Jacksonville Pastor's Conference

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Travel, Teaching Schedule, and the Jacksonville Pastor's Conference

And good afternoon. Welcome to the dividing line on a Thursday afternoon unusual time because I am safely ensconced in Owensboro, Kentucky where I am lecturing for the Midwest Center for Theological Studies the Reformed Baptist Seminary and the Institute Reformed Baptist Studies all three schools Cooperating together on a polemics module and here in January I guess they the old term for this is a Jan term class we have folks that have driven in from quite a distance and But had a lot of fun the class so far good students really enjoying the opportunity to address General topics and apologetics last evening.

We addressed central issues in regards to Roman Catholicism. I'll tell you I'll admit that YouTube has become Quite a useful resource when you want to play clips of your former debates and former debate opponents and things like that.

They have a real nice setup at MCTS Nice big screens and we have about 25 people taking the class online and they are able to ask Questions and things like that. It's it's a real great setup. So we covered Roman Catholicism last night we'll be looking at Mormonism this evening and then Islam Friday night and Saturday morning and Then I'll be preaching at the the church on Sunday and Heading heading home from there, so we are doing this via Skype.

I hope that the sound is good and That you'll be able to call and I don't I forgot to ask whether we will be able to use Skype I suppose we probably if we've got it up and running anyways dividing that line and then eight seven seven seven five three three three four one is The phone number for the regular dividing line a contact number Which I do not have in front of me, but I think I've said it enough times that hopefully I can remember it eight seven seven seven five three three three four one is the phone number a Couple things while we queue up some callers.

I hope we do have some callers today. It's a little bit easier. We're on Skype to do it that way and That is some of you probably are not happy At the current blog article but I I will once again point out that just because many Evangelicals have a very short memory and short attention span and are very easily distracted Doesn't mean that the rest of us should be.

I was directed this morning to the speakers page regarding the 25th annual Pastors conference at the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville. I This has got to be a big church, let me put it put that way.

Because I think someone mentioned they counted 30 speakers on This this one page now just just feeding that number of people would be way out of my league but putting them up and Recording all of this and everything else.

This must be a very very large church. You see it's four rows them. So one two, three, four five six. Seven. Yep, plus two at the bottom. Yep. There's there's 30 people speaking at this one conference.

That is a lot of work. Some big names well-known names. David Allen from Southwestern the same gentleman who falsely accuses me of hyper Calvinism that will not be corrected in that Junior Hill, there's a name.

I hadn't seen in a long time since I was at the North Phoenix Baptist Church. Paul trips gonna be there. Ed Stetzer is gonna be there. I'll molar and Danny Aiken. Jerry vines and of course page Patterson.

Johnny hunt big names. But down at the bottom of the page you find Emir and arrogant canner. Now, I'm gonna refresh this page while I'm sitting here just to see if maybe Something has gotten fixed and I click on the bio and nope.

Actually it oh There we go. Look at this folks. Fascinating. I need to post this immediately. The posting of my blog article only a few hours ago has resulted in the Changing of the bio from arrogant canner.

Let's do a screen capture right here. And we will get that up here. Glad I had the other one but now what we have for arrogant canner is arrogant canner is a professor and Apologist at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary and Graduate School Lynchburg, Virginia.

Raised as a devout Sunni Muslim along with his two brothers. Canner converted in high school after his conversion. He pursued his calling to the ministry and education. He has a master's degree from the Criswell College a master of divinity a master of theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

A doctor of theology from the University of South Africa. He has written numerous books. His brother. Dr Emer canner who is the president of Truett McConnell College a Baptist College in Georgia? That's not what it said this morning.

No this morning as it says on the blog. We had arrogant Mehmet canner is President of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary and Graduate School the Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. Raised as a son of a Muslim leader in Turkey.

Canner became a Christian shortly before entering college serving under his chancellor and president Jerry Falwell jr. Canner led the seminary to triple and growth since his installation in 2005. Which really isn't true by the way a public speaker and apologist canner has debated Buddhists Muslims Hindus and other religious leaders in 13 countries.

And 35 states which we know to be completely bogus. The author of 17 books canner lives in Lynchburg with his wife Jill and his two sons Braxton and Drake. So that's what was there this morning. Now we have the updated version.

How embarrassing must it be to have to run around and Correct people who take your bio, you know, someone took my old bios and put them up. You know, the only thing that they'd have to correct was how many debates I've actually done and how long I've been married they could use old bios for me and Nothing would have changed because I haven't lied about my past and made up stories about my past unlike Ergon canner who now has to contact churches and say Okay.

All right, you know the 13 countries and 35 states thing Buddhists Muslims Hindus other things born in Turkey. Etc, etc, etc. So I've saved that screenshot and Once we're done here if I have time because I don't have a lot of time after this before I start lecturing.

But if I have time, I will update that with the the new version of the bio.

That.

That has now been posted. It seems obvious to me as I look at the pictures on the pastors conference page That the reason the canners are here can be very clearly seen just a few rows up In the fact that Paige Patterson is speaking here and Obviously, I think Paige Patterson is behind having them there.

But as I said, what we're seeing here is the continuation of the great evangelical cover-up. Putting the canner brothers here and it was interesting I was going to. I didn't have time to but I was going to contrast The bio of emir canner with the bio of Ergon canner and show the contradictions.

Because emir canners bio Specifically says born on August 25th 1970 emir fatty canner grew up in the Columbus, Ohio area in a Sunni Muslim family the son of Islamic leader now. Again, the idea that their father was an Islamic leader.

I've not found any of his books. I've not found any evidence that this is the case. He was involved in founding a Turkish American Society or something like that, but that doesn't make you a a Muslim leader but there was a contrast at least initially between the two bios a contradiction between the two that has now been removed and You know, what's hey rich have have we gotten any?

Thanks. From the first Baptist Church Jacksonville or from Ergon canner or anything any emails thanking us for catching this and.

Thanking us for the correction. Not that I'm aware of but that historical circumstance could change at any moment. Thank you very much, yeah, and if I misspoke I want to correct it. Okay, just in case.

But there are okay.

Okay. No, no, it's never an error. There's no such thing as as errors in in the claims we make about our past never never it is troubling we we laugh a little bit and maybe we shouldn't but Especially when these types of changes are made and everybody every okay.

Everybody in this audience knows why that change was made everybody here knows but there's nothing mentioned about it and the people attending that conference aren't gonna know and Maybe the people who signed up to come who read the preceding bio aren't gonna know there's been a change or anything like this because the great evangelical cover-up spearheaded by Norman Geisler and others is working really well and Here you have the evidence of it.

Well, it's working really well in that sense. But it's sad that I continue to receive contacts from people who have actually left Liberty Seminary as students. They will not continue there because they cannot they have integrity and they just simply can't press on they see that Here is a man.

He's now back teaching full-time Teaching on Islam and he has not faced the reality of his own actions and they just go can't do it can't do it and I certainly understand why and I hope that they find some good places they can go and Receive instruction in a in a proper way, but there you have it the continuing Evangelical cover-up it it steamrolls on and I wonder how long in the future It'll be that we will continue to see these false claims being posted and until someone points it out doesn't seem anybody cares.

It's it's a sad thing well Wanted to what I was going to talk about until we saw that Was the situation? I don't know if you have been following it, but the situation in Pakistan Where a man by the name of Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri a 26 year old man Shot the governor of the Punjab province Salman Taseer 26 times He was his bodyguard evidently not a good choice on that level and He shot him because he was opposed to 295 C, which is the absurd unjust ridiculous blasphemy law in Pakistan everybody in Pakistan knows that that law exists so that the Muslim majority can persecute and Silence any minority that isn't Muslim.

Everybody knows it. Everybody knows even the government in the Asia BB situation has looked into it and realizes this was a local dispute and the Muslims brought this up and made the Accusation of blasphemy against Muhammad simply because that's how you can win any argument.

It is meant to destroy all freedom of speech It is meant to give the majority individuals the ability to persecute others, that's all it is and Yet the murder of this man has been Applauded by so many Be and and the the the man who did the murdering is considered to be a hero by so many now.

I know And I've been looking around and if I've if it I have been traveling so maybe I've missed it But I have not seen anything for example on Muslim matters org where people have been Saying that these individuals.

This is individual is evil. I Don't know exactly how a moderate Muslim would respond To the fact that Hussein Qadri Could very clearly make an argument From the examples of the Prophet Muhammad who had people killed who had criticized him They could make the argument.

Well, why can't we do this? In other words, I haven't seen the moderate Muslim Response the argument from the moderate Muslims the non radicalized Muslims That what this man did was wrong Based on Sunnah based on The Hadith based on the actions of Muhammad himself.

Did he not have people killed who had criticized him and If you might say well, yes, but that was I was political in that situation. It's not political now, of course is political now I'd like to know what the argument is That Malik Mumtaz Hussein Qadri What he did was wrong and that that he should not be punished for this murder.

I Would I would like to know but it certainly tells us What life is like in Pakistan and all fellow believers we need to pray for our Pakistani fellow Christians What must it be like the constant pressure?

And.

What must it be like. I wonder for the Muslims who listen to this program. Has it ever struck you? My Muslim friend that by law you have to silence the proclamation the gospel if Islam is so strong. Why do you have to do that?

Why can't why can't Islam prevail in the public square allowing both sides to speak? Why won't Zakir Naik ever come out and actually debate someone who can take him on. What what's what's the situation here it's it's difficult really to understand sometimes.

Well, it's not difficult to understand. It's difficult to understand how people can look at it and not see what the truth is. That I guess is a better way to put it. So I'm keeping my eye on this and what happens with this man.

The picture that I'm looking at on the in the New York Times here Frightening the the facial expression on On Kadi Seems like a very evil man to me. I'm not just by facial expression, but by what he did when you shoot someone 26 times for daring to well, he had the governor had visited with Asia BB and He knew that he is his life.

Probably his time on earth was short. What what an amazing thing and If that's what Islam brings to a culture well, I Don't really have any interest in this on bringing that to my culture in any way shape or form eight seven seven seven five three three four one we have One caller online and looking for your calls as well.

Eight seven seven seven five three three three four one is the phone number dividing dot line Via Skype and so we have a call. I have no idea how to pronounce this. I guess it's Julio in California on Galatians 216.

Hi Julio. Hello Julio. Okay, anybody out there. Am I still connected? Dr. White like it. Yes. There you are. Oh.

Hello, dr. White. I call you a few weeks ago yet. I'm fine. I'm the one that has the funny name. Anyway, I'm calling because I purchased your book Potter's freedom and I'm still waiting for. I bought it from your.

Online and.

So, I don't know you I don't know if you go into this in to your book but I went on a website and there was a fellow that was defending Calvin and Calvinism and he said that Calvinism believes in Ephesians 2 8 that both the grace and the faith are gifts from God and.

This is my question Galatians 216 via the Greek and in parentheses. He wrote and KJV Show that we are justified of the faith of Christ not in. So I got my scriptures out and it does say in Jesus discrepancy or what is the.

If you can help me out there?

Well, I I'm not sure what what the question is to be honest with you. This is some website that you that you read.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it. Well the way I understand is that it's that justified of the faith of Christ. But when I go to my I have the new KJV and it says in The faith of Christ, is it the same or is it different or am I making a mountain out of a mohill?

Well, if you're looking at Galatians 216 the New American Standard says. Nevertheless knowing the man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Christ Jesus. Even we have believed in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works law.

Since by the worst law no flesh we justified so is he. Is the question that there are people who? Look at the phrase the a pista o s Yesu Christu by the faith of Jesus Christ and they say this is the genitive should be here as.

Understood.

As his faithfulness. That we are justified by his faithfulness. It's a the issue is between the sub the subjective and objective genitive. It's an interpretational issue. And they would say that it is the faithfulness of Jesus Christ that is being referred to here.

In fact if I think there might be a translation That actually renders it that way. Let me let me bring one up here and see if the one I'm thinking of actually does have it. But there are many other people that that reject that and Would would argue that?

While there may be a couple of places where that is a possible translation that in the vast majority of situations. Yeah, in fact the New English translation.

Says.

Yet, we know that no one is justified by the works of law. But by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ and we have come to believe in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by the faithfulness of Christ and not by works of the law because by works of the law No one will be justified.

So I'm assuming that's probably where that came from. Here's here's the note that is provided by the.

NET.

Translators at this point to explain this. It's a fairly lengthy one, but it says. Or faith in Jesus Christ. A decision is difficult here. Though traditionally translated faith in Jesus Christ an increasing number of New Testament scholars are arguing that pistis Christi and similar phrases in Paul Then there are a number of others listed involve a subjective genitive and mean Christ's faith or Christ faithfulness.

They mentioned.

G Howard RB Hayes Morna D hooker, etc. Noteworthy among the arguments for the subjective genitive view is that when pistis takes a personal genitive? It is almost never an objective genitive. On the other hand, the objective genitive view has its adherence.

Holtgren DG done and others most commentaries on Romans and Galatians usually side with the objective view which would be faith in Christ the subject of you is the faithfulness of Christ. So There is an extensive discussion of this in in CB CB Cranfield's commentary on Romans and It is a major area of discussion.

I am I am not convinced of the subjective view myself and most translations are not either.

Wow, thank you very much. You go into this a little bit in your book. I.

Go into it in the God who justifies not the Potter's freedom. Potter's freedom is specifically on the doctrines of grace. But when you talk about justification. Then yeah, I address it in In in that book, especially because I use the NET as my base text so I had to discuss the the subjective objective issue.

Well, I guess I'll pick that one up, too. Okay, thank you very much.

Eight seven seven seven five three three three four. One dividing dot line by a Skype is the phone number and. Yeah that I can understand why that could be a confusing issue.

I.

Don't know that it really Since there are so many places where we we are to believe in Jesus That oh, we're not we're not gonna be able to use Skype. Okay, I am Skype. So that's what I could be able to use Skype.

So if you're using dividing that line, sorry. You'll have to call eight seven seven seven five three three three four one. Even though I had mentioned that earlier and nobody had said anything about it, but that's okay.

Hey, you know, that's that's that's like anyway. There are so many places in scripture where we have the objective concept of Exercising faith in Christ that faith is the object. I'm sorry Christ is the object of our faith.

That it's certainly not denying in any way That there that there is an objective placing of faith in Christ is just simply bringing out the possibility that Christ's faithfulness in his sacrifice in his Intercessory work, etc, etc is is Important as well.

I don't know that that's really a big. It just doesn't seem to change the meaning all that much. But it is an interesting thing to to examine and to discuss and to look at it. And that's why I wanted to read the entirety of the note that was provided in the NET at that particular point in time.

So eight seven seven seven five three three three four one is the phone number. For those of you who? Were praying as I had requested a prayer for Situation I am looking at a a second book and looking at a co-author for those second that second book and Unfortunately, the the primary person I wanted to have as the co-author that book has declined doing so.

So.

You may continue to pray That we find the right person to do The right thing with this book, I think it'll be very very important if we can do so. But this is other than the book that I have already mentioned to you that I'm starting to work on and that is what every Christian needs to know about the Quran and Other articles that I'm working on.

I'm working on two articles similar to that For the Reformed Baptist Theological Review as well, so I have a lot of writing to be doing. Pray that I can make headway in that area and it was just mentioned to me by the faceless voiceless person behind the behind the microphone back in the studios in Phoenix.

I did mention in a blog article and I guess we can go back and link to it now not that it would really matter. That the debate we did on the dividing line sometime I forgot what the date was it was 98 99 somewhere around in that 1999 the debate that we did on the dividing line myself and Thomas Holland on the King James version of the Bible and specifically which version of the Bible the King James or modern translations better presents the deity of Christ, so it was a little bit more focused and I listened to it a couple times while writing a few weeks ago before we got posted in the bookstore and I'll have to admit you know what there are simply sometimes that I I wonder why it is that.

That people try to slam me all the time for just being so mean and nasty because I listen to these debates and You know, there's potentiality for meanness and nastiness in these debates and it just doesn't happen.

It seemed like a very clear understandable fair Respectful encounter that we had and I remember doing it. It was back when we were still doing the program on kpxq radio in Phoenix and I remember what the studio looked like and it's it's interesting how you have these images from those debates in your mind.

But.

It was a very very good debate and is now available in the bookstore and I'll have to try to. We just need to fun. We just need to give someone the ability to blog Who can just make sure that anything new that we've offered in the bookstore is mentioned on the blog.

That's what we need to do. Because I just can't always get to it and I just just can't do it. So That that's something I think that it would be it would be wise to to do. Also for those of you who have visited in our chat channel If you have all your settings set up to come visit us in the channel.

You won't find us there anymore. We have actually started our own IRC network and I would like to thank Randy and Sham gar For all of their work in the gang that set up. Randy is especially been doing yeoman's work in Setting that up.

We hopefully will have a second server up and running before too long and we've all made the move over to Geneva IRC net which is our own network. I suppose since I'm mentioning this We might as well Tell one of our lamers one of one of the guys that listens to the program who has been Banned from the old network but he still always tries to get in and then every once while he does manage to sneak in and Then p .m. Private message everybody in the channel about how I'm going to hell good old Troy Brooks.

Troy don't even bother. Because let me just tell you something Troy even though it would be more fun to just go ahead and let you try. Even if you manage to sneak on We have actually designed this network so that if you send Anybody your little private messages the network will not allow it to happen.

It'll disappear into cyberspace. So go on to our website get the information about where we are too late and Join us in the chat channel. We're watching everybody in the chat channel right now. We're gonna go ahead and take our break at the half-hour.

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Sanctifying Christ as Lord in 1 Peter 3:15

I realized that did I even I think I did blog it. It's hard to remember when you're traveling what you what you did or what you did not do and that probably accounts. Yes, I did blog. It's probably accounts for why we're missing some of our regular listeners and hence some of our regular callers at eight seven seven seven five three three three four one eight seven seven seven five three three three four one is the phone number.

I guess we've got lots of folks listening, but not a lot of folks calling so you can do that at eight seven seven seven five three three three four one. I Spent some time. I've been I hope it's a sign of maturity.

That's you can admit openly That you've you've looked at certain scriptures. You've memorized certain scriptures but because of Who you are and what your controversies are and what your interests are.

Sometimes you you continue to miss things. Even when you know the text very well, it's right there in front of you can see it. When you look at the subject of apologetics, what is the key text. The key text in the New Testament.

For example, we were just talking about how our chat channel has moved. We've created our own IRC network. The main chat channel has been it will always be cross Apologian now we make it one word and it's lots of fun to watch people trying to spell it.

But cross apology on is two Greek words from first Peter 315. Head to my AI cross apology on. Always be ready to give a defense. It is the classicus locus the the classical text on apologetics and Yet starting about a year or so ago.

Yeah, it was almost exactly a year ago, I remember because the anniversary of my mother's death is coming up in just a few days and I actually taught a apologetics class at Golden Gate after her death but before her funeral and I flew up there and they worked with me to work around the schedule and things like that.

I'm very appreciative of that and I remember starting off that class with a discussion of first Peter 315 and That's the first time that I remember really delving into This text on a deeper level now.

I actually may have done that now that I'm thinking about it Just a few weeks earlier speaking someplace else. I'm just I'm just not certain when it was but be that as it may I Have been really convicted That when you look at a text like this that you need to look at it and you need to Not import your traditions into it.

I've spoken about this text many times. I've talked about the the importance of always being ready and and It's not that what I've said about the text has been wrong in the past. It's just it wasn't complete.

Because we skip past the beginning of this verse Sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Well, that sounds real nice. It sounds very religious. We sort of give lip service to it then we get to the always ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that's within you yet.

With gentleness and reverence and and we dive into that but I have really come to understand that that first portion of First Peter 3 15 is Let me put it this way if you don't start with that You're not going to have a balanced application of what comes afterwards in other words, I Think finally I've understood what Peter is saying In its fullness rather than just in a in a limited application yes, I was aware of the fact that this is an allusion to Isaiah chapter 8 and Yes, it is very important to go back to this and To look at the context.

It's important in regards to identification of the Lord as Jehovah, that's all important. But once I saw that Then I really had to start struggling with.

The.

Assertion that's being made here and Answer the question. All right, if this is if this is a command to sanctify the Messiah as Kurios in your hearts, how do I do it? How do I do it. It would seem that any Christian.

Would.

Immediately want to make sure if this is a command from my Lord, I want to know how to carry this command out. And Just using religious language Isn't enough. Just using religious language to say well, you know, it's it's to think of Christ as being holy or something like that.

There's much more to it than that and It seems to come together with What you have at the end of the verse Which I remember thinking about a few times and not really Following through on and That is have you ever noticed that the ones to whom you are give to give the defense?

You're always to be ready. Not just once in a while, but you're always to be ready to give a reason defense. But to whom. To everyone.

I.

Telling you asking you a crash a question Asking you specifically for a reason Concerning the in you hope now. Why would someone come up to most Christians?

And.

Ask them about the hope that's within them. Or I guess the better way to put it would be do most Christians live in such a way that Anyone would come up and ask them about the hope within them is the hope that is within us even visible To most people and this is the conclusion.

I've come to if we take serious the command at the beginning of the verse and if I'm right to understand this as being an Enthronement of the Lordship of Christ In our minds and our hearts in such a way that the entirety of our lives including our actions our words our Responses to trials and tribulation will be ordered in light of his lordship.

If I'm right and understanding it that way that person's life and activity will be so different than people in the world That it will result in people asking us About the hope that's within us because that hope that's within us will shine forth in how we live.

You see how it all ties together how the fulfillment of the command at the beginning of the verse explains why there would be these people asking us a Reason for the hope that's within us. You know, it's it's just so much.

There's just so much more to it Than we normally think there's so much more to it than just the phrase always ready to give a defense. And it's uh, I know it's it's That also then explains with the gentleness and reverence part as well.

It there's much more I could go into but the classical text on apologetics Should be a classical text for every single believer to seek to order their inward life in accordance with the lordship of Christ and When we talk about the lordship of Christ This should be part and parcel of the presentation of the gospel that Jesus Christ is Lord at least NT Wright's got that part, right, even if he's got a lot of other parts not right that is a proclamation of power that is a proclamation to royal proclamation and When we proclaim it the result should be a hope that shines in our lives and yet a proper attitude of gentleness and reverence in How we give an answer to those who ask us?