Is Jeff Durbin a false prophet? Taking Questions!

Matthew 16 and the Signs of the Times

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In the cosmic picture, none. There's no problem. In the cosmic picture, it won't matter.

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Justification by Faith Apart from Works

What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather, according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the scripture say?

Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness. Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift, but as his due. And to the one who does not work, but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.

Just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works, blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.

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I was just thinking that. Yeah, yeah. We haven't played that for a while. So we have two main intros. The one we were playing, that was the first one? The one you just played was the first one. Was the first one.

I haven't played it for a while. Yeah, we need to change it up a bit. Turn it up? We actually should. We do need a new one. We should make a new one, actually. So today, I mean, obviously, catchy title there is Jeff Durbin, a False Prophet and Taking Questions.

Faith Alone and Living Faith

So what we're going to try to do today, and it's going to be difficult, obviously, with the thread, the size that it is, and moving the way that it is, we're going to try to answer any questions. And so if you guys have some questions, you have, I would say don't start them yet.

Because what I'm going to do is I'm going to touch on the title of the show today is Jeff Durbin, a False Prophet by answering or responding to a kind of short video from someone I've never heard of before.

But it was interesting. I was like, you know, that's a good subject. I don't really know who this guy is. But I did see the video and I was like, huh, someone sent it to me, actually. And I thought it'd be a benefit to the church.

Just so you know, our mindset at Apologia Studios, and this is something we say often, we've been saying it particularly often lately, is that we want to make sure that we're doing content for your benefit and edification and for the benefit of the church.

It's going to matter 100 years from now or 200 years from now. And so that's kind of like a baseline. We're thinking, is this going to bless the church and matter 100 years from now? And there are times where controversies come up and conflicts come up.

We try to avoid those like the plague. And oftentimes we will have to ultimately engage those. But we hate doing it and we wish we wouldn't have to. But we generally like to make sure we're doing content that's going to matter 100 years from now.

And I thought, you know what? Never heard of this guy before. And normally just ignore this. But the subject matter is actually vitally important. It's good for the church. And in the end, good for apologetics.

Because if you're doing any kind of apologetics or evangelism with Roman Catholic friends and family or to Latter-day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, whatever the stripe, this particular subject is vitally important for us to get.

And so it's going to matter 100 years from now. So what we're going to do is engage a bit with this video where this guy calls me a false prophet. And he has a particular way he tries to go into that angle.

And then we're going to spend some time with you guys and answer questions. So it'll be kind of like an Ask Me Anything live right here on YouTube. And let's get right into it, shall we? We shall. So this video, let's see here.

The channel name is Your Friendly Hood. It says, Jeff Durbin is a false prophet. Apologia Studios exposed. All right. So let's go. It's about a five-minute video. And we'll try to get through all of it.

So I'll try to be somewhat brief. It's challenging on this subject to be brief. But I'll do my best.

Here we go. Jeff Durbin is a false prophet who is sending people to hell. And he also looks like a piece of bacon. For those of you that don't know, the bacon pharisee, Jeff Durbin, runs a YouTube channel called Apollo.

Okay.

So to start with, if you're going to try to be taken seriously, then try to be taken seriously. I don't even understand that. I don't know what that means. I don't know if it's a compliment. I mean, bacon's good.

Bacon's delicious. So I don't know that I'd be upset. How much bacon do we eat in Germany? A lot.

A lot of bacon. I don't know what a butt ton in German is, but it was that.

We took down at least a legion of pigs in Germany.

I mean, it was really a lot of bacon. Their bacon's far better than ours for whatever reason.

I don't know how much bacon we ate there. It was a lot of bacon. Every morning, bacon and eggs. And then our special spot we go to, bacon and eggs. Yeah, we ate a lot of bacon and eggs. A lot of bacon.

We did. So I don't know. I mean, is he trying to compliment me?

I don't know if I'd be upset if someone said I looked like bacon. I doubt it.

But I've never actually heard someone say it to me before. I've been called a lot of things, but never bacon. Pharisee.

Gia Studio. He's apparently a pastor of a church. He's well-respected. The YouTube channel has over 500 ,000 subscribers. And he has a lot of different shows on there, like this show Cultish that I understand is pretty popular.

But Jeff Durbin is teaching a false work salvation doctrine. So I want to show you guys a clip from this video that I watched by Jeff Durbin where Jeff Durbin is speaking. He's doing a Q &A.

Staying on the topic of faith and works put together. Is it wrong for a Protestant church to have a creed that says something to the effect, We are saved by faith, evidenced by works. Or Abraham was saved by faith, demonstrated by works.

Yeah, I would say that the biblical view is that we are saved through faith alone. That's the instrument that joins us to Jesus, right? But saving faith is never alone. It always has works. So to start here.

So to start with, it seems like this gentleman is having a difficult time thinking in categories. One, the instrument that joins us to Christ is faith. And then the question of the nature of that faith.

If it's living faith or dead faith. If it's a false faith or professed faith. So he doesn't seem to understand immediately. And you're going to see this further in the video. The distinction between those two points.

One is what is already affirmed. We are saved by faith alone, in Christ alone. Faith is the instrument that joins us to Jesus Christ. But then in describing what that faith is, in terms of the nature of that faith, a living faith.

It's two different categories. One is how we're justified through faith alone, apart from any works of law. It is all work of God. It is a gift of God. Faith is actually a gift of God. And which apparently this man, later on, doesn't understand or doesn't seem to believe.

So just laying down some groundwork here. Here we go. Truly saving faith, it will produce works because it's a divine faith given by God that's real.

Now many people aren't going to catch what's wrong with this. Because most Protestant churches teach the error that Jeff Durbin is teaching. So he says that we're saved by faith alone. But true faith is never alone.

Now many people won't see the issue with this statement, but this is totally incorrect. I mean, let's just think about it. It is a self-contradictory statement. If true faith is never alone, then salvation cannot be by faith alone.

Think about it. This guy has a really hard time thinking in categories. The difference between the instrument that joins us to Jesus Christ, faith, and that faith alone is what joins us to Jesus Christ.

That's what's being argued by the Apostle Paul in Romans 4. Abraham, how was he justified? He was justified by faith. God justifies the faith, justifies the ungodly through faith, apart from any works.

Paul's argument in Romans 4 is that when was Abraham justified by faith? It was before he did circumcision, before he offered Isaac on the altar. It was before the law was given. That was hundreds of years later.

So Abraham comes to God with an empty hand of faith, and it was apart from any works. Abraham did nothing. He just believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness. And so this gentleman doesn't seem to understand the difference between the two things being talked about.

One is how we are justified, how we are saved. It is through faith and faith alone. It is that instrument. And by the way, I apparently missed what I said there at the end of the clip, that this is a gift of God.

So not only is that faith that joins us to Christ alone that justifies us, but that faith is a gift from God. That's particularly a very Calvinistic thing to say that I think that he's missed here, is that Scripture does teach, Ephesians 2, 8 -9, Philippians 1 -29, that faith is a gift from God.

It also teaches that repentance is something that God grants to people. And so in terms of the works and our participation, it is faith alone, and that faith itself is something that God is the one who is responsible for in terms of he gets the glory because he's the one that regenerates.

He's the one that grants faith. He's the one that grants repentance. There's no works there being done by the creature. Again, this gentleman doesn't understand the questions being asked. One is how we are justified, faith alone.

Apart from any works, there is nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing in the creature whatsoever. What happened to Abraham is what must happen to all of us. What did Abraham do? Nothing. Did he do some ceremony?

That came later. Did he demonstrate his faith somehow? That came later with Isaac. Is it through works of law in some way? Nope, that was hundreds of years later. Abraham believed God, Genesis 15 -6, and it was credited to him for righteousness.

But the question then being asked is how do I know that that faith is a living faith, a real faith? And that's answered by James 2. This gentleman would have a real hard time in James 2 and in a number of other places in terms of the other question being asked and answered by James, which is different than Paul in Romans 3 and 4, and that's the question of what kind of faith saves.

A dead faith? A fake faith? A profession of faith? Or a real faith? And how do you know it's a real faith? Well, James answers that question. Abraham is vindicated by what he did, and you know that a faith is alive and real by what it produces.

And so that's what this man is having a hard time with, and so he makes the claim that Jeff Durbin's a false prophet based upon his inability to think in categories.

Anything? Well, I'm assuming he must be some kind of Armenian, like, non-lordship salvation. I know we don't know what that's an assumption, but I'm still waiting for the false prophecy.

Yeah, and I guess you could maybe think about it in terms. Yeah, I saw that too. I was like, I didn't want to give a prophecy. I don't remember doing that. I'm not in the habit of doing that at all. But I think it's in terms of, like, call someone a false prophet in terms of maybe what they're foretelling.

I think maybe he meant false teacher. Because, you know, a prophet in Scripture, there's two categories of prophet. One is foretelling. In other words, God tells the prophet, this is what's going to happen.

The prophet says, this is what's coming. So there's a foretelling, or there's a forth telling. In other words, these are the words of God, and I'm telling you what God says about himself, about me, about the world.

And so there's two categories of prophet. I think maybe he's trying to accuse me of being the false prophet in terms of the forth telling. I'm lying about how a person is saved, or I think that's what he's saying.

True faith always produces good works. Then it's impossible to have faith without works. Boy, this guy has a hard time.

Okay. So this is what happens when you have no balance, and you can't think in categories, you can't think critically. Is it a bad thing to have faith and works in the discussion of how a person is justified before God in terms of trying to cram those things together to be justified before God?

It is an abomination. It is anathema. Yes, Paul deals with that throughout the Bible. Galatians is particularly a good letter to hang out in to see that you cannot even begin to mess with that. If you even add one thing to how a person is justified before God, like even just this one thing like circumcision, Paul says in Galatians 5, Christ has become of no benefit to you, whosoever of you attempts to be justified by law, you've fallen from grace.

So how serious is it to cram faith and works together? Paul makes the point, if it's even in one single point, circumcision, you have now chosen the path of law. You're under obligation to do the entire thing.

So is it dangerous? Yes. However, this is where you get like falling off a cliff. It's not wrong to have a discussion separate from that about how a person is justified before God, about faith alone apart from any works, to begin putting the words faith and works together in sentences over here in terms of like living the life as a Christian, living the Christian life, or in terms of how do I know someone's faith is real and that they're just saying they believe?

Okay, let's put it in this way. Let's say that we all go out together to go get dinner at Mill Avenue. Mill Avenue is ASU college town, gets kind of crazy sometimes on Friday and Saturday nights. A lot of debauchery, licentiousness, and things like that happening on Mill Avenue.

So we're going down Mill Avenue. We decide to stop on a corner to preach the gospel a bit, maybe handle some tracts. So we are standing there, and all of a sudden you see a dude walking up, and it's a guy with a beard.

He's got a halter top on and a miniskirt and pink hair. And he stops to talk to you, and while you're talking to him, he goes, Oh, I believe in Jesus. I have faith in Jesus. No, no, I have faith in Jesus.

I'm a Christian. I have faith in Jesus. You would be able to, and it's necessary for you to, challenge that profession of faith because of these works being presented right now. That's the fruit. Exactly.

Do you see the point? So this gentleman doesn't understand the distinction between the two conversations. One is how do we know from our position, man to man, woman to woman, men to women, how do we know that your profession of faith is something that we can say, I think that's real.

In the same way that James makes the point, how do you know that Abraham believed God? Well, by what he did, because he offered Isaac on the altar. That was the vindication that Abraham's faith was the real thing.

By the way, that incident of Isaac on the altar was about 20 years after he was justified before God. See the two conversations? One is how a person is justified before God. Faith alone, apart from any works, there is nothing, nothing, nothing in the hand of the creature.

It is an empty hand. It offers nothing. It is all of God's grace. The next question is how do you know that that faith is a living faith, that it is actually a real faith, a genuine faith, a divine faith?

And that is by what it does. And this man thinks it's a dirty word, or dirty words, to bring faith and works together in conversation, because he falls off a cliff over here. He can't think in the categories that Scripture actually argues about.

How a person is justified through faith alone, how they receive eternal life, how they're reconciled to God, and then the later questions that come about How do we live as Christians? How do you and I know that somebody actually believes, right?

I mean, taking his perspective, I guess, the guy on Mill Avenue with, you know, the pink tutu, or, you know, whatever, is saying, I believe in Jesus. You go, yeah, all right, yeah, okay, I guess, I mean, you know, professionals of faith and all, you know.

You know, don't we have a right as Christians to challenge that? I mean, I'm wondering if this gentleman, he was in a church community context, and he had a brother who decided to shack up with his girlfriend, continue going to worship.

Maybe he's in the worship team. He's, you know, he's singing songs on Sunday. But this guy knows that that guy is, you know, into porn, drunk every day, sleeping with his girlfriend. I wonder, does this man, in that context, have a right to challenge that man's profession of faith?

To say, I don't think you really understand the gospel, I don't really believe that your faith is genuine because you're living totally apart from Christ, you seem to hate his law, you don't care about his lordship and his authority in your life.

I mean, do we understand the two conversations happening here? One is how a person is justified before God, and the other is how we know someone's faith is a living faith. Here we go.

Ephesians 2, Romans 4, and the Gift of Faith

You should always have faith and works, no matter what you do. And if this statement is true, then it renders multiple Bible verses and entire passages completely incorrect. For example, one of the most popular verses on faith alone salvation, Ephesians 2, 8 and 9.

For by grace are you saved through faith, not that of yourselves. It is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Right there it says we are saved by grace, through faith, without works.

Which means even if you have no works, you'd still be saved. But in Jeff Durbin's perspective, if you do not have works...

Wait, hold on. Is he really gonna stop there? The verse that you quoted there, you left off the next verse. I wonder why you did that. Because you see, Ephesians 2, 8 and 9. For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves.

It is the gift of God, not according to works, lest any man should boast. It is interesting in the text, if you do your homework and go into the Greek. By grace you've been saved through faith, and that, tuta, right there, the grace and the faith, not of yourselves.

We actually are saying that it is the grace and the faith that are not of ourselves. They are the gift of God. Even the faith itself is a gift from God. It is that gracious of a gift. It is that much not of you, and not according to works.

But the text actually goes on, and it makes the very point that you don't seem to get. By grace you've been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is a gift of God, not according to works, lest any man should boast.

And you forgot to mention the next verse. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus. What's that, Paul? Unto good works, which God has already prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

I always think it's interesting as people try to, you know, come against what Reformed Confessionalism teaches on this point, and Historic Christian Orthodoxy, when they quote Bible verses like this, they leave off that part because it actually militates against the very point that you're making, and it supports the point that I was making.

And that is that you want to ignore the fact that there are two things in question here. One is how a person is saved. The other is God's purpose in their salvation. What does it say? What's it say? For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus, unto good works, which God has already prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

It is interesting that he left that part off. I mean, I think we can all rightly have our suspicions as to why.

You are not saved. So that Bible verse is just incorrect. You are not saved by grace through faith without works. You must have works to be saved. Enough?

Nope. That's not what the verse says at all. Not at all. And one is the question of how a person is saved by grace through faith. Apart from any works, it is the gift of God. And the next part of the verse, it is almost like you just put your hand over Paul's mouth and say, Shh.

Shh. Don't say anymore. The next part of the verse, it continues, We are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus. Say what, Paul? Unto good works, which God has already prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

That is what the text says. And, of course, when you have a person like this that likes to fall off cliffs,.

You also like to leave off Bible verses. Well, yeah, as I say, he literally just accused you of eliminating entire passages of Scripture. Right. And then proceeds to only talk about a snippet of a passage of Scripture.

Yeah, that's the problem with proof texting.

The verse that's rendered incorrect in Jeff Durbin's and most Protestants' view is Romans 4 .5. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Now, this verse says right here that even if you do no works whatsoever, but you believe in Jesus, you will be justified. You are saved. You are going to heaven. Yeah. And nobody's arguing with that.

Well, now I'm really confused. Is he saying he's not a Protestant? I don't know. I don't know much about this guy. I don't know where he's coming from. I'm just watching this short video. Again, I thought this would be good content because it's going to matter 100 years from now because the gospel is going to matter 100 years from now, and people's distortions of the gospel.

But it is important to recognize I have probably thousands of hours on this subject out there in debate or in teaching, and I would just encourage you to go to any of my teaching where I exegete the text from Romans chapter 3 and 4.

I will say this. I am confident that I have taught on Romans chapters 1 through 5 more than any other text in the Bible that I've taught on. I have taught on this section of Scripture more than anything ever because it's all related to the gospel.

It's the thing I want to just be constantly going back to and constantly re-presenting to people is that section of Scripture. And you can go to any of my teaching over the last two decades of ministry on Romans chapters 1 through 5, and you'll see a consistency that that's precisely what I teach.

As a matter of fact, that's the point being made by Paul in Romans chapters 3 and 4 as he gets into this question of Abraham. And if you're truly a child of Abraham, you need to have the same faith as Abraham and his whole argument there.

You've seen me present this to Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, to every cult, to Roman Catholics, and all of that. You've seen me say that his whole entire argument there is that Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness, and it was at that point that he was saved and justified before God.

God declares him righteous, and it makes the point that this was before anything on Abraham's part. It was before circumcision. It was before Isaac on the altar. In Paul's point, it was hundreds of years before the law was even given.

And so what did Abraham do? Not a thing. He just had faith, and he was justified. And every presentation of the gospel, when I talk about justification, that is precisely how I've argued it. It is through faith alone, and when you are joined to Christ, you receive the gift of eternal life.

Then, when you believe in Christ, there is no question about my teaching on this point here. And it is interesting, in this text of Scripture, it says that he justifies the wicked. He justifies the ungodly.

He doesn't justify the person who is righteous. He doesn't justify the person who is doing enough good works. He justifies the ungodly, and that's what man-made religion cannot handle, is God justifying ungodly people, and he does so on the basis of imputation and representation.

That's because of the work of Christ. So this gentleman has a hard time thinking in categories, apparently. By the way, a thief on the cross, what did he do? He believed, and he received eternal life.

He believed. What did he do in terms of good works after that? Well, he didn't have really any time or anything to do anything. He died shortly thereafter. And so do we affirm the thief on the cross? Yeah.

As a matter of fact, we would even argue with those who would teach baptismal regeneration at the point of the thief on the cross, and we would argue he just believed. There was no water baptism. There was no other things.

There was no other works. It was just faith alone, and that's what justifies it. But again, this gentleman is having a hard time thinking in the categories of how a person is justified before God, and then overhear the question of how you know someone's faith is a living faith and a real faith, and that is by what it does.

And by the way, if you don't like that conversation, you should stay far, far, far away from James 2.

If Durbin's view, it is impossible for someone who believes to not have works. And so then to say to him that works not but believes, his faith will be counted as righteousness, that's incorrect.

No, again, that's a question of how a person is justified before God. That is a question of how is a person declared righteous before God, and it is through faith alone, and he justifies the ungodly. The point that I was making, and everyone's free to go watch the video, just type in Jeff Durbin, Faith and Works.

It was a conversation I had at an event evangelizing Mormons where I talked a lot about faith alone justifying us. It was a question regarding how we know that this faith is a real faith, a living faith, and what, according to Scripture, happens to a person who has been saved and justified before God.

My suspicion, my suspicion is that this gentleman's perspective is in line with a lot of people who are like with the NIFB and things like that where, hey, I prayed this magic prayer when I was four years old, and then, you know, there's nothing, no love for God, no desire for worship, no love for God's people, no desire for holiness and repentance and those things, and they would just say, that's all right, they prayed that prayer.

One time they were on their grandpa's knee, and he told them, do you want to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? Well, no, grandpa, great, repeat these words after me. Yeah, exactly. Get out of jail free, Carter.

Yeah, and so, sorry, if that's your perspective, I can't help you. If you think a person has truly been indwelt by the Spirit of God and then nothing happens, I reject that as absolute unbiblical nonsense.

I reject the idea that God can save somebody, regenerate somebody, indwell somebody, die for somebody, and then nothing happens to that person. I reject that as absolute theological garbage. And if you think that that's all that God offers in the Gospel, then you can keep it, because that is not the Gospel presented in Scripture, that's not the worldview presented in Scripture, and seriously, are we really thinking that a person can be raised to spiritual life, as the Bible teaches, in terms of they're saved, justified before God, they have peace with God, raised to spiritual life, joined to Jesus, seated with Him in the heavenly places, and indwelt by God's Spirit, giving the Spirit of God as a deposit, as a guaranteed for that future inheritance, and then nothing happens.