American Holocaust with Dusty Marshall

I think there's actually nothing better that a student can do. Prepare for that which you cannot prepare for. You have to prepare in general in order to be able to handle any situation. In order to do that, you need to study broadly.

Must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite? We're being delusional.

Yeah, I love the jet.

Delusional?

Yeah.

Delusional is OK in your world view.

I'm an animal.

You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your world view.

Is perfectly OK. It doesn't really hurt.

It's hung up on me.

Shoot! What? What? What?

Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage.

Going to all the world to make disciples. Not going to the world to make buddies. Not to make brosives. Don't go in the world to make homies.

Right.

Disciples.

I got a bit of a jiggle, Nick. That's a joke, pastor.

When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

Cease to do evil.

Learn to do good.

Seek justice.

Correct oppression. Bring justice to the fatherless. Plead the widow's cause.

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You guys are as much a part of this ministry as we are. So thank you guys very, very much. So I am Jeff Durbin. They call me the Ninja. I had just a forewarning. I've been warning everybody today. I had my neurologist appointment today, and brain PT, which includes electronic stuff, and includes all kinds of really crazy stuff.

It was for like an hour and a half today, and my brain's a little bit sluggish today, but good news is that, I haven't announced this publicly. People have been asking me. Good news is that what has been happening, they discovered is nothing chronic or serious, and they don't think it's permanent in any way.

Just some other things. They're actually fixing everything, and they're confident that it's gonna be okay. But in the midst of it, there's like two days a week. I have to do like an hour and some odd brain PT, which is really interesting.

And so if I start talking about like lunch menus, and just crazy stuff, and colors, and shapes, and things like that, just give me the signal. Be like, hey, you're not working any longer. And then I ended up with a Pastor Luke.

Brain PT, Neuroplasticity, and the Show Team

What if you start shooting lasers out of your eyes?

Yeah, laser beams out of my eyes.

Was it like Clockwork Orange?

I haven't seen Clockwork Orange.

Okay, nevermind.

Well, what is it?

It's a movie.

Yeah, I know it's a movie.

I've actually never seen that either.

Where they like keep your, it's like there's scenes.

Oh, where they like, there's like,.

I've seen scenes from that, but yeah.

It's a pretty disturbing movie. And this is not an endorsement of that movie.

No, but it's disturbing.

Yeah, it's actually, I'll throw it out just for fun.

So you guys hear it. Like it's interesting, like we've learned a lot about the brain. I've learned a lot about the brain in the last couple of months, more than I'd ever thought I would know. But we've learned a lot about the brain in the last hundred years, obviously.

But we learned some really great things about the brain in terms of being able to heal the brain, fix the brain. And those, like the brain can't, they used to think the brain can't fix itself. Like it's a machine.

And if it gets funky and broken, like, sorry, like it's, that's the machine, it can't fix itself.

It can It's a machine that can figure out how to fix itself.

Yeah, it controls other functions in the system, but it can't fix itself is what people used to think.

But we've learned Well, the evolutionary, yeah.

Yeah, so we learned about something called neuroplasticity and that's that your brain is, they say, plastic, and that it can actually reshape, reform, fix, communicate. And so, yeah, so the stuff that you do is like, it's crazy stuff.

Like I'm doing like really high-end like technology stuff, like just electricity running through things, like bringing my right side of my brain back into proper function. And then what else? Like other things are shooting like a laser beam in one eye while I'm having to answer questions while spinning in a circle to my right side so that my right brain is doing all the work and just really crazy stuff.

Laser beams, literal laser beams into my head and trying to reactivate electrical processes. Lots of nutrition for my brain. I'm taking so many pills right now and things for my brain. I already feel a ton better, but after a day like today, I'm feeling like I was in a boxing match.

Well, you just did a workout with your brain.

Exactly. I was telling Pastor Luke when I got here, it was really weird. Like I left and I felt this side of my, inside my head, I felt it like.

I can actually see it.

Like, you feel like my forehead like pumping? Like I really felt, cause all the thinking, you feel the thinking and you so like, cause there's so much going on.

One of these times you're going to come like out of an appointment and you're not going to have any hair.

Right.

You're going to be like Professor Xavier.

Right.

Or I'm going to come out of the appointment reading your mind. I'm going to be like, I'm so in tune right now. I know exactly what you're thinking.

You're going to look like, like brain from Ninja Turtles.

Exactly. All right.

Well, I'm Jeff the Commenter Ninja.

That's Luke the Bear right there.

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I don't think anyone could have beat out the DM.

No, they couldn't. But it's still Apology of Studios that was up there, you know, so that's how it goes.

We'll just say Apology of Church was represented well. And the whole I don't know what that was, but the whole thing.

It took me about 30 seconds to get that.

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Cultish is there, so go check that out. So that's what's up, guys. Now you guys know what's happening right now. Thank you guys for all you guys who are listening live. Hello to everybody. And you'll notice that we have a very special guest in the studio today.

He is a member of Apology of Church. He's a man that we love a lot and love what he's doing and very excited about him, his ministry, his work, his skills, his giftings. And today we have something very special for all you guys watching live.

You're actually gonna get to watch his new music video, which is amazing. So this is Dusty Marshall, everybody. Welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me. I'm Dusty Marshall. Don't go see Clockwork Orange. Thanks for that. Let me just put that display over there. That was from a past life.

That's right, exactly, yeah.

I died.

Yeah, everyone, unfortunately, everything you say, they will take as just a complete endorsement and that you're totally fine with it.

Yep, that's right.

That may not be true.

Oh, by the way, just I want everyone to know this and I love you and the Lord loves you. People oftentimes will say in the comments, I've seen this a lot lately, they'll say, hey, Jeff, Pastor Luke, did you guys get those tattoos?

You had those before you were saved, right?

No.

No. Actually, my tattoos I got after I came to Christ. And we're gonna do actually a video, we're gonna do a video on tattoos and Christians.

Man, is that gonna create a firestorm.

And that is gonna be very interesting. We're gonna dig into the text and scripture and we're gonna talk about that. So just so you know, you guys are asking, no, I got them while I was in Christ and yeah, so just thought I'd throw it out there.

And do you see the live audience cuts in half right now?

I'm actually surprised we haven't had it.

Oh, is that the pagan symbol in the back?

Oh, yes, yes.

And this not pagan symbol in the back, that's the tricetra ancient symbol of the Trinity.

Used by And beat you to it. Beat you to it, all y 'all.

Oh yeah, we beat all of you guys to it or putting it into the feed there. Tricetra, ancient symbol of the Trinity. It demonstrates the homoousius, one substance, three persons. This is, yeah.

Someone will come in five minutes from the end.

And ask about it. Not pagan, not pagan. So anyway, let's talk. So this is gonna be an interesting show. I'm gonna be kind of punchy today, I'm warning you because again, my brain PT.

Dusty Marshall's Album, Conversion, and Testimony

Dusty.

Yes.

Tell us what you're doing.

I have an album that I just recently finished called American Holocaust. And it exactly speaks on just what we're talking about, the American Holocaust in our nation that's happening with the pre-born.

61 million babies have been murdered in our nation. And that's one of the main themes of it. But the overarching theme is a church that's greatly departed from calling sin, sin for fear of offending pop culture.

So that is the main topic. But the result of that is abortion continues to be legal in our nation. It'll be LGQT being given to our children. The family being broken apart. So yeah, that's kind of the overarching theme of the album.

And I've just finished that recently.

So give everyone a quick burst on, you mentioned Clockwork Orange. And your past life, you said you died and came back. So tell, I guess give everyone just a little blitz on your story, God's story in you.

What did God do in your life?

Who are you?

So up until about eight years ago, well, eight years back, I was a full-time drug addict, drug dealer, criminal, trapped in addiction. I moved to Las Vegas to get my life together. I moved to Las Vegas to get my life together.

That's how my

Is that a punchline?

It is, it is a punchline. Yes, it's God's punchline. So however, in my thinking, God had plans for my life. I moved out to Vegas. I had a moment of clarity in the middle of the night while it was coming down off of drugs.

What were you using?

Prescription pills, every now and again, meth, pretty much anything I could get my hands on. But that specific night I was using ecstasy. I was coming down off of ecstasy and I had my moment of clarity, looking at myself in the mirror.

I hated the person I was, hated the person I'd become. And it was like God was, I understand it now more than I, now that I understand the Bible, but I believe God was granting me repentance in that moment, like opening up my eyes to the truth.

I couldn't see it before, but like, it was like the veil was gone after that. And I was like, whoa, my life is a mess. So yeah, I reached out to a girl who had went to a local church in Vegas and she invited me to come.

I showed up, just heard the gospel presentation, was crying, breaking down. And then she took me back to the care department where she introduced me to a guy there who was a volunteer in the Celebrate Recovery program they had in the church.

I got involved in that and got involved in discipleship in that program. And eight years later, almost nine going, I've been sober still. I work with others in recovery and been traveling the country, sharing my testimony and doing music at mostly recovery groups, prisons, and juvenile detention centers.

I love you, dude.

That's awesome.

I know, and for me, I mean, I, it really resonates with me like coming down out of an ecstasy high. And I think that's a good place for the gospel to come into someone's life, right?

Yeah.

You come to a place of just lowness and brokenness, but that's not enough to save anybody.

Right.

But it is a great place to minister. I think a great place to go preach the gospel is go to a rave around 6, 7 a .m.

Yeah.

And then it's good. And that's a good place to hang out and preach the gospel.

And everyone's brain chemicals are just garbage.

Then all the serotonin is gone, all the excitement. And they see themselves in the world.

For like how it is.

Yes.

And catch them before they, you know,.

Try to go to sleep.

It's actually a really great idea.

It's a great idea, it really is.

A church that I went to in Vegas would actually do that. They would go to raves, hang out there, give people waters all night long. And then, you know, around 5 or 6 a .m. they would start helping people.

So we're not the first to think of it.

This is great.

I thought we were onto something.

Praise God. That's awesome. People are already doing it. That's great.

So, okay, but you're a very gifted artist. And what's the appropriate thing to say? Do I say hip hop artist or rapper? Like what's the appropriate thing?

Probably hip hop artist.

Okay.

Probably, yeah. I mean, to me it doesn't matter. I don't pay attention to like genre specific things. I'm just like, this is what I like to do. Here it is.

Yeah.

So tell us about that, like getting to that place where like you're a Christian and you're an artist and you're very skilled at what you do. And I can't wait for you guys to see the video. Truly, you have, stay with us.

If you're watching right now live and you're thinking about clicking off, don't. You've got to see this video. It is moving, very, very moving and powerful. But so what was it like, you're an artist now, you're doing great things now, but was this a part of your life before where like it was a very big part of your life?

How'd that work?

Yeah, so I was a secular underground hip hop artist. I grew up in like the LA area and did events and stuff in Hollywood. And my music was really dark though. Like literally I was part of a crew called The Morgue when I was a secular artist.

It was very dark music, a lot about drug dealing and just, it was really terrible, terrible music. So obviously I was a musician at that time, but I was also an addict. And then the addiction eventually took over any desire I had to do anything else.

It was all about my addiction and my desire to do music, my desire to have relationships, whatever was all based around drugs. So I lost my passion for doing music for about a year. And that is the time when I moved to Vegas and God really got a hold of my life.

And through that time I was trying to get healthy and God was kind of leading me through this program. And I was out running one day and I was listening to music and I was probably, I was like listening to the Eminem recovery album at the time.

That's where I was at at the time. And I had this like moment where I was like, like, cause music had always been my outlet regardless of Christian or not. It always had been an outlet for me dealing with things.

And it was like, why aren't you writing anymore? Like I had this like, almost like an audible voice. Why aren't you writing anymore? Why aren't you doing this? And I was like, well, yeah. And I literally like stopped what I was doing, ran back to my house and started writing again.

But I knew that I could no longer like go back to doing secular or like iffy, you know, music. It had to be 100 for God. So I did and my wife and I started a ministry and started traveling the country and God figured the rest out for us.

American Holocaust and the Sanctity of Life

All right, he's gone.

I think we need to show everyone. Let's do it. Is that good? Yeah. So before we do though, tell everybody about the video, give us a background behind it. Some of the meaning, some of the purpose. And then before we even get into it, tell everyone where they're able to go to get the album and all that stuff.

Sure. So this song is called American Holocaust. The music video is American Holocaust. It's the title track for the album, American Holocaust. The idea behind the video is I really want to show people the equality of life in and out of the womb.

You know, we are all created in God's image. We're image bearers of God. Therefore we have equal value regardless of pre-born, not pre-born. So this video really makes you think about that. And the album, as far as the album, I'm giving your listeners early access to the album.

The album actually doesn't come out till July 26th. But if your listeners go to I4Cshop .com, that's I, the number four, C, shop .com, they can get the album right now. They can download it, get an immediate download.

And a little extra, if they type in Apologia, then they'll get 10 off, and I'm gonna donate all the money I get from the album to you guys.

Whoa! Praise God.

Praise God. Hey, guys, take advantage. You're gonna get some amazing, amazing gifted artistry, music, it's awesome. You really will love this album. I've heard it, it's amazing. Dusty is incredible at what he does.

And look, you're gonna get a chance also to bless the ministry. Thank you for that, brother, so much. But just some background behind this, as you guys prepare to watch it. The kids who are singing in this are kids from Apologia Church.

And it's really them.

Yes.

Everybody in the whole video is from Apologia.

It sounds excellent. Everybody you see here is Apologia Church. And Carmen's the director of the video. He did a great job. I was moved by it. I think it's amazing. And so, Isaac, let's get that ready to go.

Actually, it opens up with Isaac's son in there.

That's right, yeah, Isaac's son is in here, too. So this is like all Apologia Church stuff right now, guys. It really is, it's incredible, it's moving. So thank you, Dusty, for pulling this together and doing just a great job on it.

All right, guys, so again, one more time. You said I4C, is it the letter C?

Yeah, yeah, so it's the letter I, the number 4cshop .com. They can go get it right now.

Okay, and they put in the discount code. Apologia.

At checkout, yep, put in Apologia at checkout and you'll get 10 off and then I'll be able to know who got it from the show.

Excellent, all right, guys. So Isaac, let's go ahead and kick it off. How do you describe abortion? Well, in the United States right now, since Roe versus Wade, we've had about 60 million children die via abortion, the abortion industry.

One of the organizations, Planned Parenthood, kills about 1 ,000 children every single day in our country. There's about 3 ,000 children who die every single day in our communities across the United States and they're killed through abortion.

There's a number of different ways that you can take the life of your child in our country through abortion. You can kill your child via a pill. They have medical means of abortion through a pill that you take into your body and it ultimately kills your child through a medication.

There's also means of abortion that are most common in terms of the surgical abortion where the doctor goes into the woman and essentially pulls the little boy or little girl apart limb from limb. So sharp instruments and tools are forced into the woman to tear the child into pieces, literally into pieces.

There's blood on our hands, on our hands, on our hands. They're murdered on our watch, in our city, in our lands. At the point of conception, DNA is in their strands. But we kill them anyway, trade our children for our plans.

It's sad to see these dads who refuse to be a man. We'll kill the wrong son. What was done to son of man? I'm mad at the world, but I'm feeling like a hypocrite. In my past, I was militant. Apart from God, I'd kill my kid.

We're living in his lies. A righteous God rightly judging us. Surprised and rejected in this self-inflicted genocide. Search inside the scriptures for the answers to the myths within our hearts. The root of what we may get spit at.

Tell them they may get hit. Tell them if they don't end up in hell, to save souls like.

We forgot to mention that Joy's in there.

Yeah, I know, right? Isn't that great?

I am in there.

Yeah, look at you, little actress.

Look at you.

You're in a hip hop video and a hip hop song.

That's right. That's right.

My street cred is like.

It's high.

It's super high.

Out the roof.

That's right.

As you can tell by my signal that I just made.

She says, my street credit is like this.

My street.

My street credit.

My street credit is like this, guys.

All right, guys.

So that was an amazing, amazing experience, right, guys? So I encourage you guys all. I put it there in the live feed. I know you can't click on it here on YouTube feed. But I, the number, sorry, the letter I, the number four, the letter C, shop .com.

Go there.

You can put the discount code in, Apologia, and you get a discount. And Dusty has graciously, and Crystal, right? Yeah, have graciously decided to give everything that comes in through that towards Apologia Church Ministry.

And I think it's probably, I'll let you guys decide what you really wanted to do. You want to go to Apologia Choir to end abortion now? It's up to you. But hey, guys, get this as soon as you can. Dusty also said, some of you guys asked for the t-shirt.

You can get the t-shirt also at that link, guys. So pray for this. What we're going to do, actually, we were talking while that was going on. We're actually going to put this video itself across all of our platform stuff direct.

And just be in prayer for that, that people would see this, that it would go viral. Really believe that it needs to on a number of levels. So man, thanks for doing that, dude. Absolutely. Excellent job.

And thank you to everyone at Apologia Church.

And to all the kids who did that video.

Oh, Brenly was the star of the video, I think.

I know, that's right, absolutely.

The brown, brown town. And so thank you guys so much. Dusty, before we go to commercial break, I really want you to share the story of your family. I think people need to hear that. Tell us about your family.

Tell us about your girls.

Yeah, so back in 2014, it was just my wife and I, but we found out we were going to be blessed with our first daughter. But at 20 weeks, we found out that she had spina bifida. And that's a neural tube defect.

Her spine was sticking out of her back. So long story short, we left everything behind. We were living in Vegas at the time. We moved to Colorado. We stayed at the Ronald McDonald house right across the street till our baby was due to be born.

They were trying to do a surgery while she was still in the uterus to close her spine up, but they couldn't because they found a major life-threatening heart defect that she had in the midst of that.

So the focus was no longer her spine. It was her heart issue that they were focusing on. So they weekly monitored that up until she was born. And they did a scan of her heart the day that she was born and it revealed no problems with her heart whatsoever.

Her heart was perfectly healthy, healed, and that was a miracle of God. Yeah, but she did require the surgery to close the hole in her back, exposing her spinal cord. She did have a shunt put in her brain, but the doctors were really encouraging us all the way up until that point that she was born to have an abortion.

And it was something we would not do because of our faith. We were gonna trust God, whatever the outcome was. And she was born, her heart was perfectly healthy. The doctors, as I said, said she'd never have use of her legs, she's four now, she's walking on her own.

And she's a miracle, a walking miracle of God. And from trusting God in that, we have two more beautiful daughters. So I have three daughters all together, four, three, and six months. And our ministry, Irregular for Christ, we travel the country, we've always done it as a family.

We've always traveled as a family to share our story as a family. I've wanted our girls to be there right along with us to see what we're doing. And this year we haven't been able to do that as much because of some health issues with my wife.

But the idea is when she's feeling better to travel as a family again, going to recovery groups and prisons and everywhere else.

So praise God, brother. And they are beautiful, beautiful little girls.

Yes.

I love Amnesty so much. Not that I don't love your other kids, but Amnesty's the sweetest. She's always got something funny to say to me.

Yeah, she does.

Beautiful, beautiful girls. Well, praise God, praise, praise God. And you have a video up too, actually, talking sort of through that story.

Yes, I do.

Where can people go watch that video?

Irregular for Christ Ministries on YouTube or irregularforchrist .com, just how it's spelled out, the number forchrist .com. It's called Choosing Life for Amnesty Part 5, I believe.

That's what it's called.

Right on, brother. Okay, guys, so we're gonna take a quick break. Stay with us, though, because we are coming back. And when we come back, we are going to talk through a video that I assure you will get the steam going between your ears, for sure.