WWUTT 1240 Q&A Gates of Hell, Info Without Outrage, What is Dispensationalism?

Speaking with Grace and Building Others Up

What did Jesus mean when he said the gates of hell will not prevail against the church? How can we be informed about the times without all the outrage? And what exactly is Dispensationalism? The answers to these questions when we understand the text.

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Here once again is Pastor Gabe. Thank you, Becky. You're welcome.

Uh, you're looking a mite red there, dear. Just a wee bit. Just a few days into the summer and Becky got her first sunburn.

Swear that I was under the the shade for more than I was out in the sun and I probably was.

But yeah. She's already she's already had allergies. Yep. She's had migraines from those allergies. Yeah, and she felt like she needed to add a sunburn to her woes. One more thing. Yep. So just imagine whatever you're whatever you're picturing us doing on these on this side of the microphone.

I was gonna say on these sides of the microphones. Where does the plural go in there? That's a little odd. Just picture that Becky significantly redder than you might usually picture her. Yes. This is the Friday edition of the broadcast and we respond to questions from listeners, which you can submit via email to when we understand the text at gmail .com.

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Mm-hmm, but when you post something it's a post. It's not a parlay. Mmm, it says that on the button you post something or you're typing something and it says parlay does it really that's what it says.

But we're talking about that now just so you're aware and then we're never bringing it up again check it's parlor. And you can find pastor Gabe on parlor or what are you Hughes Becky? I think I'm Hughes Becky.

Yeah some reason for some reason. Yeah, why didn't why didn't you go with Becky Hughes? I have no idea. Surely that name wasn't taken yet. I think I think it chose for me. So it's Calvinist. Yeah. Yeah.

Chose you. Instead of you choosing it. Sure now on parlor I want to start with this comment from Patrick Cho who is the pastor of Lighthouse Bible Church in San Diego and he shared this. Be known as one who speaks words that are true that build up that give grace.

Generally as a Christian your speech should be life-giving. That's very much like what we read in Ephesians 429 let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up as fits the occasion.

So that it may give grace to those who hear and to the Colossians in Colossians chapter 4 Paul said let your speech Always be gracious. Mm-hmm seasoned with salt. Yes, so that you may know how to answer each person.

Yeah, our current day. The things that are going on in our world desperately in need of that. Oh, yeah, there's no tact. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah from the world side of things.

It is merciless, yeah graceless. Just shoot in your face kind of word.

And it's almost as if the world is handing you a card. You're allowed to complain about whatever you want to complain about unless it's about me. That's right. Yeah. You can't complain. You you can claim a victim status for yourself.

You can rant about whatever you want as long as you allow me to rant about whatever I want until it involves me. That's right. As long as it doesn't have anything to do with me and when it does then it's oppression.

Yes, now I'm being oppressed. Yes. But how much do we need to be salt and light in this world as we are called to be followers of Christ? Being salt and. And here we have the reference to our speech being seasoned with salt in Colossians chapter 4.

Mm-hmm. And Always being gracious that we may give grace to those who hear. Yeah, this is desperately needed. And we are shining a light in the midst of a crooked and depraved Generation when we do all things without grumbling and complaining.

I was just about to 14 the grumbling and complaining.

Yeah part because we're at home a lot more and. Yes, our situations are very very different than what they have been ever before. Yeah pretty much. And The grumbling and complaining it comes so naturally when you're comfortable at home.

Because you know you get done with a busy day at work. You come home. That's where you kind of let it all out and then you're you're you you regroup and then you start the next day. Well now that we're home all the time be careful of how much grumbling and complaining you do.

Yes because There are other people around you still that are listening and especially if you have children in the home. They see your character. They are listening. That's right watching and Seeing how you handle these things and are likely gonna grow up to do the same thing.

Yeah, and repeat the same way, so be extra cautious and.

Guard your lips. Yes your mouth. Yeah, put a David praying to God. Put a guard over my lips. Yes, so that way nothing unclean escapes. That's right. And let the words of my mouth be pleasing unto you.

Yeah, Lord, so we means the things in your heart are being pleasing to the Lord, too.

That's right. It's it's the out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. Mm-hmm. I've tried to be Conscious of the way that I talk on the phone. Yes. And making sure if my kids were to overhear what I'm saying, which is entirely a possibility.

Always they come to the study door. They're waiting for a break so that I can ask dad a question. So if my kids are listening is what I'm saying Going to minister to them right. Or would they hear a side of their dad?

I wouldn't want my kids to imitate right. If I don't want my children to imitate it then I shouldn't be Speaking in that way even on the phone, right. If you're on social media in.

Any capacity to do it there, too. That's right because there are adding that more people more people watching and listening and Observing on social media. Yeah, then there are in your home.

And I would say that even on social media there might need to be an attempt there to be a little more Extra a little more sickly sweet than you might be in early. Overly sweet. Yeah, because people will read tone into it that you didn't intend.

It's like they think you're if you confront them about anything. They think you're shouting at them. Yes, and that it's angry. It's like angrily hurled at them. Yes, so qualify your statements with things like Respectfully, you know saying respectfully or or kindly or using the word brother or sister, right?

Depending on who you're talking to brother. Hey, I just we don't agree here that uh, you know, however you engage in these topics I think that we should be free to express disagreement online. I agree those kinds of conversations.

Don't think that as a Christian you can't ever disagree with somebody in view of the public. But how you handle the disagreement is volume. That's right. It's gonna be the testimony never resort to personal insults making fun of a person's appearance or something like that but you're just talking the ideas through and Not just expressing yourself, but be sure also to listen to what the other person says.

Mm-hmm. And. And respond accordingly. Yeah, letting your speech always be gracious. That means including the words you type on the internet. Yes out of the overflow of your heart. The hands tweet. The hands tweet that's way anyway moving on the birds tweet.

Adam, Christ, and Federal Headship

Yeah, so we're gonna first begin with a question that has to do with what I was teaching this week in Romans chapter 5. So we're talking about the federal headship of Adam. We're born in Adam we're born again in Christ and they were under the federal headship of Christ and I gave the Illustration of of this being more like a king or an emperor than like a president or Congress.

So especially in the Western world or in English-speaking countries. It might be more difficult for us to wrap our minds around the concept of federal headship. But this would have been easier in the time in which these things were discussed.

Even though that exact term is not used in the scripture. That is nevertheless what we're talking about when we read as in Adam all die. So shall in Christ all be made alive, okay? This email came from Jerry and he says howdy love the show.

Thank you, while the president doesn't have the ability to technically declare war presidential expanded powers and power over nuclear weapons gives him the effective ability to Put the nation at war.

As far as my understanding goes I have used Trump slash Obama as a federal head example in teaching Sunday school. Because he can put our nation into war at his whim or discretion. The president still has the sole authority to launch a nuclear attack.

I think technically if he decided to use nukes on a whim it would be illegal to refuse that whim. People would have to disobey the law to stop him with that in mind. Do you think that we should still not use the president as an example of federal headship?

Thanks, Jerry. Well, I appreciate your email Jerry. My point wasn't necessarily that we can't use the president or Congress as an example of federal headship. My point was more in the sense that in the age in which this was written and the people to whom this was addressing Federal headship was an easier concept to understand that maybe we can grasp today, right?

Because I don't think that most people generally Consider that the president can just push a button and launch a nuclear attack. I mean, of course, it's a little bit more complicated than that. But we we don't think of well, I want to say we don't think of the president as being a federal head.

But maybe we do. We we've probably moved who you're talking. Yeah, it might be I. We probably have moved out of that concept of living in a constitutional Republic and the people seem any more to be crying give us a king.

Yeah, and that's who we think we're electing when we're choosing a president. Yeah, now if this was a true a true king the people would not be Selecting the president or yeah, right. It would not be selecting the king like in Israel Israel did not pick Paul or I'm sorry Paul Saul.

Who did not become Paul? This is the other Saul. Yeah, so so the people of Israel did not Select King Saul. God did right and then he was anointed by Samuel who was God's Prophet, right after Saul God chose David.

So the people didn't choose David either. They didn't pick a king and then hoist him up there, right? The king was appointed by God and Generally, that's been the sense of the position of a king, especially when you look at Well, I mean not generally but but you look at Great Britain for example.

Okay, they believe that the king has been appointed by God. So that has been a divinely appointed position. There are other pagan cultures where they believe their Emperor has been divinely appointed even though they may not believe it's God.

The true God who had appointed them even though that would be the case God is the one who sets up men. God is the one who tears them down. Yes, according to Daniel chapter 2 so the the Emperor for of Japan for example what was one of the longest reigning monarchies on earth and he Began the the monarchy in Japan began as a divinely appointed Monarchy and the people not only believed that the Emperor was appointed by Gods, but that the Emperor himself was a god was a god yeah up until the end of World War two and then that has kind of changed the attitude of the understanding of the monarchy in Japan.

But anyway That's the perception that most people have had in the world regarding their King either He is a king that has been appointed by God himself, or he is Appointed by divines or he himself is divine.

That's the general understanding therefore when we read about all who were born in Adam and we read that headship concept in Adam a People in first century Rome had a had an easier understanding of grasping that than I think that we do today and Even even when you're talking about Imperial Rome Though there was a point where it belonged to the Republic.

Then there came a time when emperors reigned right Rome at one time hated the concept of a king. They didn't want a king. They didn't like anything about the monarchy, but just over time. That's eventually what it became the Emperor was absolute.

He was considered to be divine. He was he was a god himself. He would reclaim himself to be a god. Sometimes he was able to sell that and other times not so much. Yeah, but Anyway, that's that's why that's the only reason why I mentioned that in our modern context may be a little more difficult for us to wrap our minds around the understanding of federal headship from our Western world understanding of federal And the government that it relates to but then again, you know related to Jerry's question and second-guessing that depends on who you're talking.

That's true we may think of the president as a king anymore, yeah, but thank you for your question Jerry. I appreciate that. This next one comes from John our friend John in North Carolina. Oh, yeah. Hi.

He says greetings again pastor Gabe and Becky. I may or may not have told you that that after being trapped in it for 34 years I came out of the Charismatic Church in 2012 Due to the patience of God and several people that had that he had strategically placed in my life.

Among other heretical things one of the prevailing ideas. They foster is that Satan rules hell? Almost in a similar way that God rules heaven. I quickly found that to be untrue. Thanks to excellent teaching sermons from people like dr. John MacArthur Voddie bockham RC Sproul and Paul Washer.

Another excellent resource. I have discovered is got Questions org that site confirms that there is no scripture that says Satan rules Hell only that he has been called the prince of the power of the air.

That's in Ephesians chapter 2. They stated that the most likely source of Satan ruling hell came from Dante's epic poem a divine comedy. We know from Matthew 25 that God created hell for the devil and his angels.

Although we know that it wasn't created only for the devil and his angels with all of this in mind. I Still hear several Orthodox preachers Talking about evil things and lying things that come from the pit of hell.

Kind of seeming like hell as an evil uncontrollable place and not the place of divine eternal punishment. Plus there is also Matthew 16 18 which reads. And I tell you you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

It almost seems like this is speaking of hell as a place that needs to be conquered. Not the place God created for eternal punishment. I have yet to hear a satisfactory Explanation of that verse. Am I reading too much into this?

I'm overthinking it. My wife tells me I do have the ability to overanalyze. If there's anybody that can be honest about our character in that way, it's our spouse. Yes. Any explanation you can give would be great.

And lastly, I have heard that there is a special place in heel for autocorrect. There's a special place in heel for autocorrect, yeah. God bless you and your family. I continue to benefit so much and learn from the daily podcast as I drive my truck up and down the interstate.

Sincerely John always good to hear from you John. Thank you so much for your questions. So first of all, we'll answer this in two parts going back to the statement that you made about a Matthew 25 God created hell for the devil and his angels.

Let's look at that in context first and then we'll we'll get to your actual Question part of this so it's in Matthew 25. That's part of what's called the Olivet Discourse. Jesus telling his disciples on the Mount of Olives.

About what to expect at the end of the age. That's the question that they've asked of him what when are these things going to be. Matthew 24 specifically the question the disciples Came to him privately asking tell us when will these things be and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end?

Of the age so that's what Jesus is talking about in Matthew 24 and 25 and then at the end of Matthew 25 He talks about the final judgment the Son of Man Sitting on the great white throne of judgment and all the nations being gathered before him and he will separate People one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Mm-hmm. You remember this so the goats go on his left right and the sheep go right on his right on his right, right? And it's there in the statement where he says to those on his right Enter the kingdom.

That was prepared for you from the foundation of the world by my father. When I was hungry, you gave me food when I was thirsty. You gave me drink. I was a stranger you welcomed me I was naked and you clothed me.

I was sick and you visited me. I was in prison and you came to me and the righteous are gonna say Lord When did we do these things for you? Right? Yeah, and he will say that what you have done to the least of these brothers of mine.

You have done also to me, but then he turns to those on his left and he says depart from me you cursed Into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food.

I was thirsty. You gave me no drink. I was a stranger and you did not welcome me Naked and you did not clothe me sick and in prison and you did not visit me and then they are also going to respond Lord, when did we not do these things for you?

And Then I will answer them. Truly I say to you as you did not do it to the one of the least of these you did not do it to Me and these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

So that place of eternal punishment is described as the eternal fire Prepared for the devil and his angels. That's where they get cast Into the place that was prepared for the devil and his angels. What we understand from the book of Revelation chapter 13 in particular is That those who follow Satan are the ones that will be cast into the place with Satan Where he will be punished and ultimately destroyed for all eternity.

So it's the place for the devil and his angels, but those who followed Satan and whether or not you chose to You were a follower of say you were either a follower of Christ or you were a follower of Satan.

It's either or that's right and in John chapter 8 Jesus says to the Jews you are of your father the devil and your will is to do your father's desires. So you are either children of your father in heaven and will receive the eternal kingdom that he has prepared for you From the foundation of the world that you will inherit as followers of Jesus Christ.

Or you are a follower you are of your father Satan the devil and you will be cast into the place that Satan and his demons will be cast into For all eternity the place of eternal punishment, so that's the statement there of the The place for the devil and his angels people will be punished there as well because they followed Satan to eternal Destruction that's where God will cast them in the final judgment in Matthew 16 18.

So this is you know nine chapters before this Jesus is asking his disciples. Who do people say that? I am they say well some say you're Elijah or Jeremiah or one of the other prophets but who do you say that I am and the disciples or Peter is the one who speaks up and says you are the Christ the Son of the Living God and Jesus says blessed are you.

Simon bar Jonah for flesh and blood is not revealed as to you. But my father who is in heaven and then verse 18 which John quotes in his email and I tell you in his email. Yeah, that's what I said. Oh John quotes.

I thought you're talking like Peter John. The disciple quoted in his email. Which email. John 1st John 2nd John Revelation which which email was. That was a good little comedy break. Back to the answer here.

I'll just let you keep talking. So is as John our friend from North Carolina, thank you quoted in his email Matthew 16 18 and I tell you you are Peter, which is my middle name, by the way. So in case there was any further confusion John and Peter I tell you you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

So John says it almost seems like this is speaking of hell as a place that needs to be conquered. Not the place that God created for eternal punishment. Yes, and no. We don't conquer hell in the sense that we storm its gates and actually leap into the place.

That is that literal place of eternal punishment. Yeah, but we are snatching from the flames. Those whose destiny is hell if they remain under the federal headship of Adam instead of the federal headship of Christ.

Yeah, if they remain unsaved if they're if they remain in that dead state. Walking in their sins and their trespasses. Dead in their sins and trespasses following the course of this world the prince of the power of the air.

The spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh. Carrying out the desires of the body in the mind and were by nature children of wrath like the rest of mankind.

That's Ephesians 2 1 through 3. That's who we are before Christ. But then in Christ we have the grace of God we have the forgiveness of sins. We have eternal life with Jesus Christ our Lord. So we were following the course of this world to destruction, right?

But then when we heard the gospel and repented from sin and believed in it, we've been snatched from the flames. Yeah, which is an actual expression that we have in Scripture. Yeah, it's in the book of Jude verse.

Well, I'll start in verse 22 have mercy on those who doubt save others by Snatching them out of the fire to others show mercy with fear hating even the garment stained by the flesh so as we preach the gospel and there are people who turn from sin and Follow Jesus Christ.

We are snatching them from the flames. Yeah, so when we read again in Matthew 1618 The gates of hell shall not prevail. Against the church the gates of hell are not going to be able to stop the Advancement of the church the growth of the kingdom of God in this world as Lord for that Amen as as people are being rescued from Eternity and damnation into an eternity with God in heaven.

Mm-hmm. So in this way the the gates of hell cannot stop the advancement of the gospel. I know that what we see going on in the world is chaos and we think that a secular culture is bearing down on us.

And it might look to you in your eyes like the church is losing especially if you're watching too much nightly news. Oh, yeah. But we're not God's purpose stands. He is accomplishing exactly what he means to accomplish even through these evil days.

He is still Saving his elect. Yeah for eternity with God in heaven. And we need to continue to be faithful to preach the gospel in difficult times to live in godliness. Never feeling overwhelmed by the direction of the culture.

Christianity was never about living comfortably, right?

And not to like just give in to the wind no matter which way it blows. Like to stand firm, you know. Yeah, just we know that we have one Bible that's been around for ages yes ages and ages and it's the same Bible and There's nothing that changes about that.

So as long as you're standing on the Word of God, you have no reason to.

Be in woe of anything that happens around us. That's right. God has promised us. We have eternal life with him Jesus saying to his disciples in this world. You will have tribulation. Yeah, you will have trouble but take heart I have overcome the world.

It's on the Lord. Amen for that. It's on that note that I want to come to this next question. And this is from a friend in Washington whose name I did not catch but he asked this question on Twitter. Okay, and so it's kind of goes right with what we're talking about here.

I figured I'd pull this up. He says how can we easier balance remaining informed and Not succumbing to the media fed outrage. My heart and mind is so weary of being angry and upset I get that waiting into blissful ignorance is not helpful.

What can I do to help be balanced in my approach to these times? I want to have a loving heart about this. Instead of the subsurface anger that I seem to perpetually carry. Well, you know, I think that because our culture responds to these things in an angry way.

Yeah, whether or not you agree with the answers that you're hearing. The that anger kind of becomes infectious. Yes, it does. So you either getting yelled at that's right. So you either agree in anger or you disagree in anger?

Because the the whole current that's pushing the message is just angry, right? And and it makes it difficult to kind of keep a peace of mind it how. Difficult, is it to keep peace about your senses when somebody's yelling at you just like you said, yeah.

Well, I mean we're called to be slow to anger. We're called to be Christlike who is slow to anger. That's right. It's something that obviously a lot of us have to work on and. Some more so than others.

Yes. But it is something that is very important because it's stated over and over again that the Lord is patient. Yes, and.

Therefore we are to be patient. That's right. So we must exercise patience, too. But here let me give you four things here to kind of help manage. Yeah. Being able to stay informed on the things that are going on in the world.

But not being overtaken by the stuff that you're listening to as well. So number one. Seems like a very simple enough instruction read your Bible. That's right. I think we all need that reminder. Anyway, definitely read your Bible if you listen to eat it if you listen to yesterday to the broadcast as I finished up Psalm 119 you have the statement in verse 161 princes persecute me without cause.

But my heart stands in awe of your words. Mm-hmm and the statement there being that we're not Overwhelmed by the chaos and the bad news and everything else that's going on around us in the world. We're not looking at all of the evil and we're we're we're just dumbstruck or awestruck by it.

Right. Wow, people are really really bad. Yeah, what happened to the freedoms that we enjoy? They seem to be taken away. They seem to be disappearing from us. You know, we're looking at that all around us and as I said yesterday I think that we even in a Western culture are starting to feel more and more what it means.

To have princes persecute us without cause. Yeah, and and that's gonna increase we're gonna see that increase more and more but the fact of the matter remains if We have the Word of God written on our hearts or as Paul said in Colossians chapter 3 verse 16.

Let the Word of Christ Rule in your hearts. If if God's Word rules if it reigns over us even in our hearts then we stand in awe of the Word of God. We don't stand in awe of the bad news of the world. Definitely the good news of the gospel is what's amazing to us.

Not cowering in fear or being so overwhelmed with with bad news and even constant responses and anger and shouting and and whatnot. I mean overall with the kind of protections that we have enjoyed in the United States of America.

We've had it pretty easy. Oh, yes. And so I think in there comes with that a little bit of softness. I don't mean that as an insult, but we do we get kind of soft. Yeah, we don't kinda yeah. We don't face a lot of the the trials and turmoils and things like that.

Even a person of a lower-class status in the United States still has it pretty good compared to the rest of the world and Because of that we tend to be a little tender. And there does need to be some strength about us to face tough times when they come and and a Even an anger or an abrasive attitude that comes from the voice of the of society.

Reading your Bible being in God's Word having your mind your thoughts your heart governed by his word is so terribly important it's important all the time, but this is Gonna be the thing that is gonna help you cope with.

Still being informed and not being overwhelmed, right? Would you consider whenever the Bible states? Be ready in season and out of season. This would definitely be in season. Well, yeah, that was specifically related to The instruction Paul was giving Timothy to preach the word Be ready in season and out of season right that was his role as a pastor.

I think that even the lay person can find application in that that we need to have a a firmness in the word that. You know, like I said, it governs your thinking. So we're not overwhelmed by bad news.

We're not overwhelmed by temptation. We're not overwhelmed by personal trials that we might face any of these kinds of things. You know, whatever may surface whatever trial or tribulation we face in this world.

We're ready in season and out of season with the Word of God. Maybe not having to respond to a person. But we know what God's Word says about this situation. Yeah, so that it doesn't overwhelm us in that sense.

We would be ready in season and out of season, but as it applies to preaching which is specifically what Paul was giving Timothy there. We're exhorting rebuking with complete patience and teaching and an instruction that he gave Timothy earlier in 2nd Timothy chapter 2 is that he a correct opponents with gentleness patiently enduring evil.

Mm-hmm. So you have that instruction that kind of comes up twice. Yeah, Timothy to be patient.

Okay, so I I kind of equated that to like the the brides Waiting outside, you know with the lanterns and then some of them didn't come prepared. That's right. So, I mean I equate it with that being ready, you know in season and out of season, you know, yeah.

Right, that's what Jesus said, okay in relation to that parable. Oh, you never know when the bridegroom is coming, right? But those who were filled with the Holy Spirit of God were truly prepared right for that.

They they the the day of the Lord did not Overtake them like a thief right for us who are prepared Christ return is not going to be like a thief in the night. But for those who are unprepared it's it's gonna take them by surprise and they will be unprepared for that day.

Yeah, so that's first. That's that's my first recommendation for you. Read your Bible and number to pray pray. Yes, reading your Bible and praying reading your Bible is God speaking to you. Praying is you speaking to God, but even in prayer you are taking your thoughts and you are submitting them to God's will.

It's not about. Well God, okay, you've told me what you think now, let me tell you what I think guys, yeah, I. Certainly expressing your cares to the Lord first. Peter 5 tells us to do that cast all your anxieties on him because he cares for You yes, but in our prayers, we're still called to have a spirit of thanksgiving.

Even in difficult and troubled times. Yeah, it's all over the Psalms. It's all over Psalms going through the difficult times, but still being giving thanks and remembering God's steadfast love. Yeah, even when it doesn't I don't see you.

I don't know what you're doing here, but I trust in your steadfast love because you have dealt bountifully with me. Yes, that's Psalm 13 verse 5. It's either verse 5 or 6. I can't remember how many verses are in Psalm 13.

But anyway, yeah being regular in prayer this is a you're constantly submitting your mind unto the Lord reading your Bible and praying and I I remember John Piper making this comment years ago. It still rings true if Social media is gonna do anything for us, especially at the judgment.

It's gonna be to show us how much time we had to pray and didn't. Yeah, I saw that the other day. Yeah, I saw that quote a quote came back up again. It still comes back up every once in a while. It was a great comment it was but we have plenty of time to pray.

So you need to pray if you if you're asking the question like if you're coming to me or another pastor. And you're getting guidance from any kind of spiritual leader and you're asking them a question.

How can I do this? How can I do that? Even the question that's been asked here. Have you prayed about it first, right? If you have to ask the question if you have to ask for guidance pray because the first person who's gonna give us wisdom is God.