The times of the Gentiles, and Daniel 9, “who makes the covenant with many?”

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are live welcome to open-air theology. My name is Jeff. I'm one of the pastors at Covenant before I get it out a second Covenant Reformed Baptist Church. We meet here in, Tallahoma, Tennessee.

So if you're ever in the Tennessee area particularly down in, Tallahoma Please come by and check us out. I'm here with my good buddy Austin. Austin has been on the channel before him and I are committed to walk through the book of Romans together.

Austin brother want to go ahead and introduce yourself.

My name is Austin hammers. I am in South Carolina. Just a local over the Lord man. Enjoyed joining this podcast. I learned a lot with Jeff. I won't lie to you guys. I call Jeff often with questions and just dialogue so we.

As iron sharpens iron. And it's really I just enjoy being here and I enjoy the opportunity to walk through scripture with Jeff.

Amen. So There's really a lot on our plate tonight that we're going to be discussing so him and I like I said earlier have committed to walk through the book of Romans, but also I'm going to be answering.

An.

Interpretation off of someone else's podcast. And also and if you notice last week if you watched last week me and Brayden were going back and forth in Matthew chapter 24 Brayden has his own YouTube channel where he kind of goes back and discusses some of these things.

And so if you want to check that out, hey, his YouTube channel is called the reformed ex-mormon. This is my channel. So Like anytime that I'm able to get on it's only on through only through here. So I'm going to be kind of Discussing a little bit of what we talked about last week towards the end.

So this is going to be kind of a longer show. But it's only to put it down what I believe and for him and I to go back over and discuss it later and when it comes to that we're going To be looking at the times of the Gentiles Last week.

I asked for grace concern in Romans chapter 11. I Haven't been through a deep study of it. But I think I got but I think I got a handle on it and I'll kind of present that tonight of what I see taking place but first we're going to start off with a short video.

So I could so I'm not smart enough Austin was but we couldn't get the audio to work for us to bring up the video and to play it but I do have the video up on my On my iPad and so I'm gonna start it and you'll be able to hear the audio Coming through my microphone.

This is taken from Generation. So the YouTube channel is called generation 2434 and so what he is speaking of is Matthew 2434 and it's what he would consider the generation of the fig tree. So if you go back to verse 32 For the context of what his YouTube channel is about it says from the fig tree.

So this is Matthew 2432 from the fig tree learn its lesson as You see its branches becoming tender and put out its leaves. You know that summer is near so also when you See these things. You know that he is near at the very gates truly I say to you this generation will not pass away Until all these things take place so he sees the you here as not speaking in the near demonstrative and that the generation here also I Mean, I mean he sees that the you here is not in the second person plural and that the generation is not in the near demonstrative.

So he sees that this generation is someone who sees.

The.

The fig tree Become tender and puts out its leaves. So so their interpretation. So he is a premillennial Dispensational and so he believes that in 1948 when Israel became a nation that is the generation of the fig tree the fig tree generation and.

So.

His channel is called Generation 2434. He believes that this is the generation that sees these things taking place in Matthew 24 and so I Listen to him quite often. I Like the brother. I Believe him to be a Christian.

There's I have no reason not to believe. I don't agree with his interpretation on a lot of things. Which really he only Deals with eschatology, which that's great. I mean if you know me, you know that I'm an eschatology nerd.

This is something that it's like a hobby to me right like one or two days a week I do nothing but listen to other people's opinion concern and eschatology and. So I listen to this guy a lot, but he has a guest on Trying to see I can't say his name he has a guest on.

And so they're gonna be talking just for a brief second so they're talking about revelation they're talking about the seals the seven seals and I can leave a link to his. Well, I know I definitely can leave a link in my on my Facebook page we'll put in the comments, yeah.

Where y 'all can go back and listen to it. I.

Can do it now while you're yeah while you're talking. I'll do that now.

All right.

And so for anyone that wants to go back and listen to it so the conversation that we're going to be listening to begins at 12 minutes and 48 seconds, and it's going to be Switching to the book of Daniel.

Daniel chapter 9 and if you know me. You know that I love the book of Daniel especially chapter 9, right? And so Hey when I was listening to him, he brought up something. He says some people believe this.

But we believe and and then they start saying that they don't see how someone could believe the other way and I'm thinking I believe that way and so what I did was was I commented in the comments and you know, very gracefully.

Told him, you know, I listened to Your podcast quite often.

I.

I'm pretty sure I read it to him that I believe him to be a brother. But if he was wanting some pushback I'd love to come on his channel and give us some pushback on it or I would be willing to have him on open-air theology.

And then I said either way, you know, so this would been yesterday tomorrow night. I'm gonna be talking about What you just spoke about and going over this video and I you know told him how he could you know.

All you have to do is click on my channel and you'll be able to see it.

So.

There's opportunity for him or anyone else that watches his stuff to click on and see what we have to say. So without further further ado, I'll go ahead.

Now that it's fair game, you know. We we don't want to sit here and act like our opinion is the only correct opinion possible. That's not true. So and we understand that we know that there's room for.

We'll say you're wrong and you'll say we're wrong and that's okay. It's about being biblical and open here. That's all.

Yeah, so we like the discussion. Yeah. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna move my mic. Excuse me. I'm gonna move my mic closer to my iPad and hopefully y 'all will be able to hear it real. Well, it's not a long segment.

So I'm just gonna let it play. I'm not gonna stop and kind of go at it, but we're just gonna answer the objective. All right. Let's see.

The first seal shows that the Antichrist is on the scene. He's the writer of the white horse. Yeah, and I want to read that scripture. He mentioned Daniel 9 25 through 27 because It's it's important to show that this is what?

Starts the seven-year tribulation period the Antichrist has to be there. He's the one that Amen with an action Starts the seven-year tribulation period. So let's let's read this. I'm gonna start in verse 25.

Okay. No, therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of the anointed one Which is Jesus a prince there shall be seven weeks then for 62 weeks.

It shall be.

Again, sorry, it shall be built again with squares and moat but in troubled time. And after the 62 weeks an anointed one shall be cut off and Shall have nothing and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

It's in shall come with a flood and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed and He shall make a strong covenant with many. This is the Antichrist. For one week and for half of the week He shall put an end to sacrifice and offering and on the wing of abominations Shall come one who makes desolate until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.

So I think there's some important things to go through here. Because a lot of confusion arises even from these few scriptures. The first thing I wanted to mention is the fact that okay. The angels speaking to Daniel.

He says there's 70 weeks decreed to you and your people. He's talking Specifically to Israel, correct? That's right. Okay, so this is not talking about to the whole world. This is 70 weeks that are specific to dealing with Israel.

Okay. Exactly so we're talking about the people of Israel and their land. So then you have yet. So you have seven weeks then you have 62 weeks. So that's 69. Okay 69 weeks have been completed because the anointed one was Jesus.

Jesus came died on the cross and Went to heaven. Ascended to heaven the final 70th week has not happened yet. Very clear that the final 70th week starts with The Antichrist confirming the covenant with many.

Why some people I'm sure you've heard this some people say that the he shall who makes the covenant that this is Jesus and.

That this happened. Yeah, and when they do that, that is just completely sloppy grammar because you're skipping over the nearest possible reference.

Which that that's just not grammar exactly. It's it's literally not using grammar.

So also what's very interesting about this is you have the Lord Jesus cut off after the 69th week. Not during the 69th week. After the 69th week and then you have the people of the prince that shall come.

Destroying Jerusalem in 70 AD and some unknown point after that. The prince that shall come does come. So you've got a window there between the 69th and 70th week. And that passage doesn't tell us how long that window is, but you have a window there.

You can't get around it.

Yeah, and you know Jesus. Perfectly illustrated this gap or this window for us when he read from Isaiah. And he said I've come I've take I've decreed the day of the Lord the acceptable bit the second year of the Lord.

That's right in Liberty to the captives. And he stops at a comma.

That's right.

And the next thing in after that comma is. And the day of the vengeance of the Lord our God, so. So that comma clearly has been now about 2 ,000 years. That's exactly right. So it's the same thing here that we see in Daniel 9.

It's it's this this period that Lee was mentioning. That's not really mentioned how long it is. But there's clearly a period between the destruction of of Israel which happened after Jesus was crucified.

Till the point where this Prince finally does come. And so this grammar that we're talking about here, you know, verse 26 says. After the the 62 weeks the Anointed one will be cut off and the people of the Prince who is to come.

So this is the person that is being referred to when you are looking at verse 27. It says. And he shall make a strong covenant. The way grammar works that you go back to the last individual named. That is the Prince.

So you there's zero way to make this Jesus. It is for a fact.

I.

Love him. I love him. Yeah, like I mean I just myself man right off rib if I may. It's like it's how do you he. Wants to talk so much about grammar and and everything else, but I mean we skipped we skipped.

Verse 24.

Yeah, that was very important, right? So I you know, like so Daniel is very near and dear to me. I've looked at it in the Hebrew. I've looked at it and the Greek sect to a gin like like what we have in our possession is.

It's correct when it comes to the grammar. And so we're just we're just gonna I mean like there's there's definitely other videos where I go through this and I break it down in depth. I'm not gonna do that tonight, you know, like I go through, you know.

And.

I break down the Seven weeks the 62 weeks and then the last seven weeks like I'm breaking it down. I can pinpoint you the year but just to To give a summation of it, you know. The decree I believe went out with King Artaxerxes.

And so Jesus I believe was born Around 3 BC 4 BC. And so the 69th week would have been. Well, let me. Let's read it and then we'll walk through it. I don't want to get confused.

And if yeah, and if possible, you know show some grace and if you really want to walk through it in whole and have us Like brush up and study and go over it with you. We'd be more than happy to any time.

I mean I have notes for it that I can pull up and I've already done it on this podcast before. Where I like, you know, just like broke down the years and stuff like that. So it begins with okay so first, you know, we have Daniel praying and Then and then in Daniel 9 verse 1 and 2 and then we find out verse 17 and 18.

It tells you what a desolation is. And so if you go back and listen to the conversation with me and Braden and Matthew 24, I believe it's the second one we talk about the desolation. A Desolation is when Israel is is is is is taken out of their land.

So when they're taken out of the land, that's the desolation. All right. So it says 70 weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city. So he's speaking to Daniel. So the people here would be the Jews and Then the holy city will be Jerusalem and they agreed with that and then it says that he's going to do six things finish transgressions put an end to sin and a tone for iniquity to bring about everlasting righteousness.

To seal both vision and prophet and to anoint the most holy place. Now I would argue Yeah, so I would argue this is something that Jesus did already has done through his Life death burial and resurrection.

Right and again if y 'all want me to come back and cover that I will. I've already done this. But I'll be happy to do that again. This is talking about the gospel. And in Hebrews chapter 9 where it talks about yom kippur.

The Day of Atonement the Day of Atonement means the end of sin. Jesus became a high priest and the sacrifice to do what to put an end to sin. And then we're going to see that same language come up here in a minute.

And it says no for certain. I mean, I know therefore and understand it from the going out of the word and restored rebuild Jerusalem and to the coming of the Anointed One a prince right here and Everyone has 100 agreed that this prince the Anointed One a prince is speaking of Jesus Christ.

Amen.

Okay, praise God. Hallelujah. Holler back. Yeah, there shall be devil. Don't get no credit in the Bible man. The devil's got no place in the Bible. The devil is a dead snake.

Right, right.

All right.

So no therefore and understand that from the going out of the word and to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to the coming of an Anointed One a prince. So this is not Antichrist. This is the Christ. Is the prince who shall there shall be seven weeks and forty two weeks.

62 weeks. Yeah 60s. I'm sorry 62 weeks. I Got a little little messed up 62 weeks and it shall be built again with square moat. But the but in times of trouble and after the 62 weeks an Anointed One shall come.

So again, who's this Anointed One the nearest and to seated? The Anointed One a Prince. So the Anointed One in chapter 26 is the Anointed One in chapter. I mean in verse the Anointed One in verse 26 is the Anointed One in verse 25.

Who is a prince? So absolutely. So back to 26 and it says. And after this an Anointed One shall be cut off and have nothing and. The people of the prince who's the prince? Jesus go back to the nearest and to seated 25.

Jesus Who shall come and destroy the city? So notice it ain't the prince that comes and destroys the city. It's the people of the prince. All right, who who is his people same people as Daniel's people the Jews.

This is speaking about the Jewish revolt. They are destroying their own city. But like read about it's as though it's like this is not that this is history they shall destroy the city and the sanctuary and It shall come its end shall come with the flood and it's in their end shall be wars.

Desolation is decree and he so this he here. They're saying is the Antichrist nearest and to seated would be the prince. But we done established that the nearest and to seated from the prince is the prince the anointed Prince Jesus so that he here and he is Jesus Christ not Antichrist.

My big problem with Dispensationalism when it comes to this is that they try to make Jesus Christ the Antichrist in order to to to fit their. Yeah, yeah, because they believe that the 70th week has not taken place.

All right, and so and he. They would say Antichrist and who I would say is Jesus Christ shall make a strong covenant with many for one week and in half of the week he shall in half of the week he shall put it in to sacrifice and offerings.

Remember Jesus is going to do six things. Remember those six things he was going to do.

Finish.

Transgressions put an end to sin atone for iniquity. Bring about everlasting righteousness. Seal both vision and prophet and anoint the most holy place right here. And Half of the week he's going to he shall put an end to sacrifices and offerings.

When Jesus died there need not be any more Sacrifice and offerings in Hebrews 6. This is what the Hebrews 6 is talked about. When they're they're going back in their sacrifice, and they're crucifying once again the Lord The Lord by going back.

This is the abomination that causes desolation. The abomination is then Continuing to sacrifice after the one sacrifice once and for all sacrifice has been made by them going back. That's the abomination.

All right, so so when Jesus came I believe that. So when Jesus came on the earth. Well, excuse me. So I Now let me go back to the time frame so I believe from 60. The 62 weeks so if you if you go back Jesus would have been born at 3 or 4 BC and I believe the The 16 the 69th week would have been.

Would have been Jesus's baptism, right? So I believe Jesus would have been 30 years old at his baptism. This would have been 27 ad and at 30 ad. This would have been midway so so I believe this covenant that is made is made at his Baptism.

Jesus starts his ministry. Three and a half years after he starts his ministry. He is crucified. All right. Three and a half years after his crucifixion would have been the 70th week or am I saying it, right?

Man, I mean I.

Can go back to my notes, but.

Up your clothes if not on it, I'm not. I'm not a hundred percent with the timeline to be honest.

I I might have it wrong with the 69 in the 70s a week. But but this is what I know for sure. Is that the 70th week? Took place at like it would have ended. The seventh week would have ended I believe at 34 ad If I'm not mistaken.

So yeah, that would put.

Yeah, so the birth of Christ. The birth of Christ would have been 4 BC and then his baptism would have been in 27 ad and then he would have So seven years another week would have been the 70th week. All right.

Yeah, so the 70th week would have been 34 ad and that's where I have Peter seeing the vision of Of the of the the blanket that are the sheet coming down with a With the animals and he's told to go eat and he goes and he preaches to the God-fearers who are Gentiles.

And.

Then that and that would have been this about around the same time that Paul Is knocked off his high horse. Well, Paul had already been knocked off his high horse, but Paul is Commissioned to go and preach to the Gentiles so after the 70th week.

The.

The door is open for the new covenant to spread to the Gentiles because During the 70th weeks 70 weeks. God is only dealing with Jerusalem. 70 weeks are decreed for you for your people in your holy city and Again if you want to go back to what we believe all about that go to our last few messages on Matthew chapter 24.

Because we believe that this has already happened. There is no future 70 70th week that is to come and then a pre-tribulation Rapture takes place and then seven years of wrath being poured out on the earth.

That seven years of wrath is nowhere in the Bible. The three and a half years is and we we cover that that's from 66 AD to midpoint of 70 AD and this is where the Jewish revolt takes place. God sends Roman Rome comes in because the the Jewish revolt God sends Rome.

Because of the sacrifice the continuing sacrifice on the offering on the altar after Jesus made the once-and-for-all sacrifice and so the the main point of Speaking against these gentlemen tonight is that they say that the grammar that there's no way with the grammar again.

I've looked at this in the Hebrew. I've looked at this in the.

In the.

Greek Septuagint. Like there's no and in the English several different English Bibles, there's no way to get anything else from this. The verse 27 the nearest antecedent is the Prince in verse 26 and.

The.

The nearest antecedent to the Prince is the Prince in verse 25, which is the anointed one. Actually the nearest antecedent for the Prince would be the. After the 62 weeks the anointed one will be cut off.

But we see in verse 25 that the anointed one is the priest the nearest antecedent speaking of the people.

Where.

Has to be the people where it speaks about Daniel. A decree has been made for your people in your holy city. Daniel is speaking about three. It's speaking about Daniel. It's speaking about his people.

The Jews is speaking about a messianic figure. And then and then. Verse 27 here at the end. It says. And on the wing of an abomination shall come one who makes desolate. Until the end is decreed is poured out on the desolator.

So I would say that that is the high priest and at that time at this in the 70th week I would say that that was Phineas Ben Samuel. Who was the very last high priest that was not a part of the five families?

He was in the temple when it was destroyed. This has nothing to do. Again, Rome comes in and destroys it but they come in to destroy it because of the Jewish revolt. They were destroying the city. They were trying to take it over.

And there's I mean there's tons and tons of historic evidence to back this.

Yeah.

So my point tonight is to show that the he in verse 27 is Not an Antichrist. In order for this to be an Antichrist the text would have to tell us in verses 26 and 25 are somewhere it in the context that it's Antichrist.

The word Antichrist is only mentioned in two books of the Bible 1st John and 2nd John. That's the only places that it's mentioned and in 1st John. The the the Antichrist are the 1st John chapter 2 or talks about that.

They went out from us because they were not of us. This is speaking covenantal. It actually says that they deny that Jesus is the Christ. Who was it that denied that Jesus was the Christ? Well, it's the people of the Prince the Jews.

The Jews. Jesus came to his own and his own people did not receive him. They denied that he was the Christ. So when it says that they went out from us for they were not of us is speaking about the Jews of that time.

It's not speaking about a guy that professed to be a believer and he left your church and he ended up not being a believer. I mean, I guess you can make some kind of Application of that but that's not what it's speaking about and.

Also in 2nd John verse 7 it talks about someone who denies that Jesus Christ came into the flesh.

And.

There at that time there was a man by the name of Serenthes who taught that the Christ came upon Jesus at his baptism and that once. And then once Jesus was crucified Jesus the Christ left Jesus and he was and he stayed dead and buried.

And John is saying this is Antichrist or speaking against. They're denying that Jesus came in the flesh and they're denying that Jesus is the Christ. So if your Antichrist figure doesn't match those things and it's not Antichrist.

Which I would say that any Jew today that doesn't believe that Jesus is the Christ is Antichrist. Any atheist That doesn't believe that Jesus is the Christ is Antichrist.

Any.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or because they deny him that they think he's Michael the Archangel. They are Antichrist. Mormons Antichrist. But name on Islam they're Antichrist.

They deny the the real Christ so.

There's yeah, there's no.

There's no fence. You're on one side or the other. Yeah. I mean, that's why the Bible says there's many Antichrist.

It's a you know, it's a if we were to if we were to bring it to street terms, you know it. You got your team your crew. Will create you part of your you're either in Christ or you're not. There's no in-between.

It's simple. Yeah.

All right, and again if you're from generation 2434 and you want to have a You know an open debate. I'll gladly You know open my message that I had to for this portion and use it to explain it better.

And more detail. But I just tonight I just wanted to show that there's no, you know, their interpretation of Antichrist and Daniel chapter 9 is bogus. Like there's no way to make the he there or the Prince Antichrist.

It can only be Jesus Christ. There's no other way. If anyone if you're listening and you want to have a debate on this, please contact me. I love nothing more than to have you on. Again, I got deep. I got it written out in detail and I will use that as my manuscript.

So I guess at this time we'll go to Romans chapter 2. And so what we'll do is I'll go ahead.

Well, I just wanted to want to throw in. You know, but it really it comes down to convictions, right? So it's Philippians 2 12 Therefore my beloved as you have always obeyed so now not only as in my presence but much more in my absence work out your own salvation with fear and Trembling and then we'll go into verse 13 to for it is God who works in you both to will and to work for his good Pleasure and then so that's all we're trying to do here.

And that's why we love the dialogue. I mean as iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another it's we. I love watching it. So we have great mediators. We've got a lot of friends who would love to support something like that and help us do it in the right way.

So don't don't be afraid to reach out. We would love to have the debate.

Right.

All right, so if y 'all remember last time Austin was on we read chapter 1 of Romans and then we we looked at the first part of chapter 2 and I think that's be very important before Reading much more that we bring into context what chapter 2 is is saying.

So so just right off the rip it says therefore. You have no excuse. Oh, man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on one another you condemn yourself. Because you the judge practice the very same thing.

So so just to give some some context of some historical context during the reign of Claudius the Emperor Claudius The Jews were removed from Rome and so now you have the Jews coming back into Rome and They were not like the Jews and the in the gent and the Jewish Christians and the Gentile Christians were not getting along right they were not receiving each other.

I mean if you ask me most of the New Testament letters is speaking on this Subject so before we Austin it. Could you read Ephesians? I'm gonna pull the Ephesians chapter 2. Yeah, read Ephesians chapter 2 beginning in verse 11, and I'll just tell you when to stop.

All right. Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision Which is made in the flesh by hands Remember that you were at times separated from Christ alienated from the Commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise Having no hope and without God in the world.

But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought you excuse me brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh The dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments Exposed and ordinances that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two so making peace and Might reconcile us both to God and one body through the cross thereby killing the hostility.

All right, that's he came.

Well, yeah, so so read verse 16. I mean I was 17 and stopped there and.

He came and preached peace to you who were far off in peace to those who were near.

All right. So the ones that are far off would be Gentiles and the ones that are near would be the Jews. And so right here we see that there is a division. So so in the New Testament, we spoke about this last week a little bit.

I was trying to make my case that the New Testament, you know, very rarely addresses the Gentiles and the Jews as one people. But but but we're told here that the dividing wall of hostility has been broken down and he is Making the two one in Christ in in Christ.

We are the church whether you're Jew or Gentile in Christ. You are the church. But all throughout the scriptures we see it in first John in first John the Jews were not Welcoming to their Gentile brothers that were hating them.

This is one of the the sins that he is speaking about telling them that you know that you're walking in darkness. You know when it talks about hating your brother, it's speaking of the Jewish Christian not receiving the Gentile Christian Galatians the the Jews were trying to get the supposed Jewish Christians were trying to get the the Gentiles to circumcise himself that they needed to become a Jew in order to become a Christian and so they were not welcoming and so the Jews were removed at this time during the reign of Claudius from Rome.

Claudius dies the Jews return to Rome and trying to You know be established in the church and it's a mixed church Jews and Gentiles. Paul is writing this letter trying to You know unscramble the eggs, right like there's all you know, he's trying to Explain that the dividing wall of hostility is down no longer.

She would be hating each other and so in chapter 1 he mentions that the the Gospels for Both the Jews and the Gentiles it says to the Jew first and also to the Gentiles and and Austin read and we might want To read through this again, Austin.

Okay, verse 18 through 32 of chapter 1 if you want to read that.

Yeah, absolutely. And then where do you want me to. You may just stop there before we roll into chapter 2.

Yeah, so. Read all the way to 32 and then I'll read the first verse of 21 and then we'll talk about that for a second.

Okay.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all and godliness and all unrighteousness of men Who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth for what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them for his invisible attributes namely his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and The things that have been made.

So they are without excuse for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him. But they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened claiming to be wise they became fools and exchanged the glory of immortal God for images resembling mortal men and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in their lusts and the lusts of their hearts to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies amongst themselves because they exchange the truth about God for a lie and Worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator who is blessed forever.

Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those That are contrary to nature and the men likewise gave up third and gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passions for one another men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error and Since they did not see fit to acknowledge God God gave them up to a devised mind to do what ought not to be done.