October 16, 2020 Show with Jon Harris on “Social Justice Goes to Church: The New Left in Modern American Evangelicalism”

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one of the most controversial issues facing the church even dividing the church

in the 21st century that is the subject of social justice.

And my guest John Harris who has an MDiv from Southeastern Seminary and an

MA in history from Liberty University is the author of Social Justice Goes to

Church the New Left in Modern American Evangelicalism.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio John Harris.

Yeah thank you Chris.

I appreciate it.

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Well John we have a tradition here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio whenever we have a first time guest we

have them give a summary of their salvation testimony including what kind of religious atmosphere

if any you were raised in and what kind of providential circumstances our sovereign Lord raised

up in your life that drew you to himself and saved you.

He took

a church.

Great.

Well tell us about first of all how you got interested in this whole

subject of social justice.

Well

I and

I

remember

and

better

training

so and I

need

to

let

Southern

Baptists

know

became viral.

That's what I've

been in an evangelical

Christian and we're just.

Well if you could lay out for us before we even go into the history

lay out for us the main tenets of what has been called

or what has become to be known as social justice.

Obviously for many people who are they maybe if they have if they own a

television they must be familiar with a lot of what has been going on in

the inner cities of our nation.

There have been protests that have also become or included

riots and violent behavior and arson and there are

things going on behind the scenes that

we find out that there are people who believe that they are social justice

warriors who have either been involved in peaceful protests but some of them have

also been involved in some of the violence.

We have to be very careful as much as we disagree adamantly with

the intrusion of social justice onto the gospel we have to be careful we don't broad brush

those that identify themselves as advocates of this movement.

We have to we have to be careful that we don't broad brush them with those that are violent

just like Christians have sometimes been given a bad

name by those who have identified themselves as Christians but who are involved in all kinds of

evil racist organizations or violence or so on.

But so tell us what are the main tenets of this which actually on its surface may sound like many to

be hey that sounds like a very good and wonderful thing social justice sounds like something I should be backing.

Social justice.

And

they

did

not.

That's an

egalitarian

an

egalitarian

meaning

equality.

We use the term

equity today

to describe

egalitarian

utopia getting that

utopia

planning

that

utopia

and

maintaining

it

like the nations

that

men are

actually

and

egalitarianist

religion on purpose.

We'll have to obviously have some things clarified first of all the the term egalitarian

is a term that I'm familiar with especially in light of

feminism that has infiltrated the church.

I happen to be a believer in soul male headship in the

church and in the family that does not mean that women are less

in the eyes of God that does not mean women are less talented less gifted less and

less intelligent.

In fact they can be far far far superior in those categories to

even anyone in the congregation where they're a member or they could be far more intelligent

than their husbands.

They could even be physically stronger on occasions than their husbands but I believe that God has laid out

obviously male headship.

And so how is this term egalitarianism and what I was about to say was that

the feminists who have infiltrated the church and of course not

everyone who believes in Christian egalitarianism or egalitarianism in the

church and home is a leftist or feminist.

I believe they're very wrong but some you know come from a Wesleyan

holiness background that believes that women have the freedom and liberty

to become pastors and so on.

I disagree with that but it's not the same as the the liberalism

that has infiltrated the church and sought to destroy the

order that God has ordained in his word in regard to male headship but

but how are you applying egalitarian to this

issue because some might think and I'm assuming they'd be thinking wrongly

that you are against equality in the sense that you believe that whites

are superior to blacks or whites are superior to anyone of another skin color and

I could go on and on and how the the liberals love to slander

anyone who disagrees with them on anything.

It seems that they will bring up racism as an accusation even when the context of

a discussion has absolutely nothing to do with the color of one's skin or their ethnic

origin or whatever.

It's just bizarre but they know that if they get away with labeling you

even if it's just during a temporary discussion if they get away with labeling you a

racist people are going to immediately look at anything that you say with great suspicion.

So what exactly do you mean by egalitarianism when applied to this subject?

Yeah so he got

made in God's image yet he

also says that I

submit to the will of my father

or by himself and so there's

different roles

each member of the godhead is a and co -equal and co -eternal.

That's that's exactly right and and what

we use today is not egalitarianism it's

it's either equity or sometimes you'll hear this kind of language inclusion and

equality those modern egalitarianism is

and that we might have between each other in

Ephesians.

I mean you saw

that's a

usurpation of parental authority but

the wives

and

citizens

often the

institution

egalitarianism that that's really what usually that's

the individual

and

to

make sure the equality of outcome so no real

differences between people anymore.

That's why we're even seeing in nature of

genders one gender

generally they're

not kicking again

by egalitarianism.

Well you know right you brought up racism

when we use the

term

racism which

is when someone

thinks believe in borders unity then

you must be a

racist

between nations now be

eliminated.

Yes so

you are a firm.

Believer then that all people who

all humans regardless of their melanin content they are equal in the sight of

god.

There is no distinction that god has set up between those of different skin colors or

ethnic origins that has anything to do with a hierarchy of superiority or anything like that.

And I'm assuming if you agree with that which you seem to be saying very clearly

that the history of this country has a stain on it known as

slavery because we in this nation and not that all men

who owned slaves were brutal and vicious and satanic.

There were many many uh in this country and other countries

in Europe uh who treated uh blacks as less than human

and this is a great sin uh chattel slavery as it's sometimes called.

Um I'm assuming you believe that.

Is

a blight

on

this

nation

and

that was

sin.

They're not

a principle

he's

given us

um or regulates

um the interactions of

men.

Sociologists.

Yeah one of the things

that's infuriating to me.

Is that I am utterly amazed uh by how many people

cannot clearly recognize that much of the

verbiage the rhetoric of those who adhere to what is known as

social justice uh that they are perpetuating

racism.

And it's just a different target.

It's uh white heterosexual males predominantly that they are

perpetuating uh hatred toward no matter what they would call it

uh.

And it's just astonishing to me that we have even men that as

as little as nine years ago I had a couple of men who are now

involved in this movement uh who back then you would never have guessed in a million years

that they would devolve into embracing something like this because they are

uh brilliant and theologically right on the money very sound and in my camp of reformed

christianity uh but for them especially to not be able to recognize the the

racism.

And of course I only believe in one race the human race.

But because of the fact that that is a part of our vernacular so people can understand what I'm talking about

they can't even see that it is racist for instance to view people with less

melanin content in their skin known as white folks caucasians whatever to view

them as somehow being innately more guilty of

sinfully judging others as being less than they are that this is

this is a trait within us as white men and women not them not black

friday.

They can't even see how this in and of itself is racism.

Past the

stain

of

penance

you want

used

to read

and do all the

things

you're

supposed to do but you'll never get rid of of

an evil identity attached.

He defines us he created us

by nature of being in adam and our sin nature not uh by nature of the fact that we were

born in a particular.

Context where we have to go to our first station break right

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john harris.

He is discussing his new book social justice goes to church the new left in modern evangelicalism

and i want to go to a couple of our listener questions before i continue with some of my own.

We have grady and ashborough north carolina who says greeting brothers.

What has shocked me the most about the social justice movement within the church has been a number of well -known

pastors and church leadership that have brought in that have bought into this.

Why do you think we see.

So many pastors and leaders deceived.

Yeah there's

i think the

biggest

one.

We should not

underestimate

convention dying off.

We need to replace them and so we

need to get young people and minorities interested in joining the

denomination and that people buy

into it.

Um i do ask people as they're navigating this try to.

It's an issue

that they've actually on a deeper level and if

so then you need.

And i think that uh something that you just mentioned has a very

key connection to this whole discussion uh and first of all i think that you may have misspoke

uh peter i don't believe ever stopped being a jew.

Peter uh in the new covenant was no longer bound to jewish

ceremonial law.

In fact uh certain things under that ceremonial law

uh well actually all things under that ceremonial law would have been forbidden if they were viewed as required

uh to become christians.

Um so i don't know if i miss if you misspoke there but you said.

Peter thought that he was still a jew.

I mean he.

No no no i.

Well i did.

I didn't speak.

I meant that.

Right right.

Well the uh one of the

reasons i think this is so crucially connected to this whole discussion is because the

jews uh were persecuted and enslaved

and very often slaughtered throughout their history by the

gentile nations.

And yet when we enter into the new covenant and the jews were the first to

become followers of christ they were still forbidden to look

upon the gentiles as being in any way uh

different than them or under an obligation right uh to uh

uh repent of an innate

racism that the jews allegedly did not have.

I mean this this kind of idea that that black

folks and hispanic folks uh and native american folks uh

somehow cannot be racists because

they've never had the positions of authority and prestige and power that whites have

had.

Which is not even true to begin with but that they

uh are somehow given this not only

right but duty to now demand something of

their white brethren uh in order to be made

not only right with god but but in order to bring about reconciliation between the races.

This is something that was clearly forbidden this whole concept of

of of the judiazers where they really believed in their jewish superiority.

To the gentiles and and you know i

don't know if

i'm making

sense here but uh yeah

come to those who are making an extra requirement and that's

what this

is in many air.

Let the gospel issue.

You have to uh give up your position or in one

case your

family is uh you're

involved in generational searches.

Now you

need to

realize jesus racial

reconciliation the biblical kind.

Yeah it's it's amazing that you have some prominent uh

members of this movement.

And it's it's it's funny i i had um when somebody saw that i was promoting

this interview somebody uh posted underneath my

um advertisement on facebook that social justice is not a

movement.

The idea that it's a movement was an invention of racist whites who don't

want to lose their power.

But uh and yeah and and um and uh what's the other

one.

Uh antifa is just an idea it's not an organization or whatever.

But uh the um it's amazing to me that there are prominent

figures in this social justice movement who are black who are advocating

that.

Hey you white folks got to understand if we black folks just got to be together by ourselves sometimes and we got

to eat together alone sometimes without you being around and etc etc.

That's a very it's the very thing that paul was rebuking peter and the

others who were buying into the lie of the judiazers they were.

Not eating

with them.

About a year ago they did a

campus crusade.

Formally

they

just did

a

training

in another

group issues of racial

justice and then

by the

way uh thank you.

Grady uh for the excellent question and please give us your full mailing

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We have lou from sharpsburg georgia.

I believe so many christians are confused or can't discern between what's being touted as social justice

compared to.

Justice.

Can you please clarify the two.

Yeah the

quickest

way i can do that.

People that are you.

You look at people

and treat them.

You give them what is what their do is not based on external

factors.

Social justice is the opposite.

Social justice destroys biblical justice because it says we must look at external factors.

Uh if someone let's say stole something we need those first just a

few months

ago.

And one of the things

can't be too harsh.

You have to understand where they're coming from.

Yeah it's wrong.

It's understandable bracket you come

from.

It's not understandable to break the law of god.

And there are punishable magistrate exercise and

biblical justice.

One is equality before the law the other is attempting to bring about an equality of outcome.

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new book social justice goes to church the new left and modern american evangelicalism.

Before we take any more listener questions john uh a .k .a if you could please be very specific about how

this social justice idea and social justice movement infringes upon and

really dangerously dilutes or even perhaps changes.

The the

very gospel

of jesus

christ

jesus

we

need.

The list

goes

on.

There's about

five.

One way the

other way that undermines the idea of truth itself and

the objectivity works

and standpoint epistemology.

The best way i can explain it is it's the idea that those

who are

a

greater

minority

say and

what

exactly

are they

expecting of not only.

The church to do.

But what are they expecting.

Uh the civil government and your average ordinary citizens everywhere in this nation and

obviously the world.

Because this is not just exclusively an american phenomenon but probably predominantly.

But uh what are they exactly expecting us to do.

It ranges in

1977.

In the age of hunger

hungry neighbors can come

among see in

the world he

supports be redistributed

from places like the united states of the united

nations.

Environmental concerns want

to

get that

revoking

evangelical

distribution schemes

and then

um

creating

a redefined

poverty in

ways

that they wouldn't.

Yes it seems to me that

this social.

Justice movement in varying degrees depending upon who it is that you're speaking

about because it it is not completely monolithic you know there seems to be varieties and flavors and

levels within it.

But it seems that routinely the three commandments of god that are

being violated by these folks who advocate this are

bearing false witness.

When you are assuming that people just because they happen to be white are

racist uh and it is required of them to repent of this racism no

matter what kind of lives they've lived or what kind of thoughts they have and and so on.

And uh you know blaming uh 21st century

white folk for the sins of slavery and jim

crow and so on.

When not only should we not be uh

accused of bearing the guilt of sin of ancestors of ours.

But many of us don't have ancestors that were involved in slavery or the jim crow laws.

My mother's family uh immigrated from poland to the united states

in the early 1900s.

My father's side of the family predominantly came from norway in the late 1800s and settled

in brooklyn new york and rhode island.

And there were no uh slaves at that time in in those states.

So i mean the whole thing is just insane.

Really the other two commandments that are routinely it seems being violated are coveting your

neighbor's good goods and uh they are in fact advocating

stealing uh not to mention those folks that are actually stealing

right now during the the riots when they are pillaging local businesses and shops.

Now i'm not saying that everybody who advocates social justice is in favor of that.

So please don't accuse me of broad brushing or bearing false witness myself.

But many of those that are doing that claim to be a part of this movement and uh

they have been uh given a seal of approval by others uh for doing this

uh because it is they're.

They're just due uh rewards uh because of the

idea of reparations uh that uh that

whites owe the especially it seems the black community

a part of our income because of the sin of slavery.

And even as i said if our ancestors had nothing to do with that.

Do you

have anything to

comment

about what i uh

just said.

Yeah.

Well and then

using that to

leverage support for

essentially

what amounts

to

associating

must

have

you trace back anyone's past

might abuse of some kind somewhere

because

we're

and people aren't able to make

separate they aren't

able to they're

only looking at things that and then they're lashing

that.

That's we have.

Let's see

here.

Ronald in eastern suffolk county long island.

Who says.

Although many marxists and communists and socialists hate

christianity openly there are some that appeal to the compassion and sensitivity

of christians by trying to dupe them into believing that marxism and

communism and socialism really is rooted in true christianity.

An example that is regularly used is the citation of

acts 245.

And they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all as anyone

might have need.

How do you differentiate that true.

Historical

act of

the

disciples

in

the first

century

from marxism.

Yeah

very

simple laws that

we have today to

do.

It's just simple charity.

And christians have

been in my leg.

They're the ones that are running

into it.

Martin luther.

From the bubonic plague which the government

forced men to be the middleman.

Yeah the

only time that it

should be legally mandated that we give a part.

Of our money to assist uh the needs of the poor uh is

when we've actually stolen or defrauded them in some way ourselves not our ancestors but but

uh right.

And of course that would even be uh something that a church uh church elders

should do if they are being responsible and obedient to the scriptures.

If they have a member that's under discipline they should uh to to demonstrate

repentance.

That person should be mandated uh to give a part uh whatever he

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But uh at the same time we have to be careful that this uh right to private

property and so on even the legitimacy of wealth which in fact i'm going to have a guest

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There's nothing wrong with greed there's nothing wrong with uh not

having compassion and actually reaching out physically to the poor and those in need especially

those amongst the congregation in which we are a member that doesn't rule out everybody else either

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But especially those in the the body of christ in your your own congregation uh in fact

that is what james as you are fully aware uses as an example to show

who has a dead faith a false faith is those that just say be warm and filled but aren't actually

helping the brothers and sisters in need with with their physical needs.

Yeah that's the first virtue uh.

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And we do have another question for our guest john harris

from john in banger maine.

John says i hear sometimes those who oppose the social

justice movement rightly say things that aren't true.

Like for instance racism doesn't exist.

Obviously they might be meaning that institutionalized systemic racism

doesn't exist.

But obviously racism exists and is alive.

And well unfortunately even judging from what you two have been saying through this program that

the social justice movement is perpetuating racism right now.

But i do want to ask your guest do you believe that racism

is institutionalized and systemic in our day and age in this country.

And what are other things that those who are on our side as it were in

opposing social justice that they do things wrong on occasion

i guess what he means is more than likely saying things that are wrong.

But but if you could what's the second part of

the question is you know.

Well first of all he started by saying that he has heard people who rightly oppose social justice

say that racism doesn't exist right.

Which is obviously a falsehood.

I mean we're not going to be in a sinless world until we are uh the earth is

restored and it's a new heaven a new earth.

And and that we are with the in with christ for eternity that's the only time that racism and

sin is going to disappear.

But he was basically saying that that's one thing that people who rightly

oppose social justice wrongly say.

But what are other things in your opinion that are being said wrong in other words by uh by people on our side if you

were to lack of a better term.

Doesn't

exist

right.

Well you

have the concept.

Like for instance you had moses's sister.

Who was uh very upset that moses was married to an ethiopian and god struck her

white with.

Leprosy a very very ironic way of of chastising her.

Yeah complained about today in social justice circles i don't find the

bible talking.

You'll

find uh

things like i

don't

like problem

that's.

Sinful uh thinking of yourself more highly than you ought and uh not

loving your brother.

Who you have seen.

Uh so.

Therefore how can you love god.

Who you have not seen.

Exactly.

Yeah exactly right.

And movement

and the cure.

They have a different definition

of racist.

And that's where you start getting.

There's no racism

without any racist.

Isn't that they.

They set it

up that

way.

Understanding of power.

Describe the difference.

I just

19 coven 19.

Supposedly.

Um you know you can have all the disease.

Right.

And that's what people are accusing.

Uh can't point to examples.

It is you know.

Ends up with.

Well you love your country in the united states

today.

Um i mean i've always told

people

that.

So if you can show me a racist law i'll present with you if you can show me

the buy into this boogeyman mentality that just

says well it when we don't.

So you need to like any other sin.

Two examples of it.

You

have

to find out that we're

human.

So i think anyone

on any side of anything can

make mistakes.

And i think we are in a day and

age where victim the other person ends up usually winning the

emotion.

I lament that but

as i can apply it as rightly as i can and that's what i.

Encourage.

And john and banger main you have also won a free copy of social justice goes to church the new left and

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Well i want to make sure that you have several minutes of uninterrupted time now john

to make sure that that what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today

will be heard uh uninterrupted so you can.

Begin

now.

Well i appreciate

you.

They are in

christ.

The word

of god

is

preached

in

between

and be one

in him amen.

And i'd like

to also voice a brotherly warning to my brothers and sisters.

Who may actually truly be guilty of the sin of racism.

Never allow all these things that are happening in our world the

rioting and the arson and the crime and so on in

the name of social justice.

Never allow that to salve your own conscience to think that the racism

that you're holding on to is inconsequential or deserved.

Uh we can't overlook the fact that as even john our guest has

agreed that racism has not disappeared.

There are people of all colors however they're not just white people.

There are there are people of all skin colors who are hating those

that do not look like them and come from the same ethnic background as them that has been going on

for as long nearly as long as this world has been in existence.

But please never think that you can justify those attitudes by the sin that you

see going on under the name of social justice.

I want to thank you so much john for being an excellent guest today.

I want to let our listeners know that john has a website social justice goes to church dot

com.

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You can find out more about this book there.

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international dot com.

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You can find out more about what they publish in addition to the social justice book.

And don't forget cvbbs .com who sponsor this program.

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I want to thank you john again for being my guest.

I want to thank everybody who listened especially those who took the time to write.

I hope that you all have a safe and blessed and god honoring weekend and lord's day.

And i want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that jesus christ is a far greater savior

than you are a sinner.

Amen.