June 10, 2022 Show with Matt Trewhella on “Roe v Wade, the Supreme Court & the Constitution: Misconceptions, Myths, & Lies That Unnecessarily Paralyze Advocates for the Unborn”

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Wishing you all a happy Friday on this 10th day of June 2022. I had such a blast of Visiting st. John's Reformed Church in Freidensburg, Pennsylvania For a conference recently on The Conference featuring Matt Trujillo on the doctrine of the lesser magistrates a proper resistance to tyranny and a repudiation of unlimited obedience to civil government.

And It was not only great to see Matt in person for the first time and also to meet Past the pastor of that church where that conference was being held. Who I've also had on the program Matt Kennetzer senior pastor of st. John's Reformed Church of Freidensburg, Pennsylvania.

It was great to see them and also Quite a number of folks who approached me to let me know how much they love iron sharpens iron radio. Well, I was so Blessed and informed and fascinated by the discussion by Matt Trujillo That I wanted to have him back on the program today to discuss Roe v. Wade the Supreme Court and the Constitution Misconceptions myths and lies that unnecessarily paralyze advocates for the unborn.

And my guest today to discuss that Matt Trujillo is pastor of Mercy Seat Christian Church in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area. He's founder of the pro-life organization missionaries to the pre-born. He's the author of the aforementioned the doctrine of the lesser magistrates and He is a frequent lecturer on Righteous resistance and the lesser magistrate doctrine.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron trip and Zion radio Matt Trujillo.

Yeah, oh, it's my pleasure. And for those of our audience who?

Did not hear your previous interview on this program. Tell us about Mercy Seat Christian Church.

Yeah, mercy, well if anybody wants more information about a mercy seat in the Milwaukee.

Wisconsin area go to mercy seat net mercy seat net and. Why don't you also give a summary. Since this seems to be the the very thing that most people Especially more recently have come to discover you and your ministry give us a summary explanation of your book the doctrine of the lesser magistrates a proper resistance to tyranny and a repudiation of unlimited obedience to civil government.

And by the way folks if you are free to listen to this the podcast or the archived recording of our Previous interview with Matt Trujillo on this subject. Just go to iron sharpens iron radio calm and where it says Past shows podcast or pet our podcast past shows.

I sometimes forget the order in which that's written. If you type in the search engine true, hella Trew he LL a you will find That interview on this book, but if you could Matt give us a summary explanation of the doctrine of the lesser magistrates.

Sure, the doc the God-given right is needed. Yeah, one is when you look at it he said but I could not find one. I'm bringing my job. So the inner position and how do our listeners get a hold of this book?

You can go to our website if you order there we send in we send you a few extra items for nothing. Along with the book. For that and even though food for society. We've just seen a massive thing everybody everywhere.

He goes to leave. That are now this whole matter with the forced vaccinations. They want to get like they're building their own little private army. Which I believe they hope one day to use to oppress the people.

It's good to see or you understand the importance of this doctrine and are teaching other good man the important great. Well.

Before we go to our discussion. I also want to make sure that you Give a description of a very important Ministry that is under the umbrella of Mercy Seat Christian Church Missionaries to the pre-born.

Tell us about that.

Yeah, mr. To the pre-bar. I was a missions. Like you you end up in Wisconsin and this is where the Lord brought us up a book off the shelf Praise God and hallelujah and the website for that.

Excellent ministry is missionaries to the pre-born calm missionaries to the pre-born calm and we have to insert in here a description of a very important document that you Have gone through the time and expense to make available in English.

This was a fascinating document that you were explaining at The recent conference I attended at st. John's a Reformed Church in Freidensburg, Pennsylvania. This is a document and I'll spell it for our Listeners because it's not something that is very commonly heard about although it should be and I hope that this This reprinting of this book will make this a lot more well known.

The Magdeburg Confession and that's spelt M as in Michael a G as in George D as in David e B U R G and That is the Magdeburg Confession. Tell us about this remarkable document.

Sure. Yes was there first. He did a phenomenal job. Defining what love is and also take of love from God. You can actually anyway.

Well, I've got to get I've got to get Pastor Kennetzer on the show to discuss that very topic.

Yeah, a foreign nation was never able in order to crush the Wow Civilization and how we put reduction to the Magdeburg Confession. Great because I love George Brant that people to understand the context of the writing of this document because it's powerful and then also.

But in Europe and in South America look like that and see former thought well about these things and wrote extensive. So these were actually Lutheran churchmen they were known as evangelicals at the time who wrote the Magdeburg Confession.

It was picked up by the reformers. John Knox and then his protege from a Mornay wrote of course by the magistrate. He wrote about published on the published. He actually attributed the authors and so they were all the basis furthered and strength just important stuff.

And you can follow it up all looking and writing about all the way up. To the founding of our nation here in America.

Fascinating. Well, if you want more information on this very important document go to Magdeburg confession .com and that's spelled again M-a-g-d-e-b-u-r-g Confession .com and you can also I believe get it at the much easier to remember website defy tyrants calm Am I correct.

You can get it there as well.

Yes, and if I could just add one thing about sure. Yes, yeah the Lord uses when The what that means is the Emperor cannot care. Yeah. And he tricked him. Yeah, he did. He brought John Huss to Constance Germany under safe conduct of the Emperor and Instead of provide him in the dungeon for six months brought him out came a kangaroo into the Catholic era.

He did what they said such a negative effect and that here it is a hundred years later when he's told that I will not blush like Sigismund and So understand if it had not been oh may have been 1520 on his way.

But conduct of the his way back to Wittenberg. Frederick the wise. There's the Emperor at the top seven men directly underneath him all called electors. Kirk resided ordered in his duty according to the Emperor was to arrest Luther and turn him over so he could be executed as a notorious heretic.

Instead he any famed Luther's abduction put him in the Fort Berg castle there. Nobody knew if Luther was alive or dead for a year and Luther translated the New Testament Into German at that time and by the way, it was the common language for all Germans.

They had hundreds of dialects. This was the first time they were able to develop a Unified language and it was found in the Word of God itself. So Nicholas von Amstorff had seen the interposition of lesser magistrates with his own eyes in 1521 and understand Chris just how important the interposition of Magdeburg Germany was if it had not been for the interposition of that one city likely the Reformation would have just been a blip on the radar screen often when the lesser authority can be.

The evil and the tyranny each of his men were killed. 468 Magdeburgers were killed but in the end Charles the Magdeburgers to continue to practice at one city.

Roe v. Wade and Judicial Supremacy

Well, we are going to our first break right now. And when we return we're going to focus our discussion on Roe v. Wade the Supreme Court and the Constitution misconceptions myths and lies that unnecessarily.

Paralyzed advocates for the unborn. If you have a question for Matt true Hella send it to Chris Arns in a gmail .com Chris a are NZ and gmail .com. As always give us your first name at least. Your city and state of residence in your country of residence.

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I'm sure in the world who is of reasonable age has heard of Roe v. Wade that so-called landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court in 1973 which In which the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty To choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.

In other words It is alleged that this ruling gave women the freedom to murder their unborn children and There is a lot of as the theme of our discussion Indicates there's a lot of misconceptions there's a lot of myths and there's a lot of lies that perhaps even most people are swallowing and most people on the left and the right are swallowing and so if you could Matt tell us about what really happened on that infamous day January 22nd 1973 When there was a ruling by the Supreme Court called Roe v. Wade.

Why Roe v. Wade Was Not a Lawmaking Branch

Yes, you know the Supreme Court would make that a thin air but that's exactly what they did and Implied no one will be murdered and it was actually mine is because of the 58. They make their but they like it because they find it a you because then they can tell their constituents.

Well, I'm personal and that's a lot we have to be for judiciary decades and so that the Even I Lawmaking power the legislative branch. How much does that leave. The judicial opinion came down where the Supreme Court said to man?

He said a bird of a naked judicial claim to legislative indeed super-legislative power. A claim fundamentally at odds with who five months after a burger fell put out a Burger fell is then calling upon the cliff with one another and and that's what's happy.

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