October 24, 2017 Show with Israel Wayne on “Questions Jesus Asks”

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This is Chris Arns and your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this 24th day

of October 2017 and Last week we had on the

program An excellent guest named Israel Wayne to address

the questions God asks.

Which is the title of one of his books this week or today?

I should say we are going to be addressing another book that he has written titled questions Jesus

asks and Israel Wayne is a conference speaker a regular columnist for homeschool digest

Homeschool enrichment and the old schoolhouse magazines.

He's a site editor for a Christian worldview net and an author of a number of books including

full -time parenting a guide to family -based discipleship and pitching a fit

Overcoming angry and stressed out parenting and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron

sharpens iron radio.

Israel Wayne.

Well, thank you brother.

To be back and.

If anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own our email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

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The USA and only remain anonymous.

It's about a personal and private matter over which you are asking.

And.

Just for the sake especially of those Who have not heard

you interviewed before Israel.

Tell us something about your work with the homeschool movement and

also Christian worldview net.

Yes, well in publishing for the past 25 years, I've

been a conference

speaker since 1995.

My wife and I both were home educated and her family

started involved

in the

Christian world

website Which is one of the

larger Christian apologetics sites on the Internet for 15 years or so

and defending the Christians.

The book is kind of a

few geology and apology trying to establish

a more biblical understanding of.

Now I know this is not the topic that we are discussing today primarily but just to give Some

of our listeners who may be completely ignorant about what is going on in the public school system.

In the 21st century their kids may have be maybe already grown

and so there are things going on that were not going on when their own children were in public

school and Perhaps there's some things that they need to know about because of their grandchildren or great -grandchildren.

Could you summarize just some of the things that our

listeners should be alarmed about in in a briefest possible fashion since it's not

the the main topic today.

But I think it might be very important for our listeners to have some gist of the things that you're trying to

protect them from.

Right.

Well certainly within the last five years.

We've seen an increase in Common Core, which is a push towards international

Standards that are coming down through national standards and and a greater involved that

certainly is a trend in the wrong direction.

Moving us more towards the global of the reintroduction

of revised speaking.

I mean, we've had sexual relative new

transgen

that you

know.

These are

they're

non -existent

enough for Christian parents to on

your show

parents or grandparents or

and one

thing that I have

had.

Disagreement with or disagreement over I should say with some of my

fellow Bible -believing conservative Christians.

Is.

They will say in great number.

We need to bring prayer back into the public school.

We need to bring The Bible back into the public school.

Well It's one thing if you're talking about the the freedom of

children To read their Bible and to pray while in public school, but it's an altogether different thing

to want Pagans to be leading your children in prayer and

Saying anything about what the Bible teaches to me.

It's just bizarre how conservative Evangelical Bible -believing Christians should would want

those things in public school systems when you're the teacher could be anything

from an active homosexual to a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness or

a New Age advocate or could be anything.

Why on earth would you want a teacher or a school principal to have anything to do with your your

child's spiritual life?

In a public school setting.

Well, it really is the parents job to teach values and faith to their children.

The problem is that education is not religiously neutral and so someone's faith and

values are going to be promoted and somebody else's faith and values are always going to be minimized and neutralized

and.

The current trend is the Christianity is the faith and the religion that will be marginalized neutralized.

And so in my my view.

This is why having parents be completely entirely in control of their own children's education

is obviously

the

better you're going to.

Amen.

Well, let's move on now to your book questions Jesus asks and

just because of the fact that there may be some who are Puzzled as to why you would have a

book titled questions God asks and then another book titled questions

Jesus asks they may be puzzled and wrongly think You believe that Jesus is

not God.

Obviously, I know you do if you could just explain why you have the two books.

Where some might jump to the wrong conclusion that there would be different questions asked

because Jesus is Not God, they might think you believe and obviously Jesus would have

unique questions that the other members of the Trinity might not have because of the fact that Jesus

although being fully God he was since his incarnation also fully man

and He had a different role in The salvation of sinners than the

Father and the Holy Spirit have.

So there would be unique questions, obviously.

But if you could tell us about the why the two books.

Yes, well, I would certainly encourage anyone who didn't get to hear our previous interview talking about questions God

asks to please look through the archives and Listen to that broad

questions.

God asks came out of a Bible study that I was doing personally just reading through the Old Testament and I

began to notice frequent occasions when God asked people.

Really seemed odd to me because one of the doctrines we know to be true of God

is that he is omniscient.

He knows all things and so when God is asking Abraham where is your wife Sarah.

And he's asking Balaam who are these men with you.

And He's asking Adam in the garden.

Where are you and all these questions?

It seems like it's just an odd thing for God to do and so I started to ask myself

Why those questions were there?

Because we know that God never does anything arbitrary if God is

asking a question.

There's a purpose in it.

He doesn't use meaningless words.

Jesus talked about how we would be judged on Judgment Day for

every so

we know that God won't buy

he's asking many times.

We will ask a question of them rather than telling them what to think or you know.

Giving them an obvious solution to something call them out and to

help them think through the process and God does

that finds 19 different questions the old

the major

talk to be addressed in these

questions that God asked and

So I put together 20 questions from

the

New Testament

predominantly

to write

and I

think.

Amen, by the way, I found the copy of your book that I was looking for.

So I do have I do have that in front of me now as many of our listeners know

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that I have the book here but I think something that you might want to

Bring up in the beginning as you did in your book in the introduction is Answering the question

was Jesus omniscient.

This is something that seemed to Come up last time.

We had you on on a number of occasions, even though our specific

Theme was the the title of your first book questions God asked people were asking a lot about Jesus

Christ because there are things that are hard for us to fathom Because of the fact

that the hypostatic Union brings about things that I think

some Issues in regard to that are a mystery to us until we are

in glory.

But if you could tell us about the omniscience of Jesus Christ.

Yeah, that's a super question.

It was one that I really struggled with in terms of figuring out how to address it within the book.

Because I was writing the book actually the conversation with a guy in my church and I

was telling him about the book and how I was writing it and He asked me do you

believe that Jesus was omniscient and I said, well, of course he was omniscient.

He said well, what would you base that on?

And I said, well, he's divine.

He's God and God is omniscient and Jesus is not less God and there

are divine attributes that That clearly describe

and define who God is and separate him from everyone else and I said for

example, you know, God is eternal.

He is Omniscient he knows all things.

He's omnipotent.

He's all -powerful.

He's omnipresent.

He's everywhere and and I said these are things that That God.

That and well, and he's perfectly holy, right?

And so these are things that are that are not

attributes of anything.

That's not God or anyone.

That's not God these are non transfer and So so we have

what we call the transferable or communicable attributes of God and the non communicable.

So if you made

him and the idea is that God does communicate

Nature and character to us

in any way

that belongs.

I was talking

to this guy in

my church.

He said well, you know, it's interesting but Jesus was not omnipresent.

Attributes didn't utilize those even

though he said this

was not

omnipresent.

I don't know exactly What I think of that and and so I started to really lay

all my priests.

Oh, what does this and so

there are some things that give us it built the

viewpoint that perhaps Jesus and

grow and learn in some capacity one of the places we see that is in Luke

2 was that he increased in

wisdom and stature and in favor with God and man.

Infinite wisdom does not increase infinite wisdom by definition doesn't grow

than Hebrews 5 8 Learn

in what way did he need to learn

and learn things and

you know Myself when Jesus was two years

old, you know, how to be potty -trained automatically.

Did he know not to touch him?

Did he know how to speak every language?

It was known to humankind.

Could he build furniture perfectly as a young child?

Right exactly

to the teachers of the law

that which really shows

that he asked his own parents.

He said didn't you know that I would be in my father's house.

It reveals that he had some divine revelation he had some knowledge about who he was even

at the age of 12 and.

And so what I want to communicate here and kind of bottom line this we can come back to it.

But I just want to bottom line it for every two things that that I want us to consider very

carefully.

Number one.

I like what you said about the fact that there is some mystery to Understanding

God and I think that's healthy.

I think it's important for us to remember that if we think that we can completely and

Totally understand it with our

arrogance.

What we can know

is we can know everything that we need to know right the scripture tells us that he's given us everything that we need to know

for life and godliness and.

So we have the knowledge that we need to know the thing that we know of course is that?

Jesus was completely God even from Conception and that there

was never a point in time where he ceased to be God and so at no point is

Jesus did it you know

as a human and learn and develop and yet still be divine.

It's something that is a bit of a mystery to us.

But I think we don't in any way have to quote he was

because it's right even though God is.

Immutable Unchangeable.

There was still was something different that occurred within the divine Godhead is

that the second person of the Trinity the the Son of God who existed from

all eternity.

There was never a beginning with Jesus Christ, but there was a beginning of his humanness

at his conception.

Yeah, the incarnation yeah.

Yeah, a great point.

Yeah, I'm immutable.

Immutability also being one of those non communicable attributes of God.

It's what makes God God and separates him from everything else.

It is not God.

God does not change.

And yet we see that Jesus grew in stature as well.

And so there is this divine mystery, and that's why their

divinity meets humanity.

Because we do have the tension that goes on here trying to understand what it's like.

And there

are questions

someone

touched

me

for I

perceive that power has gone out from here.

You know when he when

he asks my God

my God the hour

of the return of

the Son of Man.

No one knows not

even the

angels of

heaven address

them

and

grow.

And I think that

we should also make it clear.

That whatever limitations Jesus Christ as a man

Voluntarily brought upon himself on this earth We could rest assured that those limitations do

not exist.

Now that he is seated at the right hand of the Father and ruling and reigning in heaven he is just as

omniscient and omnipotent and omnipresent as the Father and the Holy

Ghost.

Yes, absolutely.

I'd like to look at a couple of verses here if we have time.

Yes.

Okay, about

that.

They're all things have been handed over to me.

I'm asking on my own as I hear I judge my

not my own will.

An 828 says I do nothing on my own authority.

Commandment

reliance and then in

John 10 17 loves me because I've laid down my life that I may take it up again.

No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own

charge.

I received from my father.

He became obedient even though he was in very nature.

God obedient to death even to

death.

Incredible almighty all -powerful all -knowing God.

Chasm of space and time to come and.

And to become like one of us to save us.

Scandal if you will understand.

Amen.

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our listener questions.

We have Joe in Slovenia Who says dear brother Chris, I can't tell you how

much your great topics and guests bless me each day.

My brother my question for brother Israel is how important is it for us to determine and distinguish

between Jesus's questions?

For communication effect and lack of knowledge that is if it can be assumed that Jesus lacks

some knowledge about various topics Recorded for us in Scripture as an example when he said

Where have you laid him in reference to Lazarus's body in John 11 34?

Was he unaware of the location of Lazarus's body or was this a rhetorical question for effect

and How important if at all is it for us to discern this distinction

in similar texts for interpretation and application?

Purposes.

Thanks so much for taking my question.

Well,

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you

Joe for your

question

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wonderful question

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that

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Pray

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and

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them

it's

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convenient.

He sees a

need and

he just

that information that he wanted to have

access

the

human

in the narrative.

That he shows us how he saw people and he was moved with compassion.

He saw need he asked quest

trying to give us an example of

how we as

humans and then In addition

their

biases

their

preconceived

ideas that

pretty

well.

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says.

You surely don't mean Jesus is following the inductive method of teaching or Socratic

method.

I purchased an international inductive study Bible and there were no study notes.

It was up to me to give the scriptures meaning I intended a Bible study that was based on the Socratic

method and it was a guessing game as For me, I prefer to be taught not

questioned about what I don't know.

Please separate the questions Jesus asked from either the inductive or Socratic method if possible.

Thank you, David and Ada, Ohio.

Well.

Yeah, isn't that isn't that basic?

Yeah, isn't it basically to ask a question to really get people to think deeper about an issue.

It's not really because the question is being asked out of ignorance.

Right, yeah, the

question

is a

method of to learn

how to ask people

is on a

bus.

One

time

I was

talking valid

religion Christianity is a valid religion

Christianity

teaching

that anyone

doesn't

have access

to be

in

hell.

So he said

no, that's not what I believe.

Teachers are true right.

All in Christ

Christianity teachers.

Eventually he became frustrated and he could see the contradiction.

And I think you see Jesus

doing.

Yeah, when people start to this would typically be a a Liberal

individual and of course liberals aren't all alike because you have liberals that disdain any notion of

religion.

But you have a religious liberal who will make the claim that all religions are equally valid and I

have said to them Oh, you mean like the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, which is the Church

of the white supremacist movement the Aryan nations.

No, not then.

Well, what are you talking about?

Then?

How can you if everything is the same and equally valid?

How can you rule them out?

You're using some kind of discernment to exclude a group from this this

theory that you have and it's obviously it's it's a unattainable theory that is

ridiculous at its root because There are religions that have diametrically opposed

teachings.

So you can't have everything being the same or equally valid.

Yeah, exactly.

Let me just go back to the question for a minute.

I think the concern might be that.

Maybe I'm reading more into the question than what is there?

But I've heard people express concern along this line that you know, surely Jesus is not

Eulotic

method and surely Jesus

Socrates.

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And We have Daniel in San Jose, California.

Who asks.

Hello again brothers.

Could you ask Israel Wayne to explain the significance of what seems to be Jesus's

rhetorical question in Matthew 19?

For when he says have you not read?

Jesus knew that they have read the scriptures.

Was this an attempt to tear down the Pharisees who tried to trap the Son of God?

Also answering Questions with questions in order to clarify presuppositions is a

great form of apologetics.

Are we as Christians? Justified in asking these rhetorical questions.

That would seem to be harsh on the service.

And he has another question.

Then I'll ask if do you address that?

Yeah, you know, I think there are some questions and maybe one that would even be a little more stark than that is.

When Jesus asks the disciples, are you still have

you been with me and you still don't understand?

And so, you know, we may feel a little thing of

Jesus quite

really want

to

down in this.

I have

mental

roadblocks, you

know education

issue taking

one facing

our

beliefs

oftentimes

on

cultural paradigms

rather

and.

Daniel also asks, are you having any homeschool conferences around the San Jose, California

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My wife and I would love to attend.

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would.

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We are back with our guest, Israel Wayne, and we are discussing his

book, Questions Jesus Asks, and if you'd like to join us on the air, our email

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I want to give, I want to read a commendation for this book that was written by one of my

very favorite Christian recording artists, Michael Card, Michael Card

who has always been known not only for beautiful Christian music, but also for

very deep and biblically faithful lyrics, which is something that is sadly

lacking in much of contemporary Christian music.

Michael Card has always stood out amongst the pack as

someone who is more deep and thought -provoking in regard to

the meat of the lyrics, the biblical meat in his songs.

And he has said about this book, someone once said, there is more learning in

the question than in the answer.

Jesus of Nazareth understood this.

He is known for responding to questions with even more difficult questions.

Most often, he offered himself as the answer.

Israel Wayne seeks to gain as many answers as he can from the meaningful questions of Jesus.

I think that that commendation helps really explain the reason and the

content of this book that you've written, Israel.

And I would love to get Michael Card on the program, by the way, if you want to let him know that.

I would love to have him as a guest on Iron Trip and Zyron Radio.

Well, I'm sure he'd be glad to do it.

He's very insightful.

Yes.

In fact, he wrote a book, and the book title, I think, is Slave,

very similar to the title of a book that John MacArthur wrote.

But he wrote a book where he included the story of a slave owner

who loved one of his slaves so much that he allowed this slave, who was a talented

carpenter, to purchase his freedom by selling furniture and also purchase the freedom of

his wife.

And then when that slave died, he gave that slave a place of honor in the family

cemetery.

He was buried amongst, the master had the slave buried amongst

his own family in the cemetery with a statue paying tribute to the slave.

And Michael Card put this in his book.

And then after I read this, about two weeks later, a dear friend of mine

had went home to be with the Lord.

He was from England originally, and he was living in Tennessee.

And I called his wife to offer my condolences, and she said, well,

Nigel is buried in a very interesting place.

We used to take walks every week through this beautiful cemetery.

And one day, the owner of the property came out and asked why we would

be regularly visiting that cemetery.

And we told him that it reminds us of one of the beautiful quaint country cemeteries in England where we're

from.

And the owner of the property said, well, when you leave this earth and enter

into glory, we would be honored to have you buried here.

And Barbara said, and Nigel was buried in the cemetery next to a statue paying tribute

to a slave who his master allowed to sell furniture to purchase his freedom.

This is just like two weeks after I read this.

When I told Michael Card this, he was absolutely blown away.

He couldn't believe the providence of that.

But yeah, I had chills.

That's when Barbara Stone, who is the widow I was speaking about, told

me this.

By the way, the book by Michael Card is called A Better Freedom, Finding Life as Slaves of Christ.

That's the full title of Michael Card's book.

But we are discussing the book, Questions Jesus Asks.

And if you'd like to join us, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at

gmail .com.

And we have a question from B .B. in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.

And B .B. asks, when we ask

questions of people that we are witnessing to, shouldn't we do the

same thing that Jesus did to get them to really think harder and more deeply

about the differences they have with us?

Should we merely be letting them take us on rabbit trails, as unbelievers often do,

by bombarding us with questions?

Shouldn't we be asking them questions of our own to bring them back to the

focus of Jesus Christ and the gospel?

So many times, unbelievers dominate our conversations, and we wind up being tongue -tied

and taken away from the central issue at hand, which is the issue on which

hinges the eternity of these people we are talking to.

Seeing

the

questions, in

many ways,

is in

the

driver,

certainly, I

think, of timing to

ask.

Well, thank you, B .B.

You've also won a free copy of Questions Jesus Asks.

So please give us your full mailing address there in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.

In fact, since you're in the same vicinity as Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service in

Carlisle, why don't you just stop by there and pick up the free book yourself?

It's probably within minutes of where you live.

Thank you very much for joining us on the air today.

Well, one of the questions that you start the book with, a very

important question that Jesus asks, who do people say that I am?

If you could respond to that.

I wanted to include this one first, really, on the Doctrine

Foundation, if we're going

to

study

a

book,

if you

want

to impress

upon it a

teacher,

you know,

they're

in

the

United

States.

And we have a clarifying question

that David from Ada, Ohio, has for us.

I believe he was the one that asked about the Socratic and inductive reasoning.

Let's see here.

Just a point of clarification on my question.

It appears in the two study methods that they have been used to ask questions that the

person addressed doesn't know the answer to, i .e., lacks knowledge of.

However, if the person does know the answer and you're drawing on the knowledge of the person, that is a different

situation.

In some studies I referenced, it was obvious nobody knew how to answer the question.

For example, a question was asked and nobody answered.

I spoke up and said I was going to wait and hear what the teacher had written as the answer.

The teacher said he didn't have an answer.

We spent a lot of time not really learning, just questioning and supposing the passage could

mean this or that.

Thanks, I liked your answer, but I didn't clarify my previous question.

Sorry.

I wonder if Jesus taught differently than the teacher of the five -fold ministry he implemented

for the church.

Well, I'm not a teacher, a Bible teacher or a group

that you want to bring people to answers.

So in my book, I think

that's great because it causes someone's

hunger and thirst to study more deeply,

not

just to

have their

own

answers,

their questions.

Well, let's move on to a question that Jesus asked that is

connected with his virgin birth.

Didn't you know?

Yeah, I thought that

would be my

father.

I just think it's fast.

He presumes that she would know this, that she would understand this, and well, of course she understood.

And how did she know?

How did she understand?

She understood it because she knew who he was, and she married

as Jesus was.

And she knew.

It really has been discredited in some ways within our religion

about the virgin birth anymore.

In fact, I read a book a while back, you know, I'm just going to

state my view on the radio.

You can, you know, bleep me out if you have to, but a heretic named Rob Bell, who...

I'm not going to complain with you.

Okay.

I understand Christians have different views on these things, but I'm just going to say.

He's a heretic.

But he was teaching that if you found out that Jesus wasn't really virgin born, and that he was just,

you know, the son of Hebrew people, he said there's still a lot of really good reasons to be a Christian,

even if Jesus isn't virgin born.

Well, frankly, I can't think of any.

If Jesus is not virgin born, then he's not divine.

And if he's not divine, he's not God.

And if he's not God, then his death on the cross means absolutely nothing.

...dead in our

trespasses and

said,

you know,

we need to stop...

Yeah.

How about looking at it like a book that has stood the test of time for 2 ,000 years.

In fact, longer than that, if you include the old Hebrew scriptures.

But it's interesting that you brought that up, because I have had

conversations with even conservative Bible -believing evangelicals, and

on a couple of occasions I was surprised and it might be because they didn't really think through

what they were going to say before they said it, but I have heard a

couple of men say, well, if they found the bones of Jesus, I would

just have to go to a plan B as to what I believe about the resurrection.

I'm like, what?

I mean, what are you talking about?

I mean, Paul said we are men most miserable.

I mean, that's an absurd way of looking at it.

As if the claims of enemies of Christ are supposed to alter the truths of Scripture

and the Gospel.

Yeah, at that point, not only are we dead in our trespasses and

a liar, but a good moral preacher at that point.

Right.

I mean, he's caught in the history of humankind

and

it

should be

him.

Amen. Amen.

And here we move on to a question that comes up in a lot of my

conversations with Roman Catholics.

Jesus asks, who are my mother and brothers?

If you could explain.

Yeah.

Well,

it's

interesting

because

Jesus

seems

relatively

many

cases

are.

Yeah, I can never figure out how our Roman Catholic friends, other than the fact that obviously

people are blind until they are regenerate and they can't see things that we who

are born again look upon as obvious.

But in Luke 11, you have that remarkable occurrence

where Luke 11 and starting in verse 27, while Jesus was saying these things, one of

the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, blessed is the womb that bore

you and the breasts at which you nursed.

But he, Jesus said, on the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of

God and observe.

It.

It's just remarkable how people could still hold up Mary to the

level of adoration and which I believe is idolatry

that they do and completely ignore such a clear and obvious passage.

Yes.

Obviously,

Jesus

put

the

highest

Jesus

humanity.

Jesus.

Yeah.

And it's it's absolutely mind boggling that Mary, one of the proofs that she

was not sinless that Mary, even though she knew from the angel that

she was going to conceive the Son of God, she still was

joining her sons in questioning his sanity.

She was with them when they were trying to get Jesus back

home and reign him in from preventing himself from acting like a madman.

It's very bizarre.

It's a family intervention, essentially.

Yeah.

They were trying to stage a family intervention and Jesus had no part of it.

He wasn't going to be deterred from his mission.

Yeah.

And obviously, Mary was in sin when she was questioning the one whom she already knew was

conceived of the Holy Spirit.

Very strange, indeed.

But we are going to our final break right now.

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If you'd like to join us before we run out of time with a question, our email address is chrisornsen at gmail

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One of the questions that you have in your book is what are you

seeking in regard to discipleship, if you could explain?

In John chapter 1, we have this account and

what it

is

that

they

question, I really try to

have a

lot of people

that want

to be

Christian to be healthy,

well, understand

that means that he's a king, he

does not.

Man, what

are we

seeking?

Amen, and you move on to a question which is

one of those biblical references that seems to be globally

known even by many outside of Christianity who have a very

cursory knowledge of what the Bible teaches,

what will it profit a man?

Interesting quick story about that is that a friend of mine, Rich

Romano, who happens to be the Christian brother of world -renowned

comedian Ray Romano.

When Ray got his job as the lead in

the sitcom Everybody Loves Raymond and he was moving away from New York

to California Rich put a note in his wallet that said

I hope you never forget this with all the fame and fortune that may accompany your trip to

California and it was that text, what will profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own

soul, and I was very surprised that Ray actually took that out of his wallet and read it

on the Oprah Winfrey show and said that he carries that note with him wherever he goes.

I hope that actually has more meaning to Ray than just sentimentality, but anyway, if you could

tell us about this.

Reference that you have.

It's fascinating that Jesus talked so much about money and about finances.

We often think that Jesus only talked about love

and

time

and talent.

And a question that you move on to

right after that is, well actually you already addressed

who touched me, let's move on to.

Do you want to get well?

Yeah, do you want to get well in the

chapter on emotional healing.

And people really struggle, you

know, to

trust

him

we

don't

like,

don't get

healed, pain

and

struggle

are

important.

Well God

does

have...

Amen, and.

How about the question, why are you afraid.

I have to admit that even though I firmly believe in Jesus Christ I

believe in the sovereignty of God, I believe that everything that happens is according to his decree, and yet I

find myself being filled with anxiety and fear about things all the time.

Not proud of that, but tell us about this question, why are you.

Afraid?

Yeah, you know, I did a voice

and it

really

biologically,

walking

down the

street

in

obedience.

Now here

is a

question.

That kind of sends chills up my arms when I think about it.

But Jesus asking, what is your name in regarding.

To the demoniac?

Yeah, you know this is really a question that may have been.

You know,

we tend

to be

sometimes Christian rationalists the

Bible

teaches on this, but...

We have

a

question

in regard

to

that.

From Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County Long Island New York, he wants to know, do you believe

that a truly born again Christian can be demon possessed.

Absolutely

not,

and things

like

when you are occupied, when you are filled with...

Well thank

you

Ronald, you have

also.

Won a free copy of Questions Jesus Asks so please make sure we have your full mailing address

in Eastern Suffolk County Long Island New York.

And if you could, I want you to have five minutes of uninterrupted time where you can summarize what

you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today.

Okay, well one thing

I'd love

to do is to

go over just the money

and finance.

Why

are you

afraid?

Has no one

condemned you?

Do you

love

me?

And this

is really

a question he

asks on the resurrection

and then

communicatory,

John

17 3, this is what

we're

going to do

to know

him

better.

Amen,

well I want

to

make sure that our

listeners.

Have all of the information they need to order your books and to get into

contact with you.

First of all we want to thank again our friends at New Leaf Publishing Group and Master

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Trip and Zion Radio from Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service cvbbs .com

and christianworldview .net is a website of our guest, Israel Wayne

christianworldview .net.

Do you have any other contact.

Information that you care to give, Israel?

Yes, I would encourage people if they'd like to sign up for my email list, they can do so at familyrenewal .org

forward slash subscribe.

Familyrenewal .org forward slash subscribe.

If you're interested in having me speak at your church or

event, please contact us at familyrenewal events at gmail .com.

Also please check us out on familyrenewal and forward slash.

IsraelWaynauthor.

I'm also on Twitter at IsraelWaynauthor.

I'd love to be able to keep in touch with you.

Through those methods.

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That's for the Iron Trip and Zion Radio Pastors Luncheon this Thursday October 26 11 a .m. to 2 p .m.

at the Carlisle Fire and Rescue Banquet Hall in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, featuring keynote

speaker Bill Shishko, who is on the faculty at Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary in Taylors,

South Carolina, and also our guest of honor will be Steve Bloom, who is Pennsylvania State

Representative and candidate for Congress, and much more than both of those things, he's a dedicated

Bible -believing born -again Christian.

I want to thank everybody who listened today, especially those who took the time to write in questions and I want you all

to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.