April 11, 2018 Show with Dr. Conrad Mbewe on “Foundations for the Flock: Truths About the Church For All the Saints” AND “Pastoral Preaching: Building A People For God”
April 11, 2018:
Dr. Conrad Mbewe, author, conference speaker, Principal of Lusaka Ministerial College, Chancellor of the African Christian University, head of the African Renaissance University Project of the African Alliance of YMCAs, board member of Central Africa Baptist College & Covenant College Zambia, & Pastor of Kabwata Baptist Church, Zambia, Africa, who will address:
“Foundations for the Flock: TRUTHS About the CHURCH For All the Saints”
AND “PASTORAL PREACHING: Building A People For God”
& announcing Dr. Mbewe’s speaking engagement @ Proclamation Presbyterian Church in Bryn Mawr, PA, @ the Philadelphia Conference on Reformed Theology sponsored by the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals
Transcript
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I'm so delighted to have an old friend of mine back on the program, somebody who I love
interviewing.
I've known him since 1995 during I believe his first trip from Africa to the United States
when he preached at Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island in Merrick, New York, which was the
church where I was saved, formerly known as Calvary Baptist Church of Amityville, and where I remained until
relocating to Pennsylvania.
His name is Dr. Conrad Mbewe, author, conference speaker, principal of Lusaka Ministerial
College, chancellor of the African Christian University, head of the African Renaissance University
Project of the African Alliance of YMCAs, board member of Central Africa Baptist
Church, I'm sorry, Central Africa Baptist College, and Covenant College in Zambia,
pastor of Kabwata Baptist Church in Zambia, Africa, and he is also author of
two books we are going to be addressing today.
During the first hour, we are going to continue our conversation that we began the last time Conrad was on
the program, Foundations for the Flock, Truths About the Church for All the Saints, and then during the second
hour, we will address his newest book, his latest book, Pastoral Preaching, Building a
People for God, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to.
Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Conrad Mbewe.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Oh, it's always a joy to.
Have you on the program, it's always a joy to hear and see you preach,
especially when I have the opportunity to actually be in the audience right there on location, wherever you might
be preaching, and that's also a reason for my excitement
today because I know that, God willing, I am very shortly going to be in the audience
the next time Conrad will be preaching at a conference here in the United States.
He is going to be at the Proclamation Presbyterian Church in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania,
not far from where I'm sitting, for the next Philadelphia Conference on Reform
Theology.
It's not being held in Philadelphia anymore, it used to be for many years held at the 10th Presbyterian Church in
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where the late Dr. James Montgomery Boyce was the pastor, so they affectionately
still call the conference series the Philadelphia Conference, but it is now in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania,
and also Byron Center, Michigan, but the theme of the conference that's coming up is
the Spirit of the Age and the Age of the Spirit.
We'll tell you some more later about some of the other speakers on the roster, but Conrad, do you know
the specific topic under that umbrella, the Spirit of the Age, the Age of the Spirit, that you
will be addressing at the next Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology coming up April 27th
through the 29th?
Yes,
the
work
of the
Spirit of the
Age.
Great, and if anybody would like to register for the Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology, you can go to
alliancenet .org, alliancenet .org, click on events, and then click on
Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology, the Spirit of the Age, the Age of the Spirit.
The dates are April 13th through the 15th in Byron Center, Michigan, at the
First Christian Reform Church, and then the one closer to me, where I am planning to attend,
April 27th through the 29th at the Proclamation Presbyterian Church in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, and correct me if
I'm wrong, but I believe you're only speaking at the Philadelphia Conference, or should I say the Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania Conference, am I right?
I'm speaking at both.
Oh, you are speaking at both?
Grand Rapids.
Oh great, well that's good news for our listeners that are in the Byron Center, Michigan area, who
will be attending the First Christian Reform Church for that conference, so I am standard corrected
there.
April 13th through the 15th in Byron Center, Michigan, and April 27th through the 29th
in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, and we'll be repeating that information later on in the program.
Well, we already had you on the program once before to address
Foundations for the Flock, truths about the church for all the saints, but our audience has grown
quite a bit since then.
According to my webmaster, the Iron Trip and Zion Radio audience has more than doubled
since last year, so there will be, no doubt, a lot of people discovering you for the first time
today, so why don't you tell our listeners why you came to write the
book Foundations for the.
Flock?
Yes, well,
the
book...
Yeah, if I'm
not
mistaken,
didn't
Paul
Washer have
something
to do
with
it?
No, no, no,
well, yes, in terms
of...
Praise God, praise
God.
Well, before we
continue.
On with our discussion, one thing that I want to make sure I address is the
African Christian University, where Vowie Balcombe is now
in Zambia.
He had relocated from the United States to Zambia to assist you in your work there.
Let our listeners know about African Christian University.
Well,
it's...
Great, well, if
you
want
more
information,
the
website
is
acu
-usa
.com, acu
-usa .com.
Do you have any other contact information that you want to give for the African Christian.
University?
Well,
yes,
if there...
In fact,
his exact
website is vowiebalcombe .org, and that's.
Spelled V as in victory, O -D -D as in David, I -E -B -A -U -C
-H -A -M .org, V -O -D -D -I -E -B -A -U -C -H -A -M .org,
Vowie Balcombe Ministries, and so I hope that as many of you as possible who have a
passion for sound theology to be spread on the African continent and beyond,
I hope that you can help with that very noble effort that they are participating in there.
And those of you who are Reformed, and especially those of you who are Reformed Baptists, will be delighted to know that
if you didn't know already, Dr. Conrad M. Beway is a Reformed Baptist, and so is Vowie Balcombe,
so you could be assured that your money will be well spent if you have a particular interest in the doctrines of grace
spreading in Africa as well.
Well, we already have some listener questions.
In fact, I'm going to repeat our email address for everybody who would like to join
us on the air with a question of your own.
It is chrisarnsen at gmail .com, C -H -R -I -S -A -R -N -Z -E -N at gmail
.com.
Please give us your first name, your city and state, and your country of residence if you
live outside the USA.
And please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private
matter.
Let's say you're asking a question and you disagree with your own pastor
over the issue or something, then we understand that you'd want to remain anonymous.
But other than that, please give us your first name, your city and state, and your country of residence
if you live outside the USA.
The first question, I typically only give the first name, city, and state of our listeners
when they write in, but I'm going to make an exception here.
I usually make exceptions with pastors and other radio hosts or
podcast hosts, and I'm going to do so now.
Dwayne Atkinson, who is host of The Bar podcast, and B -A
-R stands for Biblical and Reformed.
Dwayne, by the way, sends his greetings to you, Conrad, and is dying to interview you
himself on his program, so hopefully that will happen eventually.
Let me give a plug to Dwayne's program.
You can find out more about it at thebarpodcast .com,
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But he asks a question, have you seen a shift in the church cultural from
prosperity gospel to more sound biblical teaching in your area?
Yes, he is no doubt familiar with the fact that you have preached at the Strange Fire
Conference at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, and you
have lamented over the fact that on the African
continent there is a plague of heretical theology involving
the prosperity heresy, the word of faith heresy, that makes
Pentecostalism and charismatic theology and behavior here in the
United States seem very sound in comparison from what I understand.
But if you could answer Dwayne Atkinson's question.
Unfortunately,.
No, I wouldn't really say that.
I think only getting really when you
think in terms of why
Zambia clearly
is 10 years
foreign
in
order and sent
back because of the
Zambian people money
is Christianity is
entered into evangelism.
Well
thank
you
Dwayne,
and
guess
what?
You
have won.
A free copy of Foundations for the Flock, the book that, one of the books that we are
discussing that was written by Dr. Conrad Mbewe.
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And by the way, we do indeed want to thank our friends at Granted Ministries
for providing these books for us today.
They are very generous and very eager to see Dr. Mbewe's writings
fall into the hands by God's providence and to as many people as possible who will read the
book and be blessed by it.
And so just a quick plug to their website as well, grantedministries .org.
Grantedministries .org is their website, and I hope that you look that up and and find even more
resources that you can benefit from.
We have Gordy in Mechanicsburg,
Pennsylvania, and I have to enlarge the
font on Gordy's question because it's microscopic and I'm at 56 years of age going
blind here.
Definitely have to get a new prescription for glasses.
Gordy's question is, what issues do you have, if
any, in separation of church and state in Zambia?
That's one of two questions that he has.
A lot of conservative Christians here in the United States are very leery of
the authority and power of the government, and we are
constantly struggling to make sure that our freedoms to proclaim
our faith as freely as possible are preserved.
Of course, we are not being persecuted in any way nearly as much as many
of our brothers and sisters in Christ and other parts of the world who are literally being murdered and
tortured and persecuted in far infinitely greater ways.
But tell us about the situation there in Zambia.
In
regard
to
your
government.
Yeah,
it
began
from
there.
Well,
praise
God.
Well,
guess
what,.
Gordy?
You have also won a free copy of Foundations for the Flock, and since you live so
close to Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service, who would normally be shipping that out to you, why don't you just drive by
there, since Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, is only about 10 minutes away from this Christian
bookstore.
Why don't you just swing by there and pick it up?
It will be waiting there for you.
Just tell them that it's waiting there as a winner in our
audience at Iron Sherpa and Zion Radio.
We have Pastor Josh Fryman, who
is the pastor of Community Baptist Church in Riverhead, Long Island, New York, and he is
soon to be the pastor in North Dakota, coming up
in just a couple of months.
He is relocating and taking a call to the
New Testament Baptist Church of Larimore, North Dakota, and
he doesn't have a question.
He just wants to praise the Lord for your book, which he already has.
He already has Foundations for the Flock, and he said that he loved reading it and has been
thoroughly blessed and edified by it, and he also says in particular he was blown away by
your description of the elements in the Lord's Supper, how
bread is just a common food that everyone, even the poor, can afford,
and you described how it is a symbol for the body of Christ.
Perhaps you could even elaborate a little bit more on that in regard to what you've written in your book about that.
Yeah, that's something I can't remember.
Well, maybe you'll bring us some new information about that.
Yeah, yeah, well, I think basically.
The point that
would
then be
used
in wine
itself,
in and of
itself,
rather.
Well,
thank you,
Josh,.
And since you already have the book, obviously you don't need another one, so we just appreciate you contributing that
comment of praise to God that you are being blessed by this book, and we look
forward to hearing more from you after your move to North Dakota.
We have, oh yeah, we have a second question that is related to the first by Gordy
in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania.
Is the climate in Zambia between the church and government improving or worsening?
Well, you may have already answered that, but do you have anything further to add?
Yeah, yeah, well, in that sense,
Thanks again, Gordy, and we're going to go to our first break right now.
If anybody else would like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is chrisarnsen
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Hey, yes, yes, I
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Yes, I'm very private, is it?
Yes, well, he's a great brother.
Yep.
And we have another listener in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Ted, he asked a very similar question that we've already had
presented to us by Gordy in Mechanicsburg, but he has a little bit of a different twist at the end.
Perhaps you can comment.
He says, a grave concern of many of our Reformed Baptist brethren in the U .S. is the anticipated loss of
religious freedoms that many American Christians have heretofore taken for granted.
As someone viewing American evangelicalism from the outside, do you share those concerns?
If so, what would be your advice to American Christians who desire to prepare
themselves for more difficult times ahead?
That last part, perhaps, is a little bit of a different question than the previous one.
Yeah.
When
people
ask, and
in
that
sense, a
sinner's
prayer,
signing
on the
door,
even
in America,
because
of
those,
I tend
to think
that
there will be,
can
be at the point when
individuals,
but in due
season, has
been.
Well, thanks a lot, Ted, in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
You've also won a free copy of Foundations for the Flock.
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We have, let's see, we have a question
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I know that Foundations for the Flock would echo the hearts of many
Reformed pastors throughout the world in regarding the need to return to biblical
foundations in our churches, but what are the primary concerns you have
amongst our own Reformed brethren where you see a drift away from these foundations?
What are these foundations that are being undermined or even abandoned, in your opinion,
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Yeah,
in a tunnel, and I
pop up in a conference, and
then again, I'm underground, and I
don't live here.
I tend to often be among like -minded brethren.
I would be individuals who would have invited me primarily because of
the things I stand for, which, in terms
of the immediate context that I find myself in, which
may not represent Reformed
brethren
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define biblical and define just
the whole area of
discipling,
appreciating what is the truth.
Well, thank you, John, and you have also won a free copy of the book Foundations for the Flock, so please make
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We have CJ from Lyndonhurst, Long Island, New York,
who says, Being in Zambia, is it more necessary
to be more ecumenical with those who are not Reformed, just so that you can
accomplish things for the kingdom?
And if so, what are the barriers that
you will not pass when it comes to ecumenical relationships with those churches
and parachurch organizations that are not Calvinistic?
Yeah,
yeah, if
you're
standing
off,
it's
difficult
in
the
churches
in
areas
that...
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And Dr. M. Bayway, can you tell us something about what compelled
you to write this book on pastoral preaching?
There are obviously, as you know, many books available to the church
on preaching, both old books that are classic and also new books that are coming out,
even by some of our dear brethren who we agree with on most if not all important
theological issues.
Why was there a need for a new book on preaching?
That's exactly the question I asked.
Myself.
I
realized
I
couldn't
think of
the problem, but
I was going
to
deliberately
think,
okay.
Now could any
pastor or someone who is in seminary who has the
desire to become a pastor,.
Anybody who is a preacher, benefit from this book no matter where they live?
Yes,
in
fact,
what has
happened
is...
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Does this book include both
hermeneutic and homiletic information?
There are many books that seem to address
the concept of preaching from a hermeneutical concept, but there is,
it seems anyway, a lack of books that actually address
homiletics, the art of preaching, the actual the
actual counsel and advice and teaching in
regard to the mechanics of oratory and so on.
If you
could
explain more
about
that.
Yeah,
well, what I've
done is define what's
fiddling
around.
You
go to
it
next
time
you're
in a
pulpit.
Great.
We have a listener who has a question that is off topic, but I
think that it is so timely and I think it's an important question that I will take it anyway.
PJ, as in pajamas, PJ in Bridge City, Texas
says, in Zambia, do you see a large problem with quote unquote race
issues since it would be very current to the problems we are seeing to seeming to have
in the American church?
Could you give some advice to the situation at hand?
Yes, we are.
I don't know how much you are aware of a situation, but it seems that even
amongst reform brethren, there is some hostility breaking out where you have those
who are either of the black race.
In fact, we I'm sure would agree that there is only one race, the human race.
But they are basically bringing into the forefront of
discussion the sin of racism.
And many of them, it seems, and this would even include white
Christians who are siding with them, many of them are seemingly
pointing the figure at white individuals alone as being guilty of the
sin of racism and being the cause of the problems that involve racism, rather than seeing it
as a universal sin that affects men of all skin colors, ethnic groups, and
nationalities.
And some people, unfortunately, have been slandered publicly as being guilty of the sin of racism, just
because they may approach the topic in a different way than
these other individuals are happy with.
But if you could just respond to what I'm saying, I hope I didn't sound too confusing here.
Yeah, we're a lot
of bees.
Yeah,
because
I mean, the
difference
between
my
last
visit
to the
US, which
was a
shock to me,
I'm in
my 50s.
And so
they were reacting.
But we went into
mixed
co
-oping.
The
next
time I come and
visit, I find it more congenial.
Amen,
I agree.
And even your brother and colleague,.
Vodie Baucom, has been sometimes unfairly and slanderously publicly attacked
by those in the black community and those who would agree with
them because they don't think that he is accommodating enough to their position.
So this is not just this is not just a black -white issue.
This kind of spreads to whether or not you share the opinion of a particular group or not.
Yeah, well, I'm hoping we'd love
to hear an update
on that.
And in fact, we're going to
go to our.
Final break, which is very brief.
And PJ in Bridge City, Texas actually has a question that involves the topic
that we will ask.
And so we will do that when we come back from our final break.
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We have, again, PJ from Bridge City, Texas, who says, can you lay down your
sermon preparation in a quick summary?
And also, what is, of course, other than a clear picture of the gospel, the
most important thing to you in preaching and teaching?
Yeah, I think it's a lot
more than simply in which you dwell among the
people, you sense where they are.
And then also,
as
you
appeal to you will
be handling.
Now, what
I find, therefore, is that
it has some of the issues that
are there while I'm doing another series.
And then, finally, it is time for me to
begin that series.
Now, this is normally
my first time to
the
meat of the
text.
And
then
what brings these
people, I
want to finally be
able.
And as you know, many
people
think
Psalm 51
is a cry
for
forgiveness,
in
a
nutshell.
He says, other than a clear picture of the
gospel, what is the most important thing to.
You in preaching and teaching?
Yeah, I think, first of all, that
for
me,
the
thing
beyond that
and being
prayerful.
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you,
PJ.
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Let's see, we have an anonymous listener who
says, the church where I am a member typically
exclusively uses the method of topical preaching from the pulpit.
Is that wrong, or is it just a matter of opinion?
All right, now, that's a relevant question, because that's something I have deliberately
added.
Not because it's wrong,
it
limits you as a preacher, often, to what you already know.
It
doesn't
help
in
your
knowledge,
and
then
which
pastoral
Ephesians
they...
Yes, and I'm sure that you would have no problem with a church or a pastor who is
routinely involved in expository preaching, going verse by verse and chapter by chapter
throughout the Bible, week by week, who will interrupt that series, like, for instance,
to have a topical message on something that is happening, perhaps in the United States or anywhere in the world
where that church may happen to be, to address some kind of an issue that is a very urgent
issue, or even, you know, in regard to the birth of Christ or the resurrection of Christ or something like that.
Yes.
Well, thank you very much, Anonymous.
If you want to give me your full name and mailing address, of course, off the air, you will receive a
free copy of Pastoral Preaching, and thank you very much for joining us on the program today.
We have another anonymous listener who says, Can you distinguish between
teaching and preaching?
I am a member of a church where our pastor seems to be more fond of lecturing
than any kind of passionate delivery of a gospel proclamation, and I was
wondering if you think that this is a matter of personal style or if there is an important
difference.
And,
of
course,
you
can
have
men
who
are
behind
pulpits
very
passionately.
Preaching nonsense or falsehood, or you can
even have, which is unfortunately very common in fundamentalist
circles, not always, I'm not broad -brushing my fundamentalist brethren, but you can have
pastors who are preaching to the choir and are very vociferously and
passionately preaching against sins that are not typically found
within their congregations.
They're preaching about the sins that are existing outside in the world.
Out there.
Right.
But, well, thank you, Anonymous.
Also, if you give me your full name and full mailing address, you will get a free copy of this book,
Pastoral Preaching.
By our guest, Dr. Conrad Mbewe.
Let's see here.
We have Christian in Suffolk
County, Long Island, New York.
And Christian says, Do you believe that every sermon, even if its
main topic isn't the gospel, should include the gospel somewhere?
Yes, but I need to explain.
In
terms of Jesus Christ,
we limit ourselves to think in its
broader
sense.
Presently,
Jesus, who
is
the
way, he
is
unexamined.
Heaven gone that far may also be failing in their mind.
Here is the height.
Why is the faith and his
relationship?
I use the phrase evangelical.
Great.
Well, you have also won a free copy of the book, Pastoral Preaching, by Dr. Conrad Mbewe.
So please make sure you get us your full mailing address.
And we also have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, who says, I love
listening to your preaching on YouTube and other places whenever I have the opportunity.
Who are your favorite preachers alive today?
At least a small list.
Well, we are out of time, Conrad.
I thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule while you are here traveling in the United States.
I am looking forward so eagerly to hear and see you preach at the
Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals Conference, the Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology, in
the Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania area at Proclamation Presbyterian Church.
And of course, I know that our brethren in the Michigan area are going to be delighted to know
that you are also preaching at the First Christian Reformed Church in Byron Center, Michigan.
If anybody wants more details about this, go to alliancenet .org, alliancenet .org, click on Events, and then
click on the Philadelphia Conference on Reform Theology.
And all the information that you need for both locations will be there.
If you want more information about our guest, Conrad Mbewe, go to conradmbewe .com, conradmbewe
.com.
And Mbewe is spelled M as in Michael, B as in boy, E -W -E .com, conradmbewe
.com.
I can't wait to fellowship with you again, brother, and hear you preach.
Thank you.
Thanks a lot, brother, and thanks for having me on your program.
Oh, my pleasure.
And I want to thank everybody who listened, especially those who wrote in questions.
And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior
than you are a sinner.