The times of the Gentiles, and Daniel 9, “who makes the covenant with many?”

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are live welcome to open -air theology. My name is

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Jeff. I'm one of the pastors at Covenant before I get it out a second

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Covenant Reformed Baptist Church. We meet here in, Tallahoma, Tennessee So if you're ever in the

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Tennessee area or particularly down in, Tallahoma Please come by and check us out

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I'm here with my good buddy Austin Austin has been on the channel before him and I are committed to walk through the book of Romans together

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Austin brother want to go ahead and introduce yourself My name is Austin hammers, I am in South Carolina just a local over the

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Lord man Enjoyed joining this podcast. I learned a lot with Jeff. I won't lie to you guys.

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I call Jeff often with questions and just dialogue so we As iron sharpens iron and it's really

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I just enjoy being here and I enjoy the opportunity to walk through scripture with Jeff Amen so There's really a lot on our plate tonight that we're going to be discussing so him and I like I said earlier have committed to walk through the book of Romans, but also

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I'm going to be answering an interpretation off of someone else's podcast

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And also and if you notice last week if you watched last week me and Braden were going back and forth and Matthew chapter 24

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Braden has his own YouTube channel where he kind of goes back and discusses some of these things

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And so if you want to check that out, hey, his YouTube channel is called the reformed ex -mormon

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This is my channel. So Like anytime that I'm able to get on it's only on through only through here

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So I'm going to be kind of Discussing a little bit of what we talked about last week towards the end.

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So this is going to be kind of a longer show But it's only to put it down What I believe and for him and I to go back over and discuss it later

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And when it comes to that we're going to be looking at the times of the Gentiles Last week I asked for grace concern in Romans chapter 11.

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I Haven't been through a deep study of it But I think I got but I think I got a handle on it and I'll kind of present that tonight of what

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I see taking place but first we're going to start off with a short video

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So I could so I'm not smart enough Austin was but we couldn't get the audio to work for us to bring up the video and to play it but I do have the video up on my

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On my iPad and so I'm going to start it and you'll be able to hear the audio coming through my microphone this is taken from Generation.

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So the YouTube channel is called generation 2434 and so what he is speaking of is

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Matthew 2434 and it's what he would consider the generation of the fig tree.

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So if you go back to verse 32 For the context of what his

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YouTube channel is about it says from the fig tree. So this is Matthew 2432 from the fig tree learn its lesson as You see its branches becoming tender and put out its leaves, you know that summer is near so also when you see these things

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You know that he is near at the very gates truly I say to you this generation will not pass away

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Until all these things take place so he sees the you here as not speaking in the near demonstrative and that the generation here also

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I Mean, I mean he sees that the you here is not in the second person plural and that the generation is not in the near demonstrative

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So he sees that this generation is someone who sees The The fig tree

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Become tender and puts out its leaves. So so their interpretation. So he is a premillennial

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Dispensational and so he believes that in 1948 when Israel became a nation that is the generation of the fig tree the fig tree generation and So His channel is called

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Generation 2434. He believes that this is the generation that sees these things taking place in Matthew 24 and so I Listen to him quite often.

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I like the brother I Believe him to be a Christian. There's I have no reason not to believe

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I don't agree with his interpretation on a lot of things Which really he only

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Deals with eschatology, which that's great. I mean if you know me, you know that I'm an eschatology nerd

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This is something that it's like a hobby to me right like one or two days a week

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I do nothing but listen to other people's opinion concern and eschatology and So I listen to this guy a lot, but he has a guest on Trying to see

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I can't say his name he has a guest on And so they're gonna be talking just for a brief second so they're talking about revelation they're talking about the seals the seven seals and I can leave a link to his

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Well, I know I definitely can leave a link in my on my Facebook page we'll put in the comments, yeah

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Where y 'all can go back and listen to it. I can do it now while you're yeah while you're talking

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All right, and so for anyone that wants to go back and listen to it so the conversation that we're going to be listening to begins at 12 minutes and 48 seconds and it's going to be

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Switching to the book of Daniel Daniel chapter 9 and if you know me you know that I love the book of Daniel especially chapter 9, right and so When I was listening to him, he brought up something.

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He says some people believe this But we believe and and then they start saying that they don't see how someone could believe the other way and I'm thinking

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I believe that way and so what I did was was I Comment it in the comments and you know, very gracefully

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Told him, you know, I listened to Your podcast quite often

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I I'm pretty sure I read it to him that I believe him to be a brother But if he was wanting some pushback

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I'd love to come on his channel and give us some pushback on it or I would be willing to have him on open -air theology

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And then I said either way, you know, so this would been yesterday tomorrow night. I'm gonna be talking about What you just spoke about and going over this video and I you know told him how he could you know

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All you have to do is click on my channel and you'll be able to see it so There's opportunity for him or anyone else that watches his stuff to click on and see what we have to say

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So without further further ado, I'll go ahead Now that it's fair game, you know, it's we we don't want to sit here and act like our opinion is the only correct opinion possible

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That's not true. So and we understand that we know that there's room for We'll say you're wrong and you'll say we're wrong and that's okay.

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It's about being biblical and open here. That's all Yeah, so we like the discussion.

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Yeah So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna move my mic Excuse me. I'm gonna move my mic closer to my iPad and hopefully y 'all will be able to hear it real well

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It's not a long segment. So I'm just gonna let it play. I'm not gonna stop and kind of go at it But we're just gonna answer the objective

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All right. Let's see The first seal shows that the

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Antichrist is on the scene he's the writer of the white horse Yeah, and I want to read that scripture.

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He mentioned Daniel 9 25 through 27 because It's it's important to show that this is what?

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Starts the seven -year tribulation period the Antichrist has to be there.

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He's the one that Amen with an action Starts the seven -year tribulation period.

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So let's let's read this. I'm gonna start in verse 25. Okay No, therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build

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Jerusalem to the coming of the anointed one Which is Jesus a prince there shall be seven weeks then for 62 weeks

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It shall be again, sorry, it shall be built again with squares and moat but in troubled time and after the 62 weeks an anointed one shall be cut off and Shall have nothing and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

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It's in shall come with a flood and to the end there shall be war desolations are decreed and He shall make a strong covenant with many.

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This is the Antichrist For one week and for half of the week He shall put an end to sacrifice and offering and on the wing of abominations

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Shall come one who makes desolate until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator

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So I think there's some important things to go through here Because a lot of confusion arises even from these few scriptures

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The first thing I wanted to mention is the fact that okay The angels speaking to Daniel.

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He says there's 70 weeks decreed to you and your people. He's talking Specifically to Israel, correct?

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That's right. Okay, so this is not talking about to the whole world. This is 70 weeks that are specific to dealing with Israel Okay Exactly so we're talking about the people of Israel and their land

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So then you have yes, so you have seven weeks. Then you have 62 weeks. So that's 69 Okay 69 weeks have been completed because the anointed one was

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Jesus Jesus came died on the cross and went to heaven

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Ascended to heaven the final 70th week has not happened yet and the

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Bible made it very clear that the final 70th week starts with The Antichrist confirming the covenant with many

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Why some people I'm sure you've heard this some people say that the he shall who makes the covenant that this is

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Jesus and that Yeah Because you're skipping over the nearest possible referent

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Which that that's just not grammar exactly. It's literally not using grammar

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So also what's very interesting about this is you have the Lord Jesus cut off after the 69th week not during the 69th week after the 69th week and Then you have the people of the prince that shall come

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Destroying Jerusalem in 70 AD and some unknown point after that The prince that shall come does come

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So you've got a window there between the 69th and 70th week

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And that passage doesn't tell us how long that window is but you have a window there. You can't get around it

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Yeah, and you know Jesus Perfectly illustrated this gap or this window for us when he read from Isaiah and he said

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I've come I Decreed the day of the Lord the acceptable bit the second full year of the Lord That's right in Liberty to the captives and he stops at a comma

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That's right and the next thing in after that comma is and the day of the vengeance of the

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Lord our God, so So that comma clearly has been now about 2 ,000 years

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Exactly, right. So it's the same thing here that we see in Daniel 9. It's it's this this period that Leo is mentioning that's not really mentioned how long it is, but there's clearly a period between the destruction of Israel which happened after Jesus was crucified

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Till the point where this Prince finally does come and so this grammar that we're talking about here, you know verse 26 says

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After the the 62 weeks the anointed one will be cut off and the people of the

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Prince Who is to come? So this is the person that is being referred to when you are looking at verse 27

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It says and he shall make a strong covenant the way grammar works that you go back to the last

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Individual named that is the Prince So you there's zero way to make this

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Jesus it is for a fact I love them.

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I love yeah, like I mean, I just myself man right off rib if I may it's like it's how do you he?

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Wants to talk so much about grammar and and everything else, but I mean we skipped we skipped verse 24

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Yeah, that was very important, right? So I you know, like so Daniel is is very near and dear to me

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I've looked at it in the Hebrew I've looked at it and the Greek sect to agent like like what we have in our possession is

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It's correct when it comes to the grammar And so we're just we're just gonna I mean like there's there's definitely other videos where I go through this and I break it down in depth

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I'm not gonna do that tonight, you know, like I go through, you know, and I break down the

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Seven weeks to 62 weeks and then the last seven weeks like I'm breaking it down I can pinpoint you the year but just to to give a summation of it, you know

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The the decree I believe went out with King Artaxerxes And so Jesus I believe was born

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Around 3 BC 4 BC. And so the 69th week would have been

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Well, let me Let's read it and then we'll walk through it.

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I don't want to get confused And if yeah, if possible, you know show some grace and if you really want to walk through it in whole and have us like Brush up and study and go over it with you.

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We'd be more than happy to any time I mean I have notes for it that I can pull up and I've already done it on this podcast

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Before where I like, you know, just like broke down the years and stuff like that. So it begins with okay

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So first, you know, we have Daniel praying and then and then in Daniel 9 verse 1 and 2

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And then we find out verse 17 and 18 It tells you what a desolation is And so if you go back and listen to the conversation when me and Braden and Matthew 24

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I believe it's the second one. We talk about the desolation a Desolation is when

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Israel is Taken out of their land. So when they're taken out of the land, that's the desolation

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All right. So it says 70 weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city

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So he's speaking to Daniel. So the people here would be the Jews and Then the holy city will be

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Jerusalem and they agreed with that and then it says that he's going to do six things

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Finish transgressions put an end to sin and a tone for iniquity to bring about everlasting righteousness

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To seal both vision and prophet and to anoint the most holy place

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Now I would argue Yeah, so I would argue this is something that Jesus did already has done through his

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Life death burial and resurrection All right, and again if y 'all want me to come back and cover that I will

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I've already done this But I'll be happy to do that again. This is talking about the gospel And in Hebrews chapter 9 where it talks about Yom Kippur The Day of Atonement the

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Day of Atonement means the end of sin Jesus became a high priest and the sacrifice to do what to put an end to sin

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And then we're going to see that same language come up here in a minute And it says no for certain.

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I mean, I know therefore and understand it from the going out of the word and restored rebuild

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Jerusalem and to the coming of the anointed one a prince right here and Everyone has 100 % agreed that this

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Prince the anointed one a prince is speaking of Jesus Christ Amen, okay, praise

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God. Hallelujah. Holler back Yeah, there shall be devil. Don't get no credit in the Bible man.

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The devil's got no place in the Bible the devil is a dead snake Right, right

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All right So no therefore and understand that from the going out of the word and to restore and rebuild

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Jerusalem To the coming of an anointed one a prince This is not

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Antichrist. This is the Christ Is the Prince who shall there shall be seven weeks and forty two weeks 62 weeks.

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Yeah 60s. I'm sorry 62 weeks. I Got a little little messed up 62 weeks and it shall be built again with square moat

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But the but in times of trouble and after the 62 weeks and anointed one shall come

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So again, who's this anointed one the nearest and to seated? The anointed one a

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Prince so the anointed one in chapter 26 is the anointed one in chapter

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I mean in verse the anointed one in verse 26 is the anointed one in verse 25 who is a prince so absolutely so back to 26 and it says and after this an anointed one shall be cut off and have nothing and The people of the

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Prince who's the Prince? Jesus go back to the nearest and to seated 25

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Jesus Who shall come and destroy the city? So notice it ain't the

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Prince that comes and destroys the city It's the people of the Prince. All right, who who is his people same people as Daniel's people?

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the Jews This is speaking about the Jewish revolt. They are destroying their own city

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But like read about it's as though it's like this is not that this is history They shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

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And it shall come its end shall come with the flood and it's in their end shall be wars

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Desolation is decree and he so this he here They're saying is the

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Antichrist nearest and to seated would be the Prince But we done established that the nearest and to seated from the

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Prince is the Prince the anointed Prince Jesus so that he here and he is

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Jesus Christ not Antichrist my big problem with Dispensationalism when it comes to this is that they try to make

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Jesus Christ the Antichrist in order to to to fit their

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Yeah, yeah, because they believe that the 70th week has not taken place

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All right, and so and he They would say Antichrist and who

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I would say is Jesus Christ shall make a strong covenant with many for one week and in half of the week, he shall half of the week he shall put it in to Sacrifice and offerings remember

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Jesus is going to do six things Remember those six things he was going to do

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Finish Transgressions put an end to sin atone for iniquity

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Bring about everlasting righteousness still both vision and profit and anoint the most holy place right here and Half of the week he's going to he shall put an end to sacrifices and offerings

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When Jesus died there need not be any more Sacrifice and offerings in Hebrews 6.

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This is what the Hebrews 6 is talked about When they're they're going back in their sacrifice and they're crucifying once again the

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Lord The Lord by going back. This is the abomination that causes desolation the abomination is then

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Continuing to sacrifice after the one sacrifice once and for all sacrifice has been made by them going back

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That's the abomination All right, so so when

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Jesus came I believe that So when Jesus came on the earth

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Well, excuse me. So I'm Now, let me go back to the time frame.

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So I believe from 60 The 62 weeks so if you if you go back

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Jesus would have been born at 3 or 4 BC and I believe the

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The 16 the 69th week would have been Would have been

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Jesus's baptism, right? So I believe Jesus would have been 30 years old at his baptism

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This would have been 27 AD and at 30 AD This would have been midway so so I believe this covenant that is made is made at his

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Baptism Jesus starts his ministry Three and a half years after he starts his ministry

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He is crucified All right Three and a half years after his crucifixion would have been the 70th week or am

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I saying it, right? yeah, I mean I can go back to my notes, but I Your clothes if not on it.

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I'm not I'm not a hundred percent with the timeline to be honest I I might have it wrong with the 69 in the 70s a week, but but this is what

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I know for sure Is that the 70th week? Took place at like it would have ended the seventh week would have ended

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I believe at 34 AD If I'm not mistaken

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So yeah, that would put Yeah, so the birth of Christ The birth of Christ would have been 4

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BC and then his baptism would have been a 27 AD and then he would have

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So seven years another week would have been the 70th week All right.

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Yeah, so the 70th week would have been 34 AD and that's where I have Peter seeing the vision of The of the the blanket that are the sheep coming down with a

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With the animals and he's told to go eat and he goes and he preaches to the God -fearers who are

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Gentiles and Then that and that would have been this about around the same time that Paul Is knocked off his high horse.

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Well, Paul had already been knocked off his high horse, but Paul is Commissioned to go and preach to the

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Gentiles so after the 70th week The Door is open for the new covenant to spread to the

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Gentiles because During the 70th weeks 70 weeks. God is only dealing with Jerusalem 70 weeks are decreed for you for your people in your holy city and Again if you want to go back to what we believe all about that go to our last few messages on Matthew chapter 24

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Because we believe that this has already happened. There is no future 7070th week that is to come and then a pre -tribulation

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Rapture takes place and then seven years of wrath being poured out on the earth

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That seven years of wrath is nowhere in the Bible the three and a half years is and we we cover that that's from 66

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AD to midpoint of 70 AD and this is where the

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Jewish revolt takes place God sends Roman Rome comes in because the the

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Jewish revolt God sends Rome Because of the sacrifice the continuing sacrifice on the offering on the altar after Jesus made the once -and -for -all sacrifice and so the the main point of Speaking against these gentlemen tonight is that they say that the grammar that there's no way with the grammar again

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I've looked at this in the Hebrew. I've looked at this in the in the

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Greek Septuagint Like there's no and in the English several different English Bibles, there's no way to get anything else from this the verse 27 the nearest antecedent is the

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Prince in verse 26 and the The nearest antecedent to the

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Prince is the Prince in verse 25, which is the anointed one actually the nearest antecedent for the

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Prince would be the After the 62 weeks the anointed one will be cut off But we see in verse 25 that the anointed one is the priest the nearest antecedent speaking of the people where Has to be the people where it speaks about Daniel a decree has been made for your people in your holy city

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Daniel is speaking about three It's speaking about Daniel. It's speaking about his people.

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The Jews is speaking about a messianic figure and then and then

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Verse 27 here at the end. It says and on the wing of an abomination shall come one who makes desolate

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Until the end is decreed is poured out on the desolator So I would say that that is the high priest and at that time at this in the 70th week

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I would say that that was Phineas Ben Samuel Who was the very last high priest that was not a part of the five families?

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He was in the temple when it was destroyed This has nothing to do Again, Rome comes in and destroys it but they come in to destroy it because of the

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Jewish revolt They were destroying the city. They were trying to take it over And there's

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I mean there's tons and tons of historical evidence to back this Yeah So my point tonight is to show that the he in verse 27 is

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Not an Antichrist in order for this to be an Antichrist the text would have to tell us in verses 26 and 25 are somewhere it in the context that it's

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Antichrist The word Antichrist is only mentioned in two books of the

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Bible 1st John and 2nd John That's the only places that it's mentioned and in 1st

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John the the Antichrist are the 1st John chapter 2 or talks about that they went out from us because they were not of us

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This is speaking covenantal And actually says that they deny that Jesus is the

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Christ who was it that denied that Jesus was the Christ Well, it's the people of the

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Prince the Jews The Jews Jesus came to his own and his own people did not receive him.

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They denied that he was the Christ So when it says that they went out from us for they were not of us is speaking about the

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Jews of that time It's not speaking about a guy that professed to be a believer and he left your church and he ended up not being a believer

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I mean, I guess you can make some kind of Application of that but that's not what it's speaking about and Also in 2nd

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John verse 7 it talks about someone who denies that Jesus Christ came into the flesh and now at that time there was a man by the name of Serenthes who taught that the

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Christ came upon Jesus at his baptism and that once And then once Jesus was crucified

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Jesus the Christ left Jesus and he was and he stayed dead and buried and John is saying this is

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Antichrist or speaking against they're denying that Jesus came in the flesh and they're denying that Jesus is the

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Christ So if your Antichrist figure doesn't match those things and it's not

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Antichrist Which I would say that any Jew today that doesn't believe that Jesus is the

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Christ is Antichrist any atheist That doesn't believe that Jesus is the Christ is Antichrist any

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Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or because they deny him that they think he's

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Michael the Archangel They are Antichrist Mormons Antichrist But name on Islam they're

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Antichrist they deny the the real Christ so There's yeah, there's no

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There's no fence. You're on one side or the other. Yeah. I mean, that's why the Bible says there's many

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Antichrist It's a you know, it's a if we were to if we were to bring it to street terms, you know it

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You You got your team your crew what create you part of your you're either in Christ or you're not there's no in -between it's simple

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Yeah All right, and again if you're from generation 2434 and you want to have a

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You know an open debate. I'll gladly You Know open my message that I had to for this portion and use it to explain it better In more detail, but I just tonight

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I just wanted to show that there's no, you know, their interpretation of Antichrist and Daniel chapter 9 is bogus

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Like there's no way to make the he there or the Prince Antichrist It can only be

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Jesus Christ There's no other way and if anyone if you're listening and you want to have a debate on this, please contact me

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I love nothing more than I have you on Again, I got deep. I got it written out in detail and I will use that as my manuscript

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So I guess at this time we'll go to Romans chapter 2 and so what we'll do is

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Go ahead Well, I just wanted to want to throw in You know

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It really it comes down to convictions, right? So it's Philippians 2 12 Therefore my beloved as you have always obeyed

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So now not only as in my presence But much more in my absence work out your own Salvation with fear and trembling and then we'll go into verse 13 to you for it is

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God who works in you both You will and to work for his good pleasure. And then so that's all we're trying to do here

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And that's why we love the dialogue. I mean as iron sharpens iron. So one man sharpens another it's we

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Who I love watching it. So we have great mediators We've got a lot of friends who would love to support something like that and help us do it in the right way

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So don't don't be afraid to reach out. We would love to have the debate right

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All right, so if y 'all remember last time Austin was on we read chapter 1 of Romans and then we we

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Looked at the first part of chapter 2 and I think that's be very important before Reading much more that we bring into context.

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What chapter 2 is is saying So so just right off the rip it says therefore

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You have no excuse. Oh, man, every one of you who judges

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For in passing judgment on one another you condemn yourself Because you the judge practice the very same thing so so just to give some some context of some historical context

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During the reign of Claudius the Emperor Claudius The Jews were removed from Rome and so now you have the

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Jews coming back into Rome and They were not like the

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Jews and the in the gent and the Jewish Christians and the Gentile Christians were not getting along right they were not receiving each other

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I mean if you ask me most of the New Testament letters is speaking on this subject so before we

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Austin it could you read Ephesians? I'm gonna pull it

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Ephesians chapter 2 Yeah, read

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Ephesians chapter 2 beginning in verse 11, and I'll just tell you when to stop All right

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Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision

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Which is made in the flesh by hands Remember that you were at times separated from Christ Alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise

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Having no hope and without God in the world But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought you excuse me brought near by the blood of Christ For he himself is our peace

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Who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments?

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Exposed and ordinances that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two so making peace and Might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross thereby killing the hostility

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All right, that's a game Well, yeah, so so read verse 16.

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I mean I was 17 and stopped there and He came and preached peace to you who were far off in peace to those who were near All right

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So the ones that are far off would be Gentiles and the ones that are near would be the Jews And so right here we see that there is a division

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So so in the New Testament, we spoke about this last week a little bit I was trying to make my case that the

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New Testament, you know, very rarely addresses the Gentiles and the Jews as one people

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But but but we're told here that the dividing wall of hostility has been broken down and he is

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Making the two one in Christ in in Christ We are the church whether you're

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Jew or Gentile in Christ. You are the church But all throughout the scriptures we see it in 1st

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John in 1st John the Jews were not welcoming to their Gentile brothers. They were hating them

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This is one of the the sins that he is speaking about telling them that you know that you're walking in darkness

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You know when it talks about hating your brother, it's speaking of the Jewish Christian not receiving the

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Gentile Christian Galatians the the Jews were trying to get the supposed

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Jewish Christians were trying to get the the the Gentiles to circumcise himself that they needed to become a

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Jew in order to become a Christian and so they were not welcoming And so the

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Jews were removed at this time during the reign of Claudius from Rome Claudius dies the

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Jews returned to Rome and trying to You know be established in the church and it's a mixed church

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Jews and Gentiles Paul is writing this letter trying to You know

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Unscramble the eggs, right? like there's all you know, he's trying to Explain that the dividing wall of hostility is down no longer she would be hating each other and so in chapter 1 he mentions that the the

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Gospels for both the Jews and the Gentiles it says to the Jew first and also to the

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Gentiles and Austin read and we might want to read through this again Austin Okay, verse 18 through 32 of chapter 1 if you want to read that Yeah, absolutely and then where do you want me to you may just stop there before we roll into chapter 2 yeah, so Read all the way to 32 and then

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I'll read the first verse of 21 and then we'll talk about that for a second Okay For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and all unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness

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Suppress the truth for what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them

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For his invisible attributes namely his eternal power and divine nature Have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and the things that have been made

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So they are without excuse for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him

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But they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened Claiming to be wise they became fools and exchanged the glory of immortal

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God for images resembling mortal men and birds and animals and creeping things

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Therefore God gave them up in their lusts and the lusts of their hearts to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies amongst themselves because they exchange the truth about God for a lie and Worshipped and served the creature rather than the

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Creator who is blessed forever. Amen For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature and the men likewise gave up their gave up natural relations with women and were

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Consumed with passions for one another men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error

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And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God God gave them up to a devised mind to do what ought not to be done

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They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness evil contentiousness Malice they are full of envy.

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I'm sorry. They are full of envy murder strife Deceit maliciousness their gossips slanderers haters of God insolent haughty boastful inventors of evil disobedient to parents foolish faithless heartless ruthless

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Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die

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They not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. All right, and then chapter 2 verse 1 therefore you

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Have no excuse so right here that therefore you have no excuse.

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He is speaking to the Jew. Oh man Every one of you who judges for in passing judgment on one another you condemn yourself because you the judge

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Practice the very same thing all right, so when you come up here to verse 23 of chapter 1 and says

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They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man's birds animals and creeping things

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I Want to read to you Psalm 105 verse 20

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Psalm 105 Verse 20

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Hold on. Maybe I got that wrong Yeah, sorry 106, please.

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Forgive me 106 verse 20 this is Let's go back to 18 fire also broke out in their camp the flame of burn that the flame burned up the wicked and they made a calf and herb and worshipped a

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Metal image they exchanged the glory of God for an image of an ox that eats grass

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All right, the context here is saying it has it speaking to the

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Gentiles, right but the

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The verses that we can point back to it points to the Jew now

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I Haven't been successful in finding a place where you have men and men and women and women

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When it comes to the Jew But right here it says and they exchanged the glory for the the glory of the immortal

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God For images resembling mortal man birds animals and creepy things.

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Therefore God gave them up to the lust of their Hearts and the impurity to dishonor their bodies among themselves

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Because they did that God did this But when you look at the cross references, it's always going back to what the

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Jew did. That's why Peter tells them Therefore you have no excuse.

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Oh, man for every one of you who judge for impassioned judgment on another you condemn yourself because You the judge practiced the very same thing so everything that he's condemning the the

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Gentile for The Jew is already done The Jew has already done this

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The main emphasis that Paul is making again Right here is to show that every one of us

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Jew and Gentile are Sinners when you walk through the book of Galatians, there seems to be a separation there are those that are under the law and then those that are not under the law and those that are not under the law within sinners and those that were under the law would have been the people of God and then

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Galatians Paul is Ripping the rug out from those that are under the law

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And he is trying to bring them on level playing field level ground with the

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Gentile We are the same One is not better than the other

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Right Romans 2 verse 11 for God shows no partiality Right, right

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And so and so right here the very beginning That's what's taking place and as we read we're gonna see that that's the argument that's being made

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Do you have any comments about that? No, I 100 % agree. I mean it

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Paul Paul clears it up as we continue to read. I mean he continues to answer it and goes through some hypotheticals

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So as we go on it just continues to unroll that he's talking to the Jew If you would could you read verses 1 through 11 in context

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Absolutely. Therefore you have no excuse. Oh, man, every one of you Every one of you who judges for in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself because you the judge practice the very same things

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We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things Do you suppose oh man you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself

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That you will escape the judgment of God Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience?

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Not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance because of your because of your hard and impotent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of Wrath when

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God's righteous judgment will be revealed He will render to each one according to his works to those who by patience and well -being seek for glory and honor and immorality

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He will give eternal life and I'm sorry and immortality. He will give eternal life

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But for those who are self -seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness There will be wrath and fury

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There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil the

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Jew first and also the Greek But glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good the

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Jew first and also the Greek For God shows no partiality

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Yeah, thank you, I think it's important to point out that that in these verses so beginning in verse six

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It can sound like you know that they're doing something to earn something right, so You know, he's already established

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That everyone has broken the law and because of that we are all condemned and later on the argument can be made clearer

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About that and also how we came up we cannot attain Salvation By by works of the law,

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I'm not gonna get into that I don't want to look into something that we're going to discover and You know in a future podcast as we continue to read but I do want to look back at some things so So right now he is established

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Gentiles are sinners Jews are sinners. We've broken God's law

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God is righteous and Condemning us

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But it's his kindness that leads us to repentance And so right here in verse 6 where it says he will render to each one according to his works this works here cannot so So in one sense it can be speaking about law and then in another sense it cannot be speaking about wall so when it says according to his works to those

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Who by patient and well -doing Seek for glory and honor and immortality.

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He will give eternal life. All right, so so in him seeking for glory and honor and immortality it cannot be through Keeping the law

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We've already broke it James's James is clear on this if you've broken one you've broken them all

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Okay, so you have not murdered but you've committed adultery you've broken them all okay, you have not lied

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I mean you have not stolen but you've lied you've broken them all you cannot unbreak the law once you've broke it

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You are condemned as a sinner absolutely, and so So what is he talking about here?

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Well, if you remember the last time we spoke What is the the book ends of Romans the righteousness of Faith, I mean the the obedience of faith.

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So verse 5 Says through whom verse 5 of chapter 1 through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith

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For the sake of his name among the Gentiles and then in the last chapter of this book

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The concern in the doxology Verse 26 but now has been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations according to the command of the

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Eternal God to bring about the obedience of faith Amen so In verse 6 and 7 where it talks about patience and well -doing seeking for glory and honor

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It's not talking about someone that's living by the law But what is it talking about look at verse 17 for faith?

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I mean for in it speaking of the gospel I've spoken of in verse 16 The righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith as it is written.

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The righteous shall live by faith This is talking about people who are living by faith in Jesus Christ they believe in the promise and In Patience and well -doing seeking for glory and honor and immortality how?

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by living in faith He the person that's living in faith will

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He will give eternal life, but those who are self -seeking and do not obey the truth

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But only unrighteousness he will There will be wrath and fury so there might be an argument there that this could be talking about those that have broken the law but again, like if I was to Push it.

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I think I could show that this is just someone who has denied the faith the Christian faith

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But I don't have time really to go through that And still try to get done with chapter 2 tonight

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Yeah, no and just to add to what you were saying there real quick it with in verse 7 by patience if we if we go to Luke 8 15

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It says this is where Jesus is explaining the parable of good soil

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But as for that in the good soil They are those who hearing the word hold it fast in an honest and good heart and bear fruit with patience so it

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You know kind of flushes us out there for us What is patience? What is what does that mean?

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I love that part though. That's uh, that's me, man It's I am NOT perfect by any means

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But the Lord is faithful and he continues to convict and grow me. So I'm here for the ride.

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That's it obedience of faith I have to trust in him. And so I I Really resonate with that.

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I think that By patience, that's my favorite part so far Yeah, yeah meditating that on that a lot

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Yeah, so Paul says in Galatians chapter chapter 2 verse 20

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He says that I have been crucified with Christ It's no longer I who live but it's

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Christ who lives in me and the life that I live I live the life that I live in the flesh.

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I live by faith And Jesus I live by faith so The believer the one who has who has been given faith to believe lives in the faith that he's claims that he has so so Hebrews chapter 11 makes it clear that So I've been teaching on this at at church

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You're ready for this one Yeah, so so chapter 11 verse 1 says now faith is the assurance

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So if you want to know if you have assurance of faith or not If you want to know if that you can have assurance in your

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Christian wall Well, do you believe in Jesus Christ? And if you say yes, well, then you can have assurance if you believe in Jesus you can have assurance of faith

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Faith is the assurance. It's the substance of things hope for the evidence of things not seen alright, so So the the life that you live

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Hebrews is about to flush out that The life that you live is the evidence of what you say you believe

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What is seen is Evidence of what is unseen you say well, how can how do you know that?

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verses 2 & 3 for by it speaking of faith the people of old were People of old received their commendation by faith we understand that the universe

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Was created by the Word of God so that what is seen?

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was not So that what is seen was not made out of the things that are visible meaning

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If you can The things that are seen were not made by things that are visible.

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It was made by The thing that is unseen God So creation as you read in Romans 1 we was looking at it.

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It gives Glory to God it says For what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them for his invisible attributes name and his internal power his divine nature has been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and in the things that have been made

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So they are without excuse the things that are made is gives evidence to the things that are unseen buildings give evidence to builders

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When you when you're walking downtown you can see a building, but you cannot see the builder the builder is invisible invisible to you

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You know he could be you know living in a different state he could be dead He could have died a hundred years ago, and that building can still be there but that building is evidence of a builder creation is evidence of a creator you living in faith is

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The evidence of what you profess with your mouth You say you believe?

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With your mouth, but does your life give evidence? This is what James 2 is talking about and so This is exactly what the book of Romans is speaking about here also and the living in faith that we see here is who by patience and Well -doing seek for glory and honor and immortality

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All right, and the late I mean in Hebrews the context for for the evidence of faith would be

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Those that are drawing near With a full assurance with their heart and so it would be

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It'd be Hebrews chapter 10 beginning in verse 24. I believe those that draw near to God with a heart full of assurance those who ho to their confession and those who

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Consider how to stir one another up to love and good works Well, how do they do these things by not neglecting to meet together as is the habit of some?

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Living by faith is gathering with the Saints. Oh Listen, listen

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Living in faith is great gathering together It's it's seeking God through the torn flesh of Jesus drawn near to him in faith

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Holding on to the hope of your confession. I believe I have been born again

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I have received the sign and it's going to church in ministry to Encourage and to love you to encourage one another to love and good works

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Read it. Hallelujah. Holla back. All right, so Boom cracker.

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It's so good. I know it's so good. I mean we need to get apps on here. Where is he at? He's podcast backside,

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I know he's watching a comment a minute ago He's full of one -liners

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I Yeah Yeah, so verse Verse 9 there will be tribulation and distress on every human being who does evil to the

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Jew first and also to the green Glory honor peace to everyone who does good

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First to the Jew first and also to the green now right here again God shows no partiality

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So he's going the gospel is for the Jew and the Greek His judgment is for the

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Jew and the Greek he shows no partiality Like that's what we have come to so far in the book of Hebrews Do you want to continue to read so we have verse 12 through 29

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Yeah, I'll go through this real quick. And if any anywhere you want to stop and talk just stop and we'll pick up there

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Okay For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law and All who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law

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For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified

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For when Gentiles who do not have the law by nature do what the law requires They are also law to themselves, even though they do not have the law you want to flesh that out for us

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Jeff There's a lot of there's so much said right there Really is

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I don't know. So do you have any comment before I get going? I mean Not really a comment.

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I I could I could try and explain this. It's just you're you're sharper So I'd rather you do it, but it's um sharper.

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I'm not a sharper speaker, but I mean I have some knowledge Getting it out

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I Again like he just points out, you know for all who have sinned

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Right here. He says without the law also perish without the law. So this is just Speaking of the of the

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Gentile I mean like but like you can say that this is speaking of a time when there was no law but that's not true because there always was the law the

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The Ten Commandments the ten words, it's the transcendent law so even before God You know before Moses came up to the mountain and God with his finger

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Wrote the ten words on the two tablets Those ten words were already, you know active in the world

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You know people knew that it was wrong to lie Steal and kill and all this other stuff

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They might not thought it was wrong for them to do it, but they knew it was wrong if it was done to them You know, like I kind of tell people all the time, you know

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Hitler is as evil as Hitler was You know, he probably lied stowed and we know he killed quite often and he probably thought nothing of it, right?

01:01:37

but if someone was to Commit these sins to him Then he would recognize that they were wrongdoings and so everyone knows that you know that You know that this transcendent law is there now

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I would argue that where it talks about that it's written in their heart in a second.

01:02:00

We'll read that again But that's not the same thing But right. Yes So So right here, it's just speaking about although that they didn't have the law.

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So like when you read Galatians Those that were under the law were the people of God those that were not under the law were sinners

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And so those that are not on the law, it's just speaking of the Gentile those that are under the law

01:02:25

It's speaking of the G the Jew, right? So when it says for all have sinned without the law

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Will also perish without the law It's speaking of the Gentile and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law speaking of the

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Jew Like it's almost as if he's it's it's flushing off Yeah, yeah, that's what he's doing.

01:02:48

He's explaining it It says for it is not the hearer of the law who is righteous before God But the doer of the law who will be justified now we know that we just you know, we just read it all

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I mean like again if you want to go to you know, skip over a little bit the 320

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I think it's 323 for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God Well first John tells you what it says sin is lawlessness

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It's breaking God's law for all to you angry have sinned have broken God's law so the one it says

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For it is not the hearer of the law who will be righteous before God but the doer of the law who will be justified

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Listen that that's none of us. No one. All right Now I know what the next text is going to say, but listen, that's none of us only one

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Has come and kept the law and that's and in doing so notice he is not under the curse of Adam Jesus did not have a

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And he was not begotten in time by Joseph Right, he has an earthly mother as to his humanity, but as to his divinity his begotten

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From God before all ages. He is the eternal Son of God God of God light of light true God of true

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God And so only Jesus is able to keep the law and we are justified by what he has done

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So right here, it says for when the Gentiles who do not have the law again

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Remember, they're not under the law because they didn't they I mean they're under the law, but they the transcendent law but they wasn't given the law and And that'll be fleshed out more in a couple of chapters ahead and also in verse not in chapter 9

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By nature do what the law requires are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law

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They show right here that the law was written on their hearts while their conscience also bears witness and they're in their conflicting thoughts excuse

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Accused or excuse them. So I would argue here in verse 15 That this is not speaking of an unconverted

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Gentile so So One who is in the church

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Yeah, so this will be somebody that's in the New Covenant Now I might be a Lone Ranger here and you might disagree but hear me out you know,

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I Understand what you've been told I was told it too Right.

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Everyone has the law of God written on their heart. No, they don't

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If you do then you're in the New Covenant I mean Hebrews chapter 8

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Tells you who has the law written on their heart so this is the whole point of the

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New Covenant was to remove the the stone tablets and To write the ten words on our heart

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Let's see The Yeah verse 10 for this is the covenant

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I will make with the house of Israel after those days declares the Lord I Will put my laws into their mind and I will write them on their hearts and I will be their

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God and they shall be my people so this speaking of the New Covenant if You have the law

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The ten words the transcendent ten commandments on in your mind and on your heart

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That means you're a Christian Well, that means you believe in Jesus Christ That's right.

01:06:55

That's New Covenant language feel that conviction.

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Yeah, and so My understanding here again,

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I'm happy to dialogue with anyone You know verse by verse going through the text he is speaking to a a group of Jews who have their faith in Jesus meaning they have the ten words on their heart and he is telling them that these

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Gentiles that you're bickering with you're arguing with you're not receiving They also have the ten words on their heart

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There but they are also Christians They are just like you the divide and wall of hostility has been torn down All right.

01:07:48

I'm gonna pick it back up. I'm gonna pick back up at verse 15 Just because 16 is like halfway in the sentence

01:07:53

All right they they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts while their conscience also bears witness and They're conflicting thoughts a curse or even excuse them on That day when according to my gospel

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God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus To clarify Paul's not saying he has his own gospel.

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He's he's letting them know the gospel that he's been preaching the same story But if you call yourself a

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Jew and rely on the law and boast in God and know his will and approve what is excellent Because you are instructed from the law and if you

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I'm sorry and if you are sure that yourself are a guide to the blind a light to those who are in the darkness an

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Instructor of the foolish a teacher of children Having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth you then who teach others.

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Do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing do you steal you who say that one must not commit adultery?

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Do you commit adultery? You who bore idols? Do you rob temples? You who boast in the law dishonor

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God by breaking the law for as it is written. The name of God is blasphemed Among the

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Gentiles because of you Yeah, I hope that y 'all can see that what I was saying that the text is playing it out

01:09:16

Absolutely, like a lot of times people can't see it until they they hear it explained and then when they hear it

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Or they read it then they're able to To see what's taking place Absolutely, I mean but if you call yourself a

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Jew and rely on the law and boast in God And it's like and then the name of God is blaspheming among the

01:09:39

Gentiles because of you It's I think we still see this played out today in many ways I mean, how many people do you know who won't go to the church because of some zealous nut or Bad this time.

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It's not because of the gin. It's not because of the Jews because of the Gentile Right. Yeah Principles there though.

01:10:00

Yeah, I mean like listen Again I might you know make some people mad with this statement

01:10:06

But you know, I'm I'm fine with it because I grew up in the in the hood. I was a part of a gang

01:10:12

I've been shot at two or three times and drive -bys. I mean, I mean if someone's mad at me like I Hate it, but I mean like I've you know,

01:10:24

I've been through some stuff So I'm not really worried about someone being mad at me, but I'm gonna say something right now.

01:10:30

That's probably gonna you know Make some people mad Yeah, I mean it could be

01:10:36

I mean, I mean I've learned not to take offense to a lot of things I can listen

01:10:42

I have the spiritual gift that I can listen to people that I disagree with and and then not bother me a bit but you know

01:10:50

Jesus I'm learning his Jesus in his earthly ministry You know

01:10:57

He hung out with you know Modern -day pimps and drug addicts pimps and prosts.

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I mean pimps and prostitutes, right? the tax collectors and the prostitutes all right, and That's the furthest thing

01:11:15

That Christian men do today, right? We want to be seen with MacArthur we want to be seen holding hands with the the the big guys in our

01:11:33

Religious world. Yeah, right circles our circles, right? We want to be seen with these guys.

01:11:39

We don't want to be seen With the prostitutes and the drug addicts

01:11:48

Saturated and gentlemen, that's that's terrible Now I'm not saying that we should go hang out do do a bump and you know, watch him turn tricks

01:12:00

No, but we need to bring the gospel to him I mean, you don't know how many times when I get around someone and they know

01:12:06

I'm a pastor or something like that and they And they use the word GD They're immediately

01:12:14

Convicted convicted. Amen to the core like they are convicted. They don't act like they normally do when they're around me

01:12:22

Yes, they know. I'm a Christian. They know I'm a minister All right, but but I don't care like I'm not trying to get away from people like that I'm trying to To to you know witness to these to these people.

01:12:37

I'm on the streets preaching and stuff like that now again There's pictures of me with MacArthur's pictures of me with you know with some with some big guys

01:12:46

But yeah, but but being in that circle is not what I long for All right being with the pimps and prostitutes the drug dealers

01:12:58

That's what I wanted, you know That's where ministry is

01:13:05

The faith come by hearing yeah, and so a

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Lot of these, you know pimps and prostitutes and drug addicts. They don't want nothing to do with the church because You know, we don't want nothing to do with them.

01:13:23

Oh Yeah, they would actually do with the church if we wanted something to do with them Absolutely, like the the locals in my area that you know, they all say the same thing

01:13:34

It's nice that the church shows up once a year, but when you actually look for help They're not willing to help and at the same time

01:13:41

I you know, I I say that with grace because there's there's people who abuse things But there's people out there who actually need the help too and it's but unfortunately the church isn't not all churches, but most churches today aren't willing to Go on an adventure with somebody and find out what their character is

01:13:58

Yeah, well for the most part if you're just going there to feed them, you know a meal you're not doing anything

01:14:04

Anyways, right, right And I and I really strongly argue that these people that like if you're if you're in that ministry the whole idea is to reconcile them bringing them to church

01:14:13

Bringing them to church where they can be baptized and grow. Yeah, I mean this disciple in them and it's teaching them

01:14:22

Again again, I used to be a gangbanger and I was preaching out of jail one time And I and a young black gentleman stood up and he said, how did you get out?

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And I said who said I'm out Exactly Stop hanging out with them.

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They stopped hanging out with me. That's right. That's your when I was preaching lies, man

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They flock to hear it. They do. I mean that church was big son

01:14:51

Let me tell you but when I started preaching Christ, they wanted no part of it Mm -hmm

01:14:58

You know so true man, it's I am unfortunately where I live I'm right next door to a trap house

01:15:04

And so this this trap house was popping when I first got here people in and out at all hours of the night

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And so lo and behold, I just started hanging out out there and preaching the gospel, you know Cuz it just didn't matter daytime nighttime, so I didn't preach during the nighttime

01:15:19

I'd come out during the day when they're all out there and I'd preach I tell you man, there's no traffic here anymore Very rarely does anybody come over now and it's just it's if people don't want to that the light will push the darkness out man period and You're either like we were saying earlier there

01:15:34

There's no in -between you you're either in Christ or you're not and we would argue that it's God who does that calling and and so all

01:15:41

We can do is continue to spread seeds and then wait and see where the tree starts to take root and bear fruit.

01:15:47

It's Impatience, right? It's beautiful, man Right, it's all people it's not just that yeah.

01:15:54

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Sorry for the rabbit show guys, I think it was a good one though Where did where did

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I leave off Jeff 20? No, oh wait. No. Yeah 25.

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Yeah. Sorry about that. All right for circumcision more paragraph Yeah, we're almost done for circumcision indeed is a value if you obey the law

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But if you break the law your circumcision becomes uncircumcision So if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law

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Will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision Then he who physically uncircumcised who that he who is physically uncircumcised

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But keeps the law will condemn you who have the written code in circumcision, but break the law

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For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly nor is circumcision outward and physical but a

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Jew is one inwardly and Circumcision is a matter of the heart by the spirit not by the letter.

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His praise is not for man, but from God All right. So if you want to look at this in the matter of the ten words

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We need to understand from the context that Jew and Gentile has broken this

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Jew and Gentile cannot keep this only Christ has Kept this right now.

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We want to You know open up a new window Here because we are called to keep the law the law the ten words has been summarized in Love God love neighbor love

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God with all of your heart with all of your soul with all of your mind and with all of your strength love your neighbor as your self

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Right, so he's you know, you have these Jews that are not loving their

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Gentile brothers So we again we see this in first John and so maybe the maybe

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I mean, I mean, we're not there right, we don't have a We're not looking into the window to see what's going on I mean, we we have the window of Scripture and so there is room for interpretation and so trying to understand is is he speaking of the letter of the law or as he's speaking of A law that we're supposed to keep and I'll explain how we keep that in a minute

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And if it's the way that I I'm going to go to I would say we were called to keep it

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But even then we fall short because it says so if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law is not his uncircumcision regarded as circumcision meaning those that are under the law and I would say

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That this could be given an analogy because it says for another verse 25 let's read that together for uncircumcised uncircumcised for circumcision

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Indeed is a value if you obey the law. Well, no one can do that only one but if But if you break it your uncircumcision become your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.

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So that means that they become sinners Again first John What is lawless?

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What is sin sin is lawlessness the whole idea of Galatians? It's putting it on that that that same track.

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The Jew is no better than a Gentile even though they think they're under the law the must the

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Messiah has come they hold on to their guardian the Mosaic Covenant and when they need to Let go of the

01:19:43

Mosaic Covenant cling to Christ and the new covenant and so and so this could be speaking in an analogous language and then again it goes on and if an uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, which we know they can't

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Well not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision and then it says and he who is physically uncircumcised

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But keeps the law condemns you And so I Really want to go into well, could it be talking about?

01:20:16

Something else could it be talking about the summation where it where it speaks about love God and love neighbor So if you look at first John first John is such a rich book.

01:20:27

I hope I'm able to teach it here soon first John's phenomenal Yeah, it's a so in chapter 2

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Beginning in verse 3 it says and by this we know that we have come to know him

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So it's not saying that this is how you become a Christian is saying by this is how we know that we have

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Come to know him. Remember it's the obedience of faith Right. It's the life that you live is the evidence of the faith you proclaim

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Whoever says that I whoever says I know him Hold on verse 3.

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I'm sorry. And by this we know that we have come to know him if we keep his commandments whoever says

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I Know him but does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him

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But whoever keeps his word in him truly the love of God is perfected by this

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We know that we are in him. Whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked

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Now Verse a chapter 3 verse 23 tells you his commandments.

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So the commandments are the ten words All right, and in the

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New Testament breaks it down the first tablet Love God with all your heart with all your soul with all your mind and with all your strength

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The second tablet love your neighbor as yourself so verse 23 of chapter 3 says this and This is his commandments, so it's about to give me the answer or what chapter 2 was talking about and this is his commandments

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That we believe in the name of the Son Jesus Christ and love one another boom in Order to love

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God with all of your heart with all of your soul with all of your mind with all of your strength

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What do you got to do? Believe in the name of the Son Jesus Christ Ladies and gentlemen, we fell at this sometimes right,

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I Mean, can we be honest right? We fell at this. I'm sure absolutely All right,

01:22:37

I do All right How do you love God with all your heart with all your soul with all your mind all your strength?

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Believe in the name of the Son Jesus Christ and you love your neighbor as yourself Well, that might seem easy, but it's hard.

01:22:51

I don't know if y 'all got neighbors like I got neighbors my Now I would say my closest neighbors my wife my kids my church family and then from there

01:22:59

I would reiterate it to my actual neighbors right, but this is first speaking about Christian brothers

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Christian fellowship and then so on and so forth, but So so I would say two things we have the

01:23:16

Holy Spirit and With dealing with our neighbors we are to display the fruits of the

01:23:23

Spirit love joy peace, you know so on and so forth But also we're told to forgive

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Forgive and you shall be forgiven. So this isn't this forgiven you shall be forgiven. This is not salvific

01:23:40

This is the what we see here in first John chapter 1 verses 8 9 It If we say that we have no sin, we deceive us.

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Hold on Yeah we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

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So it's it's it's that confession, right? We are to forgive

01:24:07

Why so that we can be forgiven? So that we Can come to God and into our brothers when we have sin and we can be forgiven if it if you're unforgiving to your brother

01:24:22

How can you confess your daily sins and be forgiven like you this?

01:24:28

You can't you're walking in darkness If you if you have something against your brother if you're hating your brother, you're walking in darkness first John tells us

01:24:37

But so I want to read this again and I want to prove to you how this is the answer how so again

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Listen to the words in chapter 2 verses 2 through 6. I Mean chapter 2 verse 3 through 6 and by this we know that we have come to know him by this

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He's going to give the answer that we know that we've come to know him if we keep his commandments whoever says that I know Him but does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him

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But whoever keeps his word in him truly the love of God is perfected and by this we may know that we are in him

01:25:14

Whoever says that he abides listen in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked again go back to chapter 3 verse 23 will read verse 24 as well and This is his commandment that we believe in the name of the

01:25:28

Son Jesus Christ and love our name and love one another Just as he has commanded us whoever keeps his commandments abides in God and God in him and by this we know that he abides in us

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By the Spirit whom he has given us we

01:25:53

Yeah, we abide in Christ how remember

01:25:59

John chapter 15 abiding in Christ well, how do we do that? By believing in the name of the Son and loving our neighbors

01:26:05

How do we love our neighbors by displaying the fruits of the Spirit and forgiving one another? Like it's really that simple ladies and gentlemen.

01:26:16

All right, that's it all right, so In closing, let's go.

01:26:23

I know I know this is an extra long episode But there's just some stuff that we had to get through So last week

01:26:32

I was speaking with with Brayden Brayden brought up a verse from Luke chapter again, so again

01:26:43

Let me reiterate this Brayden has a channel the reformed ex -mormon

01:26:49

He can't he goes on there and he and he talks about eschatology and so he

01:26:56

There's times where he'll go on there and he'll speak about something that we discussed he wants, you know, you know

01:27:03

Blades us out by name or anything, but he'll just kind of clarify what what it is that he is speaking about I don't have another channel outside this channel.

01:27:13

So in order for me to do that, I must do it the way that I do things But I would say go to his channel listen to what he has to say

01:27:23

Brayden's very very intelligent. He's my brother. I just think he's wrong here, right?

01:27:31

And so he pointed out a verse in Luke chapter 21 real quick Yeah, 21 verse 24 24.

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Yeah, so he's speaking so this is basically the The same thing that we see taking place in Matthew 24

01:27:55

So just to give some context Verse 20 speaks about the the desolation.

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So this is when so the Jewish Armies are surrounded by the

01:28:08

Roman army. It doesn't say that but Just give some context verse 20, but when you say

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Jerusalem surrounded by armies is speaking of the Roman army Know that desolation has come near Then those who are in Judea This is the same stuff we're reading in Matthew 24 flee to the mountain and let those who are inside their city depart and Let not those who are out in the country enter in For these are the days of vengeance for the to fulfill what

01:28:46

All that is written Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days but there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against the people so right here in verse 24, they will fall by the edge of the sword and Be led captive among all nations and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the

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Gentiles right here until The time of the Gentile is fulfilled so so he would say bring it

01:29:21

That this is not Preterism right here. So he would say that this is where his idealism comes in.

01:29:29

I believe I'm saying that right So he would see so basically there that it was fulfilled

01:29:35

But it's this is still being fulfilled until the times of the

01:29:41

Gentiles Have been completed and my argument was well, it has been completed and He was trying to give me pushback saying how and I went to Revelation Chapter 11.

01:29:56

So as you know, I believe in an early date for Revelation in the book of Revelation chapter 11

01:30:02

The then standing temple was still standing Well He is told to measure the temple we see in chapter 11 right here verse 1

01:30:14

Then I was then I who is John Was given a measure rod like a staff and was told to rise and measure the temple of God He was not told to measure in an invisible temple that you know, he was not told to measure a temple in heaven

01:30:29

He was not told to measure a future temple That would be here

01:30:36

He was told to measure. That's right the temple which would have been the the Harrods temple

01:30:42

The temple of God and the altar and those who worship there right here

01:30:48

It says but do not measure the court outside of the temple Leave that out for it has been given over to the nations

01:30:57

All right. This is the same word as Gentile oikos So so you can actually say it has been given over to the

01:31:07

Gentiles and they will trample the holy city For 42 months.

01:31:13

So this would have been the period of time from 66 ad To mid 70 ad which is three and a half years

01:31:23

All right. So this would have been this whole you know War that's breaking out in the

01:31:30

Jewish war and and you have the the Gentile the Roman Army coming in and they're fighting with Zealots and and all this other stuff

01:31:40

So so that so my argument is is that's what it's speaking of and so and I asked him to give me grace concerning Romans chapter 11

01:31:51

Now, I don't want to get too deep into Romans 11 because we're gonna be walking through it

01:31:57

And and then and at that point I will reiterate some of the stuff that I'll say here now

01:32:03

But I just want to look at like what I just real quick. It talks about a remnant like like in verse 2 it says well verse 1 says and I asked then

01:32:17

I I Asked then has God rejected his people who are his people the

01:32:22

Jews By no means for I myself and that is our life a descendant of Abraham and the member of the tribe of Benjamin Right here.

01:32:30

God has not rejected his people whom he fore knew

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Right now if you go to Romans chapter 8 Verse 28 and so we need a button

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Need the airport button me me me me. Yes. Yes. So right here verse 28 of Romans 8

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And we know that for those whom God We know that for those who love God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose for those

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He foreknew. He also breed predestined to be conformed to the image of his son

01:33:08

So he's speaking of those he foreknew those that he foreknew are not all

01:33:13

Israel like every single Israelite if it was every single Israelite would be saved

01:33:19

Every single Israel if God foreknew every Israelite and every

01:33:25

Israelite would be saved those whom he foreknew He predestined to be conformed to the image of his son

01:33:31

So God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew those that are of his people whom he foreknew

01:33:38

That means that those he predestined to be conformed to the image of his son And that's it.

01:33:43

All right, so I just want to point that out real quick And so it's not he's not talking about saving every single person in like like Like right there as we speak not every

01:33:55

Israelite's going to be saved And and there's like if I showed you my bible, there's a lot in here

01:34:01

I marked up that I really want to say But if I do i'm going to ruin it for whenever me and him walks through it

01:34:09

Yeah, which we all want to watch that. Yeah. Yeah, but I also want to uh, if you just go to verse 20

01:34:16

Uh, well, let's go to verse 19 Then you will say branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in That is true verse 20

01:34:27

They were broken off because of unbelief All right, and now I have here verse 2 and 8 marked so verse 2

01:34:38

Those whom he foreknew And then verse 8 where it says as it is written

01:34:44

God gave them a spirit Of stupor eyes that would not see ears that would not hear down to this very day

01:34:51

Pointing to isaiah chapter 9 when this prophecy was given God told isaiah to go and deafen the ears blind their eyes and harden their hearts

01:35:02

Jesus iterates it in matthew 13 15 that he's speaking to a people with deaf ears blind blind eyes and a hardened heart

01:35:10

Right and so right here it says That they were broken off because of unbelief

01:35:17

But you stand fast in faith So the day that were broken off are the are the not are not the ones that were for new

01:35:25

They were the ones that were given deaf ears blind eyes and a hardened heart

01:35:32

All right. So now we'll just kind of Again, no, we're going to go back through this verse by verse break it down verse 25

01:35:39

So this kind of enters into our conversation where I asked for grace It says least you be wise 25 in your own eyes

01:35:48

I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery brothers a partial hardening

01:35:55

Has come upon israel until the fullness of the gentiles have come. So this partial hardening would be those who had blind eyes deaf ears

01:36:06

And a hardened heart that that partial hardening has come Until the fullness of the gentiles has come in Now listen right here verse 26

01:36:17

In this way all israel will be saved All right

01:36:24

Go back to verse 2. I mean verse yeah verse 2 god has not rejected his people whom he foreknew

01:36:31

So all israel that's going to be saved Are all the ones that he foreknew

01:36:37

New in this way all israel will be saved as it is written right here

01:36:45

How are they going to be saved This is it tells you right here. The deliverer will come from zion and he will banish the ungodliness of jacob

01:36:57

And this will be my covenant with him when he takes away their sins

01:37:04

So how is all israel going to be saved? Through the death burial life death burial resurrection of jesus christ who are the all israel that's going to be saved those whom he foreknew

01:37:20

I mean, I mean, it's really simple. Well, well because of the times of the gentiles is over with Jews right now as we speak are coming to christ

01:37:36

Through the death burial resurrection of jesus christ you say well, there's unbelievers

01:37:42

Well, there's unbelievers and gentiles too But but the gentiles like it's been given to us, but there's still unbelievers

01:37:49

It's only those whom he foreknew where it comes to the gentiles or to the jews Only those whom are foreknew

01:37:58

All of those who are foreknew will be conformed to the image of the son The times of the gentiles have ended

01:38:07

I mean, it's it's clear. It says a partial hardening has come upon them until the fullness of time

01:38:15

I mean, uh a partial hardness has come upon israel until the fullness of the gentiles has come in Again go back to to luke which is speaking of of It's it

01:38:32

And they will fall by the edge of the sword So this is speaking about the war that's taken place during 66 ad in 70 ad

01:38:41

They will fall by the edge of the store be led captive among all the nations in jerusalem Will be trampled underfoot by the gentiles until the time of the gentiles is fulfilled.

01:38:50

Well, when is it over with? It answers it in chapter 11

01:38:55

Uh, it says and I was given a measuring rod like a staff

01:39:05

I was told to go and rise and measure the temple of god and the altar and those who worship there

01:39:11

But don't measure the outer courts of the temple Believe that for it has been given over to the nations the oikos to the gentiles

01:39:19

And they will trample the holy city for 42 months when 70 ad comes

01:39:29

The times of the gentiles is over with The time of the gentiles was the time

01:39:35

When the gentiles are in jerusalem during the war Once the war is over with the times of the gentiles over with Anyone who believes in jesus christ

01:39:49

Can be saved Like that's just what it's speaking about And so to take it somewhere else like I don't know where you get it at Now most people build theology

01:40:02

Off of these verses and and saying that we're still in the time of the gentiles. Well, I was only for 42 months

01:40:08

Like he just doesn't make any sense to me. It does not compute with my mind And of course me and brayden we're gonna you know

01:40:16

Brayden, if you're watching this, I love you brother and I cannot wait to argue this with you You know,

01:40:23

I came I want to watch it. I'm ready to watch it. Let's go But I had to get it out there to where I have something that I can go back and listen to and and study more

01:40:33

I just wanted to give him an answer that I do believe that romans 11 Time of the gentiles is already fulfilled that there's only one time of the gentiles and it's speaking of the 42 months when the jerusalem was being ransacked by The people of the prince his own people the jews

01:40:52

Who were at war with the roman army? Hmm and with that said

01:41:00

I don't have anything else to say That's it, all right, well thank you all for watching those you watched and Uh, maybe i'll go back and re -watch this and try and make like a timeline that I can post in there because this is a biggin

01:41:14

Yeah Yeah, well as always man, I appreciate you coming on And um, i'm pretty sure pleasure brother.

01:41:22

Thank you Yeah, yeah, I stay on after I end the broadcast for those who have stuck with us this long y 'all know that I love you and and and listen

01:41:33

This goes out to any one of y 'all, you know, if y 'all You know have any disagreement and you want to come on and talk

01:41:41

You know that i'm approachable Message me We'll have you on we'll talk it out in love picking on one another right?

01:41:50

That's how we You know, it's kind of like we're we're kind of like the christian view, right? Like we just get on here and argue and love each other at the same time