World War Two, he says, see, we we worked with Japan and Germany to rebuild them.

So he says, quote, We need to adopt a strategy with the Trumpers. We need to try to find common ground to offer support, not disdain.

We should even offer to help develop the red states, which for decades have been under performing and leeches off the blue ones, unquote, leeching off the blue ones.

You know, this is like, is this guy paying any attention? Like, it is the blue states that are trying to get the red states to pay for their mismanagement.

It's the blue states that are going about California. You have everyone moving out.

Why? They can't afford to live there because of the mismanagement. New York, New Jersey, you have all these blue states, solid blue states for many decades.

And they're the ones that are saying that they're going to go bankrupt if the red states don't help fund them.

They're doing this under the guise of covid. And they're saying, well, they had more you know, they had more cases.

Of course, now that you have Florida having a lot of cases there that, you know, remember for for this guy,

Russ, go and listen to New York's governor, Andrew Cuomo, and his criticism against Florida's governor for not being willing to support

New York, that somehow that was wrong because they were New York was was in need of money and going to go bankrupt and Florida had to pay.

It's the red states that are producing, not the blue states. The blue states have failed policies.

That's what gave us so many of these covid deaths was was their policies of sending people back into nursing homes that have covid.

They've they're just hand out money, hand over fist to try to get votes. And then they expect the red states to pay for it.

And yet he says that they're the ones underperforming in leeches. How are they the leeches?

It's the red states that don't have as many of a problem with the covid. They didn't do the shutdown. Let's just look at some hard facts.

Unemployment rate in blue states average six and a half percent. Average unemployment rate in red states, eleven and a half percent.

Those are real numbers. Those are real numbers, folks. The economy is doing much better in the red states.

Overall, you compare all the red versus blue states. What do you see? You see the blue states, the ones that are underperforming as far as leeching off of.

Well, when the blue states are demanding that the red states have to pay money for their failed policies, otherwise they're going to go bankrupt.

But I could be wrong, but isn't that kind of the definition of leeching? Yes, it's also kind of the definition of redistribution.

Ah, is that what this is? Isn't that what Barack Obama, you know, the guy that was that Biden was the running mate on Biden?

Yeah, yeah, I think so. So wasn't it wasn't Obama that said we needed to redistribute the wealth?

Yeah, I think so. I think so. I guess it must be an agenda at work. Yeah, I guess what the nerve of those red states thinking that because they actually work for something and earn something that they should be able to keep that something.

And I mean, for the blue states that feel that everyone needs to be stealing from them. I mean, we have we have the justifying of stealing left and right.

Look at the Black Lives Matter. Oh, some some guy chases is chasing a police officer with a knife.

And therefore, the response is to go into Walmart, break into Walmart and steal everything.

That's not called a protest, folks. That's called a riot. And it needs to get stopped.

But they would justify and say, no, that's reparations. No, it's stealing. Yeah, it's stealing.

I know you had something you want to say on that on that point. No, I agree with you.

It's just it's absurd. It's it's a Romans. I mean, I read this guy's article, the first reading.

I'm like, debase mind. This guy just facts don't matter. This I can't even.

He seems incapable of even looking at history, which he he starts out citing.

Let's use history as a guide. Are you kidding? And this is how you're using it. You can't even think rationally and logically and employ facts as the facts reveal.

So I was thinking, you know, debase mind. And when you get to that red state and blue, and I'm like, you're kidding.

This this guy who I think is primarily known for his musical talent with his own band,

I guess, called Magic Animal or something. Yeah, I'm not right. Yeah, that is. He's a writer, musician and band strategist in New York and Asia.

But, you know, this is what frustrates me is there's one line in this whole article that, you know, they've they've have a way of,

I guess, highlighting it in Twitter. And there's only one line that's highlighted as a top highlight. It says this, quote,

For the sake of our country, we have to do what is, quote, good

Christians, unquote, are unable to do for themselves. Turn the other cheek, unquote. So so this this is what he's saying.

Christians are unable to turn the other cheek, but for the sake of the country, we have to do what good

Christians are unable to do themselves. Turn the other cheek. Yeah, who's who?

Which side of this party started the not my president? Was that was that Republicans under Obama or was that liberals under Trump?

No, no. I think it was the first. I think it was the first group. Yeah, you think

I just didn't get that because because I remember I remember people saying

Trump was not their president. There was a hashtag. I don't remember people doing that under Obama.

There were people that didn't believe he was legitimately born here, but they weren't saying he wasn't their president.

Who was it that said that the presidents were? Here's a simple question. Have the Democrats accepted any

Republicans since George W. Bush as being legitimate? No, they said that George W.

Bush won by by cheating by the Supreme Court, giving it to him. And then he didn't have the popular vote trumpets by Russia, even though we now know that Russia, you know, was influencing both sides.

And the tie that with, you know, Russia, you know, supposedly that came out. The Obama administration can spy on them was actually nothing.

There was nothing there. They made it up. So a three year investigation and an impeachment, all based on false charges, things that Biden actually did.

I mean, if the people really want to do that, but we end up seeing is what we see is the left is having game plans to cause riots, chaos, destruction, and to stop the economy.

If Trump wins, that does not sound like turning the other cheek. Remember, this is a liberal speaking to his liberal base saying this is a radical idea for the sake of the country.

He's recommending that they turn the other cheek. What does that tell you that his side is looking to do?

They're not turning. They're not turning the other cheek. You did not see riots when Obama became president.

You didn't see that. There weren't Christians doing that. So Christians are able to turn the other cheek.

See, this is the thing that infuriates me is the hypocrisy here that they use Christianity and attack

Christianity for the sake of arguing for the very things that are against Christianity.

They're projecting their behavior on Christians. But this is, again, a game plan that they have is to cause destruction in this country if they don't get their way.

They're like a bunch of spoiled children. If Trump has the nerve to follow the law and do it as his responsibility and put

Justice Barrett on the court, they're going to fight that by stacking the court.

But I don't know if you saw my Facebook post. I think what Trump should do now that all Democrats are arguing, well, the population has grown and we need to add more justices to the court.

That was Pelosi who said that. But all the Democrats, including Biden, won't answer the question. But they're all saying, you know, by his not answer, it seems like an answer.

But Democrats are coming out saying they need to add more justices. I think Trump should come out and just agree with the

Democrats and he should push that he's going to add five more justices right now.

Yeah. I mean, how funny would that be? The left would go berserk saying he's stacking the courts.

That's so wrong. He's just agreeing with you. Yeah, yeah. So even if he's a lame duck, he could do that.

Yeah, he's still president. And, you know, I mean, what would they do if he did that? You know, they would freak out.

But all he's doing is exactly what they say they want to do. Right. So, I mean, this is the thing we end up seeing with this is there.

The left has no intention of conceding that they lost if they lose.

Their thing is like spoiled children who don't get their way. They're upset. They're going to pick up their toys and go home if they don't get their way.

And to have the nerve to say that good Christians are unable to do this. It's the

Democrat Party that's unable to do this. They've shown no desire to turn the other cheek. No, I just, you know,

I read that and I read the whole thing and I'm thinking, you know, this really doesn't even sound postmodern. This this actually sounds very modern in these in the sort of secularist sense, the humanist sense.

And that would be two points. The idolatry of state. We actually don't need

God. We'll cite God when it fits our agenda, which is what Biden has done in his article.

That's what this guy slightly does. But the state really is going to be the solution to all our problems.

And here's how we need to act under Biden administration and show this presumed grace.

But the other thing is that it's this sense of savior complex that this guy's writing from that that that we can save.

You know, the Democrats can do it. We can actually show turn the other cheek. We can show these presumed virtues that they can't because what you've alluded to earlier, sons of disobedience, you don't have the ability to do this.

This this is for those in Christ. Well, that's the underlying theme of this whole thing, because he's going to argue we have to do this for love of country, love of humanity, love of planet.

Well, if you loved humanity, you wouldn't be supporting the murdering of millions of children in the womb.

OK, this is not love of humanity. It is the Christians who love humanity. It's the

Christians who actually are looking to take care of the planet. OK, who actually are doing what's best for the country.

These these leftists want to destroy everything. So he says so after the election, assuming there's still a country left to live in, what we what he says, assuming there's a country left to live in.

And if Putin hasn't stolen it again. So right there is the narrative like Putin didn't steal it because all those people that were out there every day saying there's tons of evidence under oath said there was nothing.

Nothing. And that's it. So who did get paid by Putin's? Oh, it was

Biden. Biden. Ah, Biden was paid by the Chinese, by the

Russians, you know. Oh, OK. So so and he's saying, but it's interesting saying we still have a country left.

What does that mean? That means like after all the rioting, because that's the leftist doing it.

I know they're trying to blame Trump for it, but that's the leftist doing it. He goes, I want I want you to remember everything

I'm saying here. I hope you'll join me and the rest of the Democrats, independents and never Trumpers as we forgive, as we forge a relationship with Trump supporters.

How about you do that now? Where have you been for four years? You see, he says he could turn that we have to turn the other cheek.

Here's the hypocrisy. They never did that. For years, Trump has been fighting not just the

Democrats, but the media, but the leftists everywhere. They've never accepted anything.

Everything he does is wrong. You know, he if he closes the country to because of this virus, he's a racist xenophobe.

But then he didn't do it fast enough. Right. There's there's no scenario where people that are buying into this nonsense with Biden ever see

Trump doing anything right. If Trump comes out today and says he's going to stack the courts, you're going to see them turn away from stacking the courts.

That's a bad thing. How could he even think of doing such a thing? That's that's what they're going to argue. And this is what we end up seeing with with them.

There is a there's never a case where they're going to accept anything that he does.

So so this article ends by saying, quote, because the cold, hard truth is that despite all of America's many accomplishments, it was never truly great.

There was always a dark side to all of the light. Now we have an opportunity to try to stamp out that darkness once and for all.

Unquote. What was the darkness? I mean, is he talking the darkness of racism that the

Democrats are supporting because they're the party of racists now? They've always been. They supported racism when they supported slavery.

They supported racism when they were the party of the KKK. They were supported racism when they were fighting against blacks ability to vote.

They were they were fighting for racism when they were fighting against the civil rights. But then once the civil rights bill was done and they saw that they can create welfare and keep a bunch of blacks in uneducated, keep them poor, keep them voting

Democrat. Suddenly they were for the blacks, but still racist. That's the party of the

Democrats. If you're going to argue, you're going to stamp out the darkness. What's the darkness calling people subhuman? Well, that was the

Democrat Party under slavery, and it's the Democrat Party now under abortion. They still categorize a group, large group of population of human beings as nonhumans so that they can control them, either keeping them enslaved or killing them.

I'm sorry, but America was great in many things. But we still live in a sinful world where the prince of the power of this air, that spirit of this world, you know, the one that, you know,

Graham's granddaughter was arguing for, that spirit, that's the spirit of this world. That spirit is the one that is roaming around this world.

That spirit is the one that keeps every country from being as great as it could be. The only time we're going to have a great country, if you believe in a millennium, would be in a millennium where Christ is ruling.

But even then there's going to be sinners even there. So, but the reality is there is no country that's going to be great.

But what is the greatness that this guy would argue for, seeing he's from the left? Greatness to allow homosexuality to reign, to put an end to Christianity?

In other words, it's intolerance for everything that he doesn't agree to. That's what he's going to call darkness.

But you know, he said earlier in the article, which is just unbelievable, the alternative that he's promoting, which is also the solution, and which has been touted by everyone from Jesus to Buddha to the

Beatles to Harry Potter is love. Yeah, this is the problem.

We don't understand, he doesn't, what love really is.

And to put Jesus in the category with those guys just reflects, you are just illiterate biblically, faithfully, scripturally.

He's not claiming to be a Christian either, by the way. Well, let's end with this bud, because he does talk about love and this is the problem.

He ends up saying that you could boil it down to, he says, most decisions in life boil down to choosing between one of two things, love and fear.

Everything in Trump and his allies, enables and supporters is 100 % fear -based, masquerading as rage, divisiveness and anger.

The reality is when you look, Trump is the optimist. He's the one saying how great

America is. He's the one saying everything that's going well. Biden's the one going, you should be at your home and afraid, afraid, afraid.

You're not even dealing with reality, but love. So Democrats are really the party of fear. I'm not going to say that Trump is the party of love because I don't think that would be the case, but I think he's more a party of optimism.

But here is the reality. What we see in our culture is a wrong understanding of what love is.

They believe in the false gospel of God is love. Is God love? Yes.

Scripture makes that clear. God is love. But how do you define love? Love is not that God spoils us.

That's how they define love. That God should give me everything I want. I'm a spoiled brat and I want to get my way.

And if he doesn't give me my way, he doesn't exist. That is what the world system is teaching.

They're a bunch of spoiled children. And that is what we end up seeing.

And so what we have is a case where they say love is that God should spoil them.

That's not love. No parent who gives a child everything they want loves that child.

They're doing damage to that child. Love is to correct, to tell the truth.

And the most truthful thing we could tell anybody is, as we read out of Ephesians in the beginning, that naturally we are children of wrath.

But God came to earth as a man died so that we can have the forgiveness of sin.

That we that receive Christ can have the right to be called a child of God.

That is the real gospel. It is not this thing that God is love. God is love. God is love.

He is, but he's also wrath. Psalm 711. God is a just judge and he is angry with the wicked every day.

And if you are not in Christ, then you are in the category of receiving his wrath.

The most loving thing we could do is tell you to repent, put your faith in Jesus Christ and have the forgiveness of sin.

Otherwise, the moment you die, you have eternal punishment to look forward to.

And we don't want that for anyone. That is the biblical gospel compared to the gospel of the left.

The gospel of the left is, God should give me everything I want because I'm so wonderful. Get over yourself.

You don't have a proper perspective of who God is and who you are. God is the very call of Christ to come to him.

Deny yourself. Take up your cross daily and follow me. It is not about you. Correct.

I mean, look, we're speaking about an infinitely holy, infinitely just God, a

God who has nothing to do with sin. In fact, the only way we know right from wrong justice from injustice is from the character and nature of God.

All the talks and the protests on the street asking for justice, you don't know what justice is if you don't know the character of God.

And to sit here and demand justice when you're pleading for what God would say is injustice, you can't argue

God is, well, this is God. No, you have a wrong God. Yeah. And what we've seen throughout this show today,

I know we've gone longer. This is probably one of the longest shows you and I've ever done, bud. But it is something that we want you to see how

Scripture should inform everything that we're doing in life. How are you going to go vote on Tuesday?

It should be informed by Scripture. This is where I do agree with Graham's granddaughter. Scripture should be the thing that is our underlying principle for everything.

The problem is Scripture is against everything she said. She's going to commit blasphemy of the

Spirit by saying that she's going to attribute the works of the devil to God. Blasphemy.

To sit here and support a party of death and destruction that stands up for everything

God hates and say, this is love, people need to repent.

So maybe this wasn't the most enjoyable show, but next week we'll have a lot more fun because we'll have

Andrew Smith on, a great pastor down in Florida and down in that sunny weather area like you, bud.

And we're going to talk more about the masks because a lot of people are asking for it. And we had planned with Anthony to give a biblical response as well.

But Anthony provided so much of the scientific information that we were afraid of going too long.

So we wanted to split it up. So next week we're going to have an episode on masks. Now, I will say we haven't heard, but I did put a plea out.

I am hoping to soon have the award -winning podcaster from Voice of Reason Radio, and that would be

Chris Honholds, who wrote an article on white fragility. And I'm hoping to have him on to discuss his article.

If you want to read the article ahead of time, go to slavefortheking .com and he wrote a book review on that book.

Check that out because this is a book that lots of people are looking to, to inform the church on how we're supposed to behave and respond.

And that is one you're going to want to read, to know what's being taught. And I need to thank you, Andrew, because this was so exciting for me.

It was like the highlight of my week. Chris finally followed me on Facebook, and it's because of my association with you.

While I hesitated about that, I turned out to be grateful for it. So that would be fun.

That would be great. Did you hear that I finally made it on to Voice of Reason? Did you? No. Yeah, we were at the conference.

Oh, yeah, the Cruciform. Cruciform conference. Chris did an interview with me just because he needed a fourth person.

He had like the better guys, but he needed someone else to throw in as a fourth. So I was the token guy.

I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, if you go listen to Voice of Reason radio from the Cruciform conference and just listen to the last like 10 seconds,

I'm convinced. He says he didn't think about it beforehand. But the last 10 seconds, I think he interviewed me just for that one line at the end of the interview.

I'm just saying you guys go listen and see whether you think it was he was setting me up for the last 10 seconds.

I think he was. Voice of Reason radio, go check it out. And with that, bud.

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