F4F | Perry Noble Talks About Self Hate

Perry Noble’s Sermon on Self-Hate

Welcome to another installment of fighting for the faith here on YouTube. If you've ever heard a preacher you know use an example from the Bible where Somebody says something about themselves to the effect of Lord have mercy on me.

I'm a sinner and said that that was an example of somebody engaging in self hate and self-loathing. Yeah, go ahead and hit that subscribe button and don't forget to ring the bell there. You've been taught something really Dangerously false and to kind of make the point we're gonna note that Perry Noble has restored himself to pastoral ministry.

And so we're gonna head back down to South Carolina to his new Church that he's taken it upon himself to you know do without actually formally being restored to ministry after being Booted from the ministry team there at New Spring.

But he's started second chance Church, and we're gonna be listening to a portion of his sermon titled haters. The person I hate the most and this is all about Self hate and self-loathing and he's gonna twist up God's Word all along the way.

Kind of proving that really what he's doing here isn't preaching sound biblical doctrine, but is instead basically taking his Weekly therapy time and turning that into sermon prep time. That's the best way I could put it.

So let's get to it. Here's Perry Noble and haters the person I hate the most.

A Mission Trip, a Gym Encounter, and the Claim of Self-Hate

We all have like teams like we hate or whatever or places. I was thinking about this in preparation for this me this this message. I was on a mission trip several years ago to Nairobi, Kenya and It was going.

Sort of good, but on this particular day, we've been out and about doing a bunch of stuff. We were in a bus. We were coming back into Nairobi. The air conditioner on the bus was broken. It was super hot.

Dust was coming in the windows and I remember being on a mission trip supposedly serving Jesus and loving God and thinking in my mind. I Hate this place. Like I hate this place now I don't hate it. But in that moment you get caught up in that moment you you know, I had forgotten just how much when Perry Noble.

Speaks I don't want to call it preaching. But when he speaks that we sure do really kind of get a glimpse inside of what's going on inside of his noggin. Don't you know? So yeah, yeah, we're getting an interesting glimpse and whoa.

The self-talk is frightening.

Lee sinful. Yeah. Hey or people people I got. I was in the gym recently and I'm kind of walking around in the gym. I'm getting ready to kind of go up to a machine and use it and I noticed out of the corner of my eye.

There's a guy on the machine and I'm like, it's no problem. He'll let me work in or he'll be done by the time I get there. I get to the machine and he's on his phone. He's on his phone. He's using his phone and I just asked him.

I said, hey, man. I said, uh, can I work in can I get a set in and he looks back at me? He goes. I'm using this right now and then he looks back down on his phone. He's on snapchat and I about snapped his chat right there on the spot and in that moment in that moment.

I was like Yeah.

You see I Think of like Jesus's Sermon on the Mount. There's Portions of the Sermon on the Mount that might apply here to Perry. Noble, you know, he was about to snap his chat. It sounds like he was gonna get violent on him or something.

Yeah, that that Sounds sinful. Dude. Did you repent of it? I.

Hate this guy. No, I don't really hate him. I don't even really know his name, but yeah.

Yes, he's just hang on a second here. I Just hate. I'm gonna look up hate and I'm gonna look it up in the New Testament here it is Matthew 5 Particularly verse 43 and yeah, I'm pretty sure what we're watching listening to here is sinful on the part of Perry noble and Here's what Jesus said.

It's in red letters. Yeah, Jesus said these things. You have heard it said you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. I don't know who said the hate your enemy part. I mean, I don't remember that one in the Bible.

But anyway, so Jesus said but I say to you love your enemies pray for those who purchase persecute you so that you may be sons of your father who is in heaven or he makes the Sun rise on the evil and on the The in the good and sends the rain on the just and the unjust if if for if you love those who love you.

What reward do you have do not even the tax collectors? Do that, okay, so that's one example from the Sermon on the Mount Jesus talking about loving your enemies and and so you kind of get the idea that something's a little bit off here as far as what.

What it is that he's teaching I was gonna look up another word I'll have to do this later, but I think you kind of get the idea that you know Murder, that's the that's the word. I should look up in the In the Sermon on the Mount you've heard it said that it was said of old you shall not murder.

Whoever murders will be liable to judgment. That's Matthew 5 21. But Jesus says I say to every one of you who is angry with his brother that he'll be liable to judgment. Whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council whoever says to his brother.

You fool will be liable to the hell of fire. Yeah. So it's just you know just a little interesting that you know the Self-restored Perry Noble is Exuding the very things that Jesus says would cause somebody to come into judgment.

Maybe even go to hell, you know.

Jesus’ Teaching on Loving Enemies and Anger

Okay, all experience that with people places and things. I hate this person. I hate this place. I hate this thing and. That's what that's why we're talking about this series called a haters. Hey haters.

Because to be very honest with you out of all of my haters and we all have haters. We're not looking for approval from you.

The person. That I've discovered it. It's so apparently, you know when when somebody sends him the link to this video, you know. He'll just dismiss it, you know. Because I've been one of Perry Nobles haters.

For a really long time now more than a decade. Yeah.

Haters. Because to be very honest with you out of all of my haters and we all have haters. The person that I've discovered it. Who's my biggest hater? Yeah, it's me, but it's not about you. Hmm. All of us have probably wrestled with this thing called self-hate at some point in our lives.

I once had a therapist tell me.

See. Just you know, I'm saying that he thinks that what he's describing is some kind of universal thing. Yeah, it ain't you know, cuz I don't relate to any of the things he's actually saying right here.

So so he's now gonna talk to to you about it and at time.

You know, he was talking to his therapist. Sermon prep time for him. Apparently if you talked to other people the way you talk to yourself. You would have no friends. I.

Deserve good thing. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I refuse to beat myself up. I am an attractive person and.

You know, he was right. I do have a tendency to do some negative self-talk and all of us all of us if we're honest.

So this is a sermon where the problem is Negative self-talk. Why?

Because this therapist taught him this concept. Mm-hmm. Have that tendency as well. So in this series called haters I'm gonna talk about What is what why we hate ourselves. Many times. And then how do we over?

I'm pretty sure the general problem of humanity is.

An overt and sinful love for yourself.

But what do I know. I'm that now. The reason I think it's important is Because if we don't get past this thing called self-hate it really can't hold us back in our walk with Jesus we.

So, okay. So the premise is that if we don't get past this self-hate thing, we got to get past it folks. You got to get past the self-hate thing. Yeah, if you don't it's gonna really impact your walk with Jesus.

So I mean immediately, you know, my interest is piqued. I'd like to know which biblical text is he going to use to demonstrate examples of you know people who are whose walk with Jesus was stunted due to.

You know negative self-talk and self-hatred.

Let's see where he goes. The series several months back. And so I won't recap the whole story, but basically Peter and Jesus get in a boat. They go out and Jesus has put your nets out for a catch and Peter says because you say so I will he puts his Nets down.

They catch a bunch of fish. And the Bible says this. And and Jesus. Jesus was asking Peter You know I want you to follow me. And the Bible says this in Luke chapter 5 verse 8 when Simon Peter Peter realized what had happened He fell to his knees before Jesus and said Oh Lord Please leave me I'm such a sinful man.

So, you know, I just have to ask the question. So saying to Jesus, you know, Lord, I am so sinful. Please Forgive me or please leave my presence. So this is a salient example of Peter his relationship with Jesus clearly is Stuck in the mud here and the reason it's stuck in the mud.

Well it's because of his negative self-talk I Mean you can't make this up. I mean, this is just. Well, it's insane what we're listening to. Let's take a look our three rules three rules for sound biblical exegesis are context context and Context those are the three rules.

So let's take a look. Let's see if if there's any rebuke here from Jesus about you know. Talking himself down and and Jesus sitting there going. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa there Peter, man, dude I mean, this is really negatively impacting our relationship, you know.

I mean, I want your walk with me to really shine and so we got to put this negative self-talk stuff away. You know, so let's take a look and see what really happens here on one occasion while the crowd was pressing in on Jesus To hear the Word of God.

He was standing by the Lake of Genezer which by the way is the Sea of Galilee and he saw two boats by the lake. But the fishermen had gone out of them and were washing their nets getting into one of the boats, which was Simon's.

Jesus asked him to put out a little from the land and he sat down and taught the people from the boat and when he had finished Speaking he said to Simon put out into the deep let down your nets for a catch.

Simon answered master. We've toiled all night. We and we took nothing but at your word I'll let down the nets and so when they had done this they enclosed a large number of fish their nets were breaking.

They signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them and they came and filled both the boats. So that they began to sink. But when Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus's knees saying depart from me for I am a sinful man.

Oh Lord. For he and all who were with him were astonished at the catch of fish that they had taken now you know so the miracle makes Peter realize Jesus really is a holy man. He's really something. He's super duper close with God.

He doesn't quite know how close at this point. But immediately he turns to his own sin and says Lord depart from me. I am a sinful man. So he's come undone. Now here's Jesus's response, are you ready?

So Jesus said to him Do not be afraid. From now on you'll be catching men and when they had brought their boats to land. They left everything and They followed Jesus now, you're gonna note then. Whoa, wait a second here all the self-talk that Peter engaged in Literally led to like a super-duper deep relationship with Jesus his walk with Jesus like Just took off from that point forward.

Hmm, you know, I I thought Perry Noble was saying that you know negative self-talk would result in you know Impeding our relationship with Jesus. Do you get the feeling that Perry Noble is twisting this text from Luke 5?

I I do. Yeah, I really do but we continue right here. We see an indication of self-hate or strong dislike at least and because of that.

How about us? This is an example of you know, maybe Peter confessing his sins. Why don't we go with that one? Here's a cross-reference first John first John Chapter 1 first John chapter 1 tail end of first John.

Here's what it says. It's highlighted there. If we say we have no sin We deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us if we confess our sins. He that's referring to God. God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say we have not sinned we make him out to be a liar. And his word is not in us. Hmm. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Luke 5 8 is not an example of Self-hate you see he's Perry Noble here is interpreting this text through his therapy Therapists lens.

No, this isn't self-hate. This is a confession of sin. Which in Scripture that's a good thing to do to confess your sins to God and confess your sinfulness. That's a good thing and you'll note that like I already pointed out from the context Peter's relationship with Jesus just took off from that point on.

Because of self-hate Peter who's standing right in front of Jesus wants Jesus to walk away. He almost misses an opportunity because he can't get past who he is. The Apostle Paul who wrote most of the New Testament wrote this phrase in the book of Romans Chapter 7 verse 24 what a wretched man I am and one of the most honest.

Paul’s Lament in Romans 7 and the Claim of Simul Justus et Peccator

No.

Ripped right out of context there. So Paul saying I'm a wretched man. This is this negative self-talk here, man. Oh, man, doesn't Paul understand if he keeps this up his relationship with Jesus just gonna take.

No, that's not what's going on there in Romans chapter 7. Three rules for sound biblical exegesis are context and context and Context so yeah, this one's a little bit interesting. This is the passage of Scripture that teaches that we are simul justus et picator.

That's a Latin phrase, which means simultaneously justified before God and righteous forgiven at the same time. So Paul talking about his state as a Christian this is all in the present tense is talking about kind of the role of the law and its impact on his life in.

Yeah in in ways that you would not expect but which are absolutely true. So Paul talking about the law in Romans 7 13 says well did that which is good then bring death to me? Yeah by no means it was sin that was producing death in me.

Through what is good in order that sin might be shown to be sin and through the commandment might become sinful beyond Measure for we know that the law is spiritual. But I am of the flesh. I'm sold under sin.

I don't know. I don't understand my own actions. I do not do what I want, but I do the very things I hate now. If I do what I do not want I agree with the law that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it.

It's sin that dwells within me for I know that nothing good dwells in me. That is in my flesh for I have the desire to do what's right. Not the ability to carry it out. I do not do the good I want but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing now if I do not do what I if I do what I do Not want it is no longer I you do it.

It's sin that is dwelling within me. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right evil lies close at hand for I delight in the law of God in my inner being but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and Making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.

Oh Wretched man that I am who will deliver me from this body of death. Now watch the next verse. Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I myself I serve the law of God with my mind and with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

But there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus for the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ from the law of sin and death so yeah Paul's lament in Romans 7 24 is not an example of self-hate but negative self-talk that was you know.

Definitely messing up his relationship with Jesus far from it.

Impactful transparent passages in the Bible. Paul says what a Wretched man I am and there's a lot of people that when we look in the mirror We don't like who we see in this particular case.

Paul's look in the mirror and of God's law and Seeing that the reflection came back in bold print.

Sinner. Mm-hmm. So before we talk about how to deal with self-hate let's talk about some of the Reasons for self-hate. If you're taking notes write this down. If you're not taking notes write that.

Comparison, Coveting, and the Misuse of Scripture

Why?

Why would I take notes on this therapeutic pablum? That's masquerading as Christianity down number one comparison.

Comparison. Comparison. Now I am the world's worst at at this. At comparison. Like for example, let's say we're taking a trip from Anderson to Atlanta typically. It's going to take two hours give or take you know depending on traffic.

But the address that we're coming from in Atlanta or Anderson to Atlanta. Let's say you put it in the GPS and it says two hours and eight minutes. Here's just here's here's where I live. If I don't beat two hours and eight minutes I'm depressed for the rest of the day.

Like if you're in my car and you.

That sounds Immature childish kind of creepy to me. How to pee.

Sucks to be you. Because we're gonna we're gonna beat two hours and eight minutes and here's what's really horrible if we make it. Like two hours in five minutes, then the next time I go I got to make it in two hours and three minutes.

I'm always always always comparing now. We we do that one kind of laugh at that story and it's kind of funny. And how many of you know.

It's really kind of messed up. Because you know, I mean logistically here at you know, you're gonna be like breaking the law a lot. Like, you know with each successive trip, you're gonna have to like, you know.

The posted speed limit 65 you're driving 75 eventually got to be driving 80 in the 90. Yeah, this this.

Mm-hmm that by the way anybody in this. Okay lots of people in this room a lot of people. Probably watching online, too. Here's the here's reality though when it comes to comparison. It's different when we're looking at GPS, but oftentimes we compare ourselves.

Maybe to other people. Now you can tell people that I can't believe I'm sharing this story.

Yeah, you familiar with the Commandments against coveting? Yeah, it's actually part of the Ten Commandments, you know, so the self comparison thing usually leads to all kinds of terrible stuff, but you thou shalt not cover your neighbor's wife or his man servant or his Female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor?

Yeah under the big umbrella of coveting. Yeah that talks about the negative kind of and sinful kind of comparison work that you're doing here. But again, I just note this is really creepy and he's twisted up God's Word really awful and turned two great examples of of Apostles who were confessing their sinfulness and need for a Savior into Examples of negative self-talk that in self-loathing that that apparently is supposed to be getting in the way Of their relationship with Jesus.

I'm pretty sure Perry Noble doesn't know what he's talking about at all. And this is why we don't do therapy time as sermon preparation time just saying So did you find this helpful? If so Please share it with other people all the information on how to share it is down below in the description of the video.

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