September 20, 2021 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “Proper Heroes Put in Their Proper Place in the Lives of Christians” (Part 6)

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Chris Arnzen your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio wishing you all a happy Monday on this 20th day of September 2021 and I'm so thrilled to have back as a returning guest one of my very favorite guests to interview and one of my most frequently interviewed guests

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Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III who is an author and he's the pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia and we are addressing part six of the theme

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Proper Heroes Put in Their Proper Place in the Lives of Christians and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr.

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Joe Moorcraft. It's always enjoyable to be with you Chris. I really appreciate that brother, well tell us about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

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Heritage Presbyterian Church is about five years old, we're a member of the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Hanover Presbytery.

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We are committed to the original Westminster Confession of Faith and Larger Shorter Catechism.

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We're dedicated to carrying out the Great Commission and we've been undergoing a growth spurt recently, we have about 660 members, but we received two people last

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Sunday, this coming Sunday we're receiving three, I'm having dinner

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Wednesday with a couple, they're going to join the week after that and we have two or three more families that are in the process of joining, so God has given us a growth spurt in the past few weeks.

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Well praise God for that, always love to hear about people discovering and joining good solid biblically faithful churches.

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If anybody wants more information on the church where Dr. Moorcraft is the pastor, you can simply go to their website, which is very easy to remember,

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HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com, HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com,

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and hopefully we'll remember to mention that again toward the end of the program.

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I always like to plug something that is a very valuable tool, resource, available to the body of Christ that is really an unknown, or should

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I say a little -known gem, that more people should discover and purchase, and that is your very long series of books, in fact it's eight volumes, and it's called

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Authentic Christianity, An Exposition of the Theology and Ethics of the Westminster Larger Catechism, tell us about that.

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That book represents several hundred sermons I preached in the 1990s and on into the 21st century to my congregation.

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They're not lectures in an academic setting, they are sermons that I preach to a congregation on Sunday evening.

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I know people that use it in their family worship every night, I know others that use it in their homeschool,

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I even know one man that read through all eight volumes in three months. And it is, the

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Westminster Larger Catechism is one of the great documents in the history of the Church that explains the

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ABCs and the XYZs of the historic

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Christian faith. Biblical Christianity is pure human expression. It talks about everything from predestination to the second coming and everything in between.

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It has some of the greatest teachings on ethics, morality, and its questions on the

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Ten Commandments. And by God's grace, people made donations to make this possible, and it is selling.

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I know one man that bought about 40 sets, and they're made available on westminstercommentary .com.

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The publisher did a great service. They're a beautiful set of books. I think they're readable.

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I don't claim to be a great writer. They're something that I think any homeschool, any family, and preachers could read and hopefully benefit from.

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Also, I want to read a commendation for these volumes by Dr.

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Joseph A. Piper, Jr., president of Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, who is very well -known, world -renowned, in fact, amongst

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Reformed Christians. He says about this eight -volume commentary of yours, Every Christian who is serious about the

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Reformed faith and the Westminster Standards should have and use this set.

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It is much more than an exposition of the larger catechism. It is a thoroughly researched work that utilizes biblical exegesis as well as historical and systematic theology.

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That is a very powerful commendation from a very powerful man. Oh, it is humbling, and I really appreciate him for saying that.

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And I hope to have Dr. Piper back again on the program at some point as a returning guest in the near future.

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Just to plug him, his book entitled The Lord's Day, in my opinion, is the best book on the

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Lord's Day since the New Testament. Wow, that's good to know. Maybe that will be our subject of discussion when he returns as a guest.

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Oh, it would be a wonderful session. Now I want you to tell us about the website that has been created by one of your elders,

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Tim Renshaw, called ComprehensiveChristianity .com. Tim Renshaw is an elder, a man in his fifties who gave up his job to spend time transcribing, editing, and publishing manuscripts and papers, and things like that, that are in boxes in my office, and makes them available on Kindle, eBook, paperback, and he has several.

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Some of them are free, so I recommend you hear, so be sure to get all the free ones. There's a 600 -page commentary on the book of Genesis.

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There's a book on worship. There's a book on liberty and justice for all. There's a book on liberation theology.

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There's an eight -volume set called the Comprehensive Study of the Bible, in which I have a chapter on each of the books of the

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Some of them are written in my hand, my notes that he took them from, and he's working now on a commentary on Job that represents about 54 sermons on the book of Job, and then he's doing another one on the book of Luke, which took me five or six or seven years to get through.

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So ComprehensiveChristianity .com. Great. Well, this has turned out to be a theme that I never dreamed would be continuing to stretch out to a sixth part, and that is proper heroes put in their proper place in the lives of Christians, and every one that we have done has been so fascinating to me that it has been bating my breath, as they say, with a desire to learn more, to learn about and discover more

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Christian heroes, either ones that I've never heard of before or ones that I have heard about but didn't know nearly as much as I thought about them.

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So what do you have in store for us to begin with with part six of proper heroes put in their proper place in the lives of Christians?

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Let me encourage people to go to your archives and listen to the previous ones. We've gone through the history of the

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Church looking at great heroes, and the last time we were together we were in the 19th century, so we'll stay in the 19th century this time.

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And the American churches entered into the 19th century with a spirit of optimism, a confidence in the future, a solid hope for the victory of the kingdom of Christ in history, but that victory orientation of Christianity was too dangerous for Satan.

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So in the 19th century, Satan gave several hammer blows to the churches in this country to break them and to break their hope and to compromise their faith.

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So in the early part of the 19th century, late 18th century, you had various philosophical transplants from Europe that had the effect of compromising

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Christianity, especially through Puritan New England. There was Unitarianism and Deism and Transcendentalism and Romanticism.

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And then there was Darwinism, and it started spreading all over the country, and in churches even those that had been conservative were naive.

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They didn't realize the dangers of Charles Darwin and what he was really saying.

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Coupled with that, in this country you had the malignant widespread influence of a preacher by the name of Charles Grandison Finney.

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Now Charles Grandison Finney's theology was probably one of the worst theologies of any preacher in the

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United States before or since. It was Malagian. Yes, in fact, he was more works -righteous oriented and believed more in the unfettered freedom of man and his natural state than Roman Catholics.

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Yes, sir, he was. He wasn't even fully Malagian. He was

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Malagian. And Malagianism was what

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Augustine in the 4th and 5th century thought was like. Unfettered man, basically.

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Let me ask you a question. I don't know if you're familiar with my friend

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Jerry Johnson, a very brilliant Reformed brother. But he said something quite interesting.

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He actually produced a documentary, which you can get on DVD, I believe still on Amazon, on the heresies of Finney.

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But he said Charles Finney was not a synergist, as most people claim.

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He was actually a monergist, but not a good kind of monergist that gives credit entirely to the sovereignty of God in one's salvation.

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He was a monergist in that all of the credit goes to man. Would you agree with that assessment?

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Oh, that is well said. Charles Brandes and Finney invented the altar call. And he was famous for his in -quote revivals.

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And what he would do, he wrote books on revivals. And he could draw a crowd. And he could get people stirred up.

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He had speaking abilities. But he told people, revivals aren't prayed down, they're worked up.

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That you do the things that I'm telling you to do in these books of mine on revival, and you will have revival in your church.

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That it's not the work of God, it's basically the work of man. And he was a perfectionist. His theology, like you say, was man -centered through and through.

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And because he was such an effective speaker and writer, his theology invaded

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Christian churches that were even sound before him. What's interesting about Charles Brandes and Finney is the revivals that he had had no lasting spiritual effect because they were not spirit -produced, they were man -produced.

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They had no lingering spiritual effect. But there was one thing that the revivals did produce, and whenever Charles Finney would go into a town and have a big revival, nine months later there would be an outbreak of babies.

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Now, I'm not saying anything about Charles Brandes and Finney. I'm saying that his revivals stirred up people and worked up their emotions and got them into white heat.

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And that's all it contributed except it diluted Christianity. Even the

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Presbyterian Church in this country that was famous for its true revivals in the 18th century and for its great, solid preachers, even the

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Presbyterian Church allowed itself to be influenced by the followers of Charles Brandes and Finney and others like a man named

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Barnes who wrote a commentary on the books of the Bible that's still available today, and others that were no longer the strong Reformed emphasis but were what

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I call the democratization of Christianity. That is, with this rise of a democratic spirit in the

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United States, man has his vote, man has his say, man has his rights, man has his autonomy.

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All of those things worked themselves into the Christian Church and the

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Presbyterian Church so that the preachers in the

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Presbyterian Church were asleep. They knew that the church had been sound for generations and they expected it to continue to be sound, so they went to sleep at the wheel.

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And so in the 1830s, I think 1837 maybe, there was a general assembly of the

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Presbyterian Church in this country and there were charges brought against this

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Barnes man that wrote these commentaries on the Bible because of his false doctrine and his attacks on the

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Reformed faith. And then when the vote came to find him guilty of false doctrine, the vote failed.

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These followers of Barnes and Finney and men like that had wormed their way into the

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Presbyterian Church so that they couldn't. It scared these great preachers to death.

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They just could not believe that they could not get enough votes to find

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Barnes and Company guilty. So I think that was maybe in 1836.

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1837, the old school men, that is the men that were really solid, came out in full force and there was a vote for moderator and the

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Barnes -Finney people put up one man and the old school

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Calvinists put up another and everybody knew that how that went would determine how the whole

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Presbyterian Church would go and whether it would cave in to this democratization of Christianity.

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Well, the good guy won and so that general assembly proceeded to pass a resolution to expel every preacher and church in the

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Presbyterian Church that held the new school Presbyterianism. That is the non -reformed evangelicalism of Barnes and worse with Finney.

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So in one fell swoop they expelled hundreds of churches and thousands of people and many, many preachers.

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So that formed the new school Presbyterian Church which was not really reformed.

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And that's a whole other story and a fascinating story on the influence of new school

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Presbyterianism on the transformation of evangelicalism in the 19th century. In fact, I don't know if you enjoyed this book as much as I did, but Ian Murray wrote,

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I believe, a superb book called Revival and Revivalism where he contrasted the heresies and the so -called revivals of Finney with the genuine revival that God brought about through Asahel Middleton.

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Great book. It is a great book. I recommend everybody read so that you can understand the nature of Christianity in America and the dangers of non -reformed evangelicalism that is so popular in this country but which is influenced by these false teachers of the 19th century and even they are influenced by medieval

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Roman Catholicism but they don't even know it. Yeah, it is a mystery why so many of our fundamentalist brethren who despise, rightly despise, the heresies of Roman Catholicism embraces a hero,

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Charles Finney, who is worse in heresy than the Romanists in regard to the same issues that fundamentalists deny

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Romanism. So it is just mind -boggling how they could be so duped by exalting him as one of the great heroes of the faith.

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Yes, sir, that is true. Well, those are some of the trends and movements that weakened

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Christianity in the early 19th century. You have with that the war between the states and the

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Reconstruction after that that totally demolished the

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South and you have sort of by the end of the 19th century that spirit of optimism had changed in the church to theological pessimism.

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There was still this optimism in America but it was secularized. There was the talk of industrialization and of progress that once dominated the old

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Christian church but which it lost in the first part of the 19th century and it was secularized.

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But throughout that century even though there were many setbacks and even though there were many setbacks there were some great moments of triumph and some great giants that people need to remember and to read their biographies and to show that I am not partisan.

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Some of them are from the North and some are from the South. And let's start with the

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North. We know about the great awakening of the 1740s and during that time some of these great preachers formed a seminary to train people in the ministry called the

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Log College and that Log College eventually became Princeton Seminary in Princeton, New Jersey.

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And throughout the 19th century on up until 1921 Princeton Seminary was the greatest bulwark of Reformed Orthodoxy in the world.

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Amen. In fact, can I quickly plug if my listeners go to cvbbs .com cvbbs .com

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and order the book, the biography of B .B. Warfield that was written by my dear friend

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Dr. Fred Zaspel and if they don't have it in stock they'll order it for you. His last name is

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Z -A -S -P -E -L and his first name is Fred and the book is a biography of B .B.

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Warfield and at some point I will look up the exact title for you but right now

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I just know it was a biography an excellent biography of Warfield, but I'm sorry. Well, an early professor at Princeton named

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Archibald Alexander wrote a great book on the Log College I think published by Banner Group the

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Log College and then I think a man named David Calhoun who is contemporary wrote a great book or maybe two of them on the history of Princeton Seminary and all of those are well worth reading not just for preachers but for people in the pew too to see the history of how the

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Christian Church has changed and not just the Christian Church but the Christian Church in America.

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So Princeton became a great center for training men in the gospel ministry from a distinctively

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Reformed perspective and several of my heroes were professors at Princeton Seminary.

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We don't have time to talk about all of them but there's some I want to emphasize for sure four of them.

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There's great men like Archibald Alexander he has a biography produced

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I think by Banner of Truth his great great great great great nephew led me to Christ and he was quite a man but the men

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I want to talk about are the Hodge family is the Hodge family. I interviewed

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Charles Hodge's great grandson You did? Where is he?

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He has a musical ministry where he puts on performances that people can see like a concert and the name of the band is

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Princeton Revival Unbelievable that is a great name for a band and his name is

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Greg Hodge he spells Greg with two G's I'm sorry he spells

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Greg with three G's two G's at the end and I've got to get him back on the program he is quite a fascinating character.

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How old is he? I don't know. I never asked him that question. That's amazing.

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Well Charles Hodge was amazing too. There's a biography of Charles Hodge there is a three volume systematic theology by Charles Hodge that is the first systematic theology

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I ever had and ever read. Charles Hodge taught for many years at Princeton and I want to show you something which you already know about the power of God's covenant in families

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Charles Hodge taught for a long time at Princeton Seminary held the chair of theology and then when he passed off the scene his son

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Archibald Alexander Hodge took his place and he also has several great books you can get a book from Banner of Truth by him called

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Evangelical Theology and the best things I've ever seen written on the kingdom of Christ are in that book and he also wrote a great commentary on the larger catechism excuse me on the

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Westminster Confession of Faith and he took Charles Hodge's place and he preached and taught for a long time at Princeton Seminary then after him came

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Casper Wister Hodge to teach there so for generation after generation after generation

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God's covenant proved to be real in these faithful men from the same family training generations of young men for the gospel ministry

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I recommend all their books one of the greatest men that ever lived in the history of the church one of the greatest scholars who got me through a liberal seminary so to speak was

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Benjamin Breckinridge Warfield Warfield taught at Princeton in the late part of the 19th century and in the very early part of the 20th century he died in 1920 -1921 he

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I went to a liberal seminary called Columbia Theological Seminary a liberal Presbyterian seminary in Decatur, Georgia and fortunately it wasn't difficult and it wasn't that intellectually challenging so I had a lot of time this was back in 1967 or 68 and I had a lot of time to read on my own so I bought everything

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I could possibly buy of Benjamin Warfield and that's what I spent my time doing was reading him there was one old really reformed professor at Columbia that they put out the past year made him retire named

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William Charles Robinson Banner of Truth is also a biography of William Charles Robinson Robinson studied under Warfield In fact, could you pick up on Robinson when we return from our first break?

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Body of Christ that is truly edifying and valuable and if you've just tuned us in, our guest today is my friend,

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Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, and we are discussing part six of Proper Heroes Put in Their Proper Place in the

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Yes, I was bringing out how the I was at a liberal seminary for three years it wasn't intellectually challenging so I read

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Warfield every day and there was one old professor there who who studied under Warfield and who was a great man named

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William Charles Robinson, and he was in Warfield's last class, it was on First John, and the last thing that my old professor heard

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Warfield say in that class was, quote, young gentlemen make much of the blood.

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So I own the Greek New Testament that William Charles Robinson used in Benjamin Warfield's class.

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Warfield was a giant of men when it came to, and fearless, when it came to understanding the scriptures and expounding it and defending the faith.

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There's so many things that he's written that I would like to recommend, but I'm going to limit myself to some.

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By the way, when he was newly married and went on his honeymoon, his wife for some reason became paralyzed and he took care of her all his life.

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He wrote one of the greatest articles I've ever read on anything called

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The Emotional Life of Our Lord, and it's on the emotions the human emotions of Jesus, and it's in a book called,

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I think it's called Christology, it's something with the word Christ in it, and it is a masterful book.

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He also wrote another book called Augustine and Calvin. It talks a great deal about Augustine, some of the best things

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I've ever read about Augustine, and also some of the best things I've ever read about John Calvin.

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He wrote another article that I recommend to people called The Prophecies of St.

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Paul, and he goes through the writings of the Apostle Paul and expounds the prophecies that he made about the second coming and about what's going to take place between now and the second coming, and that was a very insightful article.

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Of course, one of his most famous and important books is on the inspiration of the Bible, the inspiration of Scripture.

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It is a several hundred page book defending the inerrancy of Scripture, and Cornelius Van Til wrote the introduction to it.

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So those are the great heroes and giants of the faith that kept back the complete flooding of Christianity, held back the waters of the flooding and destruction of Christianity that had begun in the 19th century.

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If it wasn't for men like these, the church in this country would have fallen long before it did.

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But they held back the tide, and even though they're dead, they still speak, and they're still influencing young men like me when

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I was young, and old men like me while I'm old. I still read them.

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I still learn from Warfield and Hodge. My professor also studied under what he called the last

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Hodge Mohican, and you get his biography.

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He held his ground back in the 40s in Southern Presbyterian Church and kept it from sliding into apostasy.

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It would have slid quicker had it not been for William Charles Robinson, who studied under Benjamin Warfield.

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But also in the South, in the Southern states, they were giants of men.

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Unitarianism was spreading rapidly, democratization of Christianity, Plagianism, all these other things were spreading rapidly in the

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United States in the early 19th century, and God used several things to hold them back.

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He used Princeton Seminary. He used the formation of the old -school Presbyterian Church.

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He used these great giants in the Southern Presbyterian Church. He used genuine revivals produced by the

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Holy Spirit that took place in this country at various times in the 18th and 19th century, and the last great revival,

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I think, that America ever had was this extraordinary revival among the

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Confederate soldiers during the Civil War. Thousands and thousands and thousands were converted to Jesus Christ through the powerful preaching of the chaplains, but also

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God used the Scotch -Irish to hold back tides of Unitarianism.

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And in the South, there were several men whose books are still available that I'm particularly partial to.

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One was a man named James Henley Thornwell. Thornwell was an intellectual.

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He was eloquent. He wrote a three -volume set of theology books produced by Banner of Truth that are a delight to read, particularly his chapter, as far as I'm concerned, on the covenant of works in the

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Garden of Eden. Yeah, I'm glad that you uphold him as a hero, because he happens to have believed firmly in something that I strongly advocate.

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He rejected the baptism of Roman Catholics and insisted that they be baptized correctly.

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He wrote a whole book on it. Yes, and it's very rarely upheld as a belief today amongst

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Presbyterians, but he shines through. Yes, sir. He died a young man.

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He wasn't old. One of my favorite stories about James Henley Thornwell is his conversion.

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He taught at, I think, the University of South Carolina. I think that was the president.

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And somebody gave him a copy of the

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Westminster Confession of Faith, and he read it. He wasn't a

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Calvinist at the time. I wouldn't know that he was Christian. And he read the

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Westminster Confession of Faith in one sitting. And as soon as he read it, he immediately cried out to God to save him from his sins and received

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Christ. That's the only person I ever knew or heard of that was saved by reading the

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Westminster Confession of Faith. But he did. And then there was another great man who's really one of my heroes.

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I wrote a lengthy introduction to his sermons. His name was Benjamin Palmer.

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Benjamin Palmer preached in New Orleans for decades. There's only one volume of his sermons available, produced by Sprinkle Publications.

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It's massive. But it's the only volume of his sermons. There is a biography that I've read over and over again.

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Well, somebody better start reprinting it because Sprinkle is out of business. Yes, sir. I think probably

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Joe Beakey bought it. He bought it. Joe Beakey bought Mr.

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Sprinkle's theology publications and I think he's selling them. But Benjamin Palmer, whenever I've read his sermons, and when

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I wrote the introduction to his book of sermons, I said whenever I read

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Palmer's sermons, I want to tear up all of my sermons and never preach again. Well, don't ever do that.

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And even though it seemed to go by so quickly, but we're already here at our midway break portion, so we're going to have to pick up on Palmer when we come back from the midway break.

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Moorcraft, pick up right where you left off before the midway break. Benjamin Palmer, one of my heroes, a great

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His sermons are magnificent, expository. They are applied to the conscience.

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There's a biography of him that I've read over and over. There was a plague in New Orleans, that's where he preached.

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There was a plague in New Orleans, maybe yellow fever, I can't remember. And the other preachers in town were fleeing

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He lived on up until the very early years of the 20th century and was killed by a trolley car hitting him.

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One of the most moving stories that I know about Benjamin Palmer is in his latter years, he was attending a

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Robert Dabney was old, he was blind. Benjamin Palmer was weak in his legs, arthritis or something.

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And I would have loved to have been there to see the two men walk into the

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Dabney's eyes and Dabney was Palmer's legs. I'd love to have seen that day those two old giants and war horses coming into the church.

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Robert L. Dabney. Dabney was a preacher, he was a professor.

01:16:30

He was a builder, he built at least two churches, literally. He was a farmer.

01:16:39

He died in the 1890s. Now the Civil War, you know, was in the 1860s.

01:16:47

He died in the 1890s and he was buried in a Confederate soldier's uniform. He never gave up his fight for the

01:16:55

South. He understood what the war between the states was about more than most people of his age,

01:17:02

North or South. He wrote on it in his, there's a series of five books.

01:17:11

Two published by Matter of Truth, three published by Sprinkle Publications called Discussions.

01:17:19

The first two are theological, the last three are theological, philosophical, ecclesiastical, political, historical.

01:17:27

And my favorite of all is Volume 4. I bought several

01:17:34

Volume 4s. I've made sure all of my children have Volume 4 of Dabney's Discussion. I don't believe that the officer gift of prophecy continues, but if there was anything that's ever been close to prophetic, it was

01:17:50

Dabney. And foretelling, I don't mean that in the historical prophetic sense, but seeing into the future what the effects of the war between the states would be on the

01:18:05

United States. So Dabney's Discussions, all of them great, particularly

01:18:15

Volume 4. His students published his notes to his systematic theology class, and you can get that,

01:18:25

Lectures on Systematic Theology. It's one of my very favorite books on systematic theology, because Dabney not only explains various theological truths, he gives expositionary defense for them from the scriptures.

01:18:44

He makes applications of them. He defends them, and it is well worth reading.

01:18:53

It's something that, if you put your mind to it, if you're a serious reader, you don't have to be a seminary graduate or a college graduate, but if you put your mind to it, you concentrate.

01:19:06

You can understand Dabney. Church has a problem today with sustained concentration, and that's why they don't read these great books, because the concentration of people only lasts until the next commercial.

01:19:24

We focus on a television program for a few minutes, and then comes a commercial, and our concentration's broken, and we're used to only concentrating for short periods of time, which has been extremely destructive to reading, and particularly to the

01:19:42

Christian church. So Dabney requires sustained concentration to everything he wrote.

01:19:49

He wrote on dozens and dozens of different subjects. I have a series of sermons, and I wrote a little book on it.

01:19:58

I don't know where you can find that, but it's called How Dabney Looked at the World. And I go through all kinds of areas of thought and life and show how

01:20:12

Dabney wrote on them. Dabney has no theologians perfect except Jesus, and so I'm not saying or concerning any of my heroes to follow them blindly, because the

01:20:30

Bible is to be put above all of them and all of their theology examined in the light of the

01:20:35

Bible. But I think Dabney was one of the great lights of the 19th century that continues to shine to this very day.

01:20:47

People continue to quote him. They continue to read him. There's a great biography of Dabney.

01:20:54

I've read that many times as well. He was a great churchman. There is a biography of Dabney that I don't recommend written by a man named

01:21:05

Lucas, a PCA preacher alive today. It's a pathetic biography of Dabney.

01:21:13

He presents Dabney as a man who's shallow, hollow, whose only concern is fame, and I mean it's slanderous.

01:21:23

Wow. There is one sentence in that book that Lucas said that I agree with.

01:21:31

Quote, I don't know much about Robert Dabney. Why on earth would you write a biography of him if you don't know much about him?

01:21:41

Well, here's my opinion. You ask a question, I give you my opinion. To wean people off of Robert L.

01:21:47

Dabney. See, the modern Calvinists today that aren't really

01:21:52

Calvinists, they're just enough Calvinists to be safe, don't like to read these great men of the past that were distinctively reformed.

01:22:04

I was one time at a conference of liberal pristine preachers, and the person leading the, it was just a seminar of about 30, 40 preachers.

01:22:17

Everybody was liberal but me, and the teacher was Ernest Trice Thompson, who was one of the most famous liberal

01:22:26

Presbyterians of the 20th century, and he was an old man by then.

01:22:31

He wrote history books on Presbyterianism in my lap, and he made a reference to old school

01:22:38

Calvinists who were the great heroes like Thornwell and Hodge and Warfield and Dabney and all the men that we've just been talking about and many, many more.

01:22:52

And so somebody asked him what he meant by old school Calvinism, and he said, well, an old school

01:22:58

Calvinist was somebody who believed that one step toward Arminianism, that is, anti -Calvinism, is one step toward atheism.

01:23:10

He said, but they all died out in the 19th century, and I, who was the youngest preacher in the room, held up my hand and said,

01:23:21

Dr. Thompson, I'm an old school Calvinist. Praise God. So you have modern, safe Calvinists, that's what

01:23:33

I call them. In fact, did I ever tell you, I think I did, that the man who was the first resident in the house where my studio is located,

01:23:45

George Norcross, he was the first pastor of Second Presbyterian Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania, and the reason he became the first pastor of Second Presbyterian Church is because a group of members left

01:24:00

First Presbyterian Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania over new school theology, and George Norcross was a firmly committed advocate of old school

01:24:12

Presbyterianism, and those that left that church came to Second Presbyterian Church, or formed

01:24:20

Second Presbyterian Church, and appointed Dr. Norcross as their pastor, and this was his home.

01:24:26

They actually built the manse or parsonage for him in the 1800s.

01:24:33

Well, one of the most famous old school Calvinist Bible commentators was a pastor there too by the name of T .V.

01:24:44

Moore, and T .V. Moore wrote the best commentary I know of on Zechariah and Malachi.

01:24:52

Yeah, he was a pastor at First Presbyterian before the new school theology corrupted it.

01:25:00

Yeah, sure. Well, that's great to know. So, you have people like Lucas, Keller, and others that don't want you reading

01:25:12

Robert L. Dabney. They want that old school to die out of the picture so that they can bring in their new compromised theology and call it true

01:25:26

Calvinism. And so, there's many people alive today, many, in Presbyterian churches and Baptist churches that are old school

01:25:40

Calvinists, that read Warfield and Dabney and Thornwell and all the rest, and see through their weaknesses but also see the strength and the great distinctiveness of the kind of Calvinism that changed the world, that we pray will change the world again.

01:26:02

So, you have Robert L. Dabney. By the way, the L stands for Lewis, Robert Lewis Dabney. And then there's another man that's not as famous of those at large, but he is famous,

01:26:15

John L. Gerodeau. Gerodeau was also a Southern Presbyterian preacher in the middle and late 19th century.

01:26:25

Was a powerful preacher. There's a book of his sermons and lectures and biology, biography.

01:26:35

And the interesting thing about John L. Gerodeau is his sermons, number one, are very deep.

01:26:46

He had a philosophical bent, and so I really have to concentrate to understand his sermons.

01:26:53

They are so deep and so profound. And what's amazing is now that you know that, is he was a pastor of a church that had standing room only.

01:27:09

And it was comprised of African slaves and free blacks.

01:27:17

And he was white. And every Sunday for years, there was standing room only in that church to hear

01:27:28

Gerodeau preach. Now remember, his sermons,

01:27:34

I really have to concentrate to understand. But you had slaves and free blacks that loved to hear him

01:27:43

Sunday after Sunday after Sunday. That should change people's understanding of the mentality of Africans and free blacks in the

01:27:53

South in the middle and late 19th century. He had a son -in -law named

01:28:01

Robert A. Webb. He's not as famous either. Robert A. Webb is one of my favorite theologians, even though he's not as famous.

01:28:09

He's Gerodeau's son -in -law. He preached in the late 19th century and on into the very, very early 20th century.

01:28:17

And many of his books have been published. Not many, but a lot of his books have been published.

01:28:24

I have carbon copies of his sermons that have never been published. And I use the right word, carbon copies.

01:28:33

Only somebody that's old has used a typewriter where you use a carbon copy so you can have a copy of your type page.

01:28:41

So I have carbon copies of his sermons that someday, I hope, somebody will get them and will publish them.

01:28:48

Maybe Tim Renshaw will. But Robert A., interesting thing about these

01:28:53

Southern Presbyterians, the doctrine of adoption, that when you receive

01:29:01

Christ as your Savior, you're adopted into the family of God and given all the rights and privileges of a son of God, God your

01:29:08

Father. And you have an inheritance in that family. The doctrine of adoption was never really developed in the history of the church that it was believed.

01:29:20

For instance, in the Westminster Confession of Faith, there's 33 chapters. And the chapter on adoption is the shortest chapter.

01:29:28

It's only one paragraph long. And so the church never fully developed the doctrine of adoption except in the

01:29:39

Southern Presbyterian Church. And so Thornwell wrote extensively on it.

01:29:48

Gerardot wrote extensively on it. Robert A. Webb wrote a whole book on it.

01:29:57

So I would encourage people that want to understand more about the wonderful doctrine of adoption, which is one of the most hated doctrines in the modern world, because it shatters the view that God is the

01:30:09

Father of all, and all men are brothers. You don't have God as your Father unless he adopts you into his family.

01:30:18

So it's a hated doctrine. It's a precious doctrine. It has so many ethical implications to it.

01:30:25

And if you really want to take seriously and understand the doctrine of adoption, read these great Southern Presbyterians, Thornwell, Gerardot, and Robert A.

01:30:35

Webb. So those are the giants that held the tide of humanism in the 19th century from spreading more rapidly than it did.

01:30:50

I want to go over the Atlantic to the Netherlands because there was a man that preached in the

01:31:00

Netherlands in the late 1800s and the early 1900s by the name of Abraham Kuyper.

01:31:09

He wrote a lot of books, too. He wrote a great book on the Holy Spirit. He wrote his most famous book, his

01:31:20

Lectures on Calvinism, which is the publishing of his lectures at Princeton Seminary somewhere around the year 1900, 1901.

01:31:33

And Lectures on Calvinism, though it was written so long ago, presents one of the very first books on how to develop a reformed worldview, how you look at theology, politics, art, science, all the rest from a distinctively

01:31:53

Christian perspective. But his story is a fascinating one.

01:31:58

And there are biographies of Kuyper as well. Kuyper is spelled K -U -Y -P -E -R.

01:32:06

What's amazing is as an old man after he retired, he wrote devotional books. So you can find books by Kuyper by which you can have your daily devotions.

01:32:18

And he was led to Christ by a woman in the church after he had already been an ordained pastor.

01:32:24

And he was liberal. Liberalism had gotten into the

01:32:31

Dutch Reformed Church, various denominations, and Kuyper was a liberal.

01:32:39

Initially, he was a liberal. Yes, sir. And he went to visit an old lady in his church, and she led him to Christ.

01:32:50

And he had a massive intellect. He could really analyze and was insightful.

01:32:58

So he realized he had to change his theology, which he did. And he realized that the theology of the

01:33:05

Reformed faith applies to every area of life. It's not just five points of Calvinism. It's 500 points of Calvinism that apply to every area of life.

01:33:13

So he realized, well, this denomination that we're in is liberal. It no longer believes in fallibility of Scripture.

01:33:21

So we're going to have to start a new denomination that's faithful to the word of God. So he did.

01:33:28

And then he realized, well, if we're going to perpetuate the Reformed faith, we've got to have our schools.

01:33:35

We've got to have Reformed colleges. So he founded the Free University of Amsterdam, which for generations was the greatest

01:33:43

Calvinistic institution of higher learning in the world. And then he said, well, we've got to have a church paper so all these

01:33:53

Christians can keep in touch with each other and find out what's going on in the church. So he started a weekly newspaper for Christians.

01:34:03

And he said, well, we've got to have more than that. We've got to have a regular newspaper, daily newspaper, that we can get to everybody,

01:34:11

Christian or not, to explain what's going on in the state and the culture of the world. So he started a newspaper called

01:34:19

The Standard. It became a large newspaper in Netherlands.

01:34:27

And then he said, if we're going to preserve our victories, we're going to have to develop a political party that is distinctly

01:34:38

Reformed. So he started a political party called the Anti -Revolutionary

01:34:43

Party. And by Anti -Revolutionary, he's talking about the French Revolution.

01:34:50

Because the atheistic principles of the French Revolution were like a cancer eating their way through Europe.

01:34:59

And so he started this political party. And by 1920 or so, somewhere in the early 20th century, before 1920, when he died in 1920 -21, in the early 20th century, he was elected prime minister of Holland.

01:35:20

And he was a humble, godly, faithful Calvinist. And so I would recommend, people, if you want to see how you involve yourself and why you should involve yourself in applying the word of God to every area of life, read

01:35:40

Kuyper's biography. After you've read his book lectures on Calvinism.

01:35:48

By the way, you have to promise to write a book from something you just said earlier. You have to write a book titled

01:35:55

The 500 Points of Calvinism. Yeah, well, that's what I try to do in my commentary on the life jacket.

01:36:02

But anyway, so he was a great man.

01:36:08

And the 12 months of the late 1920 and 1921, in my opinion, were the most tragic years in the 20th century.

01:36:21

Because during those 12 months, three men died. Warfield, Kuyper, and then another giant by the name of Herman Babbitt, B -A -B -I -N -C -K.

01:36:35

Oh, yeah. Who wrote a great systematic theology. But it's very, very hard to read.

01:36:43

But it's great to read. Now, isn't everything that he actually wrote in Dutch that had to be translated into English?

01:36:50

Yes, but much of it has. Four -volume systematic theology. There's several things by Babbitt that have been translated into English.

01:36:59

That also requires sustained concentration. So three of the greatest giants of the

01:37:06

Christian church all died within 12 months of each other. And the 20th century never got over it.

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Part 7 in store for this. Oh, yeah. We've got to get to the 20th century. Yeah, that's right.

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But I was finishing up on Abraham Kuyper and the importance of these men, and not just these men, their lesser lives throughout the 19th century that were great men and women.

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Last week, we talked about some of the missionaries. We talked about Daniel Lindley, missionary of the

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Modernism says truth is known by rationalism, by thinking it through, by your subjective intellectual rational state in this world.

01:52:19

And then post -modernism, where we live today, says there is no such thing as truth except that one truth, that there's no such thing as truth.

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And so you've seen the slippery slope from the dominance of the

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Protestant Reformation and before, the Middle Ages, early church, that there is such a thing as divine truth and it's known only by divine revelation.

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To the Enlightenment in the late 1600s, early 1700s, that says there is such a thing as truth, but it's not known by divine revelation, it's known by the human mind and by reason.

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And then in the 20th century, you have the view, post -modernism, the middle and late middle 20th century, the idea there's no such thing as truth.

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Of course, it's self -contradictory because you ask a post -modern person, is that statement true?

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But nevertheless, they say there's no such thing as truth, that what you see is what you get, and that has been devastating.

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One of the greatest symbols of post -modernism that began with modernism and the rejection of divine revelation that spread throughout the 19th century, one of the greatest symbols of post -modernism are these statues on the city square of Cumming, Georgia, where I live, and there's many like them all over the country.

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There is one, there's a statue particularly of an old man carrying a container full of eggs with a little boy by him.

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I presume it's made out of bronze or something, but it's hollow. And that's not because it's cheaper to make a statue out of bronze, it's hollow.

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That's deliberate. And you have statues like that all over the world.

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There's no such thing as self. There's no such thing as consciousness.

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All there is is what you see. And so when you take that into politics, if there's no such thing as truth, then you're left with power.

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And all that's left is power. And so the state is not concerned with doing what is true and doing what is right, but is doing what it has the power to do.

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And of course power always needs symbols to keep people fearful of that power.

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You remember George Orwell? I recommend everybody read his book, 1984. He described our time perfectly.

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He said that the future is a boot -stepping, stomping on a human face forever.

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That the state exerts power and control over people and causes them to be fearful simply because it has the power to do so.

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Now what's the symbol of power that keeps people frightened enough to submit to that power today?

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Masks. Vaccines. I talked to an

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African doctor today, had lunch with him. He said that COVID is the greatest masquerade of the 20th century.

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He teaches medicine at a major medical school in the United States. So understand what masks are.

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Understand what vaccines are. And I'm not telling people to get them or not get them. I am saying they are symbols of power to keep us frightened.

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So the more frightened we are, the more we'll submit to this state who's not concerned about you or me, but is only concerned about itself.

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About the attaining and maintaining and extending and exercising power and control over other people.

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Now I say that because it just didn't happen overnight. It happened when the

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West rejected the view in the late 1600s that truth can only be known by divine revelation.

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The next step was obvious. Truth can only be known by reason.

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And now we live in a world, as Newt Gingrich, former

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Speaker of the House, said, there is no truth from outside the universe.

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Well, the only person that lives outside the universe is God, and he knew exactly what he was saying.

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He was saying the truth is not by divine revelation. If you're going to understand truth, it's got to be from within this creation by the use of reason.

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And he's Mr. Conservative. So here we are.

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All because the West rejected its distinctively reformed base.

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And that is the perfect place that we have to now conclude the program. I want to remind our listeners of all the important websites that are connected with my guest.

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First of all, if anybody wants to visit Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia, whether you are traveling through that area, or if you live near that area, or have family, friends, and loved ones near that area, go to HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com,

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HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com. Also, don't forget about the eight -volume commentary that our guest,

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Dr. Joseph C. Moorcroft III, has written on the Westminster Larger Catechism, Authentic Christianity.

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That's an eight -volume hardback commentary. Go to WestminsterCommentary .com,

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WestminsterCommentary .com. And also don't forget about ComprehensiveChristianity .com,

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ComprehensiveChristianity .com, the website of Tim Renshaw, one of the elders at Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

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Thank you so much, Dr. Moorcroft, for once again being an absolutely fascinating and fact -filled fountain of knowledge on our program.

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I look forward to Part 7 and many more parts to this discussion, and many more discussions on different themes, because I hope that God allows you to be a guest many, many, many more times in the future on Iron Trip and Zion Radio.