Dallin H. Oaks Is A False Teacher

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October 11, 2023

Deacon Andrew Soncrant of Apologia Church Utah critiques Dallin H. Oaks' most recent Mormon General Conference speech, "The Kingdoms of Glory." The reality is that Dallin H. Oaks Is A False Teacher and the Mormon Organization is not a church. There are millions of LDS individuals all around the world who are enslaved to false doctrine and false teaching and desperately need to hear the truth. Link to 2023 General Conference Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Ts8kOpipQ

00:00: Hey, what's up everybody? It's Andrew Songkrant of Apologia, Utah.
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01:05: Right? Well, anyways, I've got something special for you guys today.
01:08: A general conference just took place.
01:10: It was about a week and a half ago and I apologize.
01:12: I would have had this video up sooner, but last week I actually got COVID.
01:16: My whole family did it.
01:18: Me, my wife, my 9-year-old daughter, my 4-year-old son, and my 1-year-old and 9-month-old.
01:23: We all got COVID and we were out for the count.
01:28: No joke.
01:29: Could barely move.
01:30: I had to order my wife a mobile IV.
01:32: I've never done that before and they came and it helped her move.
01:36: We'll say that it helped her get up, but it was a rough time but the Lord, he kept us through it.
01:43: You know, he kept us through it, gave us energy to take care of the children and we're feeling a lot better now.
01:48: So we actually had planned last week to get this video done, but I couldn't do it because I literally could barely move.
01:53: I'm even still having just some repercussions from the sickness.
01:56: My brain just feels a little bit foggy, but we're going to do this and we're going to have fun.
02:02: So, the 2023 General Conference of October has already happened.
02:06: It was about two weeks ago and we're going to do a response video to Dallin H.
02:11: Oaks video called the Kingdoms of Glory.
02:15: It seems like the theme for this general conference was how to think celestially and what does that mean to think celestially? Well, we're going to go through this video.
02:27: I'm going to pause it in certain aspects and we're going to talk about it.
02:31: Let's see what it means to think celestially, but let's also think biblically, okay? Because we're going to go through this and we're going to dissect it, right? We're going to have fun dissecting it as well and it's important as well to go through this video because Dallin H.
02:46: Oaks, I believe that he is next in line to be the next prophet of the LDS organization.
02:51: President Nelson, if you would watch his most recent general conference video, he was actually sitting down in a chair because he had hurt his back and he's getting up there.
03:00: He's pretty old.
03:01: He's working on his 100th year right now.
03:04: So, I pray that he repents before he goes and this guy will be the next in line, Dallin H.
03:10: Oaks.
03:10: That's why we're going to go through this video today.
03:12: So, without further ado, let's get into it and I'm also manning this OBS system by myself, so if it looks a little clanky, that's my fault, but hey, I'm going to try to get better at this for you guys.
03:23: Here we go.
03:24: Let's get into it.
03:24: There we go.
03:25: See, I pushed that button.
03:26: A little screen pops up.
03:27: I'm going to push it again.
03:27: And it went away.
03:28: Let's pop it up again.
03:29: Boom.
03:30: Let's do this.
03:30: Okay.
03:31: So, I'm going to go over here and we're going to start and let's dissect this video, guys, without further ado.
03:40: Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are frequently asked, how is your church different from other Christian churches? Among the answers we give are the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
03:59: Okay.
04:00: I know I'm stopping a little soon there.
04:01: So, how is your church different from other Christian churches? And his answer is the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
04:12: Okay.
04:12: So, if you're LDS right now and you're watching this and you just don't like us, that's okay.
04:17: I'm glad you're still here with us.
04:19: You have the ability not to like us.
04:21: That's fine.
04:22: But I want you to know Jesus.
04:23: Okay.
04:23: So, I'm going to say some things that are pretty hard.
04:26: It may make you not like me more.
04:28: That's okay.
04:30: But maybe you can think about it just a little bit.
04:32: Alright.
04:32: If you're questioning in your LDS, I think hopefully I can give you some more thoughts, right, to just protrude in there, pull open those recesses of your mind and think a little bit more biblically about the things that are being said.
04:47: But what are the things that you noticed, right? He says different from other Christian churches.
04:52: The question, though, that we need to ask ourselves is, is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is it Christian? And why would they try to lump themselves in with the majority of Protestant Christianity? Why start off a speech that way? And then what does it mean to have the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ? Okay.
05:17: Well, first, I'm going to use an LDS scripture to think about it.
05:21: Are they just part of another Christian denomination? Let's see.
05:24: First Nephi 14, 9 through 10.
05:27: I have it pulled up.
05:27: I'm going to read it right here.
05:28: This is what it says.
05:29: And it came to pass that he said unto me, look and behold the great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
05:37: And he said unto me, behold there are save two churches only.
05:41: The one is of the church of the Lamb of God and the other is the church of the devil.
05:46: Wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God, belongeth to that great church which is the mother of all abominations, and she is the whore of all the earth.
05:56: So I believe in context in 1st Nephi, what's actually being spoken of here is the Roman Catholic church at first.
06:03: But if you really listen here, it says there's still only two churches.
06:07: One is the church of the Lamb of God and the other is the church of the devil.
06:11: So which would be the church of the Lamb of God? Would it just be one denomination within the larger, broader sense of Christianity that gives Christian essential truth and doctrine? No.
06:24: It wouldn't just be all of them.
06:27: It would only be one of them.
06:29: And the one that would be the true church would be, according to 1st Nephi here, the one who brings the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
06:38: So I don't even think Dallin H.
06:40: Oaks here or Mormonism in general believes that other churches have this fullness of truth.
06:48: That they're just another Christian denomination.
06:50: No.
06:50: They're the one true church on the face of the earth.
06:53: That's what they believe.
06:53: I think they should be honest about it because that's what their scripture says.
06:57: There's only one from the Lamb of God and the other is of the devil.
07:01: That means all other Roman Catholic or Protestant, any other sect, right? It doesn't belong to the true church of the Lamb of God but it actually belongs to the devil.
07:10: Well, Andrew, how do you know that? How do you just lump it in there from 1st Nephi? Well, let's think about Joseph Smith's first vision, okay? What did he say? He says this.
07:18: I was answered that I must join none of them.
07:21: Right? Thinking about which church is true.
07:23: This is what he was told.
07:24: For they were all wrong and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight, that those professors were all corrupt, that they draw near me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
07:35: They teach the doctrines, the commandments of men having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
07:42: And Joseph Smith, when he was going about churches at that time, before he has his first vision, he was within America, right? He's in Palmyra, New York.
07:52: These are going to be Protestant churches that are abominations in the sight of God, supposedly.
07:57: So I don't think that the LDS organization holds to a view that they're just one other Christian denomination.
08:05: I think actually what is being said here by Dallin H.
08:07: Oaks, and I would hope that an LDS person would hear this clearly, is that they're not just another denomination is what he's saying.
08:14: He's actually saying, no, they hold the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
08:20: So let's get into that second part.
08:21: What does that mean to have the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ? Okay.
08:27: Let's think about this real quick.
08:29: So the Bible, the Old and New Testament that we have, does not give the fullness of the revelation of the doctrine of Jesus Christ, according to the LDS organization.
08:43: My Old and New Testament is not good enough.
08:46: There is another testament, right, that testifies of Jesus Christ, right? Jesus coming to the Americas, giving more information, and then from there we have the Pearl of Great Price, the Book of Abraham, the Doctrines and Covenants, a few different standard works that they hold to other than the Old and the New Testament.
09:05: But the question is, does the Old and New Testament really not give enough revelation for Jesus Christ? I mean, what does it say in John chapter 1? It says, no one has ever seen God the Father except the unique and only Son who has made him known, right? I think Jesus, with his 12 disciples that he had, and the apostles that wrote the New Testament, does give the perfect revelation that we need in order to know who the Father is through the life of Jesus Christ on earth.
09:38: To say that there's only one church, right, on the face of the earth, like the LDS organization that holds the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ is to say this, it's to say that the Bible is not sufficient, that we need more revelation in order to understand who Jesus is.
09:57: Okay, so if you're LDS and you're listening here, you're like, yes, exactly, we need to have more revelation.
10:03: Okay, I get you, I hear you out, but the question is, how do you know the revelation that you are getting actually comes from God? Well, what do the scriptures actually say from the New Testament about the Bible? Let me take a look real quick, let me pull something up and let me get there, my little ESV app.
10:24: What is this right here? Yeah, we can go to 2 Peter 1, we'll start at 19, verse 19, 2 Peter 1 verse 19, it says, and we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed to which you do well to pay attention, as to a lamp shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
10:43: Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of scripture comes from someone's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
10:58: So in terms of what we have for scripture, we actually have the Holy Spirit who is carrying the men along who have prophecy, right, and who wrote the scriptures, meaning when I hold the biblical text in my hand, I'm holding the very breath of God.
11:16: There's another scripture that we can go to that teaches this, we're going to go to 2 Timothy I believe it's 3.16, let's go here right now pulling it up on my phone, here it is, all scripture is what, breathed out by God, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
11:38: So 1800 years before Joseph Smith, okay, well let's say 1750 years before Joseph Smith, we have texts that were written to the churches, and to specific people of course in the New Testament, from Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and even Jude, that text according to the word of God is actually, it actually equips us for every good work, right? Every good work.
12:10: So prior to this new revelation that comes from Joseph Smith, I actually am told by the Bible that the scriptures that I have in my hand can equip me for every single good work.
12:20: I don't actually need more scriptures.
12:24: So the question again would be, this additional revelation that's revealed to me, how can it give me the fullness of the doctrine of Jesus Christ if according to 2 Timothy 3.16 that the scriptures I already have equip me for every single good work? But hey, if you're LDS and you're listening to this and you're like, well you just don't really understand what we mean, there's no apostolic authority that has been handed down after the death of the apostles, but we have our apostolic authority here and we have revelation.
12:54: Okay, well I'll grant to you then, let's just grant continuing revelation for the sake of the conversation.
12:59: I'll say this, how do you know it is from God? How do you know that it actually comes from God? And I ask you that respectfully.
13:08: If you want to go ahead and comment below, please do and I'll try to respond to what you're saying, but respond specifically to the questions that I'm asking.
13:17: How do you know that the revelation that you're getting revealed to you, let's say from Dallin H.
13:23: Oaks in this sense, actually comes from God? I think that's a fair question.
13:29: I mean, you'd probably ask it to a Jehovah's Witness, right? If they're telling you to pray about the Watchtower Track Society and the New World Translation, whether you want to know if it's true or not, if you get like a burning in your bosom about Jehovah's Witness' beliefs, you'd probably go, well, how do I know? Anyways, even if I'm just getting a feeling, how do I know it comes from God? It's a very good question to ask and I think that's okay.
13:51: Let's continue further on.
13:57: Foremost among that doctrine is the fact that our Heavenly Father loves all His children so much that He wants us all to live in a kingdom of glory forever.
14:12: Okay.
14:13: So there's a lot to unpack here.
14:16: So God loves all His children very much and He wants them to live in a kingdom of glory forever.
14:25: I think this is also the overarching theme of the video here because if you want to go to a kingdom of glory, you should want to go to the highest kingdom of glory.
14:37: But here's the fullness of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, right? That there's actually kingdoms in Heaven but you must work and obey specific laws to be part of those kingdoms.
14:49: So what will you do to enter into that highest level? Which laws will you obey, right? Which laws will you obey? And just to clarify certain teachings from the LDS organization, and you can comment if I'm wrong, but according to LDS doctrine, prior to humanity existing in these bodies that we have in what we would call mortal probation, prior to inhabiting Earth or even this universe, right, in these material capsules that our spirits inhabit, we were actually spiritual offspring in Heaven from Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother.
15:30: Now I won't get into the question on whether or not there's multiple Heavenly Mothers, I think it's kind of irrelevant, but the ontological thought of humanity is this, is that prior to us becoming spirit children, we existed as intelligences.
15:45: Now how did the Father and the Mother organize these intelligences or were they organized? I guess that's not really known within the LDS organization.
15:55: However, what's taught is that Heavenly Father has a body of flesh and bone, right, like an exalted body and He procreates with Heavenly Mother and they create spirit children.
16:10: So the thought is that every single one of us who lives on planet Earth and who's going to come live on planet Earth was once a spirit child in Heaven.
16:21: I don't know if you'd call that Heaven or not, you can let me know if you're LDS below, but that's where we were prior to taking on flesh and becoming part of mortal probation.
16:32: So in the pre-existence, alright, we all existed and Heavenly Father was going to enact a plan, right, like you can call it the plan of salvation essentially or the eternal progression, the plan of eternal progression and in this plan, Heavenly Father states that He wants someone to go and die for a people to give them a choice in order to love God and obey and keep His commands so that they can be obedient to the Gospel ordinances and principles and one day also get an exalted body of flesh and bone so that they too can have a wife in Heaven and have their own spirit offspring, right, because that's what God the Father did before He was God the Father.
17:18: So there was a council that took place and Jesus was literally the firstborn of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother and He says that's the plan, I'll go, I'll go die for the people and then Satan is there as well he's the, I don't know if he's the secondborn but I believe so and he goes, well no, I'll make them all believe, everyone will believe and that essentially takes away choice to love God and keep His commandments.
17:42: So the father didn't like Satan's plan, Satan gets jealous goes with Jesus and the original plan and a war then ensues in Heaven with all the spirit offspring so there's one third of the spirit offspring side with Jesus one third sides with Lucifer and one third are fence sitters according to LDS doctrine.
18:04: Alright, so the war happens in Heaven and Satan and his demons are cast down, they aren't given the chance to enter mortal probation, right, that's why people can become demon possessed because demons really want bodies according to the LDS organization and the rest will enter mortal probation and they can choose or not to believe in Jesus Christ and follow the gospel ordinances and principles in order to reach the highest level of glory upon the consummation of all things to get a body of flesh and bones so that they can also then exhibit the plan, the eternal progression the plan of salvation for all of their own offspring that's essentially the plan, right, so when we hear things that God wants all His children to live in glory forever if you're a Christian I want you to take off your Christian lens to understand what He is trying to communicate, there's a lot of presuppositions under there gotta remember, Dallin is talking to LDS people, he's not talking to Orthodox Christians, meaning that there's a lot of baggage behind the words that were being said, but here's the thing, in order to live in a kingdom of glory forever, things must occur, okay, let's listen to what he has to say a little bit more, okay Moreover, He wants us to live with Him and His Son Jesus Christ eternally.
19:34: His plan gives us the teachings and the opportunity to make the choices that will assure us the destiny and the life we choose.
19:46: Okay so He wants us to live with Him, the Father, and Jesus forever, but there are certain stipulations in order to meet those requirements that the sacrifice of Jesus doesn't actually qualify you for.
20:09: That's the reality, that's what they believe, but let's go into some quotes about the pre-existence here, I pulled some quotes off of the LDS.org website.
20:18: This is from The Origin of Man, The Improvement Era, 13, number 1, November 1909, page 78.
20:26: All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of deity.
20:34: Alright, here's the next one, this is from Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, chapter 1, verse 57 In the pre-existence we dwelt in the presence of God our Father.
20:45: When the time arrived for us to be advanced in the scale of our existence and pass through this mundane probation, counsels were held, and the spirit children were instructed in matters pertaining to conditions in mortal life.
20:57: And the reason for such an existence in the former life we were spirits, in order that we should advance and eventually gain the goal of perfection.
21:04: It was to be made known that we would receive tabernacles of flesh and bones, and have to pass through mortality where we would be tried and proved to see if we, by trial, would prepare ourselves for exaltation.
21:17: We were made to realize in the presence of our glorious Father, who had a tangible body of flesh and bones, which shone like the sun, that we were as spirits far inferior in our station to Him.
21:31: So, in LDS doctrine, the fullness of the revelation of Jesus Christ is that one day you can become a god.
21:42: That you were once inferior to the Father, but you can enter mortal probation, become obedient to the gospel ordinances and principles, this high celestial law, in order to reach the highest level of glory.
21:58: So you've got to think celestially.
22:00: You've got to think celestially here, and that's what we're actually going to be getting told.
22:03: So let's keep going.
22:06: From modern revelation, we know that the ultimate destiny of all who live on the earth is not the inadequate idea of heaven for the righteous, and the eternal sufferings of hell for the rest.
22:24: God's loving plan for His children includes this reality taught by our Savior Jesus Christ.
22:33: In my Father's house are many mansions.
22:38: Okay.
22:39: Let's do a full stop there.
22:41: Modern revelation states that God's loving plan is not heaven or hell.
22:46: Heaven for the righteous and hell for those who don't inherit the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
22:51: He says, modern revelation tells us something different.
22:53: Then he quotes Jesus.
22:55: Jesus says, in my Father's house there are many mansions.
22:59: Okay.
23:00: So the New Testament does describe that there is a hell.
23:04: And Jesus in the New Testament talks about hell more than anybody else.
23:09: Hell is spoken about by Jesus in Matthew 5, 21-26.
23:13: Matthew 7, 13-14.
23:15: Matthew 13, 24-30.
23:19: 36-43 in chapter 13.
23:22: And 13, 47-52.
23:24: Let's keep going.
23:25: Matthew 16, 13-20.
23:27: Matthew 18, 1-9.
23:29: Matthew 22, 1-14.
23:31: Matthew 25, 14-30.
23:33: And Matthew 25, 31-46.
23:36: And that's not even all of the places where Jesus speaks of hell.
23:40: But my question would be, why would Jesus contradict Himself with modern revelation? And why is it inadequate to believe that I will go to heaven through the righteousness of Jesus Christ and Christ alone? And then deny the very fact that there's a hell for God's children.
24:03: Okay.
24:04: Why? The reality is, even within the LDS doctrine and organization, there are God's children who go to hell.
24:13: It's true.
24:14: Satan, his minions, aren't they not God's children? And don't they go to hell? What about apostate Mormons? What about people who have been given so much light that deny the truth of the church? Do they go to hell? Isn't there a place reserved for them in hell? So is it not loving that God would be just would be the question? Hell is the reality for every single individual that denies Jesus Christ.
24:42: Why? Because we have sinned against a holy, just, and righteous God.
24:46: Romans 3.
24:47: No one seeks God.
24:48: No one understands God.
24:49: All have gone astray.
24:50: The venom of the asps is under our lips.
24:51: Our throats are an open grave, right? Romans chapter 1 also states that we refuse to worship, right, the glory of the immortal God, and we exchange it for the creation, for idols, for things that resemble creeping things, right? Or even worshiping sections or things of the earth instead of the true and eternal God.
25:15: Or this, we take the God of the Bible, who is uncreated, from everlasting into everlasting, creator of all things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, from nothing created all things, through the power of His Word, we take the worship of that God and we say, no, God was once a man like you and like me, and He wants me to become just like Him one day.
25:43: I apologize, but what's being done here, and I want you to listen because I care about you, is that the glory of the immortal God, of the eternal God, is being exchanged for a creation that looks just like man, which is a creation of God.
26:00: It's the same type of worship.
26:02: It's false, misplaced worship, and we do that naturally as fallen human beings.
26:09: We don't want the God that died for us.
26:13: I mean, that's the very point of Jesus Christ dying on the cross, is that the Jews were seeing Him, like God in the flesh, right? The God who delivered them from the hands of Egypt, it says in Jude, it was Jesus who delivered the Israelites from Egypt.
26:28: He is now with them in the flesh and they exchanged Him for Barabbas, right? This is what always happens, but the point being is this, is that modern revelation shouldn't contradict previous revelation.
26:42: Hell is spoken of in the Bible so much.
26:45: Just go read the book of Revelation as well.
26:47: There's a reason, though.
26:49: It's because God is loving, but God is also just, and if we sin against God, there's required a sacrifice, right? It makes Jesus' sacrifice that much greater because it didn't save me from the lowest level of heaven, right? It didn't save me from an outer darkness, no.
27:08: It saved me from the eternal flames and wrath of God because it was that which was extinguished on Christ on the cross.
27:17: The Father was pleased to crush Him on us, or on Him was the iniquities of us all.
27:24: Isaiah 53, upon Him fell our chastisement, the wrath of God.
27:30: If we take away hell, we're actually going to lessen what the gospel actually is.
27:36: I mean, Dallin, I respect you as a man, but I don't like when someone takes the words of Jesus in the New Testament and says that they're inadequate and then try to show a fullness of doctrine by quoting the New Testament from John 14 talking about, at my Father's house there are many mansions.
28:01: I mean, what's the context of John 14? Jesus is saying, don't be sad because I'm going to be going, but I'm going to leave you the helper.
28:07: He's talking about the Holy Spirit here.
28:09: But think about John 14.
28:10: What does it say? It says, no one can come to the Father except by me.
28:15: The LDS organization denies that.
28:18: It denies that.
28:18: It says, no, Jesus' death makes it possible, but you come to the Father with your righteousness.
28:24: Let's continue on.
28:25: We're only a minute and 26 seconds into this, so we've got to keep going.
28:27: I'm sorry, guys.
28:31: The revealed doctrine of the restored church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that all the children of God, with exceptions too limited to consider here, will ultimately...
28:44: See, let's just pass over that there.
28:46: Exceptions a little bit too limited.
28:48: There are people who go to hell, but it's just so limited here.
28:52: We'll just pass over that.
28:54: One of three kingdoms of glory, even the least of which surpasses all understanding.
29:05: After a period in which the disobedient suffer for their sins, which suffering prepares them for what is to follow, all will be resurrected and proceed to the final judgment of the Lord Jesus Christ.
29:24: Wow.
29:25: Okay.
29:25: Really think about what's being said.
29:28: After some suffer for their own sins, then he talks about the second coming.
29:34: All will be resurrected.
29:36: I agree.
29:36: All people will be resurrected.
29:38: John tells us there's the resurrection of the just and the unjust, right? Then those people who are not justified, declared righteous through Jesus Christ are going to be cast into the lake of fire by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
29:53: They will be cast into the lake of fire.
29:55: That's a reality.
29:57: All of those who do believe in Jesus Christ, we will live with God eternally, but we have a glorified resurrected body.
30:06: Doesn't mean we're going to live in one of three kingdoms, though.
30:08: The text actually never says that.
30:09: That's nowhere in the New Testament.
30:12: Paul does talk about three different levels of heaven, but it's not anything specified to where you're actually going to occupy.
30:19: There's different types of interpretations for that text, but none of the Orthodox interpretations of that text come up to the conclusion that you reach a level of celestial glory through works of your own means.
30:32: Certain people live here and certain people live there.
30:35: It's just not what is taught.
30:37: But let's just digress a little bit here.
30:42: We just heard that people will suffer for their own sins.
30:47: That there's some type of absolvement that actually occurs through that while they're in this waiting place prior to the second coming of Christ.
30:54: Well, I want to think about that for a minute.
30:57: What do Christians think? So what happens to unbelievers now when they die? Well, first comes death and then comes the judgment.
31:03: That's what Hebrews tells us.
31:05: And in that judgment, you're cast to Hades.
31:07: That is the place that you are awaiting the final judgment and wrath of God through being cast into hell, into the lake of fire.
31:16: Hades is not a place you would want to be.
31:18: Hades is described in the New Testament, a man who wants to get some form of liquid, but just can't.
31:25: He's not in paradise.
31:27: He is also suffering the wrath of God, but he's not in hell yet.
31:31: That's where unbelievers go.
31:33: Christian, where do you go when you die? Well, when I die, I'm separated from my body and I go to heaven, not paradise.
31:40: I'm not in paradise or Abraham's bosom anymore.
31:43: I'm actually in heaven, dwelling with God, awaiting the final resurrection to where I get my glorified body.
31:50: And then the judgments are made and occurred, and I'm living in the new heavens and new earth for all eternity with God, just through my faith, not my own personal righteousness.
31:59: I'm not living on a level of glory.
32:02: I'm just living in the new heavens and new earth, doing what we're going to be doing in the new creation.
32:07: That's just what Christians believe.
32:10: But it's a good question to ask.
32:11: Let's continue on, though.
32:13: There, our loving Savior, who we are taught glorifies the Father and saves all the works of his hands, will send all the children of God to one of these kingdoms of glory.
32:29: Not true.
32:29: Remember, there's some people.
32:31: It's so limited, though, that we don't need to talk about it.
32:34: But there are some people who go to hell.
32:36: So not everybody gets to one of these levels of glory, my friend.
32:40: According to the desires manifested through their choices.
32:46: Another unique doctrine and practice of the restored church is the revealed commandments and covenants that offer all the children of God the sacred privilege of qualifying for the highest degree of glory in the celestial kingdom.
33:03: There we go.
33:05: There we go.
33:05: We have the revelation now.
33:07: It has been given to us that we can reach the highest level of glory.
33:12: Remember what I said.
33:12: That's to become a God.
33:14: Right? To become just like the Father.
33:17: You can do it now.
33:19: The revelation has been given.
33:20: You can qualify by your own works.
33:23: Let's listen up.
33:25: That highest destination, exaltation in the celestial kingdom, is the focus of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
33:38: From modern revelation, Latter-day Saints have this unique understanding of God's plan of happiness for his children.
33:48: That plan begins with our life as spirits before we were born.
33:53: And it reveals the purpose and conditions of our chosen journey in mortality and our desired destination thereafter.
34:05: Okay.
34:05: A lot to unpack here, but we'll go quickly.
34:08: You heard it yourself from Dallin that the sole focus of the LDS organization is what? To get to the celestial level.
34:18: The highest level of glory through qualifying in order to get there.
34:25: Remember, he says our choices that we make during mortal probation, the things that we do show our desires, which will place us in a specific level of glory.
34:38: Okay.
34:39: So that means the way I live today, I'm obeying a certain type of law.
34:45: Therefore, where I'm going to live after the second coming of Christ or after the millennial reign, whatever it may be, that level of glory is where I'm going to live because my choices here manifested the fact that I could obey that law in the afterlife, in a sense.
35:04: Let's keep listening.
35:07: We know from modern revelation that all kingdoms have a law given and that the kingdom of glory we receive in the final judgment is determined by the laws we choose to follow in our mortal journey.
35:23: Each kingdom has a law that your desires show the choices that you obey, which will get you to a specific level of glory.
35:34: But remember, the sole focus of the LDS organization is to get a body of flesh and bone to have your own spiritual offspring, and that is the sole focus of the LDS organization.
35:47: Under that loving plan, there are multiple kingdoms, many mansions, so that all of God's children will inherit a kingdom of glory whose laws they can comfortably abide.
36:02: Not all.
36:04: Sorry, I just have to say it again.
36:05: Not all.
36:06: The scope is so limited with some that we're just going to pass right over that.
36:10: But again, it's not all.
36:13: As we describe the nature and requirements of each of the three kingdoms in the Father's plan, we begin with the highest, which is the focus of the divine commandments and ordinances God has revealed through the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
36:33: There we go.
36:34: Okay.
36:35: So I want to ask this to my LDS friends that are listening here, or if you don't like me, you don't want me to call you friends.
36:40: That's okay.
36:41: That's okay.
36:42: I'm not angry with you.
36:44: I want you to know the true Jesus.
36:46: Again, that's why I'm making this.
36:47: I care for you.
36:48: I care for your soul.
36:50: What is the third article of faith according to the LDS organization? Say it with me.
36:54: We believe that all mankind may be saved through the atonement of Jesus Christ by obedience to the gospel ordinances and principles.
37:03: When thinking about salvation within the LDS organization, I don't think you can separate that from exaltation, right? In order to be saved, to reach this highest level of celestial glory, which is the sole focus of the LDS organization, it's not just the blood of Jesus Christ.
37:24: It's not.
37:25: It's covenants that you make, works that you must obey, and you must qualify to reach that level of kingdom so that when you are there, you're already going to be obeying the laws that take place there.
37:39: And the revelation that has been given to the organization is the principles, ordinances of men that must be followed in order to reach that highest level.
37:51: In the celestial glory, there are three levels, of which the highest is exaltation in the celestial kingdom.
38:02: This is the dwelling of those who have received of His fullness and of His glory.
38:10: Wherefore, they are gods, even the sons and daughters of God, and dwell in the presence of God and His Christ forever and ever." Through revelation, God has revealed the eternal laws, ordinances, and covenants that must be observed to develop the godly attributes necessary to realize this divine potential.
38:41: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints focuses on these because the purpose of this restored Church is to prepare God's children for salvation in the celestial glory, and more particularly for exaltation in its highest degree.
39:03: You see how salvation is redefined by the LDS organization? We have salvation differing from exaltation.
39:12: I mean, the Bible doesn't differ salvation and glorification though.
39:17: It's actually all linked together in the Golden Chain of Redemption in Romans chapter 8.
39:21: Those whom He called, or those who were predestined, He also called.
39:24: Those who He called, He also justified.
39:25: And those who He justified, He also glorified.
39:29: It's all linked.
39:30: It's the Golden Chain of Redemption in Romans chapter 8.
39:33: And all of that is done solely through my faith and belief in Jesus Christ.
39:37: Not a work of my own, but solely through the work of God who was perfectly obedient to the law, was covenanted to the Father in that obedience, and I am justified through that.
39:50: That's a beautiful thing.
39:53: Oh, one of my lights went out.
39:54: Let me do that.
40:08: There we go.
40:08: Turn my light back on for us.
40:10: Let's continue on.
40:14: God's plan founded on eternal truth requires that exaltation can be attained only through faithfulness to the covenants of an eternal marriage between a man and a woman in the Holy Temple.
40:31: Which marriage will ultimately be available to all the faithful? Yeah, so what I'm hearing here is just a reiteration of God's design for the family, stating that it's marriage between only a man and a woman.
40:48: But there's a little more than that in terms of what He's saying is you must be sealed in the Temple for time and all eternity.
40:54: But I think what He's really trying to do here also is refute some of the liberalism that is trying to take hold of the Church or within the new younger modern Mormons that are coming up.
41:08: I've spoken with many of them outside of BYU that do believe that same-sex marriage is okay and things of that nature.
41:16: And I think He's kind of reiterating here that no, it's only between a man and a woman in that sealed covenant relationship within the Temple that allows you to qualify.
41:25: But think about that if you're LDS then.
41:27: If you're not married, will you reach that highest level? And how come God hasn't provided you a wife yet? What if you're 55, 65 years old and you're like, I can't find a wife anymore that you've given up.
41:39: What happens then? You're not worthy enough now to obey the laws or keep the covenants or stay on that covenant path because you were never sealed in the Temple? You can't get to the highest level for that reason? That is why we teach that, quote, gender is an essential characteristic of individual pre-mortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.
42:05: There we go.
42:06: So he's saying that even in the pre-existence you had a gender.
42:11: All right.
42:12: You can't just believe whatever you want to believe.
42:14: It's very important that you must realize that you're a male here because you were a male there in the pre-existence.
42:20: You're a female here because you're a female there in the pre-existence.
42:23: And there's a very good reason for that.
42:27: A uniquely valuable teaching to help us prepare for exaltation is the 1995 proclamation on the family.
42:36: Its declarations clarify the requirements that prepare us to live with God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ.
42:46: Those who do not fully understand the Father's loving plan for His children may consider this family proclamation no more than a changeable statement of policy.
42:58: In contrast, we affirm that the family proclamation founded on irrevocable doctrine defines the mortal family relationship where the most important part of our eternal development can occur.
43:17: Irrevocable doctrine? Let's see.
43:21: Let's see.
43:21: Right now? For now? Yeah.
43:23: But what was said from Elder Alan D.
43:26: Haynes at the last General Conference, he said, you can't use old prophecy to contradict new prophecy.
43:33: Old prophecy is not like an antique car.
43:35: It doesn't get better or have more value with age.
43:38: Why did he say that? Well, because things change.
43:40: I don't think there's any irrevocable doctrine within the LDS organization.
43:45: Right now, are they still standing upon this standard that they have? Yes.
43:48: Yes.
43:49: But irrevocable? No.
43:51: I wouldn't say it's irrevocable.
43:53: Well, was section 132 in Doctrine and Covenants, was that irrevocable at one point? Oh, it sure seems like it when you read it.
44:00: Polygamy was an eternal command that it should never have gone away.
44:04: In order to reach that highest level, you must have a polygamous marriage.
44:08: But that was changed.
44:11: So, I shed a little bit of doubt on that.
44:15: The Apostle Paul describes the three degrees of glory, likening them to the glories of the sun, moon, and stars.
44:25: He names the highest celestial and the second terrestrial.
44:32: He does not name the lowest, but a revelation to Joseph Smith added its name, telestial.
44:42: That revelation also describes the nature of the persons to be assigned to each of these kingdoms of glory.
44:51: So, the nature of each of the persons assigned to the kingdoms of glory.
44:55: Let's hear about it.
44:58: Those who do not choose, quote, to abide the law of a celestial kingdom will inherit another kingdom of glory, lesser than the celestial but suited to the laws they have chosen and can comfortably abide.
45:19: Man, I'm just thinking right now, off the top of my head, it's so sad because me, as a Christian, I understand that in this life, I'm not going to be sinless.
45:33: Therefore, according to this doctrine, if I'm honest with myself, this doctrine that he's teaching, I'm never going to be able to qualify for the highest level.
45:42: John says, he who says he is without sin, the truth isn't in you.
45:47: That's a reality.
45:48: There'll never be a point to where I'm perfect in this life.
45:51: Therefore, there'll never be a point to where I can actually get to this highest level because I can't do it.
45:59: I wouldn't be able to do it.
46:00: I can't make it.
46:01: I'm a human.
46:02: I'm not perfect.
46:03: I wasn't born perfect or impeccable like Jesus Christ.
46:06: I rely solely on his righteousness and righteousness alone that justifies me before God.
46:11: Right? Let's keep listening.
46:14: That word abide, so common in the scriptures, means a secure placement.
46:22: For example, those in the terrestrial kingdom, comparable to the popular concept of heaven, are, quote, they who receive of the presence of the Son, but not of the fullness of the Father.
46:40: They were, quote, honorable men of the earth who were blinded by the craftiness of man, but not valiant in the testimony of Jesus.
46:51: Did you hear that, though? In that level of heaven, they can have Jesus, but they can't have the Father.
46:58: What does that mean? Like, what does that say to you as somebody who's just listening to this? Say you're not LDS and you're listening to this.
47:05: It sounds to me that he's saying that Jesus is nowhere near as awesome as the Father.
47:11: That's what it sounds like to me, but that's not true.
47:15: Jesus is eternally God.
47:18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
47:21: All things were created through Him.
47:22: There was nothing that came into being unless it was created through Him and for Him.
47:26: Hebrews chapter 1, we have the Father speaking of the Son and calling Him Lord and calling Him God.
47:33: Jesus is fully God.
47:35: If you have seen Him, you have seen the Father.
47:37: Why? Because He is the one who makes the Father known to us.
47:41: He's the exegesis of the Father.
47:44: He has taken on flesh to show us who the Father is.
47:48: If you know Jesus, you know the Father in that extent.
47:52: And when you die and you have the righteous robes of Jesus Christ, you dwell with the Father and the Son, not on this external qualifying covenant that you must put yourself in and then qualify for.
48:06: No.
48:06: But because of the covenant that God made with Abraham in Genesis 15, 6, that Jesus made with Abraham, right? Well, actually it says He swore upon Himself.
48:17: So the covenant cut with God by God for God and completed by God, given to Abraham through grace, right? That's the covenant that I'm justified on.
48:27: Let's go all the way back.
48:28: We get to the beginning of the covenants right there.
48:30: I mean, man, this is just some heavy stuff.
48:33: But we're being told literally by this man that if you're not in the celestial kingdom, you're going to be in a lower one, right? And that one you're not going to be able to dwell with the Father, but at least you'll get the Son.
48:44: At least you'll get the Son.
48:46: Man, that just sounds sick to me.
48:48: I'm sorry.
48:49: If you're LDS and that kind of offends you a little bit, I'm not trying to offend you, but think about what's being said about Jesus here, that He's not as good as the Father, right? That in order to dwell with Jesus and the Father, you've got to work for it.
49:00: I mean, man.
49:04: The revealing description of those assigned to the lowest of the kingdoms of glory, the telestial, is he who cannot abide a terrestrial glory.
49:22: That describes those who reject the Savior and have observed no divine limits on their behavior.
49:33: This is the kingdom where the wicked abide after they have suffered for their sins.
49:41: So, I really want you to think about the justice of God here.
49:44: So the wicked are going to abide at the lowest level of heaven.
49:48: And it's been said about this lowest level of heaven that it is so much more amazing than where we live today that if you were to get a glimpse of it, you'd kill yourself just to be able to get there one day.
49:58: But the wicked go there then? Is that just? Right? Like, the rapist goes there.
50:08: Hitler goes there.
50:10: Stalin, Mao.
50:12: Man, how does that make any sense whatsoever? Because they suffer for their own sins.
50:18: A man who's killed, let's say, 9 million people through his policies at the works of his hands will suffer for his sins in just a matter of infinitesimal years.
50:32: Right? He can just do that and then he'll get to that lowest kingdom.
50:36: I mean, a sin and an offense against the Holy God is just so that a lifetime could never pay for the things that you have done.
50:44: Psalm 49 actually says there's no soul or no ransom that a man can give for another man that would stop the person from seeing Sheol.
50:54: Because the cost of a man's life is costly, it's great.
50:57: An offense against the eternal God cannot be paid with human blood and human hands.
51:03: Sinful human blood, right? That's the point of Jesus.
51:08: The point of Jesus is he was perfectly obedient to the law, sinless, died, his blood covers our sins, and he ransoms not just one person from the pit, but all that who believe in him.
51:19: And the wrath of God, which would have been placed on me was placed on him instead.
51:24: That's totally just.
51:25: That's a just God who sends me to heaven because the price and penalty has actually been paid by the one who can pay it.
51:32: That's not the gospel, what we're hearing here.
51:35: Right? That's not the gospel.
51:36: The gospel isn't that the wicked are going to die, they're going to suffer for their own sins for a time, and then they're going to get resurrected and placed into this lowest kingdom.
51:42: That's not justice.
51:43: That's not the gospel.
51:45: It literally took the death of God on the cross, right? In order to pay for the wrath of God, for our sins to be expitiated upon him.
51:58: It's hard for me to fathom things like this.
52:01: Does that sound like a loving God to you? Just, I mean, picture you're the one who your child was murdered at the hands of a murderer.
52:10: And this murderer never repents in this life.
52:12: You give the murderer the gospel on the witness stand.
52:15: They reject God.
52:16: They hate God.
52:17: They killed your child.
52:18: You can't get your child back, right? You can't get justice served, yet they're going to get to that lowest kingdom where the wicked abide.
52:26: That is such a beautiful place to be living.
52:29: I don't think so.
52:30: I don't think so.
52:31: God is a God that is just, and there will be cosmic justice for every wrong that has been done.
52:36: That's not justice.
52:41: These are described in modern revelation as, quote, they who receive not the gospel of Christ, neither the testimony of Jesus.
52:51: These are they who are liars and sorcerers and adulterers and whoremongers and...
52:58: Sorcerers? Is that where Joseph Smith is then? Is that where he is? Talk about the little talisman that was in his pocket when he was found after he was murdered.
53:08: Joseph Smith, the treasure dicker? Come on, man.
53:12: Don't say sorcerers if you're not going to be consistent in the standard that you're trying to uphold here.
53:18: I get the Bible says that, but Joseph Smith was indeed a sorcerer.
53:24: He really was.
53:25: And whosoever loves and makes a lie.
53:29: End of quote.
53:31: Speaking of the three kingdoms of glory with his prophetic vision, President Russell M.
53:38: Nelson recently wrote, quote, mortal lifetime is barely a nanosecond compared with eternity.
53:47: But what a crucial nanosecond it is.
53:51: Consider carefully how it works.
53:54: During this mortal life, you get to choose which laws you are willing to obey.
54:01: Those of the celestial kingdom or the terrestrial or the telestial, and therefore in which kingdom of glory you will live forever.
54:11: What a plan.
54:14: It is a plan that completely honors your agency.
54:20: End of quote.
54:22: The Apostle Paul taught that the Lord's teachings and commandments were given that we may all attain, quote, the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.
54:35: That process requires far more than acquiring knowledge.
54:40: It is not even enough to be convinced of the gospel.
54:44: We must act so that we are converted by it.
54:49: In contrast to other preaching, which teaches us to know something, the gospel of Jesus Christ challenges us to become something.
55:03: From such teachings, we conclude that the final judgment is not just an evaluation of a sum total of good and evil acts, what we have done.
55:16: It is based on the final effect of our acts and thoughts, what we have become.
55:24: Man, so in order to reach that highest level, it's what you have become in the mortal probation that you have now.
55:35: Remember, it's just a small little nanosecond of this extreme eternal outcome.
55:42: But what have you become? God would say, according to the LDS organization here, when you die, they're going to look at you and they're going to say, or God's going to look at you and he's going to say, have you become like me? Are you just like I am in order to get this body of flesh and bone? Have you obeyed the gospel ordinances and principles? Have you done enough? Moroni 10.32, right? If you deny yourself of all ungodliness and love the Lord with all your might, might, and strength and then his grace is sufficient for you, right? That's going to be the question that's asked of you, I guess.
56:18: That's a heavy burden, guys.
56:21: But I guess you got to think celestially, right? You just got to keep plotting on and doing the best that you can.
56:26: But the question is, if you're honest with yourself, can you? Can you really do enough? And if you think that you can do enough to please God, maybe you don't know who God is.
56:38: Maybe you just don't know who God is.
56:40: Because the God that I believe in is eternal.
56:43: He is infinite.
56:44: He is uncreated.
56:45: He always has, will, and will be the same yesterday, today, and forever.
56:51: And I know my offense against him requires a sacrifice.
56:56: I know my offense against him, I know my position, at least ontologically, before him, I'm a creature that is defied the creator.
57:07: That I'm not being the same level or degree of God as God is.
57:14: I am literally created by God.
57:17: I'm not from everlasting into everlasting like he is.
57:20: And I'm a creature from the dirt that's defied the living God, quoting R.C.
57:24: Sproul there.
57:26: Be honest with yourself when you really think this way.
57:30: Do you really think that you're going to be worshipped one day? Do you think that when God's judging your works, he's going to say you're worthy of worship now? That's some heavy stuff, man.
57:40: I wouldn't ever want to be thinking that way.
57:43: We qualify for eternal life through a process of conversion.
57:50: As used here, this word of many meanings signifies a profound change of nature.
57:58: It is not enough for anyone just to go through the motions.
58:03: The commandments, ordinances, and covenants of the gospel are not a list of deposits required to be made in some heavenly account.
58:13: The gospel of Jesus Christ is a plan that shows us how to become what our Heavenly Father desires us to become.
58:23: Because of Jesus Christ and his atonement, when we fall short in this life, we can repent and rejoin the covenant path that leads to what our Heavenly Father desires for us.
58:37: Really though? What does that even look like according to the LDS doctrine? I want to take a look here.
58:43: Let's take a look.
58:44: What is this repentance? I'm going to pull up a little something-something from the Doctrine and Covenants here.
58:56: Where is it? Is it Doctrine and Covenants 82.6? Because you've got to remember, you need to qualify, right? What have you become? There's similar language here using terms like repentance to Orthodox Christians, but I'm telling you it means something totally different according to the LDS organization.
59:22: So let's look at Doctrine and Covenants here.
59:26: Oh, it's 82.7.
59:29: Here we go.
59:30: Doctrine and Covenants 82.7.
59:32: And now verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge.
59:38: Go your ways and sin no more.
59:41: But unto the soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.
59:49: Does that mean that repentance means you're never going to do it again? I mean, are these the things that Dallin H.
59:54: Oaks isn't telling us here when he's sitting giving this 16-minute speech? He says, well, you have the grace of God in order to repent.
01:00:01: Okay, but what does that mean then? Better not do it again.
01:00:05: And if you're having issues with me, go to your church website, Doctrine and Covenants 82.7.
01:00:09: Click on where it says former.
01:00:11: Where is it going to take us in the Bible? It actually takes us to Matthew 12, 43 through 45.
01:00:17: It states this, When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest and finding none.
01:00:24: Then he said, I will return into my house from when I came out.
01:00:27: And when he has come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
01:00:31: Then goeth he and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there.
01:00:36: And the last date of that man is worse than the first.
01:00:38: Even so shall it be unto this wicked generation.
01:00:42: So the one who repents, right, but does the sins again, guess what? All of the former sins shall return again.
01:00:50: Are you worthy? Are you still sinning? Because if you're sinning right now in your LDS, I'm going to tell you right now, according to Dallin Oaks here, according to Doctrine and Covenants 82.7, you're not worthy to reach exaltation.
01:01:04: You're not going to do it.
01:01:05: You must already have become that.
01:01:10: The Book of Mormon teaches that this life is the time for us to prepare to meet God.
01:01:18: But that challenging limitation to this life was given a hopeful context at least to some extent for some persons by what the Lord revealed to...
01:01:32: So there's a context here.
01:01:33: So he says that this life is a life in which you have to prepare to meet God.
01:01:38: Spencer W.
01:01:38: Kimball would agree with that.
01:01:39: He actually said that that means in order to reach the highest level of heaven now, be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect is something that you can obtain.
01:01:48: So let's see what the qualifications are.
01:01:50: He says that there's...looks like there's some exceptions.
01:02:10: ...continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption through the sacrifice of the only begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead.
01:02:31: The dead who repent will be redeemed through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God.
01:02:41: And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works for they are heirs of salvation." End of quote.
01:02:58: In addition, we know that the millennium, the thousand years that follow the second coming of the Savior, will be a time to perform the required ordinances for those who have not received them in their mortal lives.
01:03:15: Okay.
01:03:16: There's the exception.
01:03:17: Do you hear that? I've talked to a lot of LDS people on the street and they'll be like, oh well after I die, there's still things that I can do in order to reach that highest level.
01:03:25: If I haven't got there yet, my first question is, if you can't do it now, what makes you think you can do it later? Which I think Dallin Oaks would say the same thing.
01:03:32: But do you hear what he just said? He said it isn't for people who have been aware of this covenant path who were given the gospel ordinances and principles who were told what they needed to follow who are going to be able to do these extra works in the millennial.
01:03:45: No, it's not them.
01:03:46: It's those who weren't given the opportunity to do those things today.
01:03:53: The people who have this millennial time in order to reach this type of salvation, it's the ones that were not in the LDS organization trying to be obedient to the gospel ordinances and principles.
01:04:06: It's the other people.
01:04:33: Salvation is an individual matter, but exaltation is a family matter.
01:04:42: We have a loving Heavenly Father who will see that we receive every blessing and every advantage that our own desires and choices allow.
01:04:54: We also know that he will force no one into a sealing relationship against his or her will.
01:05:04: The blessings of a sealed relationship are assured for all who keep their covenants, but never by forcing a sealed relationship on another person who is unworthy or unwilling.
01:05:22: My dear brothers and sisters, I testify of the truth of these things.
01:05:28: I testify of our Lord Jesus Christ, the author and finisher of our faith, whose atonement under the plan of our Father in Heaven makes it all possible.
01:05:43: In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
01:05:49: Alright, so that was the end of that video.
01:05:52: Here's some things I want to end on.
01:05:54: So he said, the God who blesses us with the spiritual blessings, right? And he says, Jesus is the finisher of our faith.
01:06:01: There's so many contradictions there, even at the end there.
01:06:05: He doesn't say that Jesus actually finishes, he says he just makes it possible, right? Qualifying is up to you.
01:06:11: What have you become? That's what God's going to ask you upon that resurrection of the just and the unjust.
01:06:17: What have you become? That's what you're going to get.
01:06:20: Man, let's contrast that with actual scripture here.
01:06:23: What does it say? I was looking at my phone just to pull it up because I don't have it memorized.
01:06:27: Probably should memorize this.
01:06:28: It's so good.
01:06:28: But Ephesians chapter 1, I'm going to start in verse 3 here.
01:06:32: It says, Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before him.
01:06:48: In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ.
01:06:53: Let's do a full stop.
01:06:55: So we are blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.
01:06:59: Why? Because we're adopted into the family of God through what? The blood of Jesus Christ.
01:07:04: What does it mean to be adopted? It means that I'm not actually part of that family.
01:07:07: Ephesians 2 says that I'm a child of wrath like the rest of mankind.
01:07:13: But I'm adopted through the blood of Jesus Christ.
01:07:17: Why? Was it something I did? No.
01:07:19: Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before him.
01:07:28: In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ according to the purpose of my obedience.
01:07:35: No.
01:07:35: According to the purpose of his will.
01:07:38: To the praise of his glorious grace with which he has blessed us in the beloved.
01:07:42: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of his grace which he lavished upon us in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
01:08:05: In him we have obtained an inheritance having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the council of his will so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be the praise of his glory.
01:08:17: In him you also when you heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation and believed in him were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it to the praise of his glory.
01:08:29: So in my belief when I believe purely in Christ I am given the Holy Spirit who has sealed me and guarantees me my inheritance.
01:08:38: So I'm guaranteed my inheritance truly by Jesus Christ his blood through my faith with the Holy Spirit who has been given to me.
01:08:50: I will get possession of this.
01:08:52: I have been blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places not because of anything that I've done.
01:08:57: I'm not in the family of God because I was born that way.
01:09:01: No it's all through God and to God and for God by his glory to the purpose of his will.
01:09:09: I don't need to follow the gospel ordinances and principles in order to be lavished with the grace of God.
01:09:16: No that's the opposite of grace.
01:09:18: Grace is a gift.
01:09:20: I need to believe on him who justifies the ungodly while we were still sinners Christ died for us.
01:09:27: I can get every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places according to Ephesians chapter 1 solely through my belief in Jesus and in my belief in Jesus I'm given the gift of the Holy Spirit who is the helper who will be with me and make sure that I will one day stand before God justified by the righteous robes or by the blood of Jesus Christ wearing the righteous robes of Christ.
01:09:46: I love it.
01:09:47: I praise God.
01:09:48: That's the gospel right? Dallin I want you to know the gospel.
01:09:51: I want you to repent of false teaching of being a false prophet in a sense leading people astray to think that they can qualify to become God one day.
01:10:02: That's a false gospel.
01:10:04: It's not the truth.
01:10:06: Jesus was not the offspring of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother.
01:10:10: Jesus is the uncreated eternal God.
01:10:13: The same yesterday, today, and forever.
01:10:15: He was never an intelligence and then a spirit creature who took on flesh.
01:10:19: That's not what the Bible details who Jesus is.
01:10:23: It says in the beginning was the word.
01:10:24: The word was with God and the word was God.
01:10:25: Colossians 1 says he created all things in heaven and on earth visible and invisible whether thrones, dominions, rulers, or authorities.
01:10:32: All things were created by him and he is before all things and in him all things hold together.
01:10:36: It's a different Jesus and it's a different gospel.
01:10:39: Guys if you're LDS and you're listening to this you really need to listen to what they're saying in general conference and compare it to scripture.
01:10:45: If modern revelation contradicts previous revelation you're gonna have to reject this modern revelation is not a revelation at all.
01:10:54: Why would God contradict himself? Every word of God is pure.
01:10:58: He is like a shield unto them who put their faith in him.
01:11:01: Add thou not unto these words lest he rebuke you and thou shalt be found a liar.
01:11:05: Proverbs 35 through 6.
01:11:07: We can be sure through the testimony of God's word written by the Holy Spirit that the Old and New Testament is sufficient to know who God is.
01:11:18: In any form of quote unquote new revelation what it's going to do is it's going to try to change who Jesus is and who the gospel is and we heard that today.
01:11:27: We heard it today but we must reject it and we must stand firm in the testimony of Jesus Christ who was given to us by himself right by God taking on flesh making the father known to us recorded by the apostles.
01:11:42: That's it guys.
01:11:43: Anyways I hope you liked this video.
01:11:45: I was flying solo today.
01:11:46: You're probably like man Andrew you just mumbled the whole time.
01:11:49: I don't like anything you said.
01:11:51: That's okay.
01:11:52: Leave a comment.
01:11:52: You can tell me how I don't speak really well.
01:11:55: Guess what? I know I don't speak the best.
01:11:58: I was having fun though talking with you guys and yeah I hope you have a wonderful day and I pray that this was a blessing to you and that this talking head kind of just gets out of the way a little bit.
01:12:09: I know it's a little weird.
01:12:10: But hey thank you for joining us and we'll do this next time.
01:12:14: Talk to you later guys.