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- Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Rosebro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ.
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- This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. So, let me ask you this question up front.
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- What exactly is the purpose of today's so -called modern prophecies?
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- Because quite frankly, I can do pretty well without them. In fact, I've noted they're quite worthless, quite worthless.
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- Yeah, in fact, if you've watched this channel and you've noted that the prophecies that are being spewed today as words of the
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- Lord and you've noticed that they don't mean anything, go ahead and hit the subscribe button down below.
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- Don't forget to like the video, ring the bell, and all that YouTube goodness. We're going to look at three examples today of fresh, fresh prophecies and just ask ourselves the question, why on earth should we believe this is from God?
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- And how is this even helpful at all? Yeah, so let me whirl up the desktop here and we'll start by heading over to,
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- I don't know how to pronounce this guy's last name, Steve Ciccolanti, I don't know,
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- I just call him Steve C. This is from Discover Ministries, and this was published on his
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- YouTube channel back on May 15th of this year, and it's a prophetic warning, my dream of three airplanes.
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- Prophetic warning. I mean, so there it is. I mean, he's putting it right there in the title. This is a prophetic warning, and well, let's take a look at this thing and see if we can make heads or tails of it.
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- If you want to print out a prophecy bingo card, you can, you know, it just always kind of makes the point.
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- At no time do we ever restrict you from actually using a prophecy bingo card while watching
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- Fighting for the Faith. You need to know that. And yesterday on social media, somebody asked me if they could have their own house rules.
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- They didn't ask it in exactly that way, and I will note that if you want to play prophecy bingo and work out some of your own house rules, we're just not going to stop that.
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- In fact, we're not even going to discourage it. I mean, when I was a kid playing Monopoly, we had our own house rules too, you know.
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- So yeah, if you want to do that with prophecy bingo, you're welcome. We will not discourage it.
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- And if you find any house rules that are really beneficial for helping me win personally, let me know.
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- I, you know, I'm always looking out for those kinds of things. All right, so heading over to Steve C's Discovery Ministries YouTube channel.
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- Let's take a look at this thing and see if we can make heads or tails of it. Here we go. I had a dream recently that I believe is from the
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- Lord, so I will share this one. Okay, so you had a dream that you believe is from the
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- Lord. Why do you believe it's from the Lord? I just have to ask the question.
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- You know, I have lots of dreams, and I've noted twice now since December, two times on our channel here, that, you know,
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- I had a whopper of a dream where I actually nine hours before they announced the new Pope knew his name, but I don't think it was from God at all.
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- And, you know, in fact, because of the fact that I was scratching my head wondering if it was from God, in my book it basically says, yeah,
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- God doesn't send mail without a return address. You know, that's not how that works, so, you know, just dismissed it out of hand as a temptation from the devil.
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- So my question is, why should we believe? What was the tipping point for you,
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- Steve, that this was definitely from God? Oh, you know, so you've had a dream.
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- How do you know it wasn't bad anchovies on your pizza? Which, by the way, anchovies are spectacular.
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- Love anchovies. I've said it before. I'll keep saying it. Love anchovies. Anyway, so, I mean, so I believe this one is from the
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- Lord. Do you take it to the public when there's 50 % certainty, 75, 80, 90, and how does one because at this point, because you've said this is from God, you know, if I challenge this, then
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- I'm not challenging you, Steve, I'm challenging God. Yeah, okay, let's keep going here.
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- I was on an airplane, and when we got to a high altitude, the airplane shut off, went off, like the electricity went off, and then the thing just fell down like a rock.
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- Now, when it fell, I wasn't in the airplane. I was still up above looking at it, but I looked at the plane falling like a rock, and it hit water, and funny enough, it didn't get destroyed.
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- It just hit the water. Then I think it was the same plane again. We went up again, and the second time, the same thing happened, and the electricity went off, and then it started falling, and it fell like a rock.
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- Now, this time, the second time, I'm thinking, I've got my science hat on even in the dream, and I'm thinking, wait a second, even if you shut off a plane, so what?
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- The plane should be able to glide, but it did not glide. It fell like a rock down to the bottom, but funny enough, sure enough, again,
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- I wasn't in the plane. I was looking at it, and the plane fell straight down into water, and it didn't break into pieces, but it certainly had a crash.
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- And you think this is from God? Why? So I thought, you know, we've got to figure out what's going on with this plane, because...
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- We've got to figure out what's going wrong with your theology, man. We take this plane up again, and it happens again, it's not going to be good.
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- So third time, this plane was flying, I was in it, and I said, we've got to find out what's going on here.
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- What is causing this to happen? And we found out, it wasn't me personally,
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- I'm kind of a bystander. So you didn't cause the planes to fall,
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- I mean, it is a dream. I feel like I'm observing it, but somebody found out that there was an air hostess, or what you would call a flight attendant today, who plugged in her shaver.
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- And then we flew off to the land of unicorns and Care Bears. Okay, so air hostess plugged in her electric shaver, that caused the plane to catastrophically malfunction rather than glide and fall like a rock.
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- You are sure this is from God? What's your certainty level on this?
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- Plugged in a shaver, electric shaver, into the airplane, and for some reason, this airplane had not been equipped,
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- I guess, to handle this electric shaver. And when she does that, the whole thing shuts down again, and it doesn't just glide down, it fell like a rock to the bottom.
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- Now, Steve C. believes this is from God, which means that he's releasing this word from God. So he glows in the dark, he's had a prophetic activation of some kind, and God, this goes all the way up to the top, man,
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- I mean, to the Trinity himself, God wants you to know this. And again,
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- I'm just going, why? What benefit is there for me to know this?
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- Again, I wasn't in the airplane, I was quite safe, and looking down at the airplane, I thought, well, I don't think people died, and I don't think the plane was destroyed.
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- And when I woke up, I asked the Lord, what does that mean? If you know dream language, there are certain repetitions and patterns, and so...
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- If I know dream language, that's a language? Dream is a language.
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- Where does it say dream is a language in Scripture? So, generally speaking, these patterns hold, but, you know, it could have...
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- Oh, I see. He's promoting a book he wrote, The Dream Code, by Steve C.,
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- at discover .org .au .shop. Ah, I see, okay, so it's convenient here that you just have happened to have written a book called
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- Dream Code, so that you can help us unpack what our dreams mean, so we can decipher the code, and we can try to figure out what it is that God's telling us.
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- A specific meaning that will be revealed later, and I'm fine with that, but let's just go with what's generally acceptable.
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- Any vehicle... Okay, I'm backing this up. What's generally acceptable? Since when is dream language or dream code considered part of Christian orthodoxy?
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- This is weird. So, listen again to what he says here, because he's claiming some kind of conservative ground here, that dream code or dream language...
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- Oh, yeah, it's, you know, Christian orthodoxy has accepted this for millennia, man.
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- Everybody knows this. Yeah. You know, it could have a specific meaning that will be revealed later, and I'm fine with that, but let's just go with what's generally acceptable.
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- Any vehicle generally is a metaphor or a symbol of your career or your ministry.
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- And which biblical text reveals that part of the dream code, that a vehicle reveals ministry or something?
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- So, a bus, depending on what you do for a living, but a bus, a van, a car, a boat, a plane.
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- And this is generally accepted by whom? Now, this case, this plane was a big plane.
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- So, this was not my plane. I was an observant in it, an observer in this plane.
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- So, I think that my initial interpretation, my initial understanding of this dream is that a lot of the megachurches during the coronavirus are going to be suffering.
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- I'm not even a prophet, and I can tell you that. I mean, I've been watching how the megachurches have been performing during the pandemic and lockup and stuff like that, and it's just been awkward.
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- So, really. So, released on May 15th. I mean, I've noted this, that the seeker -driven churches have been suffering, you know, for what, months now?
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- At least two? And again, I'm not a prophet. I'm just a careful observer, and it's like anybody who can surf into a
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- YouTube channel for a megachurch can sit there and go, yeah, I think they may be hurting a little bit.
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- But after all, I haven't purchased Steve C's dream code book, you know?
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- They got big and they got high, but they will come crashing down.
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- Yeah, I don't think so. I really do not think that the pandemic is going to mean the end of the megachurches.
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- Yeah, again, why should I think this is from God? Now, let's think for a second here, all right? If this were true, all right?
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- If this were true, what exactly is the function it's going to take? For me or the body of Christ?
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- Oh, wow, we've got the end of the megachurches coming. We better do what? How does one prepare for the end of the megachurches?
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- Again, it just doesn't even sound right. Yeah, do you think that Lakewood is going to shutter its doors?
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- Do you think that Saddleback is going to declare bankruptcy and just disappear? I don't think so.
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- They cannot just even glide. They're not going to glide down. They're going to fall like a rock.
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- No one's going to die. People are not going to have to lose their faith. Again, why should
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- I think this is from God? But through the coronavirus, a lot of people are realizing small is good.
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- Even medium is good. But being big does not necessarily mean it's the best.
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- And there are a lot of carnal Christians who think that because their church is bigger, that they are somehow better.
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- And do you think that those people who you say are carnal Christians, and I'm not going to disagree with you here, that they're going to go, oh man, we're carnal
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- Christians. We got to go find a smaller church. You think that's what's going to happen? This has got to end.
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- This wrong concept of God's kingdom is coming.
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- By the way, I'm one of the harshest critics of the whole Seeker -Driven Movement, have been since its inception.
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- And yeah, I don't see any reason to believe this is from God.
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- And again, in order to know that this is from God, I have to buy his book, the Dream Code book. Oh yeah, here's his
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- Dream Code, which is standard stuff, man. I mean, well accepted. I mean, even in conservative circles,
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- Dream Code stuff. Yeah, and so, yeah, it's kind of weird.
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- All right, let's check in with another one. This one is going to require a little bit of reading. All right, so this is from Destiny Image Publishing, Jeremiah Johnson.
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- Jeremiah Johnson, the headline reads, Two angels in a broom, what could this vision mean?
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- It means you ate bad pizza. It means you're not hearing from God. It means that you've exalted your imagination and what you think are visions from God to the same level as the scriptures.
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- All right, so let's see here. At the end of December 2018, Jeremiah Johnson says,
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- I spoke at a prophetic conference with John and Carol Arnot. Yeah, is that supposed to impress me?
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- It just shows to me you don't have any biblical discernment and you can't tell a heretic when you see one. All right, so Daniel Kalenda and other trusted leaders in the charismatic movement.
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- Why are they trusted? Yeah, we were invited to share what we saw
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- God doing in the body of Christ at large. All right, okay.
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- So, upon arrival, I headed straight for bed so I could get some rest and prepare for the days of ministry ahead.
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- As I lay in deep sleep, two angels came and visited me in my hotel room. Was one of them named the angel
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- Moroni? I've heard this before. Anyway, so one angel had fiery blue eyes and held a huge broom in his hands.
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- And I instantly knew him to be an angel of cleansing. So, apparently, angels of cleansing have blue eyes and push a broom.
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- And the other was an angel of glory clothed in breathtakingly beautiful garments. Many of the colors in those garments
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- I have no name for. I have never seen these colors here on earth. So the angel of cleansing spoke first.
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- If the church was going to be visited by the angel of glory, she must first receive the angel of cleansing.
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- So, immediately, I just have to ask the question, how does one exactly go about receiving the angel of cleansing?
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- Do you put a mark on your door? Do you send an email? Yeah, angelofcleansingatheaven .com
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- or is it .org or . . . I don't know. Yeah, if you get the email address wrong, it's hard to say.
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- Do you make an appointment with . . . is there an app that I can say, I would like to receive the angel of cleansing?
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- So, in other words, the visitation of the second angel was contingent upon the church's reception of the visitation of the first.
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- Oh, no. Oh, no. God wants to send the angel of glory, but the whole church, man.
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- We need to accept the angel of cleansing first. Mm -hmm. So, when I asked what that meant, the angel of cleansing responded and said,
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- God will not fill his house with his glory until his house receives the cleansing and purification he desires to bring.
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- Is this some kind of doctrine of purgatory here? So, the churches must experience purgatory by the angel of cleansing before the glory angel will .
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- . . because God won't send glory, you know, until cleansing has come first. Again, the theology on this is like way off, and my question is, why should
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- I believe that this is from God? All right. So, too many are chasing the glory and they will never see it, the angel continued, for the lack of demonstration of glory in the church is a direct result of the lack of consecration.
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- So, how does one exactly experience cleansing and consecration as a church?
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- So, watch for many will cry out for glory and they'll never see it because they refuse to consecrate themselves to the
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- Holy One of Israel. Okay, can you tell me how that's done today? How does one go about consecrating themselves?
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- All right. So, however, also watch for the remnant who will consecrate themselves and seek the face of God like never before.
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- And where the visitation of the cleansing is received is a sign to you that the glory will come.
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- Remember, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, read Ezekiel 44. So, the broom in the upper room.
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- So, after sleeping the rest of the night, I awoke the following morning with the tangible presence of God filling my room, and I immediately recognized that this encounter was setting the trajectory of my life and ministry for the years ahead.
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- Okay. So, I asked God specifically about the large broom that was in the hands of the angel of cleansing and God replied.
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- So, you know, he has like direct revelation from God, direct hearing from God.
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- So, immediately a great expectancy, which I think is a prophecy, bingo word, and sobriety filled me.
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- The great glory and the upper room encounters of Act 2 were clearly going to mark God's church in the days ahead.
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- Yeah, Acts 2 is not a repeatable pattern for anything coming in the future, let's see, in the days ahead, but it would be preceded by deep cleansing and purification.
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- You know, we got to clean the grout and stuff, apparently. A sweeping of the broom of cleansing, the church must be prepared to receive and respond to this cleansing.
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- So, the next day I had the opportunity to share my angelic encounter with Carol Arnot, and to my surprise, she had received a very similar visitation.
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- This is the lady who taught people how to soak using Mr. Sponge, all right?
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- And you think for a second that I believe that God's talking to this lady? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- By the way, if you haven't seen our video of Carol Arnot teaching on Mr. Sponge, I would, yeah, we'll put a, hang on a second, yeah, there, we'll put a link to Mr.
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- Sponge. You got to watch this, if you haven't seen Carol Arnot teaching about Mr. Sponge.
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- Yeah, it is quite eye -opening, and I'm supposed to believe this woman's hearing from God, too. All right, so she received a similar vision.
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- Oh, wow, well, that proves it's true, you know? And a very similar vision had drastically marked her life.
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- So in her dream, as she stood in the front of the church, a whirlwind caught her up to the ceiling of the building, and God brought her back down to the floor.
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- Something like a heavy cloak was placed upon her, and God gave her a word for the people, saying, there's another cloud, a cloud of holiness.
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- It will not be a cloud of outward good behavior holiness, but it'll be a cloud of my holiness, the reverent fear of the
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- Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom. And so you're going to note here that what we're hearing from these people is nonsense.
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- It's, I mean, here's the thing. What is it that cleanses
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- Christians? Is it that they consecrate themselves, or are we made holy by the blood of Christ, by His death,
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- His resurrection, His ascension into heaven for our justification? You see,
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- Christians are clothed with the righteousness of God, and so if you're really a
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- Christian, if you're really a Christian, you have the righteousness of Christ, and so what is this call for, you got to consecrate yourself, you got to accept.
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- Do I accept the angel of cleansing into my heart, into my church? How do I do this?
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- So there's glory coming, and you'll be able to tell the people who invited the angel of cleansing in when
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- Scripture doesn't tell us that we are cleansed from our sins and made holy by an angel of cleansing.
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- You kind of get what I'm saying here. This is weird. So, you know, yeah, and I'm going to point this out at this point as well.
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- When I was in the charismatic movement, yeah, we were told that the bride of Christ has to cleanse herself before Jesus returns, and so, you know, we were always told we got to cleanse, we got to cleanse ourselves, we got to take our bridal gown and make it white, and we got to clean it up, we got to get the derrit off it, we got to, we got to, we got to, and it's some kind of vague, unspecific concept of holiness or anything like that.
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- There's nothing biblical about it. There's no real call to repentance. There's no preaching of Christ for the forgiveness of our sins.
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- There's no preaching of the imputed righteousness of Christ, which is given to us by grace through faith, and there's no ongoing discussion at all regarding mortifying and putting to death what sinful within us.
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- Instead, oh, and you're going to note here, what's the carrot now in this prophecy regarding cleansing?
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- Well, you want to see glory, don't you? Yeah, I want to see glory. I want to see glory. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- Oh, well, if you want to see glory, you got to clean your room first. I don't want to clean my room.
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- Well, then no glory for you. Again, this is really weird.
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- So, by way of reminder, let me review what it actually says in Jeremiah 23 regarding false prophets.
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- Thus says Yahweh, the God of hosts, the God of armies, do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes.
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- They speak visions of their own minds. Not from the mouth of Yahweh.
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- For they say continually to those who despise the word of the Lord, it shall be well with you. And to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, no disaster shall come upon you.
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- For who among them has stood in the counsel of Yahweh to see and to hear his word or who has paid attention to his word and listen?
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- Behold, the storm of Yahweh, wrath has gone forth, a whirling tempest. It'll burst upon the head of the wicked and the anger of the
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- Lord will not turn back until he has executed and accomplished the intents of his heart. In the latter days, you will understand it clearly.
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- I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and they would have turned them from their evil way and from the evil of their deeds.
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- And so you'll note, real prophecy, for real, is done when somebody has real words from God.
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- So where do I go to find real words from God? The Bible, okay?
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- These are real words from God. And you'll note that the call of Scripture, the call of the New Testament, the call of the apostles like Peter and Paul and others is to repent and to be forgiven and the good news that Christ has bled and died for all of our sins, including our idolatry, including our blasphemies, all these things
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- God has bled, Christ has bled and died for. And so, and then we're to call people to turn away from their evil.
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- But some weird, well, you know, if you want glory, you know, you want glory, don't you?
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- Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, then you need to invite the angel of cleansing in. That's not the same as turning people from their evil, by the way, not even close.
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- So God goes on and says, am I a God at hand, declares Yahweh, not a God far away. Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him, declares
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- Yahweh? Do I not fill heaven and earth, declares Yahweh? I've heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in my name saying
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- I have dreamed, I have dreamed. Yeah, you'll note that that seems to be a theme with Steve C.
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- and Jeremiah Johnson. Oh, I had a dream. I had a dream. It had to be the Lord. Why should I think this is the
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- Lord? Because the theology in both of these things is bad. Really bad.
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- All right. So, and by the way, you know, Jeremiah Johnson, since he can't tell that, you know,
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- Carol and John or not are like flat out false teachers, false prophets and heretics, why would
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- God speak to him and to Carol or not at the same time and give them similar things?
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- You know, because if that was God the Holy Spirit speaking, then God the Holy Spirit is sending people to false teachers and false prophets, which makes no sense.
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- Okay, so instead, it's just, you know, these are people who are prophesying the deceit of their own heart.
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- You think that to make people forget my name by their dreams that they tell one another, even as their fathers forgot my name for Baal.
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- And so, you note here, all these prophecies are in the name of Jesus, in the name of the one true God. But what do they take us away from?
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- The actual word of God. So, let the prophet who has a dream tell the dream, but let him who has my word speak my word faithfully.
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- Oh, and we have God's word. It's called the Bible, right? So, what is straw in common with wheat, declares
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- Yahweh. Is not my word like fire, declares Yahweh, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces.
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- Therefore, behold, I'm against the prophet, declares the Lord, who steal my words from one another. Behold, I am against the prophets, declares the
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- Lord, who use their tongues and declare, declares the Lord. Behold, I'm against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares
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- Yahweh, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness.
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- And I would say, just presuming that that weird dream you had is a message from God and then broadcasting it to the world, either as on a
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- YouTube channel or in print, saying this is, well, what God is saying right now, that's reckless.
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- Because again, my question is, why should I believe that this is a true word? Who confirmed that this is an actual word from God before they spread it to the world saying it's a word from God?
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- In fact, if you were to think about it, because of all the warnings out there regarding false prophets and false, you know, and people deceiving, you know, and these are warnings found not only in the
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- Old Testament, but also in the New. We'll take a look at an example of that in a minute. Anybody claiming to have direct revelation from God today, we need to immediately quarantine them and their message, assuming that it potentially is from the devil or that these people are deceivers.
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- And you have to give them a good IRS -type audit of their life and their doctrine and all of that before you even will hear the so -called word from God.
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- And if they can't pass the theological and moral audit, then you can dismiss them out of hand.
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- But again, my question is, why is it the destiny image? Why is it that Steve C.,
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- so recklessly, without verification at all,
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- I mean valid verification at all, are releasing these words, you know, saying that this is what
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- God is saying? Scripture says this is recklessness. They lead my people astray by their lies, and they're reckless when
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- I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares
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- Yahweh. And we'll note that, you know, these false prophets, they don't profit the church at all.
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- It, you know, could I do without the so -called prophecy of the collapse of the megachurches?
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- Of course! It's not going to change my life one bit, all right? And not only that,
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- I just think it's naive and silly to think that the megachurches are going to collapse. They're not. Some might, but the whole movement?
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- No, that's not going to happen. People go to these things not to hear the truth, they go to these things to have their ears scratched.
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- So the idea then is the megachurches are always going to have a big market need, because we live in the times when people will do not endure sound doctrine, but have gathered to themselves teachers who will tell them what their itching ears want to hear.
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- And so they're going to continue to reward these people, you know, who are telling them what they want to hear, you know, until Jesus returns.
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- That's part of the, you know, the apostasy that's been prophesied regarding the end. Now, one more bit
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- I wanted to show you in 2 Peter. Peter himself, as he's getting ready to go to his death,
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- I point this out with some regularity, always good to review it, that as Peter's getting ready to go to his death, this is the last letter he writes before he's crucified upside down.
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- Takes him three days to die, by the way. And Peter, as he's getting ready to finish his course, what does he point people to?
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- To dreams, to visions, to experiences, ecstatic utterances, and things like that?
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- No, not at all. He points them to the written Word. And so Peter says this,
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- We did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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- We were eyewitnesses of his majesty. And you're going to note here that when it comes to eyewitnesses like this, there were many people who were eyewitnesses to the majesty of Christ.
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- Not only in the resurrection, but that Jesus took Peter, James, and John, three. There were three witnesses on the
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- Mount of Transfiguration. So he was an eyewitness of the majestic glory. And so then the voice was born to him from the majestic glory, saying,
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- This is my beloved Son with whom I am well pleased. We ourselves, let's see, we were with him on the holy mountain, and we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
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- So you'll note here, as Peter's getting ready to die, he doesn't say, And you know, I was an eyewitness of the glory of Christ on the
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- Mount of Transfiguration. I heard the voice of the Father. And so seek after these visions, and you too, if you invite the angel of cleansing into your life, then you can experience this kind of glory yourself.
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- No, far from it. He says, We have the prophetic word more fully confirmed.
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- And what prophetic word is that? Well, it's a prophetic word that we would do well to pay attention to as a lamp shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star rises in our hearts.
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- Knowing this, that first of all, no prophecy of graphis, of scripture, comes from someone's own interpretation.
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- No prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the
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- Holy Spirit. So Peter, as he's getting ready to die, what's he pointing people to? The Bible. Paul did the same thing.
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- Second Timothy, his last letter, he's telling Timothy to preach the word and to pay attention to the scriptures, which are able to make you wise to salvation and equip you for every good work.
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- So the best way I can put it, Jesus confirmed that the Old Testament that we have, that that's the
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- Word of God. Jesus quotes Moses authoritatively and says that this is the
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- Word of God. He does the same regarding the histories as well as the prophets of the Old Testament, and so we've got
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- Jesus' stamp of approval on that body of work known as the Tanakh. And so Jesus then, he gives his apostles a promise that the
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- Holy Spirit would be able to bring to mind all the things that he's said and taught, and so they record for us the life, the work, the ministry of Jesus Christ in the four
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- Gospels, and then give us the proper understanding of the theology that's found in all of Scripture, including the
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- Gospels, in the epistles, and then winding up his course, Peter points us to the written
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- Word, the written Word. So this is a Word from God. The Church has embraced this, these words from God, and said, we know this is from God.
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- But you'll note that within the charismatic movement, I mean, I could have a dream last night and go, well,
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- I'm confident that was from the Lord, so I'll go ahead and release it. It's nuts.
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- It's nuts. But I mean, you just put a little bit of scrutiny on it. You apply a little bit of biblical comparison, and the whole thing comes crumbling down, or is completely veiled in doubt.
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- Why should I believe that Steve Sea had a vision regarding the collapse of the megachurch movement, or that Jeremiah Johnson had an encounter with the cleansing angel and the angel of glory?
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- Yeah, when he's pointing me to John and Carol are not as solid prophets who hear from God.
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- No, they're not. You get the idea. So all of that being said, let's come back here and we'll just do one more example.
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- Lana Vosser is at it again, and this is Coffee with Jesus and her latest prophetic release.
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- Why should I believe this is from God? I don't think I should, but she's going to, this is called
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- Know the Season. That's what it's called. Hi, guys. Welcome to Coffee with Jesus.
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- It is great to have you here with me today. Whether you're here for the first time or you have joined me on the journey of Coffee with Jesus, I extend a huge, huge welcome to you.
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- It is just so wonderful. So she's got a lion, a sword, and a candle and coffee. And what books are on her?
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- What are those books? Hang on a second here. I'm curious about that. Patricia King, Rick Joyner.
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- I know. Yeah, no. See, already we couldn't say this woman's not hearing from God and she's not having
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- Coffee with Jesus either. I don't, you know. To have you here. So today
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- I have a word to share with you, which I believe is a word of positioning. You may have.
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- So what is a positioning word exactly? Can you give me an example of a positioning word from one of the
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- Old Testament prophets? Read in prophetic words that I have released or in Coffee with Jesus episodes, you may have seen these themes that continue to be repeated in different ways over the last.
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- Just so you know, this was released on May 25th. So this is as fresh as fresh gets.
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- Gosh, probably a year or so. And I believe right now that the Lord has been speaking these specific words of positioning for a significant amount of time because out of his amazing.
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- Why didn't the Lord release positioning words prior to the pandemic? None of the prophets got it.
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- None of them saw it coming. Relentless love. He is wanting us as the church to be in right alignment with him.
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- Aren't Christians already in right alignment with God? Because of what
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- Christ has done for us in bleeding and dying for our sins and cleansing us from all unrighteousness.
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- Aren't we already in right alignment? He is wanting us to be in the place where we are perfectly positioned to run with him and to build with him.
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- What does it mean to be perfectly positioned to run with Jesus?
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- I don't even know what that looks like. And the last time I got in a position to run,
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- I weighed significantly less than I do now. In fact, I'm pretty sure if I got into a running position today, you'd be calling an ambulance shortly, you know, after I got into that position.
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- And to move at the pace of his spirit and at the beat of his heart.
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- So what exactly is the pace of God's spirit? And what is the beat of his heart?
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- What do these words mean? So as we started this crazy time in the earth, however many months ago, as we saw
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- COVID -19 begin to spread across the entire globe. Here we saw nations shutting down.
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- We saw all of us being sent back into our homes. It's like the world went into a pause.
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- And in that moment, the Lord spoke to me that there was a Selah moment.
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- Really? Really? So the Lord has declared our time in quarantine to be a
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- Selah moment. Released on May 25th.
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- How come in February, back in February, nobody was saying, the
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- Lord is going to send us into a Selah moment. But now after the fact, hindsight being 2020, that whole time, that whole world, that was a
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- Selah moment. Thus sayeth the Lord. Again, this is the cows already left the barn.
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- The horses have fled. They're over the hill. You know, what is this? Upon the church right now to come into position.
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- It was a time to withdraw, not in isolation and from not being in relationship with people, but to come away into the secret place with the
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- Lord. Do I have to ask? Where is the secret place? And if you know where it is, it's not a secret.
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- So, you know. And to lay ourselves down before him in surrender and in humility and everything that we have done.
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- What does it mean to lay myself down below before the Lord and surrender? Do I hold my sword up?
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- Do I wave a white flag? How does one go about doing this?
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- And with him up until this point and invite the Holy Spirit to come and to speak to us,
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- God, what are you saying? What is in my life? Rather than asking God, what is he saying?
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- Why don't we ask God what he said? And then, you know, go and look in the Bible. By the way, if you if everyone says, what has
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- God said? It's an open book question. You can like go and look it up. It's in the Bible. That is maybe out of alignment.
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- Is there anything that you're doing in my life right now that I am not aware of that you're inviting me to partner with you in?
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- Are there any? God's inviting me to partner with him. And then
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- I need to ask him about alignment. I usually ask the tire guy when
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- I take my truck in, you know, to check the alignment. What are you talking about?
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- Areas in my heart where my eyes have been distracted, where my heart focus has been on other things other than you.
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- God, is there anywhere in my life where I have idols, where I have put other things before you?
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- And I believe this. Yeah, you know, like false prophecy, idolatry and blasphemy. Selah time has been a time where the
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- Lord has invited us into that place. So after the fact now, I mean, most states here in the
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- United States are opening up. Some haven't quite yet. The Selah time has come and gone.
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- And I missed the invitation. I mean, here in North Dakota, we didn't even really totally shut down.
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- Now, Minnesota did. And so, but Minnesota is already starting to open up, and so I missed the memo that this was a
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- Selah moment and that God was inviting me into it. So after the fact, when, you know, we're normal life, you know, the new normal, whatever it is, has begun,
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- I'm no longer Selah -ing. Is that a right way of talking about it? And so I missed the invitation and stuff.
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- Don't you think if God was inviting me into a Selah moment during the pandemic that he would have invited me going into it rather than coming out of it?
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- Where we have been positioned, if I can say that, for a beautiful divine reset.
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- Where God. Oh, yeah. Reset, by the way, in divine reset. That's those are prophecy bingo buzzwords.
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- God is hitting a reset button, if I can call it that, in the earth to bring divine alignment so that we can.
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- A reset to bring divine alignment. What is divine alignment? Be aligned with him in what he is doing, in what he is saying.
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- And what is he doing and what is he saying? And how does one align with it? How he is moving.
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- And I believe that this Selah time has been very important. And it's been very important how we have stewarded this time of Selah.
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- Did you steward your Selah time well? Or did you mismanage it and poorly steward your
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- Selah? Oh, no. What if I mismanaged my
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- Selah time? Is that a sin? The Lord spoke to me in the midst of the
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- Selah. He said to me, Lana, this isn't a time to be busy building. Does she have glitter on her face?
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- Or is that pixie dust? What is this? Not a time to fill the quiet space, right?
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- How can I say it? The space where the pace has slowed down. The space where the pace has slowed down.
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- To begin to fill it with other things, to stay busy. This is actually a time where I'm calling my people into that place.
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- Now, you said the Lord revealed this to you in the midst of the Selah time. Why are you releasing this at the end of the
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- Selah time? I mean, I understand Australia. They've, you know, they're done now with their pandemic measures.
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- I mean, their Selah time is done in Australia. Of pondering, of reflecting, of sitting before me.
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- Because I actually want to give my people fresh revelation of what is to come.
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- God wants to give me a fresh revelation of things to come. I'm pretty sure if God wanted to do that,
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- He'd just do it. Why do I need you to tell me that God wants to do this?
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- I want to release my secrets to my people. I actually want to give my people.
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- Well, God didn't release the COVID -19 secret to any of His people prior to it showing up.
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- Revelation of what I'm going to do in this new era. And this is a time in this Selah, Lana, where I want to heal my people.
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- He wants to. Well, get on with it then. If God wants to heal people, He should just get to it. I want to deliver my people.
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- Well, then He should just do it. And I want to refresh my people. And I want to strengthen my people.
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- I feel like I'm turning into Shia LaBeouf. Do it! Do it!
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- Do it! So this Selah moment has been a time where God has invited us into that secret place.
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- Why would God invite me to a secret place where I don't even know where it is? Deeper than we ever have.
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- Deeper into the secret space. My prayer is that you and I have really laid our ear upon His chest and use this time.
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- One of the strange things about mysticism, it always gets right up to erotic.
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- Agape love turns into Eros. It's really weird. I ain't putting my ears on Jesus's chest.
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- I'm just saying. It ain't happening. Jesus is not my bearded girlfriend.
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- You know what I mean? So when the mystics start going all Eros on you. Oh, yeah.
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- Describing the love of God or their intimacy with Him in creepy weird ways like this.
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- Yeah, it gives me the heebie -jeebies. So, you know, just saying. Let me back that up just to give me another shudder.
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- Yeah, because one wasn't enough. Has been a time where God has invited us into that secret place deeper than we ever have.
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- And my prayer is that you and I have really laid our ear upon His chest and use this time to really hear what the
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- Spirit of God is saying for our lives. I'm not laying my ear on Jesus's chest to hear what
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- God is going to do in my lives in the season ahead or stuff. No. Into the churches.
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- So now here we are in the natural where we are beginning to see, at least in Australia here, we're beginning to see some restrictions beginning to be lifted.
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- I know it's happening in other nations in various degrees. Yeah. So we're at the end of the sea line.
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- Why is it this was an invitation and stuff? Why did the invitation get sent out so late?
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- You know, like when it's too late. But in the natural, you could look at it and say, God, like, it looks like we're coming out of this time of sealer.
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- And I believe right now that this word that I have to release to you is actually a word of encouragement in moving out.
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- How would this encourage me? It's confusing me. Back into life.
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- Now, do I believe that life is going back to normal? In the natural, cafes will be reopening.
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- Shops will be reopening. Businesses will start to move in and trade again.
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- But I don't believe that as the body of Christ, we are going back to what was. I believe that there has been such a significant shift and crossover.
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- Shift is a prophecy bingo word. Crossover, maybe too. That has happened in the church that we are moving into something completely new.
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- And it is going to be very clear as we move into. Of course, it's going to be clear when we move into it.
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- Why don't you claiming that God's talking to you and he's revealing the secrets of what's ahead, right? Why don't you tell us the details of what's coming then?
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- Why are you talking about the future in such vague and nebulous and misty and undefined ways?
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- This new time of what God is going to do, where we have placed our alignment in this
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- Selah moment. So where have you placed your alignment during the
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- Selah moment that you were invited into after the fact? Again, why should
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- I believe this is from God? There's no reason to believe this is from God. Scripture warns us about this kind of nonsense and deceit.
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- All right, I think you get the point. So let's take that down. So hopefully you found this helpful.
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- So until next time, may God richly bless you in the grace and mercy won by Jesus Christ and His vicarious death on the cross for all of your sins.