May 25, 2020 Show with Geoff Thomas on “James 5:14-16”

James 5:14-16 and the Practice of Prayer for the Sick

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Yes, I did not take the day off for Memorial Day. I wanted to make sure I took advantage of the free time on my guest schedule because he has certainly become one of my favorite guests, and not only my favorite guest, but one of my favorite preachers of all time.

His name is Jeff Thomas, who, beginning in 1965, served for over 50 years as pastor of Alfred Place Baptist Church of Aberystwyth, Wales. And today we are going to be addressing the epistle of James, chapters 5, 14 through 16.

And then tomorrow he'll be joining us again, God willing, Tuesday, May 26th, and our theme tomorrow, to test my memory here, because he just told me right before we went on the air, the relevance of the prophet Nahum in the 21st century.

Was I right on that?

Quite exactly right.

Well, it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Trump and Sign Radio, Pastor Jeff Thomas.

Thank you. It's a delight to be here. You know, it's an anticipation.

You always do an excellent job, and as we always do, because there may be many people hearing you for the very first time who didn't hear your other interviews, or have not heard you on sermon audio or at Banner of Truth conferences.

But tell us about Alfred Place Baptist Church, where you retired as pastor for over 50 years, but it is now being pastored by your grandson.

Yeah, that's right.

Do you have any idea from those in government when you'll be permitted to gather for corporate public worship again?

No, we don't.

Wow.

We want to make sure that our listeners have the website.

So they can investigate Alfred Place Baptist Church, so that in the event that they live near there, we do have listeners in Wales, or they are vacationing there, or they have family, friends, and loved ones there.

It's alfredplacechurch .org .uk. Alfredplacechurch .org .uk. And even though you are a Welshman, you've been spending, recently, most of your time in London, England.

Am I right?

Well, I'm going to give our listeners our email address. If you'd like to join us with a question of your own on the epistle of James, specifically chapter 5, 14 through 16, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

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I'm going to read this segment, or this portion of the epistle of James, and then we'll have you let us know what you want to highlight from that, and exegete from that, and bless us with... We begin in 14 of chapter 5.

Is any among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church, and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.

Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much. And if you can proceed from here, where you wanted to highlight from this very well-known and precious...

Yeah, yeah.

There are fascinating words. Into a situation, in trouble, hardships, perspiring, and you loved to sing, as he went in his way believing, I think you very rightly warned.

Against those extreme Pentecostals who say that you will certainly be healed if your faith is adequate, which is a heresy. But, at the same time, don't you think that we who are reformed, because of the fact that we never want those who witness us being ambassadors for Christ and perhaps in a worship service or perhaps evangelizing out in the community, we never want to be associated with them.

And sometimes, I think, we go overboard to distance ourselves from the supernatural, from healing, from things like that. Now, I realize there are no faith healers today, but I believe God certainly heals.

And I think one of the things that's evident in the fact that we who are reformed are, I think, going overboard in our distancing ourselves from charismatics and Pentecostals is that I think that this practice here that's outlined in the Epistle of James is very rarely practiced by reformed people.

We have to go to our first station break right now.

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This is Chris Arnzen if you just tuned us in. Our guest today is Jeff Thomas not only today but tomorrow the 26th of May as well. But today we are addressing a Matthew, I'm sorry James chapter 5 verses 14 through 16 and this is in regard to those among us who are sick calling upon the elders for the anointing of that oil.

And if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N gmail .com. And please as always give us your first name at least your city and state of residence and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA.

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In.

Eastern Suffolk County, Ronald. Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island, New York Ronald says.

How do you.

Answer. The fact that this text in James seems to be a promise that healing will occur and yet as you said earlier we all know that it is God's will that determines whether one is healed or not physically and therefore there seems to be some confusion attached to this.

Well thank you Ronald. And if you could now.

Jeff.

Move on to the other highlights from this text that you wanted to share with us today.

Yes it will be forgiven. Sent from the elders by God is truly forgiven the only way that the Christian can consider. Another listener was a question.

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B .B. says.

When the scriptures teach us that if we are truly repentant and cry out to the Lord for forgiveness that he will not remember our sins some people speak as if Jesus actually has amnesia and really doesn't remember us making or committing those sins.

But isn't it just that he will not hold those sins against us rather than that he forgets them.

It is pick up where we left off there because I have.

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Full Preterism is the teaching that Jesus Christ returned once and for all in AD 70 to destroy the temple in Jerusalem and therefore he is not returning in the future. He is not returning physically and bodily in our future.

They also teach that the dead will not be raised in our future. So, Don Preston is one of the most well-known advocates of this eschatological ideology, and Sam Frost, his opponent, is a former Full Preterist who actually was a colleague of Don Preston, and Don Preston even published at least one book by Sam Frost.

So, this is going to be an exciting debate. This Thursday and Friday, we're going to be dealing on each night with one of the different major aspects of Full Preterism. On the first night, or first day, I should say, the physical resurrection of the dead is not still in our future.

Don Preston affirms, Sam Frost denies, and then on day number two, Friday, the second coming of Christ is still in our future. Sam Frost affirms, and Don Preston denies. So, keep that marked on your calendar this Thursday and Friday, May 28th and 29th, the Full Preterist debate between Don Preston and Sam Frost.

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