F4F | James Prasch Defeats Army of 666 Strawmen

Ministry Introduction and Why This Is the Last Prash Files Installment

Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseborough. I am your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

Now, as promised, this is what I'm hoping to be probably the last installment of the Prash Files, because reality is, is we've already proven our point. It's time to wrap up, show you what we were doing, why we were doing it, and then move on.

That's really what we're at. So, you know, be advised that the next video is going to be a normal installment of Fighting for the Faith. We're going to set a course for the Aletheia and head back out to sea and target the NAR, secret-driven guys, and things like that.

So keep in mind that's coming. This was necessary, and I don't regret doing this at all, and the reason for what I am doing was stated in the video that I did yesterday, talking about, well, James Aloysius.

Yeah, somebody was telling me that the right way of pronouncing that word, Aloysius, James Aloysius Prash, Jr., and his real ancestry, in that video explained why we did what we did, why I was doing what I was doing.

Today will be a little bit of a wrap-up. So one of the things I said today's episode is titled James Prash Defeats an Army of 666 Straw Men, and that's pretty much what he did, but let's walk through this.

Let's take a look at the wrap-up on all of this, and so put together a series of slides, and I will make these also available down below as part of the footnotes for this episode. Again, I'm going to reiterate this.

I'm not here to think for you. Colt will think for you. I'm here to show you how to think biblically so that you can learn how to do this for yourself. Okay, I'm not interested in mind control of thinking for you.

Now, I ask you to come think along with me. That's the idea. So now for kind of like the bigger reveal. I knew that James Prash was going to attack me. I knew this. Why? Because of his history. This is a repeated pattern of behavior, and so as part of the links for today's episode, in the footnotes, again, I'm going to put a link to the worst reality TV show ever created, the videos created by TBC Kawai, where he chronicles the witch-hunting, the demonizing, the over-the-top rhetoric, the straw man arguments, and all the nonsense that that James Prash and his followers engage in, and and you'll see that the pattern that we just went through, I offered a substantive critique of the Prashians.

This resulted in me being attacked personally. Total ad hominem attacks and the subterfuge and nonsense that took place follows the exact same pattern that you can see documented in the worst reality TV show ever.

So what I, again, think for yourself. Watch the episodes put up by TBC Kawai. What happened to me has happened to others, and the fact that it happened to me is proof this is their modus operandi. So the Prash ministry playbook.

What is their playbook? Demonize, misrepresent, slander, and straw man. That's, these are their go-to things that they do, and so we'll talk about this. You know, I've likened it to the the movie talking about, you know, having the burn book.

Mean Girls is the name of it. You know, and I really think this analogy is so fetch. I'm just saying. But this is what they do. So whenever you see, from now on, service Prashy, Joshua Lydia Chavez, attacking myself, Doreen Virtue, John MacArthur, Phil Johnson, Justin Peters, or whoever the next hapless victim is, then you'll note that, oh, yeah, the Prashians have pulled out their burn book again.

So.

Predictable. Yeah, this is their playbook. So I, so I, in here, I say I knew full well that I was going to receive the entire cadre of attacks by Prash before I ever criticized him. In fact, I was counting on it.

Totally counting on it. I knew that by critiquing him, out would come Godzilla. You know, I just, you know, oh, you know, and so I knew this was all gonna happen. And by the way, I predicted this in the downfall meme.

Now, James Prash takes issue with this, but we put a video up, and the name of it was Intercepted Video of a Ministry Strategy Meeting from Cuckoo Banana Land, or Cuckoo Big Banana Land, because John MacArthur is the big banana, you know.

And, and in here, you know, if you're familiar with the downfall meme, you got the, these guys sitting there showing the strategy. And as I laid out, you know, they were laying out the strategy for the destruction of the reputation of Pirate Christian, and they were gonna have Lydia try to prove that I was a Jesuit and all this kind of stuff.

And exactly what I said was gonna happen was gonna happen, and that is, is that the predictable thing happened. I'm a confessional Lutheran, and confessional Lutherans hang on to some very traditional parts of Christianity that much of today's Christianity has fallen by the wayside.

Pastoral uniforms, candles, things like that. And I'm not going to defend them here, because what James Prash said about me is totally false. He built a straw man about my theology. For instance, I do not believe, you know, baptism works ex opera operato.

That's just completely fallacious, which shows he knows nothing about Lutheranism. He's not really interested in accurately portraying those whom he's trying to demonize, and so he's painted me as an ultra-Lutheran, as I'm a Roman Catholic.

No, I'm not. Far from it. I don't know if you guys have noticed, historically, Roman Catholics and confessional Lutherans don't get along, and there's reasons for this. So if anyone wants to know what it is that I believe, teach, confess.

I do not hide it. You can find the doctrines of confessional Lutheranism at bookofconcord .org, and I always teach them from the Scriptures. I hold on to these doctrines because I believe they faithfully represent and summarize what the Scripture teaches.

So when James Aloysius Prash, Jr., you know, claimed, oh, I don't even teach from the Bible. I teach from Luther's Catechism and stuff. That's total slander. Total slander. So I don't have to answer that.

So I knew that this is what they were going to do. I knew that this is what they were going to do, and in the meme I make a point of pointing out that they have to make sure that, you know, that I am considered to be part of the secret agenda of the Antichrist, you know, to get you to take the mark of the beast, and well, James Aloysius Prash, Jr. has delivered on that point as well, and so I've been cast into the bucket of demonic 666 activity and all this kind of stuff, and this is just slander, misrepresentation, and nonsense.

I predicted it in this meme, and they delivered. Now, the only thing I wasn't right about, and I'm kind of bummed about this, I was really, really, really hoping that they were gonna promote me to being the ten-headed beast.

I was so hoping on that, but alas, they haven't. So that part I did get wrong. So, bummer for me, you know, but the strategy and the tactics and what they were gonna engage in, saw it coming a bazillion miles away before I even spoke a single word, before I hit the record button on the first video, I knew this was what they were going to do.

So, you know, so in the downfall meme predicted it, and you're gonna note then, let me read out what I wrote, the downfall meme posted on our YouTube account was my prediction of what Prash would say in order to, quote, defend himself.

He doesn't defend himself, he attacks his critics. There's a difference between defending yourself and attacking your critics. So, defending himself against my critiques of him and his teaching. So the goal then, by making myself his target, was so that I can point out his pattern of behavior in real time, I've already said that, and show that this is part of a repeated predictable pattern by Prash and his cult followers.

This is how they operate, and yes, they are a cult. There's just no doubt about it, because the followers are not, they are, they are completely, you know, not allowed to think. They are told what to think by the ultras, the leaders, and by Prash himself.

And so you'll note that's the case. So, let's take a look at the next slide then. Let's see here. So, let's talk about their tactics. So, first of all, they deflect by demonization. That's what they do.

So these are ad hominem arguments. Ad hominem is an argument against the man. They are designed to discredit those offering valid criticisms of Prash's teaching or behavior. Think of it along the lines of the witch hunt from Monty Python, the Holy Grail.

So, here's their strategy. Find one bit of dirt, or some point of disagreement, or something odd or out of place to pin on the critic, and by doing so claim that nothing that that critic says can be true or taken seriously.

This is a well-established, well-established tactic on their part, and I would point to Graham Baldwin of Catalyst as an example. So, deflect by demonization, Graham Baldwin of Catalyst. Prash dismisses all of the valid criticisms offered by Graham by saying that Graham has, quote, no Christian beliefs, and his spiritual abuse counseling group represents homosexuals, lesbians, Muslims, and Mormons, etc.

Now, I'm going to note something here. You know, I have a primary care physician here in Grand Forks, North Dakota, and my physician services everybody. It doesn't matter if you're a Muslim, a Christian, a Hindu, an atheist, an agnostic.

It doesn't matter if you're yellow, black, or white, or anything like that. My primary care physician will take you on as a patient.

And.

It doesn't matter who you are. And I kind of hope that would be the case because I sure would hate to be limited in my ability to visit a physician based upon my skin color or based upon my religion or things like that.

So, you'll note here, this is not a valid criticism. This is not a valid criticism at all. If there are any kind of a counseling group, and you're going to note this is a counseling group that specializes in spiritual abuse and spiritual bullying and people who have been victimized by people like Prash.

So, what does he do? He demonizes Graham Baldwin of Catalyst. So, here's the thing. In order to help people and counsel them who've been spiritually abused, should we say, no, we can't help you if you've been spiritually abused by Muslims, or spiritually abused by Mormons, or spiritually abused or whatever?

We can't help you. You know, this is nonsense, and I believe Graham Baldwin practices in Europe, and I don't even think he would have the ability to discriminate who he counsels for. So, and here's the thing.

Even if Graham Baldwin were an atheist, that doesn't mean his criticism is not valid. That has nothing to do with the validity of what he says. So, you'll note, this is what they do. They deflect by demonization.

And so, Grant, you can't trust him. He doesn't have any Christian beliefs. He counsels people who are sexually messed up. He counsels people from other religions. Don't listen to him. This is a spiritual abuse tactic.

Okay, so, yeah, this is their way of saying, he's in league with the devil, so therefore, everything he said, all of his criticisms about Jacob, I'm sorry, he's not Jacob, James Aloysius Pratt, Jr., all of his criticisms about James Aloysius Pratt, Jr., they're completely false because he's in league with the devil.

Yeah, that's, you know, deflection and demonization and ad hominem. That's not any valid way of defending yourself against allegations. Now, this next one here. Former employee of Moriel, I've blurred him out.

So, he can't be trusted. Why? Because apparently he owes money to Moriel. Therefore, nothing he says can be trusted. So, by the way, whether or not this fellow owes money to Moriel has zero bearing on the truthfulness of his testimony and the evidence that he has against Prash.

Okay, and I would note this. I've seen the documents, and I've seen no documentation, none whatsoever, that this fellow owes Prash any money at all, and I would.

Defy.

Moriel to produce a loan document because 501c3s, they're not allowed to loan money. Did you know that? I don't know if you knew that, but, you know, so anyway, but you know, this is deflection by demonization.

He owes us money, so it can't be true. Whatever he says, it can't be true. He owes us money. Yeah, okay. Well, I owe my employees money, like, every two weeks. So, because, you know, we're like a week and a half out until the next payday, does that mean that you can't trust me because I owe money to my employees?

And usually that's the way it goes, by the way. Employers owe money to employees, usually not the other way around. How'd you work it the opposite way? I'm curious. Anyway, regardless of whether or not he owes money, doesn't change the truthfulness of what he says.

That has to be based upon documentation. All right, then, getting to me, of course. I've been demonized. Why? Well, because I'm a closet Roman Catholic. I'm an ultra-Lutheran. Oh, you can't trust that Rose, bro.

So, can't listen to anything he says. He's theologically suspect. Well, I'll be happy to defend anything, I believe, from Scripture, and Scripture alone.

Anything.

But you'll note that this tactic, this entire tactic, deflection by demonization, is designed to keep you from thinking for yourself. That's what it's designed to do. This is how cults operate. The cult has determined these people are not worthy therefore you can just ignore what they.

Say.

I would note that using this tactic, this cult, there's nobody they would ever consider worthy of offering any criticism to them whatsoever. Isn't that scary? Which means the only people they're accountable to are themselves.

That's frightening. Now, other tactics. Slander, resorting to outright lies. Oh, and they do. Man, they are like gifted in this department. Not only do they resort to outright lies, they seem to be quite the masters at spinning false narratives, and they are amazing mind readers.

In fact, hang on a second here. Ah, yes, because one of the things I've noticed about them, and I have to do this now, hold on a second, is that James Aloysius Prash can read your mind. He knows the motives.

By which you operate, and he can tell the reason why you've chosen to do something. That's slander too, by the way. Yeah, nobody has the ability to read minds. And so when they say, the reason why Rosebro's doing this is because, you know, yeah.

Yeah, they're claiming to be mind readers, and they're not, and that's a form of slander. So we note that. The other thing they engage in, and I'm sorry that my computer is so slow in responding. I have it doing a lot of things all at once here, but let's get to the next one.

The use of straw men. And straw men is where we're going to spend a little bit of our time today, kind of deconstructing and offering just a few more counter-arguments to some of the things that Prash and the Prashians have said.

So a straw man argument, attempt a deflection of an opponent's argument to a point they weren't defending, you know, and so it's no good when somebody engages in a straw man. So a straw man, this is one of Prash's most used tactics.

It really is. This tactic simply ignores a person's actual argument or criticism and substitutes. Substitutes a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of that position. Case in point, a great example of this, and TBC Kawai put out a video that I would recommend looking at, we'll put a footnote to it down below, where he addresses, you know, Prash's straw man regarding the republicofsouthafrica .com .net .org domains that James Aloysius Prash Jr. owns, okay?

On the video, on the three-hour-long video of the 666 virtue of Chris Rosebro, James Aloysius Prash Jr. claimed, and they accused me of embezzling 1 .5 million dollars from South Africa. Nobody accused you of that.

That's a straw man. What people have accused you of, and what is documented, is that you purchased the URLs, the republicofsouthafrica .com .net .org for the purpose engaging in cyber-squatting so that you can sell them.

This is well documented, and the asking price for the three URLs combined came to 1 .5 million dollars US. And so on the 666 virtue of Chris Rosebro video, three-hour-long bowel movement of James Aloysius Prash, he engages in a straw man.

And so TBC Kauai does a fine job in his rebuttal video showing that's a straw man. No one was accusing him of embezzlement. Nobody. But of trying, attempting to extort, you know, 1 .5 US million dollars out of the Republic of South Africa.

This is just a fact. And so you'll know, one of the things that James Aloysius Prash Jr. does, he constantly, constantly sets up these straw men, arguments that people haven't made, knocks them down. Oh, he's quite the amazing man at knocking down straw men.

I mean, it should almost be a full contact sport with him. I think I would pay money to watch him physically knock down straw men on like a football pitch or something like that. That would be entertainment.

I mean, seriously, I think I'd stop breathing because I would laugh so hard. But pretty much that's what he does. And so you get the idea. So we're walking through, these are the tactics, and we'll demonstrate how all of this works as we work through the rest of the video today.

So what I've done here, by the way, this needs to be addressed here, and I'll address this at this point. The claim right now, and let me see if I can find it right now. The claim right now, and this is hilarious, let me find it though.

Oh, man, where did I put it? Hang on a second here. No, there it is. There it is. Okay, so they've actually responded today, and this is hilarious. So the claim right now, Chris Rosebro's.

Running.

From a live debate.

Oh, no, James Fresh, James Aloysius Fresh wants to debate me. Oh, what am I going to do?

Woohoo!

So this is the narrative now, that I'm running from a debate, but it's just so predictably stupid. Okay, so let me just kind of throw this out here. If James Fresh wants to debate me, there's only one topic I'm willing to debate him on, only one.

And the topic is, does the New Testament teach that Jesus is the Metatron? And here are the rules before I will agree to having this debate. The location for the debate must be Jerusalem, which means we're gonna have to wait until the pandemic's over.

It will be moderated and filmed, and I think each party should film it themselves. I just don't like the idea of us using our equipment to give it to Moriel. Anyway, the event must be free to the public for them to attend.

Now, if you want to sell the video on the Moriel website, you could. I don't care. We'll make it for free at piratechristian .com. So the cost for the venue, though, for the venue itself, where the debate's going to be held, you know, so the venue, paying the moderator if necessary, those costs have to be shared equally between Moriel and Pirate Christian Media, and each ministry then is responsible to pay for their own travel, their own food, and lodging.

And here's an absolutely non-negotiable part of the debate. The leaders of the Hasidic community of Jerusalem will be invited to attend, and they will be given the ability to ask questions directly to each of us as part of the debate format.

This is the only topic I am willing to debate James Prash on, because that's the topic that needs to be discussed. That's the one, because over and again, he keeps engaging in straw men and moving the goalposts and all this nonsense regarding the Metatron.

And so the only topic I'm willing to debate him on is, does the New Testament teach that Jesus is the Metatron? That's the only one. So, you want to debate me, James? Aloysius Jr., you want to debate me?

Don't run, man. I'm willing to debate you, so don't run away. Don't run away from me, man. Those are the terms. So those are the terms. I'll be happy to debate you. That's the topic. Those are the terms.

You agree to that. I'll see you in Jerusalem. So that's the best way I can put it. So all of that being said, what we're going to do now is we're going to walk through some of this nonsense and demonstrate the different tactics in a kind of soundbite fashion.

So as we kind of do our wrap-up and post-mortem on this nonsense of the prash cult. So in this, in the 666 virtue of Chris Roseborough, and notice, this is an example of demonizing me. Apparently, you know, I'm all about the virtues of 666.

Really? You think so? Nuts. This is just nuts. All right, so we're going to note what he engages in here, and we'll highlight it along the way. So let's take a look at this first soundbite.

John MacArthur, the Mark of the Beast, and the Straw Man Charge

Be that as it may, he takes issue with me because of my disagreement with John MacArthur on the Mark of the Beast. I believe anyone who takes it is doomed. They've sold their soul to Satan. Whoever takes it, and that's reiterated three times, whoever, there are no exceptions, even if it would have been theoretically possible for somebody to repent because it's not the unforgivable sin, it's not going to happen.

Now, I'm going to note here, aside from quadrupling down, which is what he's doing here, he's wrong. He's misrepresented me. In my critique videos, I've made it clear that the thing I'm taking issue with, and this is in the prash and burn episode of Fighting for the Faith, the thing I'm taking issue with is not that he disagrees with John MacArthur.

That's kind of silly because even I disagree with John MacArthur. Okay, in case you didn't hear in that episode, I was saying, don't take the Mark of the Beast. That's exactly my position. That's what I said.

I disagree with John MacArthur on this, and I've publicly said it. The issue is, and the thing I'm taking issue with, is that you have stated that everybody in the cessationist reformed Calvinist camp is the super secret weapon of the Antichrist designed to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

That's the issue. I have taken issue with your narrative.

About.

Them being a super secret weapon of the Antichrist. Now, I'm now part of that group, by the way, too, apparently. And so the issue here is, you are free, James Aloysius Prash Jr., you are free to disagree with John MacArthur.

I disagree with John MacArthur. What you're not free to do is to say that he's part of a super secret plan of the Antichrist to deceive the elect. That is slander. So here's the issue. The issue is not that you disagree with John MacArthur.

The issue is that you're demonizing him and anybody who has even a loose affiliation with him, like myself. Loose affiliation because I have a friendship with Phil Johnson, have spoken at conferences with him, and invited him to my own conference a few years back.

So that's just nonsense.

That's.

Absolute gobbledygook. That is an example of a straw man. I don't take issue with you for disagreeing with John MacArthur. I take issue with you continuing to beat this drum and then anathematizing anybody that doesn't agree with your position.

People can disagree with you. That's fine. You'll note that eschatology is a tertiary issue. In Christianity, when it comes to the essentials, there is unity. When it comes to the non-essentials, there should be charity.

And there's no charity on your part when you demonize and accuse people of being a super secret weapon of the devil when they disagree with your eschatology. That's the issue, and you have not yet addressed the issue.

You just beat up and defeated a straw man. Let's take a look at the next one here. I think this is the one regarding Todd Friel.

Well, you just heard Mr. Roseborough say, in effect, he disagrees with John MacArthur. He disagrees with Todd Friel.

I do. I'm an amillennialist. I disagree with their eschatology. And you'll note that I don't go out there and then say, well, if you're not amillennial, if you're not amillennial, then you're part of the super secret cabal to take the mark of the beast.

I give my biblical reasons why I disagree, and I move on. In the words of the famous Disney movie, are you familiar with this one?

Let it go. Let it go. Let it go.

You get the idea. So, James Aloysius, let it go. Man, we know you disagree with John MacArthur. You don't need to demonize everybody that disagrees with you.

But we continue. He disagrees with Phil Johnson. These things, seven years, three and a half years, etc, are all symbolic.

Now,.

When those people he's defending take these things sequential and literal in a sequential and literal manner, he doesn't mention it. When I do the same thing, all of a sudden, I'm somehow cultic.

Well, again, the issue here, as I've stated, the problem is not that you disagree with John MacArthur. The problem is that you say that he's part of a super secret weapon of the Antichrist to deceive the elect.

And so, you'll note here that, yes, John MacArthur is a.

Premillennialist.

Do you think he believes the same thing you do, that he is an agent of the Antichrist to deceive the elect? Is that a requirement of premillennialism? You know, if I decided that I was going to switch from being amillennial to premillennial, after going back through the biblical text, I thought, you know, I've decided I'm going to go premillennial instead.

Would being premillennial require me to believe that John MacArthur is an agent of the Antichrist? I need to know. Because that's never been a requirement of premillennialism in the past. So, yeah, you'll note that that's kind of the...

So, I bring this up just because he keeps like intentionally refusing to address the issue. The issue is not whether or not people agree or disagree with John MacArthur. The issue is the Prash cult has determined that anybody even associated with John MacArthur that, well, they're part of the 666 thing, man.

They're part of the inside secret thing of the enemy to get you to be deceived and all this kind of... This is nonsense. This is nonsense. So, again, these are examples of what we would call straw men.

And so I think we then talk about John MacArthur derangement syndrome.

Yeah, they have... MacArthur states directly that it's not only possible, but then people will do it. Phil Johnson waffles. I don't know. It's hypothetical. Well, John MacArthur was not hypothetical and he did know.

Yeah, John MacArthur gave this as an answer to a Q &A 30 years ago. Why do you keep trotting this thing out?

So, you see a contradiction between what Phil Johnson says and John MacArthur says. Do a rewind and watch it for...

Do either of them think that John MacArthur is an agent of the anti-fascists?

Well, yourself. Now, let's go back to Chris Rose, bro, who's defending this.

What am I defending exactly? I disagree with John MacArthur. I've said it. I said it in the video with Phil Johnson. I've said it in this video. I'm not defending anything that John MacArthur has done.

I just... I've noted. I disagree with what he says regarding the Mark of the Beast. Just totally. So, why do you say I'm defending it? Because I refuse to say he's an agent of the Antichrist? Yeah, saying that he's an agent of the Antichrist is cuckoo banana town.

And that's the problem. The problem is the doomsday narrative you've put together where John MacArthur is... He's like your physical you know, enemy. That he is the physical representation of Satan on earth in your guys' eschatology.

Which is nonsense. It's just absolute nonsense. You disagree with John MacArthur, you give your biblical reasons why, and you move on.

And he says those who oppose what John MacArthur's teaching have MacArthur derangement syndrome.

Wrong. Those who think that John MacArthur is the agent of the Antichrist have John MacArthur derangement syndrome. Okay, listen to what he said, because this is a straw man. I want you to hear it again.

Let's go back to Chris Roseborough, who's defending this. I'm not. And he says those who oppose what John MacArthur's teaching have MacArthur derangement syndrome.

I didn't say that. I said that those who believe that John MacArthur is an agent of the Antichrist have John MacArthur derangement syndrome. You see, you could disagree with John MacArthur until you're blue in the face.

I don't have a problem with that. Until you say he's an agent of the Antichrist and, you know, all this kind of nonsense that you've concocted. Yeah, that's the problem. The reason why you are attacking him is because of your false narrative about him that he's an agent of the Antichrist.

The reason why you're attacking me is because now I've been snowballed into this, but I volunteered for the job, so I don't get to complain.

I.

Willingly, I willingly decided it's time for me to be to take a more prominent role in Prashkitology. I volunteered for this. How? By offering a criticism. So again, this is an example of complete straw man nonsense.

Doreen Virtue, the Vision of Jesus, and Delusional Religiosity

Now we're going to get on to the topic of, I think, Doreen Virtue. Hang on a second here. I want to make sure that I'm at the right place here. So in order to get to the right place, I've got to back that video up just a smudge.

It's about right here. So let's talk about Doreen Virtue, shall we?

Another factor in the equation. Doreen Virtue is the woman who is famous, some say infamous, for her so-called three-dimensional apparition of Christ, which we'll come to shortly.

Okay.

That is promoted, of course, by among others, Phil Johnson.

So Phil Johnson promotes Doreen Virtue's three-dimensional vision of Jesus. I would like to know what vehicle did you use to cross that chasm? Because Evel Knievel couldn't even jump that gap. I mean, even in his rocket jet car, man, he couldn't do it.

He couldn't do it. So Phil Johnson promotes Doreen Virtue's three-dimensional Jesus vision.

Really?

And certainly Chris Rosebro and, unfortunately, Justin Peters.

Okay, so myself, Phil Johnson, Justin Peters,.

All promote.

Doreen Virtue's three-dimensional vision of Jesus. How do you figure? Now, I'm gonna go to another portion of the video here to kind of make the point, you know, yet again, because I think it's worth noting here.

This is lunacy. This is lunacy and slander, so is the best way I can put it.

Do the same things.

There's Doreen Virtue's curly-haired Jesus without the stigmata. Do I promote this?

No.

By the way, I've publicly stated I don't think this was from Jesus. I've said it. In fact, when I had Doreen on Fighting for the Faith and she talked about this, I told the story of the vision I had and told her it was not from God.

It was from the devil. Okay, so how do I know? How do I know whether this vision of Jesus from Doreen is from God or not? You want to know the answer? The answer to the question is I know it's not a vision from God because it claims to be a vision from God.

The thing is false on its face. Okay, so I think of it this way. Do a little bit of homework, okay? The 70 weeks have already been fulfilled. The 70 weeks of the book of Daniel, they've already been fulfilled.

As part of the promises of the 70 weeks in Daniel chapter 9 is the sealing of prophecy and vision. So at this point, if anybody comes to me saying, I've had a vision of Jesus, I know for a fact that the vision that they had isn't from Jesus.

It's not from God. So, and by the way, I've even told Doreen privately that that wasn't from God, and here's the best part. She's publicly stated that. Okay, so on Doreen Virtue's Instagram, all right, on her Instagram from July 2nd, Doreen Virtue writes,.

Perhaps when I saw that vision, the Holy Spirit was simultaneously helping me understand the biblical and orthodox truth that Jesus is the eternal Son of God. So here in this, she talks about her vision of Jesus, which isn't Jesus.

Okay, and here's what she says. Before I was saved, I had a vision that I was certain was Jesus. She was confident that it was. Because it pointed me to read the Bible and to leave the new age, during the vision, I also came to know that Jesus is the Son of God who died for our sins and that the Bible is true.

At first, as a new Christian, I loudly broadcasted that I had absolutely seen Jesus. But the more that I studied the Bible and talked with mature Christians, I had doubts about who or what I had seen that day.

So recently, when a disparaging video about me was released, I was so blessed to receive counsel and support from Justin Peters' ministry, Chris Rosebro, Warren and Joy Smith, David Guzik, Don Venoit, Mike Moore, and the list goes on and on and on.