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The Christian church has been misinterpreting Jesus's words for millennia. Jesus was a progressive.

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Oy vey. See, I don't think that theology actually aligns with the

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God revealed in Jesus. Those two options are not great, right? Scam or demon. This is ghost pepper

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Scoville 2 million level dumpster logic. Christians, you've got it all wrong about Jesus.

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What you need is TikTok to help you properly understand who Jesus was and what he really taught.

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And guess what? We've got some people here who are going to do just that. And I'm thoroughly confident that in no way is this going to be an absolute disaster of theological and spiritual proportions.

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I'm sure this is going to be totally in line with everything that God's word has to say. Of course,

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I'm being facetious. This is going to be probably as awful as you think. So let's just jump right in.

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But first, welcome back to Wise Disciple. My name is Nate, and I'm helping you become the effective Christian that you were meant to be. And that entails understanding who the true

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Jesus really is. Understanding what he truly taught. Amen? Make sure to like, sub, and share this one around, but only if it blesses you.

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All right? Would you talk to us about Jesus? Yes, I would. I have a feeling that he was misunderstood in his day.

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Very much so. Still misunderstood to this day. The Bible, I'm thinking, isn't an accurate translation of what he was trying to teach us and tell us.

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No. Much of what, in that sense, that individual was teaching is very similar to what you are now understanding in what you call your metaphysical age.

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Okay. What the heck is that guy on the left doing? Right?

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I know what the guy on the right is doing. Haven't we seen him before in previous videos?

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Didn't he basically appear to allow a demon to enter his body? Wasn't that him?

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I mean, unless he's like a really great actor and the whole thing is like a scam. Which, by the way, those two options are not great, right?

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Scam or demon. Pick your poison. But what the heck is going on with the guy on the left?

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Does anybody know? Is he slow jamming to Basham here? Somebody can tell me in the comments.

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I don't know what's happening. The idea is that simply people back then couldn't understand it. But to put it in a more fundamental sense,

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Yeshua, or as you say, Jesus, really did not intend in any way, shape, or form to create followers.

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Intended to create leaders. Equals. Did not intend to create

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Christians, per se. Intended to let you all know you are Christ's. That's the greatest misunderstanding of the information.

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Okay. We've heard this claim before, right? This is the

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New Age concept of Christ consciousness. And it sounds like Basham just said it.

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Because guess what? We all have this Christ consciousness potential in us. The only way that somebody can make these ridiculous claims and get away with it is if you know nothing about the

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Jewishness of Jesus. The moment that you take into consideration the Jewish nature of Jesus' teaching and sayings, you immediately realize that this is absolute hot, spicy garbage.

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This is ghost pepper, Scoville 2 million level dumpster logic.

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And for those of you that have been with me in videos like this before, certain passages of the scripture should immediately come to mind already.

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You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to let him finish his train of thought, and then we'll go into the scripture together.

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Does that make sense? Yes. All right. So much of what you're understanding today is the idea that that individual was teaching, even down to the concept of how powerfully your beliefs create your reality.

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Yes. Because did not, in that sense, at least to some degree, the

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Bible quote him as saying, it is your belief, it is your faith that has made the difference.

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Yes. And did it not also say that when Yeshua even went back to his hometown, because people there only knew him as a carpenter and did not believe in the things that other people said he could do, he could do none of those things in his hometown.

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And the Bible says so, very clearly. So what's the argument here?

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Are you tracking this? So, according to Bashar, so I guess

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I was saying that wrong a moment ago. According to Bashar, faith changes your reality.

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And somehow this is true because it ties back to the original claim that he made, that people all have this

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Christ -conscious potential inside them. So in debate, we follow the

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Tolman model of argumentation. It tracks along three things. Claim, data, and warrant.

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Okay, this is going to help us now as we evaluate this person, but it's really going to help you whenever you engage others along these lines, whether New Age, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, or even some

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Christians with highfalutin ideas. You know what I mean? People need three things to make an argument.

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Claim, data, or evidence to support the claim, and a warrant, which is the explanation as to how the data supports the claim.

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What this person just did is he made a claim that everyone has the ability to become their own

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Christ. And then he made another claim in order to support the first claim that people have this ability to alter their own reality.

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And then he cited a couple of biblical examples, poorly, might I add, and then he gave no warrant, no explanation, as to how those biblical examples support his original claim.

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You see how this works? To the untrained ear in the audience, this guy sounds amazing.

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To the rest of us, these are horrible arguments, all right? P .S. Still have no idea what the guy's doing with the rocks on the left, all right?

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But let's see what the scripture has to say about this. This is Mark 6, verse 5. And he,

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Jesus, could do no mighty work there, except that he laid his hands on a few sick people and healed them, and he marveled because of their unbelief.

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So we have Jesus here in Nazareth. He went back to Nazareth where he grew up. And it says that the people took offense to the things that Jesus was teaching, so much so that Jesus responded by saying this.

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Look at verse 4. In other words, because they knew him as some kid, you know, he's eyes that he's

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Mary's kid, you know, he's Joseph's kid in the neighborhood. They refused to see him as having more knowledge than they do.

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By the way, this is actually true with many of us who, you know, grow up to become successful or, you know, an expert in some kind of field, and then we come home for Thanksgiving dinner, perhaps, you know, and mom and dad still see us as the little baby, right?

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Or just older people in our lives that watched us grow up, you know, and changed our diaper or something.

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They have a tough time seeing someone younger than them as having authority over them.

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Now, let's be very precise here. Where does it say, look at this, where does it say that Jesus could not perform a miracle because of the unbelief of the crowd?

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All right. Where do we see a direct causal link between unbelief and Jesus' ability to perform a miracle?

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I don't see it. It's not here. As a matter of fact, we do see a different account of the same story, and it does offer a direct causal link between the crowd's unbelief and with Jesus.

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This is in Matthew chapter 13 verse 58, and it says this,

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He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief. Okay, so now we see the direct causal link, but it doesn't talk about Jesus' inability, does it?

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It just says that He didn't do it. But wait a second. Does Jesus perform miracles in spite of the unbelief of others?

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So, like, now we're starting to think about other examples from the New Testament, and the answer is yes.

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Take a look at this, you know? I mean, this is probably the ultimate example of something like this.

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This is Luke chapter 7, and it says, Behold, a man who had died was being carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow, and a considerable crowd from the town was with her.

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And when the Lord saw her, when Jesus saw her, he had compassion on her and said to her, don't weep. And then he came up and touched the buyer, and the bearer stood still, and he said, young man,

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I say to you, arise. And the dead man sat up and began to speak, and Jesus gave him to his mother.

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This man was dead, okay? He had no ability to alter his own reality.

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Why? Because he's dead, right? But Jesus heals him, performs a miracle, does something great, like, unexpected, right?

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And this happens a lot. Jesus exercises demons out of people who never say ahead of time, yes,

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Jesus, I have faith that I can alter my own reality, that you can rid me of these demons.

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No, that's not what happens. This is absurd. The reason

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Jesus doesn't perform miracles in Nazareth is because he's not P .T. Barnum. Miracles are not meant to make people accept

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Jesus when they don't want to, all right? That's the lesson of Mark chapter 6.

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Matthew chapter 13. This has nothing to do with people altering reality because they are all

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Christs. Also, you know, Jesus did come to earth to make disciples, but he didn't come to make equals, you know?

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Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8 that there is only one God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.

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It is through these persons of the Trinity that we owe our existence. This is the same message that John teaches in John 1 .1,

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right? If we are all Christs, there would be no need of a mediator between us and God.

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So now I'm just, like, again, think through this all the way through, right? Fully bake that thought out and then pull it out of the oven.

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What happens to it, okay? Now all of a sudden we don't need a mediator, do we? We've completely undone the message of the book of Hebrews, haven't we?

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The Christian church has been misinterpreting Jesus's words for millennia. Here, let me show you how. In the

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English version of the Bible that we have today, there are two main ways that Jesus refers to himself, or at least that's what's interpreted by the

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Christian church. He uses, I am, and then son of man. And I think that there's some misinterpretation, some misunderstanding in the translation or what those actually mean.

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Okay, again, I mean, this is where it would be very helpful that we understand what these two phrases are meant to reference, because they don't come out of nowhere.

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Both are clear descriptors of things that we find in the Old Testament. So God refers to himself as the

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I am in the burning bush of Exodus 4, and the son of man, who is understood to be the

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Messiah, is seen in a vision by Daniel in— and he's ascending to the Ancient of Days in Daniel chapter 7.

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But I suppose none of these Old Testament references are going to be brought up in this video. I could be wrong, but let's see what happens.

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When Jesus is saying, I am, he is meaning, like, I am, you are, we are. Like, I am.

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Like, it is meant for you to read it in the first person. Read it as if you are saying it. I am the way.

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Because you are the way. It's inside of you. We are a temple of God. And the other way—

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Hold on a second. Just chewing on this. So again, filtering this through the

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Tolman model of argumentation. There's the claim, right? Jesus is just talking about all of us, you know?

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But where's the data or the evidence to support the claim? And also, where's the warrant that explains how the data supports the claim?

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Nowhere to be found. Most of these types of people, they get away with this kind of stuff because many of us just do not appreciate what an argument is anymore.

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Many people also just, you know, they want to find something that just tickles the ear, right? Paul talks about this in 2

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Timothy 4. Look at this. Verse 3. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

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Imagine not knowing what a basic argument looks like. And also, being scratched, you know, being tickled by something that sounds great.

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This is a recipe for theological disaster. A way that is often misinterpreted is when he says, son of man, he'll say, the son of man can forgive sins.

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And like, to me, when I think of the son of man, like, that doesn't sound like God. That sounds like I'm a son of man.

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So, already off on the wrong foot, right? To him, it sounds like something, right?

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Who's he? Who is this person? Is this person our interpreter of Scripture?

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Or does Scripture interpret Scripture? Already off on the wrong foot. He should be looking for the phrase, son of man, the way that the

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Bible presents it, the way that it is described in the Old Testament. That's how

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Jesus relies on its meaning. Look at this. Daniel chapter 7, verse 13.

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I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven, there came one like a, here it is, son of man.

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And he came to the ancient of days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom that all people's nations and languages should serve him.

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It is no coincidence that Jesus utilizes not only this unique phrase, son of man, to describe himself in his ministry, but he also talks about his kingdom.

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He talks about how he has dominion or authority. He talks about how he will come with the clouds of heaven.

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This also is in his ministry in the first century, in the gospels that we have in the

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New Testament. All of that draws from Daniel chapter 7, ladies and gentlemen.

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Do you see that? All of those other descriptors are there as well. The thing that these

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TikTokers, they just don't, I don't know, appreciate, in my opinion, is the original audience.

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How would the original audience, who were Jews that grew up reading Tanakh, right?

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Or the Old Testament, how would they have understood what Jesus was teaching? They would have understood it the way that I'm explaining it now, through the lens of God's word, because it's right there in the

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Old Testament. Look at this, Psalm 119 verse 9, how can a young man keep his way pure by guarding it according to your word,

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God's word? With my whole heart, I seek you. Let me not wander from your commandments.

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I have stored up your word in my heart that I might not sin against you. That's why the psalmist says later in verse 105, your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

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That's why the next thing that is said after the famous Shema of Israel, right, is to teach this to your children.

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Talk about these things when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down. This is because the man of God is supposed to live not by bread alone, but by what?

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Every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. That means when Jesus uses phrases and terms like a good first century rabbi would, all of these things should take his students directly back to God's word in the

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Old Testament. And we must do the same thing today. So are you. And I think that that's a big misinterpretation because really what is meant there is someone, like someone, anyone, any human can forgive sins.

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That's what he's trying to say. I've actually been rereading the Bible, the New Testament a little bit. And I've been reading it with that lens, like understanding that like when

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Jesus speaks about I am a son of man or what other ways, I'm kind of like seeing how he's actually talking about how one, don't care about what other people think.

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Two, you are powerful. You are just as powerful as me. You can forgive sins. You can move mountains.

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You are powerful, right? That's a common, common theme. And he's saying that like, we are all the way, like we have divinity inside of us, which we do.

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Eastern religions have this philosophy that if we go in, then we will find truth. They will find the whole world.

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And I think that that is really what is true. I think that's accurate. And unfortunately, I think the...

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This man has started with himself and what he finds to be interesting.

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And he's using all of that to interpret Jesus in the Bible. Again, this is a huge mistake.

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And it's going to take him and people like him far from the one true God. Why? Well, because they refuse to understand

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Jesus on his own terms. This would be like somebody finding my videos a hundred years from now and saying, well, you know what

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Nate meant by the Tolman model of argumentation is he was talking about how everyone is correct.

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He was talking about how everyone can justify their own claims as long as it's true for themselves. No, this is post -modern relativist, rotten dumpster logic.

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I don't know how else to say it. This is why the Bible also says this. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit.

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According to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

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This is Paul in Colossians 2. You see how even just in this particular verse, there is a real danger in getting all of this stuff wrong.

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You see how there's a real threat in not understanding Jesus and his teaching on his own terms.

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That's why Paul said this right above verse 8. Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the

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Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him, and here it is, established in the faith just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.

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See, this is not your own novel interpretation of scripture, ladies and gentlemen. This is not an exercise where you read the

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Bible and you say, you know what I think this means to me? We are dealing with the words of God that have been situated within the traditional teaching of God's people passed down through the centuries.

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That's what's going on. Jesus was a progressive. And when

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I say that, I mean it in the purest form of that word. Jesus wanted progress.

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Just think about Jesus's life and ministry. He was working for justice for those who were living on the margins of society.

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He proclaimed radical inclusion for those who had been excluded. He proclaimed that no one should have too much or too little, that there should be a fair wage so that everyone could survive.

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And in his healing ministry, he went around offering free healing and never charged anyone a cent.

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He believed in free healthcare. This guy again, right?

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So a lot of this kind of rhetoric trades on reducing Jesus down to only dealing with the issues that you think are important.

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But when that happens, you tend to leave out the rest of Jesus. And that's, let's face it, that's a lot of people's problem with Jesus.

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They want to reduce him down to just the few things that they think are incredibly important instead of dealing with everything

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Jesus said and did on his own terms. Did Jesus talk about taking care of the outcast, right?

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The alien, the orphan, and the widow? Absolutely. Is that the only thing that Jesus ever said? Absolutely not.

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As a matter of fact, if you take Jesus on his own terms, which, I don't know, it just appears to be a recurring problem for all of these people.

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You find Jesus upholding the traditional teaching of Torah, which condemned

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LGBT sin. This is what Jesus meant when he said this. Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets.

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I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. That's in the Sermon on the Mount. That's Matthew 5. Two things here in this verse that I think is helpful.

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The law and the prophets is, it's a stand -in. It's just a statement that is supposed to, it's like shorthand, and it's supposed to refer to the whole of Tanakh, right?

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Tanakh stands for Torah, Nevi 'im, and Ketuvim, okay? This is the entire Old Testament. Jesus says,

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I didn't come to abolish the Old Testament or Tanakh. I came to fulfill it. But you have to understand what abolishing and fulfilling really means.

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These are Jewish idiomatic expressions that refer to properly interpreting and misinterpreting.

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In other words, Jesus is saying, I'm here to properly interpret Tanakh for you all. And here's what it looks like to properly do it.

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It looks like my Sermon on the Mount. It doesn't look like those hypocritical Pharisees that I'm sort of contrasting occasionally in the sermon.

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It looks like having the qualities of character that I list in the Beatitudes and obeying

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God's Word, all of God's Word. But guess what makes up part of Torah?

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Leviticus 18 and 20. The very passages of scripture that LGBT folks want to dismiss.

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So you can't reduce Jesus down like this because you end up making

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Jesus affirm sin that he absolutely would not affirm. And you make Jesus further political causes that Jesus probably would not affirm.

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Jesus was not a conservative. He was not interested in conserving the current order.

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He was interested in making progress. Be like Jesus, be a progressive.

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Oy vey. That's what a disciple of Jesus would say to this man.

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So this is a really concerning theology because it presupposes that Jesus was born to die.

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That his primary purpose on earth was to be the sinless sacrifice to shed his blood to appease the wrath of an angry

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God. That is really concerning theology. And it's just one opinion in the panoply of beliefs about what happened on the cross that have been held throughout

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Christian history. See, I don't think that theology actually aligns with the God revealed in Jesus.

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So I don't know if you can see the little message here. Um, the writing is pretty small.

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But, so this is Brandon Robertson. Robertson is responding to someone who challenged him because Robertson once claimed that Jesus was a racist.

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Yep. Robertson actually made this ridiculous claim. It was when Jesus engaged the

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Canaanite woman and then he talked about giving the bread on the table, the children's bread, and throwing it to the dogs.

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And Robertson said, Oh, that means Jesus was racist, guys. And so the message here is in response to that.

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It says, Okay, great question.

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That is a question designed to test the coherence of Robertson's view. But Robertson is not somebody who just makes flip claims, okay?

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This person has thought out his view a little bit, okay? And so his response is, Jesus did not come to die for our sins.

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Jesus was not born to die, as he just said. Okay, again, there's the claim, right?

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But is there evidence that supports this claim? Or can you think of scriptural evidence that actually undermines

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Robertson's claim? You guys have done this exercise with me enough, okay? You've seen these before with me,

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I think. You tell me what scripture comes to mind right now, like in your mind.

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Let me know in the comments, you know? Let's figure this one out together. Jesus didn't live to die and purify us of our sins through his blood.

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Jesus died because he showed God's grace and love and truth to humanity.

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And sinful humanity in our brokenness responded to that, to the incarnation of God, by killing

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God. And Jesus rises again as a sign that human sin and brokenness and evil will never have the last word.

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But rather, grace, love, light, and compassion will. That's good news. That's what happened at the cross.

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Boy. So, Jesus was God incarnated.

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That's what Robertson just said. Okay, so again, testing for coherence here.

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Is he saying that God became flesh and then sinned? In other words, God sinned.

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Is that what he's saying? Because that's bizarre. By the way, notice also he claims that the only reason that Jesus died was because he showed

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God's grace and love and human beings just couldn't handle it.

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But is that what Jesus said about his own death and resurrection? Of course not. By the way,

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Okay, let's look at what Jesus says in Matthew 26 verse 28.

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So, this is what it says. For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

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For what? It's right there. For the forgiveness of sins. Jesus says earlier in Matthew 14 that he gives his life as a ransom for many.

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So, his life is meant to be a ransom because of the sins of others, right?

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So, now we're kind of just putting this together, okay? Does this sound like Jesus died for your sins? Or does it sound like he was just a loving person and the world couldn't handle it, guys?

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Look at this one. John chapter 11 verse 25. I am the resurrection and the life.

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Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live. Does it sound like those who trust in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins will have eternal life?

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Are you starting to see how the traditional Orthodox teaching of the church has always taught this very thing?

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It's because it comes from the scripture, ladies and gentlemen. But no, no, guys.

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According to Brandon Robertson, that's not what Jesus died for. Um, he was just a graceful person.

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Also a sinner and a racist. And the world couldn't handle his grace and love, guys. See, again, this is what happens when you reduce

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Jesus down to fit inside your particular box. Which is, it's actually ironic because people like Robertson and some of these others, they'll tell folks like me and you that we are the ones putting

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God in a box. The reality is they are, whether they realize it or not. It is imperative that we do some work to understand the

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Jewishness of Jesus. Because if we do, the way you see him will become much more robust.

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You'll start to make deeper connections that you never did before. And, this is the big one, if you do this exercise of understanding how

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Jesus and the New Testament is deeply connected to the Old Testament, you'll guard yourself from making all kinds of theological and spiritual blunders.

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Amen? All right, look. I had some extremely problematic views of God and his word when

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I was unsaved. And by God's wonderful grace, here I am today. It is not too late for any of these men.

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All right? While they still have breath in their lungs, they can repent and give themselves completely to God. So let's pray for that.

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All right? Join me in praying for them. Let's pray that their eyes are opened, like the

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Apostle Paul, that the scales fall off, and that they fully, they just embrace the truth about Jesus Christ.

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Okay? It can happen. If it happened to me, it can happen to anybody. All right, well, now it's your turn. Do Christians really get it wrong about Jesus?

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