End of the Year Dividing Line: General Cultural Topics, then TRBs.

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Had to make brief mention of some of the big stuff happening in our day at the top of the program. Then did a quick summary of the Crusades in light of their being used by some CNs as some kind of positive thing, but then moved on into dealing with the TRBs, the Truly Reformed Baptists, and their willingness to snipe at those on the front lines from the comfort of their seminary library windows, so to speak. Went for almost 90 despite my respiratory woes (improving, but slowly).

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Well, greetings welcome. I Just now looked over and rich says lost the intro again,
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I Don't know what any of that means. I was sitting there going shouldn't we be hearing music by now, and I heard music before but He's not here.
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So somehow I'm I'm going to assume that that also means we probably won't have any outro either.
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So it's just We're professionals here, I just want you to understand I actually I was sitting here looking at a video on Twitter there were two things
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We have theological things to talk about today, but it's not that I'm Not aware of what's happening in the world the amazing things there is a massive
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Record -breaking caravan just an invasion force Moving toward the border and they will be of course let in and This is the amazing part the regime in the
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United States of America right now for those of you outside the United States, I I I'd imagine most of you in Europe Probably do understand this because you're experiencing similar things
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But for people elsewhere you need to understand the regime we don't call it administration administration
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Administers law that's why from one administration the next there's consistency at least there's supposed to be in our form of government here
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This is a regime it's a lawless regime and It doesn't care about the Constitution wants the
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Constitution gone and is working Diligently day and night to get rid of the
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Constitution despite the fact that their hands up They probably put their hands on a stack of you know Homosexual books or something like that Which is what we literally have people in United States doing that right instead of putting the hand of the
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Bible Swearing to to do their their duty. We now have people using gay porn
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That's how that's how bad things are in the United States. Oh first and for school board members that's the that's the winning part
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I What do you say what do you say to that level of evil that level of depravity that level of disgusting perversity
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But our regime hates Constitution trying to get rid of it and obviously, it's it's constitutional requirement for the president and those in charge to protect the borders and They won't they've opened the borders up.
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We've been invaded by millions of military age young men from all over the world and It's all purposeful it's all intentional and the thing you need to understand is the regime hates
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American citizens But loves these folks and so they will
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Provide them with flights free flights. You can now fly in the United States and Have as valid Identification your arrest warrant your bench warrant appearance for being an illegal alien
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That's now good enough. You're considered safe to fly. I I What can you even say what can you say it's just a mockery any longer and no nation can survive it
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So I'm just watching this right now and meanwhile at the same time
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In a couple days California the the brilliant No, the the communist
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Traitors In the legislature of the state of California have passed a law that places like Target and Walmart The Sears still exist.
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I don't know That in the toy section You want it you want to know how bad the nanny state is that in the toy section?
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You can't have a boy's aisle or a girl's aisle anymore So, you know when
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I had kids Or even more recently when I would take the grandkids to to a store
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To get them something you could Take the girls to one aisle and there's gonna be the
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Barbies and you know All the rest that kind of stuff and then you know You take the the granddaughters to that one and the grandsons you go over to the
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GI Joe section in another aisle and That's that's not legal anymore in in California, they all have to be mixed together
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Because of equity and diversity and inclusion and and all this other utter depravity and insanity
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That is now considered the the good in in the nation So it's not that I don't know these things are happening and I and I do feel
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I I do feel that Strain There there's a part of me that goes
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Why are we talking about anything other than the fact that our Society is on the brink of collapse this is going to bring chaos in our within our own nation and That will bring chaos around the world, which will then result in a cry for Minimal not not for freedom not for Liberty But just enough food to get by and that will result in The tyranny that the
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World Economic Forum and all these other organizations have been working toward for decades now
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Unless there is just a massive major intervention from on high because that's the only thing that can stop this from happening and So you look at that and you go
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So why talk about? Almost anything else and I have to keep reminding myself
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Let's say That's what happens. Everybody's you're supposed to be a post -mortem optimistic all time
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You don't understand post -millennialism, but vast majority of people who criticize it don't I get it. I understand. I feel sorry for you
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I tried to explain it to you We may be going into a real dark period of time
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But these What what what I have to keep in mind is
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Romans 1 remains true It is one of the greatest examples of Inspiration in all the
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Bible and what it means is that Sinners may get together and cooperate together to create evil systems
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But They can't keep those evil systems together for one obvious reasons they live in God's world and They may cooperate together for a while, but they'll turn on each other eventually and it all come tumbling down and When it does
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God's people need to be there Having experienced persecution and suffering along with everybody else
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To shine the light point the way You know, that's why when some people say yeah
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We see it's coming. So you gotta get out of the cities. I'm like Where where does the church need to be everywhere but including the cities and And and you know,
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I know that food will be used as a means to try to get people to compromise and we all could be on a real crash diet in the not -too -distant future the way the
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The progressives the communists are attacking farming and and things like that And it really seems like 2030 is the big the big goal then it it does it does seem that way but we can't
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We can't stop talking about the truth just because we're concerned about what the future holds and so yeah,
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I'm where all that stuff's going out there and 2024 is going to be an amazing amazing year
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We have to make I think I personally have to make a decision right now it's going to be an amazing year
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To celebrate God's grace no matter what ends up happening Because the it just seems to me and I I Said back at late 2019.
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I said 2020 is gonna I just have a feeling and I'm hearing a lot of other people saying the same thing.
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I remember this And this was before kovat I Just said there's gonna
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I just have a feeling this is gonna be an amazing year And it's gonna have some real unique challenges to it.
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I wasn't trying to be prophetic It certainly turned out that way, but as we look at 2024 the real the real question is
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The question I have to ask myself is Am am I prepared to give thanks in the midst of whatever circumstances
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I? I find myself in And I can
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I can imagine some Really challenging circumstances some really challenging circumstances in that time period.
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I really can I We have seen from the
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Colorado Supreme Court Now right now my gut feeling is that's gonna get absolutely blown out
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Of the Supreme Court, but that's just for now We are two Supreme Court judges away from the end of the
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Constitution United States. Can we be honest about that? The level of election interference by Judges and courts
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The I was I saw this morning the the group that brought the suit in In Colorado funded by George Soros the greatest enemy in the
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United States that's ever existed Every single person who's ever taken a dime for George Soros should be completely precluded from holding public office the
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United States That's just there's no question about that. They're traitors. They're traitors Treason is a is a bad thing and it's it's now the soup du jour
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In Congress and everyplace else as well Anyway, uh
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Am I am I prepared to be thankful and content
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No matter what the situation matter what the context we're facing. We're gonna see election interference. We're gonna see
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It it's gonna be Absolutely an amazing an amazing thing. I don't know that anything
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Resembling the United States of America Will exist in 2025,
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I really don't We'll see we'll see but as Christians we are called to be faithful in whatever context we're placed in we have brothers and sisters living in extreme poverty and extreme repression all around the world and we think that if we have to go through that then that must mean the end of the world, right cuz
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We're God's chosen nation and all the rest is foolishness and One thing
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I do hope to see to be perfectly honest with you this
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I don't know what to call it because I certainly see a huge difference between The theological discussions of quote -unquote
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Christian nationalism and these Wacky wild strange
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General Flynn Loony bin conferences and conventions and sides.
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Oh, I Yeah, that that kind of stuff can Jump off the cliff as far as I'm concerned.
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It's it's wild and crazy stuff so yeah, there's there's all sorts of weirdness going on out there and it is
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It is pretty amazing to think about it. All right. Um, so Where are we today?
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Um Where was I going to start? I that stuff on Twitter threw me threw me for a loop.
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I'm afraid Let me let me see if I can find this real quick Yeah I've wanted to do this for a while By the way, just before I start that I'll go
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President Trump's Jenna Ellis president Trump's former Attorney who's now turned on him and all that weird stuff has happened.
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I did the Q &A with her Think it was last year may have been the year before that anyway
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She posted a picture on Twitter that she was reading Kenneth Wilson's book now
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Don't worry not gonna go there There are some people I think who run screaming in the night as soon as you say that name because we spent so long and we never even finished it because perfect perfectly honest with you we started that the beginning of kovat and then
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We started figuring out. Hey, wait there's weird stuff going on here and That's sort of pushed that Off the back burner and it stayed there a lot of people were like, okay, we've
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We're up to about 14 hours now on that that's that's enough we we get it we're gonna move on from here but the funny thing was
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Algo Posted a link to one of the many many many programs we did in The spring of 2020 on Kenneth Wilson and his book books there's the small little book and Then did numerous interviews with Leighton flowers and then his dissertation and She posted a picture of the little book and it's funny because when we first started responding this stuff all we had was that little book and the couple of the interviews and Then they're like, well, you need to read gestation.
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I'm like, so his little book is inaccurate, but his dissertations accurate or that no and So I'll go posted the link to one of those programs and I I went ahead and listened to it this morning
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I normally don't do that. I put it on high speed and and listen to it and Man, we really went into depth on all that stuff and it was the one ride caught
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Leighton flowers miss sighting Clement Clement's letter to the
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Corinthians if it's even Clement again, it's the church Rome to the church at Corinth and He had come up with this fake quote from a different book from centuries later, but says here it's in the first century and blah blah blah blah and It was
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It's pretty amazing to think back on that that time period that we that we went that deeply into all this stuff and You might want to track it down.
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It was I Do we have did we put a playlist together? I Know I don't
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I don't know If we put a playlist together of all that stuff, I I think
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Chris put one together Cuz Chris did a bunch of stuff too, but you might want to track it down.
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It's still well worth listening that I Have seen Yeah over the past What two months now it's been about two months
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Maybe a little bit more than that a really troubling trend You know, we we started people learned how to use these
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AI bots to generate graphics I haven't figured out how to do that I am only now beginning to use an
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AI assistant Which interestingly enough Confesses its ignorance of most things theological
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I've actually had conversations with it where I've Mentioned my background and training and provide it with answers that it couldn't provide.
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Otherwise and it was it was thankful I don't know whether that actually adds anything to it or not, but As Far as theological stuff, it's all this stuff.
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It's great. It is amazing if I want to know I Want to know I want to double -check exactly how many gallons in my freshwater tank
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How many on my RV how many gallons and boom just just right there so much faster than googling it or something like that anyway
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These AI generated graphics of these Knights and riding horses tingle this
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Christian nationalism stuff and then all of a sudden they started showing up as Crusaders and They've got a big old cross on their chest and all of a sudden the
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Crusades were a defense of everything that was good in Western culture, and I'm just sitting here going
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Oh Really? Okay, and so, you know what?
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I'd like to spend a little time today Reminding us of what those 200 years about 1099 to 1300 approximately
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About 200 years about two centuries the thing about that two centuries of Crusades of Military expedite expeditions religio religio economic military
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Invasions of The Middle East Which had once been
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Christian lands and were invaded during the century of Muslim expansion between 632 and 732
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Oh, what was that really all about a lot of people don't know we've seen movies you've seen movies about a certain period time period almost every movie is meant to be
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You know insert all sorts of romantic stuff and things like that The Crusades Ostensibly were to win back lands lost to the
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Muslims Especially in Palestine, but also in Spain and France because remember
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After the Muslims expanded across North Africa, they crossed into Spain and then in 732
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Battle of Tours is when Charles Martel stopped the Muslim expansion And so it was pushing them back out of Europe on that side as well
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And so The The background is the
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Seljuk Turks Invaded Palestine and Attacked pilgrims that were going to The Holy Land on pilgrimages and so Pope Gregory in 1074 now realize the
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The papacy is just recovering from what's called the pornocracy a period of time at the end of the first millennium of Utter degradation of the the papal offices bought and sold
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Vatican was a brothel it was It was bad And So The the papacy is actually expanding and growing in power at this time in the
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West In the East Constantinople Has been holding out against Muslim pressure for centuries
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Modern -day Istanbul and The Byzantine Empire Has been contracting during this time period
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Emperor Alexius from the East appealed to Pope Urban The the papacy was one of the most
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Centralizing organizing structures in the West at this point in time
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Um Now time to go into all the developments there it continued to be very unsettled for a very long period of time
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There was Pope Urban like I said 1095 the the first appeal comes from the
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East There was a European famine going on at this point in time In In the first crusade anyways, most of the
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Crusaders came from the upper classes Feudalism was in full force at this point in the
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West But there was a desire for trade for silk pepper cinnamon and Having the
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Muslims in the way. It wasn't a good thing. And so there was a economic element to the
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Crusades and To be honest There was just a desire for adventure,
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I mean During this time period the average person born in Europe Never went more than seven miles any one direction from where they were born
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Made for a very small world so the lure of far away exotic places
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With possible booty and You know economic advantage you can see the the attraction so the first crusade
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Begins in 1099 under Pope Urban People were spurred on to join this crusade by the preaching of such notables as Peter the
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Hermit and Walter the penniless The journey was long fighting
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Turks all the way They arrived in Constantinople in 1097 And in Jerusalem in 1099 so 1099 was when they get there
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They established the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem which lasted until 1187 so the first crusade was relatively successful Politically speaking
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Though the kingdom that was set up there was a medieval feudal kingdom What else could it be?
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You wouldn't expect it to be some kind of modern Democracy or something like that? the second crusade
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Failed miserably Bernard of Clairvaux was involved in getting it organized but it became involved in many petty wars and Finally an ambush in the gardens of Damascus in 1147
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And that tarnished how people viewed things the
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King's Crusade began 1189 and Ended in 1192 is led by Philip Augustus of France Richard the
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Lionheart of England and Frederick Barbarossa the Emperor The crusade was plagued by problems
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Philip took his army home Barbarossa fell off his horse and drowned in his armor
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That that makes sense when you think about it Armor. Yeah, that would not be good to try to swim in They kept going under Richard the
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Lionheart They got within sight of Jerusalem, but only got concessions from the
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Muslim leader The fourth crusade used the idea of sailing to Egypt rather than fighting through all the land routes
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It's good strategy, but poor economics They got to Venice but not to Egypt the city -state of Zara was causing
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Venice a problem The Venetians promised that the Crusaders would take Zara They would take them to Egypt the creed is
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Crusaders said okay and did Since they were in the neighborhood, however, and this is very very important they decide to sack
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Constantinople to now this was the West committing suicide in many ways
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There has been a lot of discussion as to how long Constantinople would have held out Had the
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Crusaders not sacked Constantinople It's one thing to have to fight the
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Muslims on one side, but then to have the Christians come from the other side in That was
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Tragic and had tragic consequences down the road Then you then you had the children's crusade
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Which was made up of boys 18 and younger? led by Stephen and Nicholas They felt the other
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Crusades had failed due to spiritual impurity It's certainly a level of truthfulness to them
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In Genoa, they thought the Mediterranean would part for them so they could just simply walk They were offered three ships for transport
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Two disappeared the third went to Egypt and sold them into slavery So the children's crusade ended with all the children sold into slavery
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So By 1291 all of the states along the way that had been established
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By the Crusaders had collapsed and There another don't get me wrong there are fascinating results within Europe because Many of the knights and lords were lost in the battles that weakened feudalism back in Europe itself a
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New class was born a middle class Had the opportunity to develop as a result because when you put this together with what happens between 1347 and 1351 known as the black death
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Where in some cities 75 % of the people died Probably 40 % of Europe died during that time period
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All of a sudden if you survived and you had Almost any working skills you were in demand and They it's interesting that The people with the land tried to pass laws that you couldn't charge more than you used to charge but didn't work that way
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But the Crusades the plagues These all were important in creating a middle class and hence
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Universities had been founded began to thrive and expand and All this led up to Renaissance Renaissance very important in the
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Reformation Etc. Etc. So it's a Fascinating area, but the real issue is
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You know, I remember a few people back 15 20 years ago.
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We're trying to say, you know, we just have a just have a bad idea about the
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Crusades the Crusades were a lot more important a lot better than we thought they were and You you don't have to it is interesting the the
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Muslims Did not view the Crusades the way the politically correct people.
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Excuse me View them today The Muslims viewed them as military
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If Anything they respected the Crusaders on a military level because you know, it's military versus military
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This idea of being offended by them Is a modern is a modern thing.
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That's you know Snowflakes today in that sense, but it's true that the
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Pope's promised You know where if you were wearing the cross on your armor and you died
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Plenary indulgence straight into straight into glory, you know, boom. There you go This kind of crass
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Promise of God's forgiveness If you you know, there's nothing there's nothing about actual personal conversion and you know
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The gospel didn't have anything to do with this Um, but there have been people who've who've tried to present the
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Crusades as some kind of Glorious thing and so when I'm seeing literally
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Christian nationalists of whatever whatever that means whatever stripe there's
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Portraying themselves with AI developed Biceps and everything else.
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Um, and now they're six foot seven and as if as Crusaders I'm just left going
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You know, I I don't know that I'm gonna live long enough, but if I do
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I'm gonna I'm gonna see these guys 20 years from now going
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Can you believe we did that and at least I'll be able to go I Tried to warn you but y 'all just you old people you're discouraging young people from being manly and I'm just like I'm sure
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Barbarossa was very manly right up to the point where he fell off his horse and drowned on the river um
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We have a different way of defining manliness, I think at that particular point in time
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From from a simple gospel perspective How do you?
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How do you square the teachings of Christ? with The Pope Getting people to go to war
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And please don't don't tell me that these were good Christian soldiers
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They sacked Constantinople for crying out loud The vast majority of the of the motivation had nothing to do with the glory of Christ or anything else, please
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It was Self aggrandizement adventure riches and We're bored to death here in Europe Had a lot to do with the vast majority of it
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So I'm not sure how you Program any of that into the
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AI bots that are generating these graphics But There you go,
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I just thought I would I would mention that Yeah The immigration
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The absolute unlimited immigration and then everything that goes with it itty -bitty sanctuary cities.
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Yeah, that's That's what's coming. That's what's coming. It is truly an amazing thing
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Okay, stop looking at Twitter So Many things that come screaming by Yesterday I saw a tweet
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From a reformed Baptist now I Clicked on his well,
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I clicked on his ID again from another account because he's blocked me.
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So he he likes to make public comments about me But having blocked me in the in the process
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Which I think is somewhat questionable. But anyway, Paul Hess is his name Paul has mats mats.
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I believe that's a master of arts in what theological studies I think something like that from Southern the
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Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Paul has been one of my vociferous critics.
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He says he's a Confessional Reformed Baptist Yay And I saw a tweet that said from him
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Someone better tell Douglas Wilson Owen Strand and James White what the second
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Helvetic Confession says about their views and then used a
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Kindle quote we also condemn all heresies and heretics who teach that the
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Son and Holy Ghost are God in name only and also, there is something created and subservient or subordinate to another in the
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Trinity and That there is something unequal in it a greater or a less something corporeal or corporeally conceived
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Something different with respect to character or will something mixed or solitary as if the
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Son and Holy Spirit Were the affections and properties of one God the Father as the
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Menarcheans Novationists Praxeas Patrapassions Sibelius Paul of Samosota Iatis Macedonius Anthropomorphites Arius and such like have thought so evidently this is aimed at some conversations recently that Doug Wilson has had
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In regards to submission
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And I don't know if this is something new because we had a discussion on the Trinity and I don't remember
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Doug saying those things In our discussion, but maybe it's something that's happened since then. I don't know Of course
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Owen Strand and the ERAS position that he has enunciated over the years along with his father -in -law
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Bruce Ware And I Pointed out at one briefly.
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I said I you know, both Owen and Doug know that I Don't hold those positions.
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So I'm wondering what Paul Hess is lying about now Because when you look at what is quoted here
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As if the Son and Holy Spirit with the affections and properties of one God the Father as the Menarcheans Novationists Praxeas Patrapassions Sibelius and I go, you know,
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I can think back over Meeting over the past 40 years
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But especially over the past 20, I mean because you know ministry is rather small at first but I have met many former
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Jehovah's Witnesses Who loved the Trinity today? And it was our debates and our teaching that was used to Get them out of that Arianism some of those precious conversations
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I've had up in Utah have been with families individuals who were once polytheists and Members the
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Church Jesus Christ Latter -day Saints and who today Confess there is only one true and eternal
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God our Orthodox Trinitarians and involved in good churches and once again
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Excuse me It was Alpha Omega Ministries and in Utah these days
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It's very very common this can't tell you how many times and Jeff will say the same thing where we go up there and It was
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Jeff Durbin James White Paula Gia Alpha Omega that was
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Essential in bringing them to that saving faith We have a deacon in our church solid rock -solid guy just Heart as as big as a house and just a servant which is what a deacon supposed to be and It was my debate with Elder Aka that started him in His journey out of the black
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Hebrew Israelites and there have been many others When I go back to st.
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Charles which is right near st. Louis, which is where the headquarters UPC eyes Now a
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Pentecostal Church International again Over the years person after person after person led out of Monarchian ism novation ism fraction ism patra passion ism et cetera, et cetera and How are they let out?
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ministry of this This program and the debates that we've done all sorts of things like that and then
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Always a Just heartwarming experience to talk to Muslims former
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Muslims who have come out of Islam and Have come to embrace the truth about who
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Jesus Christ is and Our role in bringing that about I don't know
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Paul Hess does I don't know what his ministry is
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Excuse me, I'm we were gonna do the program yesterday, but As you can see,
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I'm I'm I'm feeling better, but I'm not not over this stuff yet. And after 45 minutes of talking it starts getting really ticklish down there
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Anyway, I don't know what Paul Hess does and I don't know what ministry is his But in all my years of doing apologetics,
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I've never heard of him I've never seen anything. He's written that would even begin to bring people out of these movements and so I just really wonder about a kind of quote confessional ism end quote that produces
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First of all a complete Lack of concern as to whether what you're saying is even true
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Let alone does it have integrity? Is it gracious? Is it doesn't need to be said any of these things like that.
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I Whatever produces that attitude is not an ad it's not something that we should be promoting
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So he also he pinned this This one here
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Quote if the reformed Baptist world were as confessional as it ought to be
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The errors of people like James White canonicism Owen Strand eras and Jeff Johnson theistic mutualism
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Wouldn't get the time of day We desperately need a revival of genuine confessionalism now
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I'm not sure how many times we have to Address this
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But since more and more people are repeating it it's it's so sad
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When I Encounter this situation where I'll be speaking somewhere and someone say, you know,
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I heard you were coming and Wanted to see if if maybe we could have you come to our church but one of our elders said that you're not
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Orthodox on the Trinity and so we wouldn't have you and Normally what they're saying is one of our elders said that you believe in eternal functional subordination
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So we wouldn't have you and it's just like lies that are repeated
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Over and over and over again take on a life of their own and I wish
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I could just simply once say this is a lie Here's why it's a lie and then never have to worry about it again, but it doesn't work that way.
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I mean Most of the people in our society are already forgetting About what was done to us in 2020 and 2021
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I reposted that a Video and there's a number of them out there, but I reposted a video yesterday
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Of all of these MSNBC CNN leftist media types that were blaming everything on the unvaccinated and how we need to have mandatory vaccination and Howard Stern and Arnold Schwarzenegger and all these people and People are already forgetting
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That they were threatening your jobs And We're already forgetting how many young people have had their lives ruined how many early deaths
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And and it's it's almost becoming like a daily thing where new revelations are
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Coming out about what certain pharmaceutical companies did During that time period and the things they hid and the data which wasn't available
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To where we just we don't you hardly think about it anymore it's it's amazing how fast we forget and if we do it with stuff like that, then
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I May correct these lies and these slanders But six months later who remembers?
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Other than algo algo remembers but not too many people ask algo and so It is a it's a sad thing to have to Correct these things over and over over especially it's one thing
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When the Mormons repeat lies about you or when the King James only us
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Repeat lies about you or or stuff like that that that's one thing These are lies being repeated
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By The TRs the truly what those
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TRs and TRBs The TRs the truly reformed folks, they're they're the ones that you know, they they cross every
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T they dot every I in the Exact same way of their favorite frame framer of the
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Westminster Confession of Faith, you know They they found a personal letter. He wrote and so they they even write the same way that they're
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Their heroes did okay. You know what I'm talking about? I mean There are the truly reformed.
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Oh, by the way, I Was gonna start with this
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Let me just throw this in here just in front of it and then run I'm just gonna
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I'm just gonna run right out of the studio and I'll go is in the chat.
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How I don't even I don't even know how to get into a chat. This is amazing I guess we have a chat somewhere.
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I don't know where it is No one's ever told me where it is how to access it.
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Nothing got no idea But we have a chat and so I'm told that yeah, it's in X great.
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That doesn't help me one little bit I have no idea where it is. Never seen it
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Might be worthwhile for me to see it. But then again, it would probably distract me anyways But Archbishop Bancroft When he was a canon of Westminster Abbey took
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Calvin's side against the somewhat peculiar extremes That were developing among English Puritans.
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I This is a quotation from a dear friend of mine on Facebook. I Previously mentioned the
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Puritan hostility to Christmas and Easter, but there were other things by the way, let me back up the previous comment was how in Calvin's Geneva they celebrated
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Christmas and Easter and Calvin defended the celebration not with debauchery or drinking or all the rest that stuff but he felt that the
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Theological realities behind those those days Should be celebrated in the church
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Okay in the church so Bancroft wrote and That you may perceive what great difference there is betwixt our men's spirits and Master Calvin's Their outrage and his modesty their rationals ignorance and giddiness and his sobriety learning and judgment
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But it may peradventure be said that howsoever Calvin did carry himself in this cause
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Yet Beza is of another opinion Indeed he is so but it turneth more and more daily to his own discredit
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He succeeded Master Calvin in place, but neither in his learning nor in all his virtues
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There seems to have been a that's the end of the quote back to my friend there seems to have been a puzzling strain of quirky extremism among English and Scottish Puritans that Isolated them from Calvin and the continental reform tradition it just Mm -hmm
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It it always makes me smile a little bit when you get the
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TRS but they are focused upon just a very narrow segment and and they
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They're using a lens that they're using to interpret things. They just maybe not aren't even aware of it
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And then you have to TRB's the truly reformed Baptists So these are the strict confessionalists and once again crossed
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T's dotted eyes You know, there's a certain number of Books you you have to have read these
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You you've got to read Nehemiah Cox and you've got to memorize things related to it and everything else and And so it seems that Paul Hess is one of these even though he went to a
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Southern Baptist school is one of the the true the truly confessional ones
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So if the reformed Baptist world were as confessional as it ought to be Which means as as confessional as I am
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That when you run into one of these TRB's That's what they mean. They're the standard And and this is this is what is going to be the problem
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Because you'll always run into someone who's going to be more than you It always ends up resulting in division and The most of the
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Presbyterians have figured this out that's why they allow for They they've they've recognized you you simply
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That there were differences of opinion amongst the framers at the Westminster can that wrote the
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Westminster Confession and so there has to be some level of freedom in the interpretation of what they wrote because there were differences amongst the authors to begin with Evidently the
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TRB's are going the opposite direction The the
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TRB's are saying we are going to dig into every last iota of Documentation we can find
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From the people we can theorize Because there's questions we're involved the writing of the
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London Baptist Confession of Faith and we instead of broadening our base
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And Emphasizing the central aspects of the confession in a day where those are the things that are under attack we are going to narrow our base down as much as possible and We are going to demand strip strict
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Subscriptionism and we're going to become as brittle as we can be and Everyone's gonna have to look and think exactly like It's just the way it's gonna have to be or you're out you are we don't want you and There's not gonna be a good end of that There is there is not going to be a good end
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To this this movement this TRB movement. So let me right now
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Clearly once again here at the on the at the end of our Oh Hold on a second
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Ask I'll go I'll go remembers a lot. I'll go remembers he does indeed. That's what
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I hear Okay. Well, all right So it's a broadcast
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Look at that there. I am Thankfully, I hope this isn't
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I hope there's no volume Yeah, I've got the volume off that's good
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Huh? Hi turrets and fan turrets and fans in there Okay I'm not sure how many people are in there
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But oh it says This is fun Comments are limited by broadcaster.
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I can't comment on my own show It's it's grayed out
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I'm not I'm not allowed to comment on my on my own show Oh 63 viewers only 63 viewers right now in in Twitter, but I don't know.
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Maybe I'll maybe I'll put it someplace I'm not sure Yeah, someone said hi
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To which I say hi. I can't say anything else because I'm I'm not allowed to type in my own in my own channel, but That's okay
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It's all new to me folks, uh, well you you must not be logged in. Oh I don't know.
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Oh Yeah, that's true Log in. Yeah, don't have time to do that. I would I would have to do this beforehand
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So I'll just keep that there and we'll we'll Maybe I can pop in later and see stuff.
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Anyways back to what we were saying the TRB's Um If you want to understand why a small group of very narrow Individuals Who as far as I can tell?
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Limit their conversations and Activities to a very small spectrum of things in other words
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These are not individuals that are out doing anything with Muslims or Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses or Roman Catholics or one of the
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Pentecostals or Unitarians or anything else they they just sit in their little conclaves and Compliment each other on just how wonderful their theology is
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If you want to know what this is all about it's all about Matthew 24 36
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Maybe about Philippians 2, but I mean, I've never seen anybody of even start to provide a meaningful criticism of of the work that I've done there and Matthew 24 36
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Extremely difficult text said it all along Went to the vast majority of my ministry with with a clear recognition that when people would ask
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When I'd be in churches and people would ask about Matthew 24 36, I would say I could tell That the people in charge were glad I was answering and they weren't
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Because it's tough text. I'm about to run out of that stuff. That's all I got left when that when that runs out We're done With my throat the way it is
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Matthew 24 36 Mark 13 32 The text
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Parallel text mainly there's actually a textual Variant between them, which is really really interesting.
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But most of my comments have been focused on Matthew 24 36, which comes up over and over and over again in apologetic situations so one of the
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The text is but of that day and hour no one knows not even the angels of heaven nor the Son, but the
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Father also now there is a textual variant There are
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Later manuscripts that do not have the phrase neither the
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Sun If I am recalling correctly here, let me
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I'm just doing this off the top of my head here Yeah, well, okay
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Interesting Neither the Sun does have
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It is indicated to be a variant in Mark 13 32, but Extremely minor few manuscripts the
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Vulgate and unseal manuscript X so There's much more of a variant in Matthew 24 36, but even then
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It seems that the original text is very easily discernible but at that day and hour no one knows not even the angels of heaven nor the
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Son, but the Father alone and this comes up in apologetic contexts in debating
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As soon as it was known I was in chat people were asking for book recommendations, that's Evidently I can
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Some people have a very high view of what I can multitask to do So Unitarians Mormons Jehovah's Witnesses Muslims will all raise the same the same question the same issue and very often what you have to do is
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You have to give an answer in 60 seconds now
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I Am NOT saying that every true theological answers
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Has to be able to be squished into 60 seconds Not what I'm saying
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What I am saying is I often debate individuals who are very sharp and I have over 40 years
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Established a standard of consistency That I seek to hold my opponents to and so I have to be consistent myself
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Now you can answer a Question about Matthew 24 36 in two ways
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One is to seek to do so biblically the other is to seek to give an
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Answer based upon a Systematic theology now
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No matter who I'm debating if they have a religious system. I am holding their religious system accountable to a biblical standard
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Even a Muslim. Yeah, you can do that Only when dealing with An atheist or something like that Do you have to go more deeply into?
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Where you get the laws of logic and things like that so For example when
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I'm debating a Roman Catholic and I quote from Romans 5 1
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Therefore I haven't been justified by faith. We have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, and I'm emphasizing
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Peace Does the Roman Catholic Gospel provide peace or does it not if their response is?
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to ignore Romans 5 1 and to give me an answer based upon the
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Magisterium based upon the Kens and creeds the
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Council of Trent I Am going to Say that those
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Conclusions are subject to correction based upon the higher authority of the immediately inspired
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Ontologically unique Romans 5 1 Therefore When I give an answer to Matthew 24 36,
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I have to be consistent and derive my answer from Scripture Not from confessions creeds
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Other conclusions now I can bring other Scripture in I can
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I can say well, we know this scripture says this this scriptures this is and this scripture says this and Therefore that throws light on on how we should understand this because the
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Bible is consistent with itself That they may or may not accept that But I cannot if I'm going to be consistent at all
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Start with the conclusions of my theological systems and then interpret Matthew 24 36 in light of that Because I've already said my theological system was derived from Scripture and I would be contradicting myself if I did that and so what
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I have said is When you look at What is said here you you have to ask yourself the question who is speaking here
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And what people say is well, there's only now this isn't no one ever said this to me before until the past coming up on two years, but what you're told now is
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You have to engage in partitive exegesis, oh, what does that mean?
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Well, um Basically what it boils down to in this context in this situation is
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You can Recognize That Jesus is speaking in the incarnate state now again,
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John 14 28 the father's greater than I am What what are you gonna do with that?
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Well, Jesus is speaking in the incarnate state and he is talking about going back
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To where he was before He is said he is sent by the father He's going back into the presence of the father and if he'd loved me
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You would have rejoiced because the father's great. I'm so that the context that the text itself
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Provides The necessary context for its own interpretation. It really does
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Most Jehovah's Witnesses and others are quoted. They don't even know what the context is. So So there's everything right about recognizing that there are times when
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Jesus is speaking with specific reference to his
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Humiliation is having entered into human flesh But What that ends up meaning is that people say well this is
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Jesus is human nature speaking so the theological idea is in his divine nature he knows and Must of necessity because he's known in eternity past There's perfect unity between father son
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Holy Spirit He clearly knows today the spirit knows spirit knows deep things of God so the son as the
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Eternal son the second person Trinity knows But this is just the human nature saying
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Donald Okay, that's your theological conclusion
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Here's the problem and I would like all of these people who now think there's there's one school that actually thinks there is now a
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Classical interpretation of Matthew 24 36, which they didn't know until past year and a half all of you capital
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C Confessionalist truly reformed Baptist guys. Okay number of months ago when
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I post this October 14th. So yeah, this is last year October 14th, 2022.
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I This is an article called just too long for a Twitter threat you would think this would have been enough but it's not
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I Wrote the following Immediate context includes heaven earth will pass away my words will not pass away highly exalted language connecting
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Jesus to the origin of God's Revelation and Then the next verse mentions the coming the Son of Man Daniel 7 one could argue son
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In 36 is to be seen as Son of Man and therefore emphasize the human nature However, taking all three verses in context
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It would be it would seem the coming the Son of Man would be in reference to the divine scene in Daniel Not a delimiter pointing only to Christ's human position
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Next the conjunction of son and father is vitally important. Ask yourself a question here. Here we are for every one of you capital
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C confessionalists I've I've directed y 'all to this on how many times lost track.
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No one has answered this question and basically Here's my blunt statement if you don't answer this you're a coward and I don't want to hear from you again
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Just shut up Just shut up. If you want to answer this you lack integrity period end of discussion
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Okay dollars to Ask yourself a question if you were discussing this in face of sharp subordinationist objectors
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How would you respond to this line of argumentation so here it is it's right in the article I'll try to remember the link to it.
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Here it is. Whoa Are you saying that Matthew 11 27 should be understood?
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all things have been handed over to me by my father and No one knows the human nature except the father nor does anyone know the father except the human nature of Jesus and Anyone to whom the human nature of Jesus wills to reveal him or are you saying that you are baptized into the name singular?
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of the Father the human nature of Jesus and the Holy Spirit You seem to get the switch back and forth in a very convenient manner without any reference to the context of the passages
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We are examining End of question now,
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I I get it. I get it The vast majority you guys you never put yourself in a position of ever talking to somebody like this
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I get it You you're you're safe warm and cuddly in your little theological enclaves where you sit around and you
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You quote John while owing to each other and and it's it's warm and it's great so How are you gonna answer that?
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If you can't answer that you have nothing to say to me nothing
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Just just move along go do something else, but I am saying to brother
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Hess If you're gonna keep and what he does, he knows I'm blocked. I can't see his tweets so he will take shots like this and I guess he thinks he's safe or something behind his little
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Ukrainian flag. Yes Twitter and stuff like that Um But I simply say to Paul Hess if you can answer that question
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You should you should shut your Twitter account down and just Go away Go go find something else to do
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Okay, you really? Really need to do that Answer that question because the question
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Shows where the real issues lie on what grounds?
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Do you? Simplistically argue that oh
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The the Sun here is the human nature When there are all sorts of other places
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In the Gospel of Matthew Where we're talking about the
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Divine Son and you have to come up with a consistent way of identifying what that is
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You've got to do it and and if you don't do it then just admit our theology here
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Is determined by our theological system not by exegesis. So I know London Baptist Confession of Faith chapter 1, you know, it says that We say one thing in chapter 1 and then we do something different someplace else
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Is that really what you're gonna do that really what you're gonna say? Good luck with that.
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Good luck with that couple other things. He said real quick He says
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It's interesting. He quoted John Owen Listeners the guilt of schism lies with those
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Christian bodies that have departed from the apostolic model Not with the independents who have preserved the biblical pattern
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Did you hear what you quoted there? Think about it for just a second If the independents are able to recognize the biblical pattern
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So as to Engage in schism From Christian bodies that have departed from the apostolic model.
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What are they doing? They're engaging in biblicism
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Which every Baptist is by definition Can't get away with Um But he then says biblicism lacks the linguistic and philosophical tools
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Required to adequately answer and refute Arianism after all Arius was functionally a biblicist
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Sola scriptura on the other hand has exactly the right tools to answer and refute Arianism and that's what
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Athanasius and company did well Once again, we're left going and how do you define?
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biblicism here Yes, Athanasius and others did exactly that and yet you still have to hold
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Athanasius To a biblical standard in many areas. He was deeply influenced by the desert fathers
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And so there's certain aspects of his anthropology and even soteriology Where you would have to?
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Hold him accountable at that point and hence be a consistent You know, that's what you got to do
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One last one here, I think it's one last one. Yes Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses accused
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Nicenes of using pagan Greek philosophy to defend the Trinity. Why? Yes, they do
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Open theists do the same thing with those who defend divine immutability Mmm wasn't one of the main
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Arguments in my debates on open theism, but So it should be very concerning when 1689
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Jeffrey and company that is Jeff Johnson do the same thing in attacking classical theism and if his argument simply was
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That they're using philosophical terminology and language and that would be true, but that's normal. That's not his argument
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Speaking of which speaking of which We are scheduling
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Right now it looks like Week from tomorrow, so the 4th of January Excuse me 4th of January.
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Hopefully I won't sound like this by then but and this stuff's been hanging on a while And I know
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I'm not the only one seems like it's there's a lot of folks doing the same thing Hopefully next
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Thursday We will be joined by Jeffrey Johnson and we'll be talking about his new book mine
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Shipped I think this morning or maybe yesterday It is a book
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I've read twice already I wrote I read it last year No earlier this year and then read it again on the last trip the revealed
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God Jeffrey knows he's gonna be taking a huge Amount of incoming fire
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Because he Differentiates between a biblical classical theism and a philosophical classical theism
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I Think it's an absolutely necessary distinction It's necessary for doing meaningful apologetics
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You know a lot of these people Who are critics today? watched my debate with Sanders from what was that 2001 at RTS and For most people it was just like man,
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I'm glad you're doing that not not us and yay boy Great arguments great biblical presentation, you know now they now they would go.
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Oh, no No, you can't can't can't do that because he's he's he's Not where he needs to be and he's digging his heels in and blah blah blah and rest that stuff
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But I don't see you all Coming up with a functional meaningful apologetic against open theism from your new newly discovered
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Philosophical foundations Just don't see it happening and To be honest with you the open theist
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I think would much prefer that you would do that Because it's the biblical data.
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That is the hardest for them to deal with not the philosophical stuff thing You all just sound like you're having a nice conversation over coffee at Starbucks once you start doing all the
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Philosophy stuff But it's when you start with divine revelation that then
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Categorizes what philosophical terminology can even mean That just reverses everything and I'm very appreciative now that this is not an easy read
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I learned more about pseudo Dionysus Than I wanted to In in doing this stuff and so I'm thankful for all the time going into that But there were influences
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Aristotle wasn't the only influence upon Thomas Aquinas a Massive amount of neoplatonism got snuck in there as well and So There may be a few chapters that you thumb through rather than Dig through deeply depending on who you are, but the book is shipping and hence the pre -orders and stuff like that revealed
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God Will have him on Lord willing next Thursday to talk about those issues and the book and Hopefully you will find all of that to be very useful.
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But as I said We Know we know what kind of responses are gonna come we know it
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Yeah, we know you just haven't read enough, you know, you just didn't you didn't read my favorite author on Thomas or whatever
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We get it, but I'm sure Jeffrey is more concerned about folks who
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Start at the right places and So we're gonna have him on next week and I hope you're looking forward to that I had a few other things here
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We'll leave them for next week because the the throats go and the voice is going and we've been going for almost an hour and a half anyways, so so there you go and There's only that much water.
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So There you go, that's that's the end of that and again,
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I'm going to assume that I'm going to say thanks for watching dividing line and then there's not gonna be any music and it's just gonna go to the splash screen and It'll just sort of die slowly
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That's that's my yep, yep, it says yep, and I don't get it because I heard the music playing before So, you know
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When I when I have control of it here we have music demons in all in all caps demons
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Let's not give anyone anything else to Pick on us for thanks for watching the program today.