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All right well let's jump into it today. We're gonna go back into the Ruslan KD interview. I'm having a great time with it so I know there's a segment of my viewership that does not like this so sorry but we're gonna continue.
We're not gonna do again this week this will be the last time this week before I do let me just show you my son's latest marketing attempt. This is his newest poster and this is a picture of our family.
You can see where I am at the top. That's what he thinks I look like. I think it's pretty good. I think it's pretty good. Nobody has a nose which is fine. And then he put himself in between him and his mother.
His mother's on the right hand side and you can see that it's a girl cuz slightly longer hair although not very much hair and then longer eyelashes. And then it says come and get some books. And then it has his brothers in the bottom.
I think this is really good. If you like this marketing material and you want to purchase a book please email me at ad at ad roblox .com and I will make sure that AJ gets a commission for his efforts here he is trying to save up for a game that I think the game will be really funny and actually we'll be able to do some video content on the game we'll talk about which game it is.
If he earns enough money for it but he's about halfway there. I would say so that's good. And then also I wanted to say this I got my first purchase using a silver coin. This is an American silver eagle.
If you've never seen one this is an ounce of gold or not gold silver now it's a gold be $2 ,000. That'd be that'd be a lot of books. This is an ounce of silver right now this coin is going for you know $40 and per coin the the denomination of it every coin is denominated.
This is a dollar coin. So this is legal tender for a dollar but this is worth about $40 and so I'm sending him a handful of books and he also sent me another coin. I still have it in the the protector.
Just as a tip just as a thank you for the YouTube channel. I'm grateful to have it. This is my first sale for precious metals and so if you I don't need American silver eagle these are the best ones in my opinion.
But if you just have regular silver I'll send you books for silver as well and I'll give you a good deal and potentially some bonuses as well. So very excited to get an American silver eagle in the mail.
Actually too for in exchange for some books that's that's some good stuff man I love that. I love that nobody's opted to pay in Bitcoin yet. But I think that that's probably because I priced the books at like $100 a book with Bitcoin it's too volatile.
By the time I get the Bitcoin it might be worth 50 bucks. I mean who knows I don't know how you Bitcoiners do it man you you hold you hodlers hodlers hodlers hodlers. I don't know how to pronounce it.
It's a made-up word anyway but you guys that just plan on holding your Bitcoin forever. I don't know how you do it man you get like one day it's like a 20 swing even more sometimes. It's just not for me.
It's not for me. That kind of volatility is not for me. I don't mind some volatility. I do own some things that are a bit volatile but the things that I own that are a bit volatile also have other uses you know.
So like like like I'm not saying this is one of my volatile holdings. It's my house. But there's an example of something that doesn't matter if it's volatile. Like if my house price was volatile it wouldn't matter because I'm gonna use the house.
You can use it for income. You can use it for yourself like Bitcoin. It's like well what do you use it for. If like the price swings up and down it's not nothing. Not the most interesting thing at least in my opinion.
But you guys many the volatility is a way to make money. Definitely if you're if you're willing to take the risk and it is tremendously risky. But but yeah look at that beautiful beautiful check out the back.
I don't know if I showed you the back yet they're actually changing the design of this this year. So they made some of these this year but they actually have a new design coming out this year. I don't know if I'll pick up any there.
They are very expensive but I do like silver. So anyway let's jump into it. Let's get into it before I do let me say this I made a mistake in a previous video and a couple you called me on it and you're right.
Paul was not saying to hand over a repentant sinner to the first Satan to the for the destruction of the flesh. That repentant sinners still need to be punished for their crimes but they're not being handed over to Satan.
That's totally different. If I did say that I didn't look back to see if I actually did say that. I don't think I did but if I did I was wrong. That's not what I meant to say. Anyway let's continue some extremely oh let me get the video here and the right thing I should always prepare this ahead time but I never do here we go.
There's way more to it than what we're seeing. The right the left like you know.
Sure yeah I agree with you but I definitely don't agree with you it is so.
Annoying so I don't have a problem with that. In particular I think Saudi Arabia could be the logical conclusion. I think folks in power who are even Christian.
Could abuse that power. How in the world could Saudi Arabia be the logical conclusion of implementing the law of God. Like like Ruslan has a particularly low view of God's law. Like God's law is not the same as Islamic law.
Not even close. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like why would he think that. Why would he think that. Well because he's believed a lot of the atheist propaganda. And then he says well I think that potentially you know a government could abuse their power.
And like people often say this like they could abuse their power. I'm like yeah. Obviously. But pagan governments also abuse their power and they have a horrible law. So you've got a couple options here.
You've got imperfect people implementing a perfect law or imperfect people implementing a horrible law. Which one do you want. You know what I mean. Like obviously we can't sit. We can't have perfect people in power.
It's not possible. Christ is perfect and when he returns he'll be perfect and implement perfect justice and it'll be perfect equity and all that stuff. We get that. But that's not an argument against God's law.
Because it it cuts both ways. So you've got sinners implementing God's law or sinners implementing a sinful law. Which one do you want to choose. It's obvious that you'd want to choose God's law because God's law is perfect even if we can only implement it imperfectly.
I think it. Yes. I think it can be.
Problematic. I'm not and I'm not not and I'm not saying that we have the best form of government or any of that kind of stuff as it is right now. I don't know the exact solutions to something like that.
Specifically what I would say is that uh when we're talking with solutions right. This is this is this is my heart. When we're talking solutions I would go point back to the Augustine quote unity in the essentials liberty any non essentials charity and all.
Things but I think I would say that justice is an essential okay not in terms of salvation but the role of government to enforce justice like.
That's essential. Yes 100 So here's that here's the truth here because this is something a lot of people need to hear and I'm not gonna make any friends here you know on the channel by saying this.
But it's true. You see the Great Commission is way more expansive than we think it is because we often make it only about conversion and it is about conversion. So let's not you know let's not pretend like it isn't.
When he says go and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Christ is talking about conversion. So convert the nations by baptizing them. You know what I mean you make disciples and baptize them.
That's that's a very you know it's formulaic. But there's obviously a lot more to it. But but that's conversion. Right. Okay now. But it doesn't only say that. Right. What doesn't only say that. And I had a guy say hey AD this is this is a guy used to make a lot of videos about me.
He said ID like like show me the Great Commission for a theonomy the God's law and I'm like you don't need a Great Commission for a theonomy because it's already inclusive in the Great Commission. Because it goes on to say after you convert the nations.
Right. So conversion is first conversions primary. So we understand that's first gospel gets preached. People get converted. People get baptized. We get it we get it right. And babies get baptized too.
And so we start there. Then it says teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded lo I will be with you to the end of the age. This is the point the discipleship process. You get converted and then you learn to obey everything.
So justice is an integral part of that. Justice does not establishing justice doesn't convert you. You've already been converted. If you've been baptized you know you believe the gospel you get baptized and all of that.
You've already been converted. You're now a Christian and now you're being taught to observe everything that is inclusive of justice. That's inclusive of the role of government. All of that is included already.
So so it's not an either-or and it's not against each other. That has to be part of our essentials. Because if we say well you know we got never really spoke about you know what to do in the case of someone murdering someone else and we pretend like that's the case.
Then all kinds of shenanigans are gonna happen as a result of that. Plus it's a lie. Plus God won't bless that because you're disobeying him because he's most definitively said what to do in the case of someone murdering someone else.
And so that's our problem right. Now that's our problem. So we can't have unity or charity. When somebody says yeah I don't think murderers should be punished like and furthermore I think we should celebrate murderers.
Like if somebody were to say that and people do say this in our culture. This is not theoretical. This happens in our culture. A lot of Ruslan's buddies say this exact thing. We can't have unity or charity for that no quarter for that.
That's evil. Obviously that's evil. It's it's embarrassing to even say that that we should make no quarter for people who don't think murderers should be punished. That's.
Insane. And so the question we have to ask is is for example is a speeding ticket according to God's law just yeah or is a hundred to one coke versus crack disparity just a hundred percent yeah. So how do we define like so the Bible says that the the government is to terrorize those who do evil and reward.
Those who do good. He's been he's been waiting for that one now. Yeah for what.
It is to terrorize someone or to bring justice on those who do evil right. So what what is the bad guys what is justice. Right. And so we talk about like systems of like injustice. Like like like somebody being hungry or poor is not an injustice because it's not evil to be poor it's not evil to be to be hungry like that.
This is where I think a lot of this confusion comes in. Like what does it mean we want we want on matters of justice. Well matters of justice is is bringing terror on those who actually do wicked and harm.
Okay I think you have a.
Very specific definition. That's going back to scripture. What was it. Which I'm not mad at. Which I'm not mad at. So and so. Let's let's play that out to the logical conclusion. Let's do it. If a police officer kills someone and they're in the line of duty and we we look at and we go.
Hmm. That wasn't necessary in that situation. We could all look at the footage. We could all look at the extent of the situation. We say that's not right. That's not just right. They need to be.
Held accountable right. Yeah. And and he's played a little fast and loose with language here. I don't appreciate that Russell. And it's very weasley so no I actually don't think it matters if you don't.
If you personally don't think that that was necessary. What what matters though is is is it lawful right. Is it a lawful killing or is it not a lawful killing because the Bible very specifically outlines what a lawful killing is versus what an unlawful killing is.
And we can extrapolate from that. And we can we can get the general equity of what the the case laws of God's law say and we can extrapolate that to other situations and things like that. So that comes directly from the Bible.
It doesn't really matter if you happen to think it was necessary or unnecessary. What matters is is it lawful. Okay. And I know I'm insisting on specific words here but I think Ruslan's you know playing a little fast and loose here to his advantage.
No I disagree. It doesn't matter what you think is necessary or not. Is it lawful. You know one of the one of the famous examples of this in the scripture is if a thief comes to your house at night and you kill that thief you have no blood guilt.
Right. And the idea I think that God's law is is is is telling us is like hey you didn't know what he was there for he could have been coming to kill you or to hurt your wife or something like that. And so you know whatever happens happens he entered your house.
You shouldn't have been there. Right. And you didn't know what's happy was nighttime. You don't know you're probably sleeping. So the idea there is that there's reasonable doubt or reasonable reasonable explanations as to why you had to kill that man.
Well you're off the hook. You're off the hook. Like if somebody if I'm if I'm carrying right if I'm carrying in the street and somebody goes for my gun right and I kill him because he went for my gun there's a reasonable look that guy was gonna kill me.
It was kill or be killed. He went for my gun. You know what I mean like like that's a reasonable killing. I don't care if Ruslan thinks oh that was a nest that was that necessary dog like that actually doesn't matter.
We don't need to judge that we just need to judge. Is it lawful. Is it a lawful killing. And God's law gives us examples case laws in this case we do this in that case we do that like he gives us case laws that we can extrapolate principles from that that go along with those with those case laws and so it's a small thing.
But I think it makes a big difference. It's not about whether it was necessary or not. It's was it lawful or not. That's the key. That's the key if it's unlawful though I agree with Ruslan. If it's an unlawful killing they should be punished as any citizen would be punished.
It's not. There's no special treatment for them. There's no special punishments for them. There's no more lenient sentences for police officers. No. If it's an unlawful killing we take the law of God again and we say okay what's the punishment for a murder.
Or for first-degree murder or for manslaughter or whatever this. And there's differences in the Bible between manslaughter and murder. So we need to also adjudicate that. Okay. We need to adjudicate that.
And then we give them that penalty. There's no. There's no. There's no difference between a police.
Officer and a regular citizen. Correct. Yes. Okay. So so out of to the year 2005 since since 2005 there's been over 15 ,000 police killings. Okay in general I think we would agree. The vast majority of those were probably justified.
The vast majority of those were justified. Yeah how you know how many convictions.
They were since 2005. How many. Seven. Yeah. Derek Chauvin was the seventh. So so just.
Just to be clear what's his point maybe Marcus is gonna ask him here when we.
Talk about these sort of things. I'm very very anti police state so my I would be more okay. Yeah I'm trying to I'm trying to get you. I'm actually concerned when when when white people say oh well there was you know more white people killed by cops and black people.
I'm like that's a problem so I'm getting to a.
Point and I would just say hey what is your point. We could agree that 99 of those killings were just were justified right. But there were still less police officers held accountable in my opinion then that weren't held accountable and.
That is not just if it was right. So if in the imaginary example that he's given us there's more there's police officers that murdered people that got away with it that's not just that's not a big point.
Ruslan you know what I mean. Like that's not a good point because everybody agrees that if a murder if a police officer murders someone and they get away with it that's not just what's.
Your point it's five if it was ten if it was 25 if it was a hundred. That is not justice that is not accountability. Okay. And. But the thing is though and this is.
That this is the thing that pisses me off about this rhetoric and sorry for the strong language but it just really bothers me because it's like if he like the what he's presenting here is that we have an unjust system if even one person that deserved it got away with it and that's that's not how it works dude.
Like because you're presenting and I don't mean you I mean your stupid perspective of the woke church movement is presenting that this is a rampant problem. Like like the way that the rhetoric is it's like this happens every day.
We're getting black people being killed the street every day they be killing us every day and it's like that's not true and so you're lying to present it that way just because there's one racist out there or a couple racist out there or you know maybe it's a thousand racist or a hundred thousand.
I don't know but the point is that it's a very small percentage of people but you're presenting it as if like we're just all racist and that's preposterous. And so yes everyone agrees that if someone murders someone else and they're a police officer and they get away with it.
That's unjust. That does not mean that our society is totally unjust. You have to prove that this is a bigger problem than we think it is because we look at the data and then we see oh wow. Like if you're a black dude you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to be killed by a police officer.
And so it's like okay so then but why are everything I hear on TV makes it seem like this happens every single day when it obviously doesn't and so that that's that's the problem. Ruslan. That's the issue.
That's the issue you're making it seem like if there's one issue then the whole society needs to be overturned. That's stupid and it's dishonest and we see right through it and that's the problem that you have.
You never address the actual issues. You always sidestep it you always use your prepackaged rhetoric and it's annoying and it's it's just preposterous. That's all I have to say.
About that that what are the solutions. Eight can't wait. Org is a solution again. If you want to you know go into this alternate. Let's let's let's let's bet.
I'd be willing to bet that this is a this is a propaganda website and that that's the solution. It's not the Bible it's a can't wait propaganda solution. I'm not gonna look into it cuz I don't care but that's my that's what I would.
Assume it is. Who knows what is that. Okay I'm gonna tell you. So so eight.
Can't wait is a campaign created where just about everyone I know who's a law enforcement in law enforcement everyone I know who's you know social justice person all agree on this eight can't wait org layout of eight things that they're asking police departments to self-regulate themselves.
Not like that. That sounds good. Actually if a good guy is seeing a bad guy a good cop is seeing a bad cop do something they have a duty to intervene. That's a good law. That protects officers. That protects people.
That protects the good officers right.
They already have that duty because they swore an oath to the Constitution except.
That except it's it's not instituted in their laws in every single department and so there are certain places where a cop doesn't have to intervene even if they're seeing something terrible happen. So a duty to intervene law.
There's no shooting at moving cars. There's specific eight eight eight layouts and I would encourage you to check it out and you can punch in your city and see which of them they've self-applied and which of them they don't.
So if you go to a lot of these major cities Los Angeles San Diego sheriffs a lot of them have already implemented these things because they've been having these issues for a long time. They were fine this process and they've self-instituted these laws.
That's a very simple law that protects everybody.
In the process number six is it a law or is it self-regulation. I don't know. I'm very confused. Maybe I do have to look into this eight can't wait propaganda machine. Yeah cuz that sounds okay. If you want to self-regulate you want to change your policies.
Good. That's that's what we're supposed to do. Like like self-government is the is the critical component to God's system. Like you're supposed to regulate yourself. That make sense. That make sense.
We don't need to bring crazy laws into this. Like like should there be a law that requires you to intervene in a situation. I don't think so. I don't. I don't think so. But should you intervene in a situation that you know someone is getting hurt or something.
Yeah you should. But should it be punishable by law if it like. If you didn't intervene what would happen to you. Right. I don't know. I don't know. I mean I think you probably should intervene but like like this is this like Good Samaritan laws.
Like remember the Good Samaritan law episode of Seinfeld. Like you know should it have been a law for those priests to help that Samaritan. And if they didn't they get the death penalty or something like that.
Obviously that that that's that. There's that you need to take some pause before you start implementing laws like that. But as far as self-government is concerned like hey you're a cop. So you have to intervene if you see something like this happening.
And if you don't you're gonna be fired. Yeah. I'm down with that. If that's what you want to do I'm cool with that. That's self-regulation.
That's good. That protects the good police officers. That protects the people who are interacting with police officers. That protects white people. That protects black people. And if we're saying hey there's something to this systemic racism thing here is a solution that would create accountability and create some degree of protections for everybody involved.
That's a reasonable.
Solution eight. Can't wait. Org. Yeah a reasonable solution would be individual.
Self-government. Wow look at that. Me and Marcus we're just like that man we get.
It we get it no Second Amendment regulations or restrictions at all. And yeah. And then forming better local militias that can handle any sort of like terrible crazy outbreaks that would require the bigger the militarized police states that we have.
Yes yes and yes. And within the confines of where we.
Are right now. Eight can't wait is also a good solution to where we are until God.
Instills this kingdom man. But maybe maybe maybe maybe they are temporary.
Solutions. I'm saying. I'm saying yeah. But the thing is eight can't wait. You know. And again I'll look into this because self self-regulating yourself and your own family or your own organization. There's nothing wrong with that.
There's that's there's everything good about that. Right. But once you start talking we're gonna implement laws. All of a sudden these laws tend to have unintended consequences. Right. Unintended consequences.
I could easily see if you made a law that required a police officer to report something or other. Or did you act in a certain way or something like that under penalty of law. I could easily see that backfiring.
And now everyone keeps their mouth shut the way that you know when you're in the ghetto you keep your mouth shut. You don't talk to cops. Cops wouldn't talk about each other like you mean like nobody wants to get in trouble for something that they didn't do.
Quite a hundred percent. Right. And if you start bringing law into that I could see that actually having the reverse effect where everyone just keeps their mouth shut about everything. You know what I mean.
And so you know like I have to offer look into that. I have to look into that. That sounds interesting enough for me to look into. Ruslan. I'll give you credit. You're. You're eight can't wait org I know it's a dodge.
You don't want to do God's law. I get it. You don't want. You don't like God's law. So anything besides God's law you're willing to give a shot. Definitely not willing to give a shot God's law. Because that's gonna lead to Saudi Arabia.
Obviously anything else. So he'll give a shot. So I'll check it out. Ruslan. You you've. You've whet my appetite enough for me to check it out. I.
Appreciate that asking me about the current system. I'm giving you solutions.
To the current system yeah I don't care. See that's the thing like everybody wants to work within these confines of the current system and I don't. And I think there's a lot of people too that don't like they.
It's like let's look at what God's law says and let's face our higher systems off of that. So those.
People like you guys are doing should get into media and should build.
Platforms and politics. I'm building the biggest platform you've ever seen man. Check it out. Oh yeah. I'm building a streaming platform now. Yeah yeah I'm.
Saying I'm saying you're you're walking out the yeah the the paradigm that you.
Have you're walking. I have to. You should be doing it to Ruslan because you.
Profess Christ so shouldn't you be accomplishing the Great Commission. In other words baptizing people name in the funny the Father Son the Holy Spirit and then teaching them to observe all that Christ commanded.
You should be doing this too. But instead you're you're you're playing footsies with Black Lives Matter and all these pagans like there's no reason to play footsies with those people. They need to be preached at converted and then taught to obey everything Christ commands.
So this is not just for post Millennials. The Great Commission last they checked wasn't just for post Millennials it's for everybody.
But so yeah and so and so I think I think that's awesome. You're asking me solutions for the current system. You're saying you want to dismantle system. I'm saying I'm not mad at you for his message. That sounds pretty fly if you ask me.
You're asking me what can we do right now. I'm saying hey. School vouchers were public busing. I think that's a great solution. You say hey I wanted. You would define it as steel. I mean Jesus said render on a Caesar with his Caesars.
Well so so. You would say well that in that context he didn't mean for public schools. I would say yeah. But we're living in this country right now. Well.
No I mean I don't I don't think he was dealing with taxes at all in that in that statement because on the back of the coin it said that Caesar is Lord on the back of the Daenerys. I don't know if you ever seen it but says but when.
So when Jesus says whose face is on that coin and he says well render. And he just wasn't saying hey man pay your taxes. No because look if you look at all that all.
That mark is finished this and Ruslan's mind is blown again. This guy is often very confused. But but what's interesting about that. He actually doesn't say face. He says image whose image is on this.
And he does mean face. Of course. But I like to use the word image whose image is on this coin. Right. This is not a coin is just around. Whose image is on the coin. And it's Caesar. And it says Caesars Lord on the coin.
But whose image is on you I think is the implied question. Right. Whose image do you bear. Right. And so you give to Caesar what Caesars. And you give to God's. What is God's. What is God's. Well everything is God's.
Everything is God's. And so you have to give God everything. And so we pay our taxes. Because number one God says that that we pay our taxes for the government to execute justice on the evildoer and to be a an Avenger for God a deacon a servant of God.
We pay the government to do a job that they've been ordained by God to do. Right. So that's a good reason to pay your taxes. But the rest of the junk which the Romans were doing to you they maybe they didn't have public schools.
But they had a whole bunch of other nonsense that they were engaged in that that is illegitimate. That's not legitimate. That's totally not legitimate. And so the the reality is that it's very wise to pay your taxes even knowing that they're gonna pay for all kinds of insanity.
But but but actually Marcus is gonna hit on something here that he doesn't even think he was really even talking about that. Let's listen to what Marcus has to say. Think of that passage.
It says that the Pharisees came to entrap him. Right. So there's two options pay taxes or don't pay taxes right now that's what they thought him say. So the question is if Jesus said pay taxes what was the trap there.
Right. So the the.
Pharisees thought they had him right. The fairest of the point is the Pharisees thought they had him. They said no matter what he says no matter what he says he's gonna be wrong. Right. Because we could tell him we can enemy of Caesar.
And then if he paid Caesar then he's an enemy of the Jews and stuff like that. So so what it. So. So they thought they had him on the horns of a dilemma. That was the point of the interaction. So if Jesus is saying pay your taxes then clearly they were.
There was no nothing wrong with that. And so they didn't have him on the horns of a dilemma. But for some reason they thought they did. See Jesus is actually completely rejecting their whole premise and he's giving a different point.
This is not the only time he's done that. I remember talking to an Arminian once about something Jesus said in John 6. And and my my point was that Jesus is when they ask him what's the work of God he's actually answering a different question than the one that they're asking.
And he does this quite often. He doesn't necessarily ask you the question that you're at answer the question that you're asking. He answers the question that you should be asking. And so that's I think what Marcus is saying that Jesus is doing here with the render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God.
That which is God's that he was worshipping Caesar right. That he was he.
Was he was. If paying taxes is okay then there was no trap there. So he didn't pay taxes. You just didn't pay taxes. No. I mean he did. He pulled the coin out of the fish and stuff. I don't. And then the Bible says it's I think we should pay taxes.
Okay. I think it's wise to say pay taxes but that doesn't mean we should fight for. You know. And first Samuel 8. You know Samuel says if you get a king he's gonna take 10 of everything you have. Like I would be so happy if we had 10 tax rate here.
I would love it. But God's a 10 was a judgment on the people for wanting a king. So we're way past that. Right. So the point is that Marcus.
Is saying is yes we should pay taxes which I agree because the Bible elsewhere not in that interaction with Christ does talk about taxes being legitimate. So we should pay taxes. But that does not mean that some taxes aren't literally stealing.
So some taxes definitely are stealing not all taxes. So it's not that taxation is theft all the time. But some taxes definitely are. And furthermore that does not mean we should be advocating for further theft.
See that's the that's what Russell is not getting. He's like see render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's therefore just every a little imagination scheme that you can imagine that's totally legitimate.
No that's not what Christ was saying. If you think Christ was saying that anything that Caesar pays for with your tax money is legitimate then you need to get your head examined. That's not what Christ was saying.
So that taking that that that interaction with Christ and the Pharisees and then extrapolating every socialist dream that you could imagine is really stupid and really dangerous. And so stop doing that.
Ruslan it's stupid and dangerous. We should be advocating for a just taxation system very very little taxation very little way less than ten percent. I've heard some people try to figure out what the tax rates should be according to biblical law and there's differences in a opinion there and all that kind.
It's very small though small enough that it and it should be equitable. So every person should pay the same not the same percentage the same amount. It's a very small tax for the for the for the purpose of justice and all that kind of thing.
But Ruslan wants his socialist dreams to be imagined to be realized. And so he turns render unto Caesar that which is Caesar carte blanche for all the social engineers out there. That's really stupid really evil because that's not at all what the scripture says.
And so if you're putting that forward as something that Christ would would be for like school vouchers or you know free health care for all like that's that's upside down. That's the opposite of doing the Great Commission.
Ruslan you should probably stop talking on these issues until you've thought about it a little bit more. So I mean.
That's it. I know you got a five week old. Yeah. So. So I gave you two solutions. Yeah.
I think are reasonable solutions. I think you haven't given me from scripture.
Where those solutions come from though. So you've given me outside. I that's the.
Key I'm giving you that's the key. Solutions that I think filtered through the principles of scripture I think are reasonable solutions. You may say I want to dismantle public schools public police. That's just something that he's.
Saying filter through the principles of scripture. That's an that's nonsense talk. He didn't do any anything of the sort he just thinks because the scripture is warm and fuzzy and everyone should get along and and and everything that anything goes as long as that's the goal.
And that's that's really twisted. That's what all heretics do. I'm not calling you a heretic Ruslan but all heretics do that where they say oh there's a big overarching principle of love which means everyone goes to heaven like nah it doesn't mean that because there's like a lot of detail in the Bible like it's a pretty big book and so no the fact that God is love doesn't mean everyone goes to heaven because we have specific verses that contradict that idea.
And it's the same with this. This is what he's saying the overarching principle of giving and charity and love. That means that we can steal as much money as we want from you as long as the goal is a good goal in my opinion because I'm the great Ruslan.
KD. That's an abuse of scripture Ruslan. An abuse. You abuse scripture all the time. You should stop doing that. It's not good for you like everything. I'm like bro that's.
That's a whole nother paradigm in your presenting. And you're saying it's absolutely biblical. I'm saying hey maybe it is. Maybe it isn't but there's people that don't hold the position of being a presuppositional post-millennial.
Covenantal guy. Yeah. Yeah. And there's also people that hold that there is no God. What is that supposed to mean. Oh yeah. There's people that hold that. You know you have to be totally sinless in order to obey Christ because Jesus said it himself go and sin no more.
And that's the overarching principle right. Be holy as I am holy that. So you have to stop sinning. And if you stop sinning then you can be saved. You see it's the overarching principle. There's people that believe that.
By the way like you see how stupid that sounds there's people that disagree with you. Therefore you're wrong that. Or therefore you're probably wrong. Or you might be wrong. Or you can't. You can't judge me.
Only God can judge me. That's so dumb. Because Marcus is giving you Bible verses and specific paradigms and you all you're saying is well this is a solution that might work. It's like that's not equal.
You know what I mean. That's not equal. That's really stupid. And again I'm not saying you have to agree with Marcus here. But you're gonna need a little bit more than here's a great idea that I got from eight can't wait org.
It's like you know. So you've given up the argument. You've given it up. You haven't even tried to ground this in the Bible. Right. And maybe you can ground some of that stuff in the Bible. I don't know but doesn't seem like Ruslan's even thought about that.
Like even doesn't even think that's necessary to ground that. As long as it sounds good to Ruslan. He's down he's down. Like that's not how this works. Man it isn't how it works. And that's again that's a.
Whole nother conversation that we could have a whole nother time it's this conversation. I'm not even sure where I'm at with some of that stuff right. Like I'm.
Just being completely honest with you yeah I'm not sure where he's at but he is acting in in favor of social justice. So this is the thing like you don't have to be a hundred percent sure of where you're at but where you're acting is what you believe.
So what he believes is the woke church stuff. He believes the social justice stuff. So he's a social justice advocate even as he doesn't understand what he's talking about. And again I'm not faulting him for acting without all the facts.
That's fine. Everyone has to act not knowing all the facts. But you're wrong and we can prove it. And you haven't even attempted to defend yourself here and that's a problem for a guy like me. Especially as you name that name the name of Christ and pretend to be this impartial like wisdom guy like probably bet wise to keep your mouth shut about things you.
Don't know. Well look this is this is why first off thank you for coming on because it is it's really encouraging to see someone come on and knowing we're gonna fight and we're gonna laugh at the same time.
And I I think I think it was really encouraging and I really appreciated it and and I wish I wish more people you know we could have these conversations that are friendly and like.
Oh man I was gonna end right here cuz we've already been going 40 minutes but if I'm not mistaken this part was one of my most interesting parts or my parts I was most interested in so I have to keep going.
So let's just do it let's do it.
Guys three and you know but deep but do you know the path to have those.
Conversations though right what are they. Have to let me guess the past.
Ruthlyn Ruslan. Let me guess the path. Okay here's the path to have open honest nice conversations. Ready. All right. I thought about this a lot guys. I thought about this a lot and I think I've got the answer ready.
Here's how you do it. You come out guns blazing and call everybody racist. You call everybody racist. Everyone's a white supremacist. Everyone's a bigot. And then when they say hey man I'm not a bigot you say no no you're definitely a bigot.
You are a racist you hate black people. And then when they say no no no no let's talk about this you say no I'm not talking about this. No no no there's no there's no point talking to a racist. That. Maybe that's the way to do it.
Is that the way to do it. Russo let's find out. To be charitable it has to be were we not.
We we were charitable yes. Conversation yeah right. But I had to first say hey bro. I'm not a Marxist nor do I like the conclusions of CRT that says all white people are evil nor do I like the social first the social justice warriors are are.
As pure as the driven snow. They started this conversation so nice and they're like well they were just like yeah you know I just I really care for the the poor and I care for the blacks and I care for the minorities and the LGBT and and I just would like to have a conversation with you.
And we were the ones guys we were the ones that say wait wait you care about people. Marxist. That's how this went down in Ruslan's fantasy universe. Now that's not how it went down bro. It's not how it went down.
This is how it went down. Jamar Tisby started saying every white person was racist. What's-his-face started coming after James White because he said something about a young man that happened to be black and how you know a lot of black boys grow up without fathers and you said he was a racist.
That's how this started. I'm scared of white people that voted for Trump. That's how this started. Right. So it started with you guys calling everyone and their mother racist and we were like hey we're not racist dude.
I experienced this man this is literally how my channel got started. I started pushing back and I started saying yeah you know it's not quite right and you just watch my content Ruslan. It's gotten more crazy as the years go on because I started just being like super humble like like y 'all you know like yeah I loved I love Martin that Chandler but like he's a little wrong on this and he's not that not that good on this.
And here's what happened Ruslan. Ready ready. You're a racist. You're a white supremacist. Bigot you in the house dog. That's what happened. Right. So we're gonna continue this later because I don't want this to be more than 40 minutes but like like Ruslan's trying to change the narrative here.
He's trying to pretend like this. The way this started is that we were too aggressive at the outset and that's that's not the case at all. We got called racist. All of us got called racist and then we were like nah man we're not racist.
Can we talk about this. I've done this and I used to ask people to have conversations all the time and very few did. There's a handful of people that did and I would say nah we're not racist. Nah we're not racist.
Nah we're not racist. Just care about this care about that. And and and eventually we stopped asking. Eventually we stopped. I don't care to speak with social justice advocates anymore. I just don't care.
I might do it under the right circumstances if there was something in it for me. But I I'm not interested in having these conversations. I've asked too many times. I've asked too many times. And I've got to have a little self-respect here.
I I've been interviewed by the Washington Post. I would if they called again I would tell them to go pound sand. Not interested in helping you sell newspapers even in a small way. Not interested in getting some viewership to Ruslan's channel.
Not interested in all these things. Like like like you know we tried that route Ruslan. But you guys have one argument and it's you racist. And we're sick of it. We're sick of it. We don't like it. Stop trying to change the narrative of how this went down.
It didn't go down the way you said it went down. We'll talk more about that when we get to this this video next week because he's gonna go in on this and yeah. Well I think it's time to end the video.
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