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This is Chris Arnzen your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Friday on this third day of

June 2022 and I'm thrilled to have back on the program a

returning guest Alexander Wright who is founder and president of vessels for Christ.

We are going to be addressing fulfilling the Great Commission by equipping pastors leaders and laymen

with the proper tools to instruct sound theology abroad.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio.

Alex, right?

Thanks

Chris, I'm sure we will and tell our listeners about

vessels for Christ.

So

vessels

for Christ is a 501c to

Myanmar.

Went to India.

You

know

with well.

It's amazing that in the 21st century that there are still unreached people groups who have

not yet Heard the gospel that just boggles my mind.

Yeah, it's it's wow that's actually reading earlier story about the.

Do you remember the story about him.

No he was going to the.

And he actually got killed

people he didn't even make it.

We made it on the shore to see someone with the book.

Well, if anybody wants more information about the ministry vessels for Christ go to

vessels for Christ org vessels for Christ org and

I intend to repeat this information later on in the program as well.

Well, although you have already given your salvation testimony, which is a tradition

We have on this program for first -time guests you you're not a first -time guest, but the only time you gave your

Testimony was in an abbreviated interview that we had on site At the g3

conference.

So now that we're conducting a longer interview I'm going to give you another opportunity to Give a

summary of your salvation testimony on iron sharpens iron radio.

That would include the kind of religious atmosphere if any you were raised in and the kinds of providential

Circumstances our sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you to himself and saved you.

So I'd love to hear that story again.

Yeah, sure sounds good so

I was

raised

keeping

Christ's

command

because

of that instead

of staying

deeper

and deeper

to where and.

From that point, you know trying to

chase I'll feel good

and from

the age of 18 to

the age of 20 because I was In trouble with a lot

of time dealing with different,

you know, getting robbed getting seen at

the beginning

of 20 completely addicted.

I just was getting sick of it and I really wanted to quit well at this a

coincidentally.

Prayed for my whole life with it with the Hindu with the Hindu guy and he became a Christian.

And he started reaching out to me.

You know trying to take me to like a Christian movie things like

that and and I had grown up, you know.

Like I said, I grew up now the gospel not a very

clear presentation of the gospel but definitely knew that Jesus had died rose from the died for our sins

arose from the grave, but Nothing, you know, I was just

my friend started reaching out to me and we started talking and basically it got to a point where

two of the guys that was getting drugs from one Tried to commit suicide and he went to the

hospital so I can't get drugs from him another guy went to rehab.

So, let me tell you Chris at this point.

I burned a lot of bridges in my life.

So these two two guys I was

getting drugs from you know, I couldn't get the

drugs from them anymore.

So I decided to quit cold turkey when

your body doesn't have the drugs.

It means you start to get flu -like symptoms suicidal things like that and I went

to The emergency room you say that

they're not going to give you opiate.

So the doctor wouldn't give me any painkillers.

You know trying to offset the withdrawals at this point.

So I went home and completely and I mean I had serious serious

withdrawals for about two or three days.

Suicidal

after about you know,

somewhere between seven and

ten day.

I know Jesus died.

It's not

just for the president's

equal

36 26, you know, he'll take out the heart of stone and he'll give you a heart of flesh.

Well, he did that to me and after I said amen and I woke up it was like I

woke up out of holiness.

I was living in this love for Christ and I walked in it.

Well, hallelujah, and tell us about how you came to discover and

Fall in love with and embrace the doctrines of sovereign grace Also known as reform theology and

Calvinism.

Yes, so and

you know, I was

at the prayer houses and all that and just seeing a lot of crazy stuff and so that

was about a period of like one to two years and then.

Something happened to me where I actually a quote -unquote prophet

false prophet now.

Always was but I followed him down to Georgia and actually went under his ministry as the

youth pastor.

And I was seeing all sorts of things, you know fake miracles.

Just you know, he was 20 million congregation come to find out later.

He was you know having issues with women in the church, you know relations with women in the church.

You can't share the identity of this person.

Could you repeat the name of that?

I'm sorry the name of that false teacher Michael.

Oh bang.

Oh be a NG.

I believe so.

Okay, even that sounds like it's false.

Yeah, yeah, well he was a he was a Nigerian he grew up in Ghana, but he was Nigerian born and.

Yeah, he I believe he stood I think

his so that's a good thing praise the

Lord for that.

But So while I was in we had

a reply and she said when she

brought me outside.

And she said I've never met this lady in my life and she said look.

Yeah, you know you're from shit and she said you need to go home you were never

supposed to put the hundred dollar bill in my hand and she said the Lord wanted you to

have this and go home and To be here.

It's just

we're standing and that moment, you

know.

Think about whatever you want record use that woman to

help get in this and

NAR is the new

epistolic

Reformation.

Yes new epistolic Reformation and this guy was saying

reach the Bible to Obama at the White House.

He was saying you are going to be the next Billy Graham.

You are have the spirit of you

know.

So he's saying this to me and I mean so anyway so that your pride gets built up, you know.

Because it's all flesh.

It's like you're going to be this great person and So after coming out of there, my pride was crushed.

I fell into a deep depression for about four or five months and My I

actually fasted and prayed at the end of that period of time and the Lord lifts me out of that.

So to answer your previous question, how do I discover the doctrine to grace?

So after that Lord the Lord leads me out of that I start discovering guys like Paul

Washer Tim Conway RC Sproul John MacArthur Steve

Lawson.

Start listening to these

guys and Calvinism to lift these terms and I start

to I just is exactly what the scriptures

teach.

James White was a

big influence listening to him great about God Christ dying for

his chosen people the elect that really helped.

Get over that, you know three or four months period that was the last piece of the tulip puzzle.

So to say but that was that was how I discovered.

Oh, praise God.

And if anybody listening wants to ask a question of your own of Alex our email address is Chris

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Well our Subject matter today is focusing on

Fulfilling the Great Commission by equipping pastors leaders and laymen with the proper tools

to instruct sound theology abroad.

What exactly and specifically do you mean by that.

This as far as proper tools, especially?

Bastille

Christianity with his

teachings are very big, you

know,

you've had Justin Peters on the show before and you know, he Preaches there.

He talks against these guys.

These guys are big in that area.

So a lot of that stuff is getting mixed up and and the devil is using that big time to

deceive many and then what happens is India is such a.

The illiteracy rate, you know, many

of them aren't reading so they're just learning from them.

So it's just this trickle -down of what we try to do

is we provide this town with resources so he

can Create copies of Martin Luther's 95 pieces

manic theology Books on John Owen

and I think what else

Steve Lawson books things like this.

So we you know

give these out at

these laymen pastors in the area.

So that's partly what.

Okay.

Well.

There is a Lot of ways when where people

who are trying to convey the doctrine doctrines of

sovereign grace to any given people No matter where they are in the world

there is obviously commentaries.

There are Books on theology by a vast

assortment of Christians from the past and present.

The miracle of the Internet which has both Been used mightily by God and

mightily by Satan as well, unfortunately.

Tell us you you're in an area somewhere in the world and you are

Basically trying to disciple probably to start with leaders pastors

and so on.

How do you go about?

Instructing them how to properly properly instruct themselves.

Well, so what I mean.

So because of coke is going to be doing some trips

maybe to the UK as well.

But while I have not been there and this is what I would be doing on the ground.

I work with to

Come.

He has a good

understanding to help

him how he can Effectively teach these guys.

Like I'll give you an example he will Go out to this.

He'll hold a conference of about a hundred people and a few guys will be Bailey.

Yeah, we will

take them and they will go back to their churches and teach

them and then it you know.

Hopefully it will be a trickle -down event in a positive manner on

theology.

And do you have any

anecdotal?

Experiences that you can share with us on Witnessing people

from foreign lands Seeing perhaps for the first time

these doctrines and embracing.

In fact, why don't you think about it while we go to our first break.

Because I don't want to interrupt you.

Mid -sentence.

Okay.

All right.

If anybody wants to join us on the air with a question of your own for Alex our email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

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And before we go to any of the listener questions that have already come in Please Alex

if you could Pick up where we left off.

I asked you about any anecdotal Experiences of people that you've worked with discovering the doctrines of

grace.

Sure.

Yeah before before I go

to the internet and now you

would think that.

And you have to pay.

Well, I pay a lot for my internet.

So maybe I'm doing something wrong.

You don't even have access.

I mean I think with this Elon Musk,

but yeah,

I was

thinking so

he's holding a conference.

It's probably about seven to maybe seventy to a hundred people there.

We were able to

the money in

the monetary.

Take the bus.

But one

actually let

her go on for a

little bit.

You want to be respectful and nice at the time?

And boy, don't I hate that when I'm in the audience for something like that?

He Rebukes area and

he's close to 12.

But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over man, but to remain quiet and then he goes

on about this and Her and the other lady got upset and they walked out of the conference.

So.

Yeah reminds me of when I was at a James White Conference that I actually

Organized at a church.

That was not my own.

I have to make that clear.

And there and during a time of testimony that the pastor of that church

Apparently had every Sunday a woman stood up and spoke for about a

half -hour chewing into dr. White's time and Her testimony was that

her son couldn't afford to go to college so he would sneak into classes and

take courses at a local college and take notes and all this and was not

paying for this.

And when she was going through a crisis of Guilt over this

she said God told her it was okay.

So that that was the half hour of wasted time and also heresy that intruded into dr

White's time during this conference.

I was and I was amazed that the pastor said nothing to contradict or Reprimand or

chastise the woman for her belief that basically God was telling her to steal.

But anyway I'm sorry.

I interrupted you.

Were you finished with that?

No, no, no, no, I was I was just listening to you.

Yeah.

No, it's a make it up.

They have all can just

manipulate so

many of

these people and twist.

Okay.

Well, we have a number of questions already from listeners.

We have a first -time listener from San Jose.

Costa Rica.

Eric and Eric says if everything is already predestined Then

what role does prayer play in the lives of Christians?

According to Reformed theology that Jesus died for everyone or just the elect.

I'm just generally confused on how God's absolute sovereignty ties in with works and

with man's free will before we have Alex begin to answer those

questions and we'll take them one at a time.

We do have on iron sharpens iron radio a multitude of archived interviews that

each one being based solely on these issues.

So if you go to iron sharpens iron radio .com and you click on

Podcast past shows and you type in the search engine

things like limited atonement and prayer and

Calvinism and things like that.

You will find a multitude of interviews that deal with these issues but these

are very commonly asked questions by those who are not reformed.

As you likely know Alex and it's interesting that a

non -reformed person would ask About prayer because many

people would think that if God's already predestined everything why are we praying.

And the the better question is.

Especially when it comes to praying for somebody's salvation if God's already done everything that he can do.

What do you.

What is your prayer to God going to do to affect that person's salvation.

We're the ones who believe as Calvinists that that God not only commands us to pray.

But he uses our prayers.

He uses means to save people.

He uses prayer.

He uses evangelism.

He uses preaching and teaching.

He uses books and I could go on and on as To the means that

God uses to bring people to salvation and of course the ordinances of the church as well.

But if you want to answer that first question yourself, what role does prayer play in the lives of

Christians according to reform theology?

Yeah.

Kind of a two -parter there.

But yeah, I

mean if you go to the

pastoral, he

goes to the

Lord.

You know the best thing to be doing to learn is Prayer, you know and

that and that is also the hardest thing to do.

And reading the Bible can be easy.

You know, we can get in a good pattern.

To do anything against us doesn't what God calls us

to do.

The disciples were taught how to you know.

I think of course the look.

I'll tie this into the next part.

The Lord is you

know, we can't come together and God can

hear our you know, I I mean

I can think of so many.

You know

had some 10 months.

It was a miracle.

She even got out of the hospital to see her and talk with her.

I mean that that's how.

Oh, it's very good

friend of mine and and

actually a

financial supporter of this program.

Yeah, yes I spent some time with him and and they had Tim Conway there and Jeff Thomas at the conference and

Jeff Thomas.

I'll be on a YouTube channel about the mysteries are God the mysteries of God, you know.

The secret things are the Lord some of these things, you know.

We can only so much with our connect stuff stuff

together.

But you know some of this is you know.

We just trust in how he's worked out things and

we might not even know when we get to heaven maybe we'll have more information, but we may never know and we have to be okay with that.

And his second question is according to.

Reform theology.

Did Jesus die for everyone or just the elect?

Before I allow Alex to answer We believe that Christ did not

only try to save sinners.

We did not.

We do not believe that He was on a mission to make The lost

savable.

We believe that he saved sinners.

He didn't try.

In fact, God doesn't try to do anything.

Jesus saved sinners on Calvary and He

redeemed them.

He finished his work of redemption completely and it was perfect

100 and.

Therefore Since we do not believe as Reformed Christians that every

single person will be in heaven after they die We do believe that hell will be

inhabited by a countless Number of people.

Tragically.

Obviously then that would force us to conclude that Jesus did not die for

everyone.

He died to rescue his elect from their sin and to glorify his

father in heaven.

And he allowed others to remain in their sin, which they

voluntarily participate in daily.

So that's my answer but if you want to add to that Alex.

I'll add a little bit.

I you remember who wants to be a millionaire.

I wish I could call it, you know.

You know, what is it

for God's love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him.

She'll not perish but have eternal life which to me clearly teaches that yes, Jesus Christ died for those who will

believe.

I mean, that's right in the text.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say.

I mean that is a particular people group that he died for because.

You know if he died for all then he failed and he's not

he didn't fail.

He redeemed but he redeemed his elect.

I mean, that's what he did on the cross.

Yeah, and if you read.

Polls.

Admonition to husbands.

Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church

And gave himself up For her.

Well, let me read the exactly from the text.

This is Ephesians 5 25 husbands love your wives Just as Christ also loved the church

and gave himself for her.

I actually Did it by memory exactly the way it was written?

So Paul Being inspired by the Holy Spirit or

having God breathing out his words through Paul inerrantly.

Paul says Husbands love your wives Just as Christ also loved the

church and gave himself up for her.

He did not say husbands love your wives and every other woman on the planet Just as Christ also loved the

church and everybody else on the planet and Gave himself up for her and

everybody on the planet.

He didn't say that.

It renders Paul's Command to husbands

Nonsensical and even a moot point.

We're supposed to love wives our our wives in a

particular and unique and Exclusive way.

So this text would be Really the opposite of what it meant if

if Christ died for every single person so that that text is not frequently used by

Calvinists to prove the point of limited atonement or definite atonement or particular redemption, but I

think it is a perfect text to use to bolster other texts.

Yeah, and.

Let's see.

I want to make sure that Eric in San Jose Costa Rica didn't

ask anything else here.

Oh I'm confused.

And how God's absolute sovereignty ties in with works and man's free will.

Well men freely choose to sin.

Men freely choose to follow what their nature dictates.

The man will freely choose and pursue everything that he

wants to.

The issue is What does he want to pursue?

What does he freely?

Want to pursue and do and believe?

Before his regeneration he wants to merely please himself.

And it requires a miracle of God to

for man to freely Oh believe in him in a saving and

trusting way.

He cannot do so.

As Romans 8 a clearly dictates a man in the flesh cannot

please God.

And if offering God a safe that faves that Saves him a faith that saves him was

a bit of a tongue twister Is pleasing to God?

Then obviously In the flesh he cannot do that.

So In Ezekiel, we learn of the fact that there must be a heart transplant that

God performs on us in order for us to believe in him in a saving way and

follow him.

So God's sovereignty is in that he rescues

men from their own Depraved will and makes us willing to

love follow and serve him.

But if you want to add to that as well Alex.

All.

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Founder and president of vessels for Christ we have Ted

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Who says there is a well -known? Ghanaian born plastic

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Whose practice is based in Los Angeles?

This isn't the same man your guest mentioned earlier.

Is it?

No, no, that's not.

Okay.

Wow.

I was almost certain that you would say yes.

Well.

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of which you speak is a false teacher.

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Thanks for Ted and maybe you want to get back to me to let me know whether or not you are familiar with this

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interview on this program.

We have Cindy in Findlay, Ohio.

Who says hello Chris and Alex?

Alex thank you for being a guest on Chris's show today, even though I have heard this subject addressed.

I would like to get your views on the topic of When witnessing to a lost

sinner Should you tell them that God loves him or her?

I typically do not express that to them and have heard opposing views.

Thank you for your thoughts in the service to Christ.

Witnessing the

people, you

know, so.

You know the law being written

on you.

The only way forgiven is believing on the Lord

Jesus Christ that he died or that he lived.

And then I.

Yeah, I agree.

And Strangers or people that you know are

Unregenerate who you may know personally.

And they reject Christ.

They are not demonstrating any fruits of regeneration in their life.

I would not say God loves you.

And maybe just to clarify.

When you said God hates sinners, that is true, but he does love

Sinners who are among his elect and we don't know who his elect are

Until they give evidence that they are of the elect by repenting and believing upon him.

Yeah, yeah, I was I was thinking

right.

So, thank you very much Cindy for that question.

Well, give us some more of the reasons Why our listeners should

want to get involved in?

Vessels for Christ how they can get involved the different areas and so on.

Well by

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So that about some and obviously since you are

reformed the very nature of what you do.

Militates against the slander and false claims of anti

-calvinists that being reformed is

deadly to missions.

In fact some of the greatest missionaries in history have been thoroughly reformed I would

actually say that the greatest missionaries of history and.

So this in no way your form faith is obviously.

Not in contradiction to what you are passionately involved in yourself as far as the mission field right.

Quite the opposite.

We are called to go to the nation.

I mean we are not.

Yeah, was it David Brainerd before he was about to go.

Have you heard that story Chris?

You might be thinking of Hudson Taylor.

David Brainerd was a was a missionary to the Native Americans here in the North American continent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hudson Taylor went to China.

Okay, maybe I'm wrong about what you're gonna talk about I said.

When you were saying sent off I was thinking maybe.

Go ahead finish your story.

Yeah.

Before

he

went overseas.

Well, why go if God's gonna say yeah, that's Hudson Taylor.

Yeah, okay.

Okay.

I haven't I you know, it's funny.

I'm halfway through Hudson Taylor spiritual.

That's a moment.

But yeah, Hudson Taylor.

Yeah, and why why even go it God will save them if he's the wax I'll save them somehow.

Well, you know quite the opposite.

You've got to go.

This is what Christ commands us to do to share the gospel.

I mean, we're not hyper Calvinist here.

We're just Calvinist, you know, we believe in the doctrines of grace, you know.

So I've told them, you know to look in his principles, but we're not hyper Calvinist.

We're not sitting here waiting for God to do whatever.

You know, we are called to have you know, God works on our hearts and commands us

to share the gospel.

Amen and That's what historically Calvinists have always

believed even John Calvin himself and as you've mentioned there are

aberrant group known as hyper Calvinists that Do not fit in

the category of faithful missionaries that we were just addressing.

We have a listener Another listener who wants to ask

about the reformed faith.

Let's see we have RJ in White Plains, New York

and RJ says Chris Arnson was saying earlier

that Reformed people do not evangelize by telling God they love

that.

He loves them.

I have heard reformed people Who disagree with other in the same camp of reformed theology?

Who believe that God does indeed law love all people and I believe the late

Peter Jeffrey?

Was one of them.

Can you explain?

Well, I happen to know The late Peter Jeffrey.

I knew him personally.

In fact, he was with my own mother in 1995 at her

deathbed Evangelizing her and he reassured me when emerging from that room after a half

-hour That he had absolute complete

confidence that my mother was regenerate due to her responses and

I had known that prior to Peters entering into my

mother's sick room near her deathbed but I

Certainly loved and considered it a gift from God that Peter gave me extra

Evidence and assurance, but I believe I know what the listener is talking about.

Peter did believe that God loved all of humanity, but in different

ways and to my knowledge I don't recall he would evangelize using that phrase

to strangers or to open rebels against God.

That Jesus loves you even though he believed That God loves all of humanity because

he believed that there was a unique Love that God only had for his elect.

That's the love of a father and that's the love of a spouse.

That is the kind of of love that saves or that offers the grace

that saves.

But any comments of your own on that?

Yeah, I mean, no, I appreciate the

listeners question and

there is

a danger.

These I've been

volunteering.

God loves you God look, but there's no gospel press anything about

Christ anything about you know.

It's just God loves you and I think that's the danger we can

experience.

With that statement today.

Yeah, you can.

I've even heard some people who?

Retaliate with mockery when being evangelized and.

And there is actually logic in their

Blaspheme in their blasphemous retorts.

They will say well if God loves me, I must have nothing to worry about.

Thanks, haha.

And walk away.

If you tell people that God loves them, especially when you.

I've heard people go on and on about it with a definition of love.

That God's love will never change.

God's love is eternal.

God's love is forever and on and on.

Well if that is the case that the kind of response that that Blasphemer gave to the

evangelist.

I just mentioned is a very logical response.

I mean because why if God if Jesus Christ died for me and

He loves me then why would I ever go to hell?

So and now having said all that God in his sovereignty and mercy

and grace Has saved a multitude of people even though they've heard that message

wrongly delivered clumsily delivered.

With a mixture of truth and falsehood.

God still has used the evangelism and the preaching and teaching of non -reformed people for centuries.

To bring the lost unto him and that's one of the wonderful things about God, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

No.

Exhibitators of God and his beloved children and walk in love just as Christ Also loved you and gave

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fragrant. Amen.

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Welcome back.

If you just tuned us in our guest has been for the entire program Alexander Wright who is founder and president of

Vessels for Christ.

If you have a question for Alex please send it to Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and send it in quickly because we are rapidly running out of time.

Well, I want to make sure before we run out of time Alex that everything that you want etched in the

hearts and minds today about what you do and

why what you do is important and Why what you do is needed by the body of Christ,

please share with us as much of that information as you possibly can.

Uninterrupted before we take any more listener questions.

Yeah, I mean first

and foremost

why what I do is,

you

know, we are

the people some

of the

Christ they might have heard the name or

did never heard the name and also

theology correct and to be able

to teach that and

ultimately, I.

Do we glorify and honor?

You know.

We were wicked heathens that were God sent

has come into this world God incarnate it got in the flesh eyes

against we may Be

saved

goosebumps just thinking about it at time.

And so we want to continue to share that message.

It's all it's

all we have a very faithful listener of this

program.

Who sent in a question?

Grady from Asheboro, North Carolina.

Greetings brothers.

How do you choose the churches and people to whom you minister and.

Do you give them funds or just materials that they need?

Um.

Some people who seem to be you could talk to Paul

Washer.

You know anyone who's doing missions over the years,

but honestly get men that fear God

that are humble that are teachable.

They just want to see the gospel go out so we've tried to

see if there's we also see if we're

kids they're conforming to the Word of God and if they're obedient to It and and their character is

we to the second part.

Yes, we provide Materials and resources such as books Bibles

Commentaries like you've mentioned earlier things of that nature.

And then we also provide funds directly to on a

monthly basis and every other month basis.

Just really depending on what they need and how much they need as some of them

might be able to do other things and.

We have.

Let's see here.

We have BB in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania who wants to know.

What is the greatest opposition that you face?

When you are doing your ministry abroad is it from those that openly reject?

Christianity.

Or those that are from a different theological position than you from within

Christianity.

Or perhaps even cults and other religions that masquerade as Christianity.

Well, I think to tackle that question number one our fight is against flesh and blood.

It's against Ritualities and principalities and heavenly places.

So it is a demonic Fight.

We are in a demonic battle.

I mean we are fighting against the Prince of Darkness.

Against the demons things like that.

So that is going to

be people are used, you know to attack us.

I mean you can watch abortion clinic videos or You know people

in unreached

areas we get

Some people that are not adhering to the Bible

that can be Opposition.

I would compare it maybe to like Roman Catholic

witnessing or have you know that you think they're of Christ.

But yet they're kind of prevent so we get some of that and then we also

just people who are you know.

The fanatic Hindus just last year, you know was evangelizing.

He was chased by a mob of fanatic Hindus and they threw a pole at him and hit him in the back.

And so you do get those as well.

So I would say it's not predominantly one or the other it's both.

Yeah, you just brought up something that a lot of people in America are totally

ignorant of the fact that Christians are Persecuted and even martyred

on occasion overseas by militant Hindus.

People are usually only thinking of Muslims that are doing this.

They look at a Hindu as somebody that is nothing, but a peaceful person that's typically

a vegetarian who sits and contemplates and meditates and prays.

And they think of the stereotype of Gandhi, which is

actually a false stereotype.

Gandhi was a true racist.

People don't know that Gandhi.

They look at him as a champion of equal rights and A champion against

racism.

Well, he was but only for the Indian people.

He believed that the Indian people should be treated equally with the white British but one of

the things that he hated was that the Indian people were being treated like black people who he

despised.

I Strongly urge everyone listening if you're interested in that topic

to get a hold of the book maybe out of print by now I don't know behind the mask of

divinity by GB Singh SINGH who

is actually a Sikh who was in the United States military a Colonel I believe who wrote that book,

but that is Obviously not the main theme of our discussion.

Now I want to make sure before we go off the air That you leave our audience with what you most

want etched in their hearts and minds because we are racked rapidly running out of time.

Now well.

Whatever, you know, let's not forget them because that's

the one thing

as we just get

I just I get complacent

you know, there are eat and struggling to survive and and.

Lots of persecution coming against them in different places.

Well, thank you.

I want to repeat.

My guests email address is vessels for Christ org.

Vessels for Christ org and I want you to

Examine and explore that website and pray about how you can help this

valuable ministry.

To fulfill the Great Commission, I also want to again urge

anyone listening who is a man in ministry

leadership.

Whether you're a pastor an elder, by the way, I think that's the same office a deacon

leader of a parachurch organization.

No matter what leadership position you hold as a man.

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I urge you to do everything that you can to attend the next iron sharpens iron radio pastors luncheon.

Thursday September 22nd 11 a .m. To 2 p .m. In Loisville, Pennsylvania, which is in

Perry County, Pennsylvania.

It's going to be featuring as you've been hearing on the show My dear friend going back to

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R. White of Alpha and Omega ministries.

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That I give to every man who attends the iron sharpens iron radio luncheons this

whole concept this idea was the brainchild of my precious late wife in the

1990s.

Who said to me one Christmas season?

Why don't we next year instead of spending money on each other for Christmas gifts?

Why don't we?

Use that money and treat your pastor friends to a lunch a special

luncheon since you have so many pastor friends being in the radio industry and we

could not only treat them to lunch, but you can get your your contacts in the

publishing industry to donate books and we can have a guest speaker come in and I thought that was an excellent

idea and I took her up on it and we've been doing it ever since and Even after my wife went home

to eternity with Jesus Christ.

I continue to do the to to arrange the luncheons in her memory and

in tribute and honor to her.

And of course first of all first and foremost Intribute an honor to Jesus Christ the king and king and

king of kings and Lord of lords.

So if you do want to attend this luncheon, please send me an email to Chris Arnsett at gmail .com.

Chris Arnsett at gmail .com.

Tell your friends family and loved ones about the luncheon.

Who happened to be men in?

Ministry leadership that is.

Tell all the pastors that you know.

The pastors with whom you share fellowship.

The pastors that you know from your own denomination brotherhood association.

We would really love to see as many of you as possible at this lunch.

And of course don't forget about the week prior to that.

The g3 conference the g3 regional conference featuring dr. James R. White dr. Stephen Lawson

Josh Bice and the hosts the co -hosts of the just thinking podcast

Darrell Bernard Harrison and Virgil Walker.

They will be speaking at the g3 regional conference in Washington DC and That will be

the week prior to my pastors luncheon.

I am going to be manning an exhibitors booth there and I hope that as many of you as possible

will greet me at my exhibitors booth and I am sure that

you will be blessed as I have every single time I have been at the g3 conference.

This is just thinking about the Bible as the theme.

September 15th through the 17th in Washington DC.

Go to g3 men org, that's g3 Min abbreviation for ministries

G3 men org and then click on events at the top of the page.

Well, I hope to see you at both of those events.

I hope that you all have a very safe blessed happy and healthy and Christ honoring

weekend and Lord's Day and I hope that you all will always remember for the rest of your lives that

Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior Than you are a sinner.

I hope you tune in Monday as a new friend of mine will be the guest on iron -sharpens -iron

radio a dear brother David Monreal pastor of the Carlisle Alliance

Church who will be discussing his journey into the reform faith and being a

theological minority in the Christian and missionary alliance denomination, so I hope you tune in

then God bless you.

We'll hear from you Monday God willing.