Bethel Church and Miracles, Rosaria Butterfield, Gender Pronouns, and the Post-Obergefell World

But at least, never to try to sneak one. And so we're gonna have to call that I guess I don't know. Yes yeah. Well look the what we need in 2024 is the 200th anniversary of the Great Palmyra Revival so that's what we need to be communicating to people.

Hi just is this on. Just never there I'm. When Paul wrote to the church of Philippi second chapter after that incredible section on the what we call the Carmen Christi the hymn to Christ is to God he wrote these words.

But I thought it necessary to send to you a Paphroditus my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier who is also your messenger that is your literally it's your apostle your apostolon and minister to my need because he was longing for you all and was distressed because you had heard that he was sick for indeed he was sick to the point of death but God had mercy on him and not on him only but also on me so that I would not have sorrow upon sorrow.

Therefore I have sent him all the more eagerly so that when you see him again you may rejoice and I be may be less concerned about you receive him then in the Lord with all joy and hold men like him in high regard because he came close to death for the work of Christ risking his life to complete what was deficient in your service to me.

So evidently the church at Philippi sent a Paphroditus to bring a gift from the church in support of the Apostles ministry. And so he was a sent one and Apostolos a sent one who ministered to Paul's needs.

And evidently on the trip or while he was with Paul somewhere along those lines he became sick unto death. And that word had somehow travel back to Philippi. And so the people there were were greatly concerned as well.

And so when Paul says he indeed was sick to the point of death but God had mercy on him and not in him only but also on me so that I would not have sorrow upon sorrow. It is very clear that what we don't have here is I as an apostle of Jesus Christ simply walked into his room and raised him up to health.

I used my gift of healing. This is a man who had raised a dead person. Okay the boy falls out of the window. Paul goes down raises into life. So what's wrong Paul get a little rusty not doing your devotions.

What. Instead very clearly Paul recognizes that his healing was not a sudden act of a gift that Paul possessed as an apostle but was God's mercy upon a Paphroditus upon himself. So they would not have sorrow upon sorrow.

What do we do with this kind of revelation from God. What do we do with the fact that in 2nd Timothy that same section that we looked at last time Paul talks about leaving trophimus at Miletus sick. Why didn't you heal him Paul.

And I think what we see is that especially when it comes to the exercise of miraculous power by individuals in Scripture there is a pattern and the pattern is the establishment of divine revelation. Now I'm not talking about the resurrection of Jesus though that certainly is the beginning of all the divine revelation in the Testament that is primarily satirical.

But when prophets did these things this established their authority as prophets. And it was not the norm. It was the unusual. They wouldn't be miracles if it was the norm it was the unusual. But when it is an individual who look at Paul's situation he's teaching the infant church who knows what he was preaching on that that night.

But it's quite an interruption when someone falls out a window and dies on the street outside. So he's teaching divine truth that that even the Jews in the audience would have been hearing new insights new understandings.

And in front of all these people Paul raises him up to life. So why not just heal trophimus. Why not just heal epaphroditus. Because it would not have the same effect in establishing apostolic authority.

These men were already believers. They're involved in apostolic ministry. So it's not some public thing that says here is divine evidence that revelation is taking place amongst you. That's why I have argued that as you look at the apostolic record especially in Acts you have a diminishment of that kind of thing.

Now it's interesting what's one of the what's one of the last miracles toward the end of the book of Acts. The snake that bites that bites Paul. Where is he. He's in a new place new message same concept.

Miracles as Signs of Apostolic Revelation

Why start off a program right before Christmas with this. Well because I said I would try at least briefly to offer some comments. There are a lot of people offering comments today. Dr. Moeller offered comments this morning on the briefing.

He felt it was necessary to address this. There are a number of videos and articles now showing up. So I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel and go back over these things. But secular media is picking up on what is going on at Bethel Church in Reading California.

And I have not seen anything in any of the articles I've read. I have not invested a huge amount of time. I've seen some videos. I've heard some songs one on Instagram saying you know come out of the grave and and things like that.

I've seen you know people running around. I've seen the stuff going on there at the church. If you're not aware of this one of the women in some type of musical leadership at the Bethel Church Bill Johnson's church two-year-old daughter died.

I've not seen anything in what I've read that there was any. I haven't seen a cause of death but I also haven't seen anything to where authorities are looking into this or anything like that. You know is it sudden infant death syndrome.

I don't know. I don't know but she passed away. And from all the pictures that have been posted just an adorable little two-year-old girl and any of us who are parents or grandparents or anything else you you just can't imagine the level of devastation and pain and hurt that comes with such a situation.

But what this woman decided to do was to approach the leaders of the church and to ask for prayer and to gather the church to raise her back to life. And I think today's day six or seven something like that.

I I'm not sure but it's been a number of days now of pretty much continuous and we're not talking about quiet prayer. We're talking what would be identified as charismatic Pentecostal tongue-speaking dancing singing type of stuff going on at the church there and I heard about after the you know the first day or two it you know news started coming out but you're sort of like is this happening right now.

Is this something happened recently and now only the stories got don't know. Well it's ongoing and media is picking up on it and so I said yesterday that I would want to try to offer just a couple of comments on this particular issue.

It obviously is a tragedy when any two-year-old dies but this is not the first two-year-old who has died who has been born to Christian parents. And in fact having some understanding of church history is helpful here in major portions of world history and European history as a whole specifically a woman would have to have 10 live births to get one child through to maturity.

In many places you had a 90 mortality rate. There was no there was no understanding of antibiotics or germ theory or anything like that. And of course having children is extremely dangerous to the woman.

There's just so many complications that can take place in that situation that that it was a the giving birth was a major contributor to the the death rate of women. You know wars for men giving birth for women.

So we live in a blessed age in a blessed age. When you think of most of the reformers both Luther and Calvin had lost children in infancy and both were deeply impacted by that. But neither Luther nor Calvin called the church together to try to raise their children from the grave.

And historically both in the New Testament as well as down through church history this has not been something that Christians have done. So why. Well theology matters theology matters. And Bill Johnson believes that certain divine truths have been lost now I have mentioned in times past I took the time forget how many years ago was now about three years ago to purchase a number of Bill Johnson books on audio and to listen to them and to especially focus upon his Christology.

And I found some serious errors both in a form of canonic theology as well as in sort of a almost a recapitulation style perspective that he has in regards to the role the spirit in us and our relationship to Jesus.

And so there is a sense in which we are Jesus is outside of what I think is the biblical understanding of living out the ministry of Christ being brought by the Holy Spirit of God things like that. And so the church teaches that the miraculous that we are to live as Jesus lived so as the Messiah is establishing his credentials as the Messiah.

We're supposed to doing the same thing. Now he this misses the reality of death burial resurrection of Jesus. He has he has been enthroned on high he has established his his credentials. But on earth he did miraculous deeds in fulfillment of prophetic scripture that then was part of the he himself saying to his disciples how can you be so hard of heart.

The scriptures said the Messiah would do this. Is this and the Messiah does. There's all this fulfilled prophecy. There is no fulfilled prophecy about Christians behaving this way. In fact we just looked at descriptive teaching that the Apostles did not expect to utilize their gifts in such a fashion as to simply extend human life indefinitely.

In case you've not thought about Lazarus died again I mean there's a sense in which you can feel sorry for Lazarus. I mean his name is of course well well honored amongst believers for having been raised from the dead by Jesus.

But the dude died twice. He experienced the physical reality of death twice. And there's no evidence that Mary and Martha called the church together. Let's go for a second run. Didn't do it didn't do it.

He died twice. So why was he resurrected. Because it pointed to Jesus as the source of all life as the Messiah. So the strange false theology of Bill Johnson and Bethel Church has created and we've we've read about this stuff happening to where these kids go out these young people go out on college campuses and they're trying to lengthen people's legs and and and perform miracles.

Because performing miracles is the way that you do evangelism. So I'm almost a little bit surprised it's the first time this has happened. In a sense this mother is just being consistent with what she has been taught by her leadership.

But this is not what Christians expect there will be a resurrection. And this does not mean that there is not the miraculous in this life. Just told you last time we were together about the miraculous healing of a baby in the womb.

But what's the difference. The difference is these folks believe that this is to be normative and that it can be something that you expect from God rather than in obedience saying Lord your will be done yours on earth as it is in heaven not mine and whatever that means from me.

I am willing to serve you. And so if the baby is born with all the problems that were expected then you serve Christ and honor him by taking care of that child with all the difficulties that that means.

And there are a lot of difficulties some of which I didn't even realize until recently. And if God chooses to step in and miraculously change that reality that's up to God. I don't question his ability to do that.

And I don't question God's ability to raise a child from the dead. But for what purpose you see once you've established the idea that we think this is normative we think this is the way it should be. God's gonna do this to just continue human life.

And so we're going to get together and demand this of God. We're gonna sing songs and we're gonna fast and we're gonna pray and we're gonna make this miracle happen. Christians have just never done that.

And I think part of it's because the church was born into persecution. So when you have martyrs dying right and left and especially when they're like Nero tied to stakes and burnt to a crisp the Christians didn't sneak in at night and try to raise them from the dead.

They got their bodies and they buried them because they knew there was a resurrection. But this idea of dragging that into the seat part of the the background in Jesus's discussion after when he comes to raise Lazarus is that the Pharisees the Pharisees understand there's gonna be a resurrection.

They're not like the Sadducees but it's down there it's it's at the end of time. So the idea that there could be a resurrection before then doesn't make any sense to them. They don't have the categories for it.

They don't see that this supernatural event is meant to say something about someone. They are living at the very crossroads of time. Everything before has been looking for this time period everything after it's gonna look back to it.

They don't realize that they will eventually especially when the Spirit comes and then they can see the fulfilled scripture of prophecies and things like that. But Christians recognize the reality of death and we pray for the healing of our loved ones according to the will of God.

And I I remember I think I've mentioned before that back in high school I they they played around with the lines of where people went to school back then and I ended up getting bust. I don't know how far it was all the way down to.

It's called Independence High School. It was a long ways from where I lived. Independence the south of Glendale I live. I live north of Bell. It was as long ways so as soon as I could drive I started driving the brown bomb.

You even remember the brown bomb cuz Paige had it for a while right. Didn't we ever eventually take it out in the in the desert and shoot it because it wouldn't die any other way. I mean yeah boom that about the only way and way to do it.

1972 Buick LeSabre and it was all beat up but had a v8 350 and it just refused to stop. No it was not. No it was not. I know my car dude you're talking about the Green Thunderbird. The Green Thunderbird was a 455 that thing was could run a tank but the Buick LeSabre was a v8 350 and I drove that as soon as as soon as I could start driving my sophomore year.

That's what I did. I couldn't afford to like even have a stereo in it so I had a literally a portable cassette tape player and that's where I'd listen to Christian music and stuff like that. But I started listening to some of the local Christian stations and one of them had Kenneth Copeland on.

No no who. Papa Hagen. Right. Hagen. Kenneth Hagen had Papa Hagen on while I would be driving to school and so once in a while I'd listen. I mean I knew this guy was out to lunch. I was only at the time what 16 but I could tell as a 16 year old this guy was out lunch.

But I remember one day very clearly him preaching about how if you ever say if it be your will you are destroying the prayer of faith because you have to believe it is always God's will. And this is part and parcel of most charismatic understanding of this issue is it is always God's will to heal.

So I'm not sure what Paul was worried about with either Epaphroditus or or anybody else but that's the idea. And the problem is it's absolutely central to having a proper understanding of divine healing and the supernatural in the Christian life to recognize that when you say according to the will of God you're not just going well I don't know.

I just thought you know what what when Jesus says speak this mountain it'll be taken up and cast in the sea whatsoever you shall ask you'll receive. But there's this little thing about the God and what you need to understand is when you are yourself completely committed to doing the will of God then he changes you.

You don't change him. This is this is the this is the this is where the man-centeredness of Arminianism connects with charismaticism to create the mess of Bethel that we're seeing today. What do I mean.

You take a man-centered view of God's nature God's knowledge his relationship to man. You import that into this area of believing you will receive and speak to this mountain. And all of a sudden you have man in sovereign control of the power of God.

And it creates a mess if you have a proper biblical view of the sovereignty of God and the God-centeredness of the biblical narrative. Then when you hear Jesus saying whatever you say speak to this mountain he's speaking to people who are submitted to the will of God.

So they have been changed to where their desires now mirror God's will and God will accomplish whatever he wants. So it's not where we come up. We all of sudden now have this power to cast mountains into the sea.

But God has that. And if it is his will to accomplish something absolutely spectacular he will. And in when my will is in line with his will then the two mesh together. This explains how the ten boom sisters can experience forgiveness for the guards that guarded them at Ravensbrück.

This is how Betsy could have joy amongst the fleas in the Ravensbrück because she discovered that they could have their Bible studies because the guards wouldn't come in because they didn't want to get the fleas.

So in the midst of that she is ministering Jesus to people and therefore can have joy. You see her will had been changed. So you have a God-centeredness rather than a man-centeredness. And I know the ten booms are not perfectly reformed and all that.

But that's not the point they saw the importance of this. They recognize the importance of this. And here we have let's just be honest the the gospel taking a getting the black eye in the eyes the world even though even a lot of people in the world are like you know these are the only people we've ever encountered that are like this.

Most people at least in whose lives the Spirit of God is working recognize the Christians. Christians are the ones who handle death differently than anybody else does and should handle issues of life different than anybody else does too.

And so no one I certainly can't deny the presence of the supernatural. We've seen it seen it recently I've seen it in the past but the difference is I didn't think that I had even the the right to demand this of God or to even consider it to be something that would be the normative.

It has to be in the context God if you would be glorified not not because of my pain or my loss but that you would be glorified. That's the only real basis for asking for for anything from God in that way.

And the the miraculous is the normative normative normative drumbeat. I don't know how many it has already created but five ten fifteen years from now there will be books being written by former Bethel Reading people about their atheism and where it came from and how they discovered that it was all just pure emotion.

And it never did anything. Because if you don't have the theology that's the lays it that lays the foundation. You're not gonna have anything at all not gonna be anything at all. So God had mercy on Epaphroditus and Paul but he he did so for God's glory.

And you know we're to hold him in high regard because he came close to death the work of Christ risking his life to complete what was deficient in your service to me that's wonderful. But that's not why God wrote raised him up.

He could have done all of that and still died and God would have been just as just and righteous and loving as ever. So without an understanding the sovereignty of God you end up with what we're seeing in in Bethel.

How is this gonna end. How do you call a halt to this. What's the what's the devastation gonna be for those people that are literally running around the room right now calling on God to raise this little child back to life.

I don't know I don't know what the authorities and like I said I've seen nothing about any questions about the death. Just that it happened. And there you go there you go. At the end of the last program on Wednesday I was literally before I blogged because I write up a quick description of the program.

Then we we post it. And you know before I blogged I was directed to an article that had been posted that included a graphic of Sam Albury and the fellow from revoice and JD Greer and Rosario Butterfield and myself with the following words.

Might every last one of you who choose to accommodate this sinfulness either repent of your wicked capitulation. Or might you drown in the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God revelation 1419. Might you halt your evil and lying tongue immediately.

Or might God smoke you like incense crafted from the molten sulfur sulfur of Sodom Psalm 116. Might you repent of lying with the lisp of Satan's forked tongue. Or might you melt like a wax figurine beneath the blast furnace of hell.

An open letter to Christians using preferred pronouns. Now most people remember that when JD Greer just a few weeks ago posted the blog article about pronoun hospitality that on this program we had specifically given a response indicating that for a Christian this is not a possible thing to do because God is the creator and he is the definer of all things.

And we approached it from a Christian worldview. So you might have been a little bit surprised so I wrote a response and this is this is what it's what it said a few hours ago I spent a very enjoyable time on the phone with Dr. Rosario Butterfield.

We discussed some comments she made about the post of Bergafel world and once again I was thankful for her clear insights and thoughtfulness on the topic. One of the issues that came up was the abuse of language in our day.

She had contacted me on her own about two months ago when I criticized JD Greer's pronoun hospitality position by the way he was just borrowing that from somebody else but anyway agreeing with me that this is not a direction we can possibly go while living in God's created world.

In other words both dr. Butterfield and I have clearly and openly opposed the abuse of language that's inherent and capitulated the culture on the matter of preferred pronouns. We have been clear on this.

So I am not surprised given the insanity being displayed by JD Hall of late that this was just posted because it was posted at pulp and pen. It is of course a lie. It is not a matter of misunderstanding it's not a matter of not knowing the truth.

And when I posted this and you can read the rest of it it was December 18th at 3 10 p .m. we got done about 303 or so so it was within about seven minutes at the end of the program. You can read the rest of it.

When I posted this there was a purpose why I did so as quickly as I as I did. I gave the information that any rational controlled mature individual would need to stop them in their tracks. I said that just a few hours ago I had spent time on the phone with dr. Butterfield but think it was 41 minutes.

I gave the information that she herself had contacted me when I had responded to JD Greer's position and I responded negatively. And I also gave the information that we had talked about the post. A burger fell world now a burger fell was June 26th I believe of 2015 so that was four and a half years ago.

So the question is what about right now. And I just provided more than enough information for anyone who is even semi serious about truthfulness to go. Okay he has access to information I don't know. Here's the problem.

Mr. Hall doesn't care about what information anyone has. He has the gift of discernment and so he is able by this special gift of discernment to know the truth of what anyone believes no matter where they are or who they are without actually even talking to them or knowing them.

He as the last person standing against the downgrade you look look five years ago go back five years. Who would even who was at that time even defending mr. Hall. Are any of those people still doing so.

I'm not aware of any anyone back then who was defending him as I mistakenly did. I am NOT infallible. It was an error on my part. I was taken in by him. So for all the claims of you know he's right about everything.

I don't claim to be right about everything. And this is a place where I made a mistake. All the way back to Braxton Cantor. I defended him on that and I was wrong because now there is a pattern of going after children now there's a pattern I'm seeing it right now.

I'm seeing the hurt that it causes. So there's a pattern once you got the pattern he's just being what he's always been. There are times of sanity lucidity that pop up. They are becoming less and less frequent.

I think they're they've now finished. I think they're now gone. And there are many people like I said who knew this man who are saying the same things. They're seeing the same things. But he chooses not to see those things anyway.

Knowing that right now he is on a tremendous tear of slander just the biblical death blasphemy up to the to the nth degree unrepentant gonna do it because he truly believes himself to be the last man standing.

He is saving evangelicalism by his faithfulness and by the exercise of his divinely given gift to be so strong and to have insight and discernment see see discernment for him means he doesn't need to hear both sides of a story.

He is able to determine by himself the truthfulness of everything. Once someone gets that point there is no reasoning with them. All you can do is pray that God will protect the innocent from what these types of people will do.

And that's where we are. So the point was I knew what Rosario's position was. I knew what her reasoning was but I knew what would happen as a result. Because a couple things back in February I had talked about why I had taken the time to read all of Sam Mulberry's book.

I had listened to his questions his responses I'm sorry from the RZ IM conference whatever it was they had and I was telling the story about how I was writing while listening to it. And that the thought had occurred to me at one point while the questions were being asked.

What do you do with a fully secularized person who comes to you and can only understand your unwillingness to use their pronouns as an act of hatred. And what I said that program was with that person.

If you're dealing with someone who's a foreign member of the church someone who's been exposed to a Christian worldview you're dealing with someone who already has the categories to understand the concept of rebellion.

The fully secularized person does not have that that foundation. And so what you have to do is you have to use their demands to use their pronouns as a means of opening up the opportunity to say here's why I can't and I can't because you are made in the image of God.

I am made in the image of God and hence you you immediately have to go to the foundational issues. You can't. It is an act of rebellion. They're made in the image of God. But if they have been raised in a secular household a secular context you have to immediately provide the foundation upon which your unwillingness to abuse the language can be understandable.

I dared to say we need to think about where the person is we're talking to which is something we've done for a long long time. We have for example in you know it's had to become a normal part of talking about Mormons.

You need to find out where they're coming. I can show you the LDS presentation on this unit. This is one of my older units. We rotate when I get a new unit we rotate them through here and so I can show you the keynote presentations that I have done.

You know this unit goes back to I don't know. It's seven eight years old all the way back then and in the final things about dealing with Mormons one of the thing one of the bullet points would be be aware that there are different experiences for Mormons.

That's become more and more important as the range of expression of Mormonism has expanded. So we have always said you can't just assume that someone is at a certain place. You have to talk to them. You have to find out where they're coming from.

You have to establish some type of communication. So back in February I had made the statement you know you got to think that through and that was. I was not saying oh yeah sure just whatever they want you to do.

Just just go ahead. No I was saying is you've got to start there. You've got to you've got to do something different with a person who has no biblical understanding whatsoever of God as creator. They think they are a cosmic accident because they have no way of understanding.

You used to term rebellion. What do you mean rebellion. Rebellion against what I can't rebel against my feelings. You've got to establish a Christian worldview contact contact with them because they're made in the image of God.

That's you've got to make that contact. That's what I said. So I knew that with certain people with with Jordan Hall the idea of having any type of nuance the idea of of having to think things through of having to approach people and understand where they're coming from.

He once understood that he that doesn't work anymore. It's shoot first ask questions later. So as expected the response from he and his followers was exactly what I expected it to be. And so I just want to thank Rosario Butterfield for writing up for me what I'm gonna read for you.

Because it is draining I I can't even begin to conceive of what it's like the week before Christmas to be doing the things that Jordan Hall and Seth Dunn and Cody Liebold do. It just has to. I mean is there is there a biblical parallel for the Grinch.

You know this this darkened heart. I don't even know I can't do it. So the only reason I'm addressing this right now is we can actually do something positive. That's what I wanted this to result in. And that's what it's resulted in.

So here's what Rosario sent me. And I want you to listen carefully because what I have discovered I was thinking about this morning I was asking myself the question why. See. One of the reasons that I reviewed the article against her is that what I'm finding with Rosario is because of what her conversion involved the identification of pride at the root of it all.

Because of that she can't conceive of a proud Christian and she's incredibly sensitive to anything that would push her toward being prideful herself. And so she is so willing to be corrected. Do you think there's something you know wrong with it.

I'm willing to be corrected. Please share it with share your insight. That's the opposite of what the internet creates in almost all of us. And I think that's why it would be wise if she doesn't even wander in leave it for those of us that are already so battle-scarred that will will never be able to get back to that that place.

Be perfectly honest with you all. Right. Here's what she said. In 2014 I gave an interview to family life today and in it I talked about my transgender friend Jill and Jill's impact on my life. Like others in the TG community transgender community Jill struggled under the weight of mental illness and delusions.

Jill was a seminary trained former minister and over the course of the years that we were friends we talked extensively about our different and changing theological understandings before my conversion.

I believed that gay was good after my conversion I believed we needed repentance of sin because God alone was good and we were totally depraved. Jill believed that we were innocently sick in a need of God's healing.

During this 24 2014 interview which was aired in 2015 I used the female pronoun to refer to Jill and when asked by the interviewer why I did this I explained that I wanted to do whatever it takes to meet people where they are.

My own conversion was a slow and messy one and pastor Ken Smith and his wife Floyd did this for me. They were my bridge to the church and to the Lord meeting me. My own delusion was how Ken and Floyd got close enough to help they were willing to take that risk to enter my world.

I want to do the same. There is an important difference though in a pre Obergefell world and a post Obergefell world. After the June 2015 Supreme Court decision Obergefell versus Hodges when the Supreme Court voted to legalize gay marriage in all 50 states the world changed.

I stopped for a moment. This is what I was asking her about because in a previous email she had talked about pre and post Obergefell and she had said that some of her insights from pre 2015 interviews might not be relevant today because that was a pre Obergefell world and so I just wanted to go.

What does that mean. I mean I can guess but I don't want to guess. I'd like to know what you understand that to mean and I continue my own commentary here. How many times have I said over just the past number of weeks everything changed.

In June of 2015 it was a flipping of the switch went from emphasis upon homosexuality to transgenderism. Everything went into turbo drive. At that time I said I said it when it happened to yeah yeah okay after June 25th going back to reading after the June 25th June 2015 Supreme Court decision Obergefell versus Hodges when the Supreme Court voted to legalize gay marriage in all 50 states the world changed after Obergefell.

I realized there was no longer a marginalized LGBT community. Rather and almost overnight we became an LGBT world with a fragmenting Christian community shrinking on the margins. In 2013 -2014 when I would talk about LGBTQ issues my exclusive focus was on the people trapped in indwelling sexual sin and the parents often the praying parents who stood behind them.

But after 2015 evangelism could not be my exclusive focus. I needed to take account of how the culture of life post Obergefell opened the floodgates to Satan and all the sins captured in the alphabet soup of LGBTQ.

Plus as I spend my time praying with and for parents whose children are trapped in LGBT delusions I want to remain compassionate to people and families whose lives are being wrecked by sexual sin. I want to stand close enough to people to put the hand of the struggler into the hand of the Savior.

And I want to see others repent of sexual sin and commit their lives to Christ and live in real victory. I have come to believe that the only way that I can do this is to use language differently. So what have I done post Obergefell.