The Trinity Part 2

All right, let's get started and I will open with a quick word of prayer. Let's pray Lord keep us steadfast in your word and curb those who bite a seed or sword would rest the kingdom from your son and bring to Knot all that you have done.

We ask in Jesus name. Amen. We are back in Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 and last week. We talked about the first sentence of the Bible. There's something lost in Translation and the thing that gets lost in translation is is that there is this unique sentence that challenges us and reveals that there's something different going on regarding God and we talked about how this hinted at the doctrine of the Trinity and The the sentence again in Hebrew better sheet better Elohim eth ha shemaim Va eth ha eretz which means in the beginning was God created the heavens and the earth and I've noted here This is the word right there.

That's Elohim and that's plural for gods, but the verb Here bara which means created and this is an important thing is we do not confess and the Bible does not teach that God just Rearranged stuff if you talk to an evolutionist some evolutionists actually believe that the that the universe is eternal.

Okay, and the way they kind of play this out is they'll talk about the Big Bang and they'll say well. What happens is is that there's a there's the eternal cycle where the universe expands? Contracts and then blows up again and that the universe has always been and there are Christians who being influenced by this materialistic worldview will deny that God Created instead, you know God is kind of like well like we are we don't create matter.

All we end up doing is moving stuff around and rearranging it. So the God becomes the rearranger of things but this actually says God created and that verb only applies to God in the Hebrew Old Testament.

He created out of nothing ex nihilo. But the problem is is that that's third person singular and the noun that goes with it is plural. So again, let me if you were to just translate it straight. It says in the beginning Gods he created the heavens and the earth.

It doesn't make any grammatical sense at all. So we're deep we're confronted with this idea that God is unique and we talked about how this begins to already sentence number one. In the Bible begins to hint at the doctrine of the hint of the Trinity.

You kind of are left with just a couple of options here. You're either left with Mormonism or Trinitarianism so like those are your kind of two options, you know Mormonism teaches polytheism and Yet scripture says that there's only one God now last week.

We took a look at Specifically the passages that talk about Jesus being God and before we move forward I wanted to give you a couple of more passages to talk about the deity of Christ and then also Specifically, I want you guys to be able to answer the question.

How do you know the Holy Spirit is God? Is there is is there a biblical passage that explicitly states that God the Holy Spirit is God? The reason I asked the questions because if you talk to somebody like a Jehovah's Witness a Jehovah's Witness will say oh the Holy Spirit is like electricity.

The Holy Spirit is an impersonal force. Okay, you don't pray to the Holy Spirit, you know that this is the way they talk. Okay, but can you guys what you know start thinking offhand? Can you think of a single passage that says that God is that the Holy Spirit is God?

Think about it. We'll come back to it. So what we're gonna do I want to give you a couple more passages and One passage in particular and talking about the deity of Christ as we look at the doctrine of the Trinity.

We'll fill it out and then we'll move on to this some other things. John chapter 20 an explicit statement regarding the deity of Christ if you remember in the gospel of John. We have a post-resurrection appearance of Christ and in the post-resurrection appearance effect.

Let me I'm gonna have to switch translations here. So I pull up my Greek here.

That.

Thomas missed one. Remember on the day that Jesus rose from the grave Jesus appears to the The disciples up in the upper room and Thomas missed the meeting. Right, and remember we call him doubting Thomas.

And the reason why we call him doubting Thomas is because he refused to actually believe what was going on. So we're in John chapter 20. I'll start at verse 19 and Here's what says on the evening of that first day of the week when the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of The Jews J. Jesus came and stood among them and said peace be with you.

After he said this he showed them his hands and side and the disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord and Jesus said peace be with you as the father has sent me I am sending you and with that he breathed on them and said receive the Holy Spirit if you forgive anyone his sins.

They this is where it's fun. The Greek is they will have been forgiven anyone. If you do not forgive them, they will not have been forgiven. It's an the the NIV is a little bit weird here because the the tense in the verbs doesn't quite work in English very well.

So there's the office of the keys, but here we get to verse 24 now Thomas called Dynamos. One of the twelve was not with the disciples when Jesus came. So the other disciples told him we have seen the Lord.

But he said unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were and put my hand into his side. I Will not believe. In other words, he's from Missouri. The show me state right, isn't that how that works?

All right, so Hang on a second here. I'll pull up my Greek New Testament. So I will not believe it. A week later His disciples were in the house again and Thomas was with them though. The doors were locked.

Jesus came and stood among them and said peace be with you. Then he said to Thomas put your finger here see my hands reach out your hand put it into my side stop doubting and believe. Thomas's response.

Thomas said to him my Lord and my.

God now.

What's funny is this if you talk to a Jehovah's Witness and you point this passage out. They can't bring themselves to believe that Thomas is actually saying that Jesus is his Lord and his God.

And.

So what they're based that what they are accusing Thomas of doing here is basically doing an OMG OMG, you know right. In other words blaspheming. But that's not what he did at all. And how do we know this?

Well, Jesus said to him because you have seen me you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed. Question is believed. What?

Uh-huh.

So yeah, let me point this out to you in the Greek. I'll highlight it. I've highlighted it right here. The Greek says Ha kurio smoo. Kai. Ha. They are smoo My Lord and my God and it has the definite articles in the Greek in other words Strictly translated the Lord of me and the God of me is what he said.

He's confessing Jesus as his Lord and his God and Jesus then says to him because you have seen me you have believed believed what that he is. Jesus is Lord and God.

Right.

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed so there's a blessing here. How many of you have actually had coffee with Jesus at Starbucks? No, no one me either. Just saying. But so we haven't actually seen Jesus yet.

We all believe that he is Lord and God right. And Jesus here says that we're blessed. So this is another clear passage that tells us that Jesus is God and Thomas affirms Christ as Lord and God. Jesus says he's blessed because he believes this and pronounces us blessed for believing the same.

Let me give you.

Yes.

That that closely. Yeah that explicitly I would say yes. Okay. Yeah, right. Jesus while before the resurrection before he was crucified and raised from the dead he. The best way I can put it is is that he was he would always say things that implied Implied but he never came out and said it in so many words.

And notice here. Jesus is not the one saying I'm God. Thomas is confessing him and Jesus is affirming him. Does that make sense?

So.

This is super clear. Yeah.

Yeah.

Now Matthew and his gospel kind of does the same thing in the sense that he's always pointing to things that allude to Christ's Deity, but it doesn't come right out and say it now post-resurrection things get a little bit interesting, especially in the epistles.

But I want to point something out to you in the book of Acts this is another passage that I think is worth having kind of Top of the mind on these things as we ponder who Jesus is in Acts chapter 20 I think is where we're at.

Hang on a second here. Tiki is raised from the dead. Ah, yes. Here we are. Verse 13 chapter 20 verse 13 I want to read to you Paul's farewell address to the Ephesian elders. And there's something that Paul says in there that is rather fascinating as it pertains to who Christ is.

Here's what it says John acts 20 verse 13. We went on ahead to the ship and sailed to a sauce where we were going to take Paul aboard. He had made this arrangement because he was going there on foot and when he met us at a sauce We took him aboard and went on to Middling the next day we set sail from there and arrived at kiosk the day after that.

We crossed over to Samos and on the following day arrived at Miletus. Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in the province of Asia for he was in a hurry to reach Jerusalem if possible by the day of Pentecost from Miletus Paul sent to Ephesus for the elders of the church.

When they arrived he said to them now knows who is he talking to the elders in the church? So these would be the these would be the pastors of the churches in Ephesus. He's here's what he says, you know how I live the whole time I was with you from the first day I came into the province of Asia.

I served the Lord with great humility and with tears. Although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews. You know that I had not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you. But have taught you publicly and from house to house.

I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus and now compelled by the Spirit. I'm going to Jerusalem not knowing what will happen to me there.

I only know that in every city the Holy Spirit warns me that prison and hardships are facing me. However, I consider my life worth nothing to me. If only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord has given me the task of testifying to the gospel of God's Grace.

Now, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching. The kingdom will ever see me again. Therefore I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men. For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.

So keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Pause right there for a second. Pastors who has made the pastors what they are. The text is God is God is the one who's made pastors pastors.

The Holy Spirit is the one who calls pastors. So God has made them overseers be shepherds of the Church of God, which he bought with his own blood. There's the verse Verse 28 be shepherds of the Church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

So here's my question for you. When did God bleed when he was on the cross?

Exactly.

He bled when he was on the cross. God is spirit yet. Jesus is God and man, you know all mixed together. You know, it's a Spanish friend of mine likes to say Jesus is Dios con carne. You know God with meat.

Yeah, yeah, all right. Spanish not so good with the Norwegians. I'll keep that. Yeah in California people get they get that you know, it's a. Wow, yeah, yeah deals con carne, yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, the work of the Spirit.

Yeah, I think we've all felt it. Jesus says when he was sends the Spirit the Spirit would convict us the world of sin and unbelief. So anytime you hear God's Word either you read it or it's being preached and you feel like you know.

How did you put it to me a while back? You know, God's got the red dot on your forehead and you're feeling convicted of your sin. That's the work of the Holy Spirit. Yeah, we've all felt the Holy Spirit working.

I always fascinates me that there was a whole movement you know starting with the time of the Enlightenment and it kind of had its Apex in the 20th century and then started to die out this whole idea of modernism.

You know that somehow that all that exists, you know. Now is it all that exists is matter and material things and and the modernists were became radical materialists. Denying the Spirit have y 'all ever seen you know, see.

I'm I don't know if it's gonna work with you guys, but I'm still learning. Okay, my wife likes horror movies. Okay, I'm you know, it's it's it's strange. Okay, you know like like every other year during our anniversary I get to pick a movie and it's fun and then the following year.

It's it's a horror movie, you know. So it's like what are you guys doing for your anniversary? We're gonna go see a movie about demon possession.

I.

Know I'm speaking the truth. Yeah. Yeah, she's really into these movies but have y 'all seen the classic the exorcist. Okay. Okay. And you know what? You know the Reagan is the girl who's possessed and stuff like that but if you remember the story in the exorcist the tension is Between the priest who's actually experienced the demon possession knows that the girl is possessed and he can't perform the exorcism without Permission from the church and his higher-up is one of these guys who's a materialist, you know.

He thinks that the girls just psychologically loony or whatever, but it can't possibly be a demon, right? And so you always have this tension between the people who don't believe in the Supernatural and those who just like know that it exists, right?

And this is kind of the tension same same tension exists in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose. You know, which is supposedly based upon a true story. Okay, and the guy who made that film by the way, he's a Christian filmmaker and he's good friends with a friend of mine.

I don't know him but a friend of mine is really good friends with him and he pert and he's a Christian. He really wanted to put that out there in a way that kind of challenged our thinking on this. You know and kind of challenged this whole idea that that all that exists is the material.

Are you sure really and what's fascinating is in our lifetime? We've seen materialism kind of start to give way to post modern thinking to where it when you turn on the sci-fi channel. They got these people going around with devices trying to talk to ghosts and stuff like that.

You know you catch EVPs or you know, some kind of evidence that the paranormal exists so we kind of swung the other way and more people are open to the idea in our society now of Supernatural and spiritual and things like that.

But the thing is is that General spiritual ism is not Christianity and we got to remember this scripture reveals That there are fallen angels demons who also We can't see who are very active and so personally based upon what scripture says when somebody's out there doing.

You know ghost hunting and you know, and they're trying, you know, it's like knock if you're my grandma. You know that what the guy can't see is that it's not his it's not his grandma. It's a demon going.

You know.

If only you could see what was going on, right so, you know, that's we got to be careful with these things. But anyway, I'm off on a tangent. So let me come back to that though. They'll the Holy Spirit will talk specifically now about the Holy Spirit.

Let me give you one passage that clearly states that the Holy Spirit is God now. This is not a church discipline passage. So I just want to make it clear that I'm not advocating this passage as a model for church discipline.

But if you go to Acts chapter 5, let's read a story here and I'll show you something and when we start to read. You'll understand why I said, I don't think this is a good church discipline passage. Acts chapter 5 verse 1 now a man named Ananias together with his wife Sapphira also sold a piece of property.

With his wife's full knowledge. He kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the Apostles feet. Then Peter said to Ananias Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and You have kept for yourself some of the money that you receive for the land.

Didn't it belong to you before it was sold and after it was sold wasn't the money at your disposal. What made you think of doing such a thing you have not lied to men. But to God and when Ananias heard this he fell down and died.

Again, this is not a good church discipline passage. I'm just want to make this. The authorities might have something to say about this, you know nowadays. But the important verse here is in verse 4 so actually verse 3.

How is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you've lied to the Holy Spirit? Who did you lie to? The Holy Spirit. Okay, and Peter then explains at the end of verse 4 you have not lied to men but to God.

So there you go. There's a passage that explicitly Equates the Holy Spirit with God and we don't need a lot of them. You just need a few now, there's other passages where the work of the Holy Spirit is found in creation.

The attributes of the sovereign God are actually attributed also to the Holy Spirit. So what scripture reveals in the beginnings in the beginning gods? He created the heavens and the earth. That's the Hebrew.

You know, that's the rough literal translation of the Hebrew that there's one God and three persons one God three persons now. This is an important thing. Remember when I was reading in just a few minutes ago from Acts chapter 20, let me go back and Continue with the passage and I want to point something out to you.

Paul says keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you Overseers be shepherds of the Church of God which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock and Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

So be on your guard. Remember that for three years. I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. So in that same passage in Acts chapter 20, there's a warning a warning about Wolves who come in among the sheep twist teaching twisted things.

Now, this is important. Christianity from the beginning has always emphasized and this is apostolic because it's New Testament the importance of teaching sound doctrine and right belief regarding God and Because we have this warning from Paul that savage wolves come in among the flock.

When we look at Christian history over and again, we see huge theological battles that were fought because somebody clever came along and came up with a way of twisting God's Word in a way that it would impact somebody's Salvation and here's what I mean.

The scriptures make it clear if you believe falsely regarding who God is who Jesus is and what the gospel is. You're not a Christian. This is strong. I understand that it's politically incorrect to talk this way today, but I'm not interested in being politically correct.

I'm going to tell you what the scriptures say. So somebody who says I don't believe that that I don't believe in the Trinity. I believe that the one God Manifests himself in three persons now. If that's if you know your church history what I just said should clue you off that I'm talking about a particular heresy.

There are different heresies that have been rejected through the history of the church. One of them is modalism. Modalism teaches that God is only one person one God one person, but God Manifests himself in different ways.

So during the time of the Old Testament God manifested himself as the father then and when Jesus was on earth He manifested himself as the Son and now that this now that you know Jesus has returned to heaven God manifests himself by the Holy Spirit kind of thing.

So it's kind of like God wears different hats. Okay, but it's one God one person. So the problem is is that when Jesus is baptized remember? Jesus is baptized in the River Jordan. The spirit descends like a dove and the voice from heaven says this is my son in whom I am well-pleased.

Well, how does the modalist explain this? Well, it was kind of theatrics if you would, you know give ventriloquism. So while Jesus is, you know being baptized he's going this was my son in whom I am well-placed.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, right now who believes in modalism the you've heard of Bishop TD Jake's. Okay, he's a modalist. He's a modalist now. In fact, if you were to do a search for Chris Roseboro TD Jake's elephant room, too.

You will find that you know in my history I was actually threatened with arrest when I tried to attend elephant room to specifically because I knew what was going to be happening at that event and that was they were going to try to make TD Jake's Look like he's a mainstream Christian and he's not.

The title bishop by the way that was given to TD Jake's that's from a group called the United Pentecostal Church. United Pentecostal Church is a group that formally officially rejects the doctrine of the Trinity.

It's important Jehovah's Witnesses. They teach the Aryan heresy the Aryan heresy denies the eternal sonship of Jesus or that he's the eternal God and Instead what they say is that Jesus is Michael the Archangel the first and greatest creation of God and That that that's who died for us on the cross.

I didn't knew. Yeah, see this is where it gets hard. I Did okay in college when I took the one psychology class that I took so. But to say that I would somehow be able to psychologically tell you why?

Somebody would want to do that. I would say this theologically each of us born dead and trespasses and sins has a Propensity for suppressing the truth the doctrine of the Trinity kind of rails against our reason.

It's one of these things that you know, I can't I don't understand how it works now back in church history. There was a huge fight over the Aryan heresy. What's fascinating is is that for a time the majority of Christian congregations in the Mediterranean were Affirmers of the Aryan heresy and During that time there was a young man Who's well known for not being good-looking but being very tenacious.

His name was Athanasius of Alexandria. He was the sky who basically said no. The scriptures do not teach that Jesus is a created being but that he is God and he was a staunch Defender of the doctrine of the Trinity and at one time he was actually confronted and told Athanasius give it up.

The whole world is against you and his response back is very famous. His response back was he said no Athanasius contra mundo. It's Athanasius against the world. Okay, this is a guy who nearly lost his life on several occasions defending the doctrine of the Trinity and His influence was very well noted at the Council of Nicaea.

The Council of Nicaea and 325 they they hammered out kind of like the final version of what was called the rule of faith now become the Nicene Creed and the big fight between the Aryans and The and the Trinitarians was over one letter one letter in one word the Aryans said that Jesus is of.

Like.

Substance with the father home boy Lucius. The Trinitarian said no Jesus is of the same Substance as the father homo Lucius. The difference one iota. So if you've ever heard the phrase not one iota. And many people trace this historically back to this.

The difference between heresy and true biblical orthodoxy came down to one letter. One iota. If you said that Jesus is of like substance with the father you're an Aryan. If you said he's the of the same substance with the father you're a Trinitarian.

And. The difference was is that eventually the church? recognized had this battle and recognized the Aryan heresy was truly a heresy. And they Anathematized those who believe in held to it. And for the most part that heresy disappeared until the 19th century.

When the Watchtower Bible and tract society kind of resuscitated it. So the more the Jehovah's Witnesses when they come to your door, they hold to the Aryan heresy. And. The reason why this is not Christian is because they reject God as he's revealed himself in Scripture.

And they've come up with a God that is reasonable to their own mind. Now another thing that puts people outside of the Christian faith is a different gospel. And let me show you this so that you don't think that I'm just being ornery.

Galatians chapter 1. Galatians chapter 1. And I'll even bring in another passage to help all of this. Now you familiar with why the book of Galatians was.

Written.

No, okay. The long and the short of it is this is that the Apostle Paul he planted a you know. He was a church planter extraordinaire, and he was responsible for planting churches in the region of Galatia.

But here's the thing is that Paul after he would leave after he planted these churches there was a group of guys who would come in who they were called Judaizers and The Judaizers basically said listen that Apostle Paul.

He didn't tell you everything. He should have told you and in fact. Yeah, he's he failed to mention that you gentlemen here in the congregation there's this little procedure that we're going to need to perform is called circumcision and You're not really a Christian unless you're circumcised and you observe the Mosaic feast days and you put yourself under the Mosaic Covenant and.

Well, this is what these Judaizers did they added works? To salvation by grace. So rather than the gospel you had the Gospel all right mixing miss mixing works and the gospel together and Paul. This is why he wrote the book of Galatians was specifically to address the Galatian heresy.

Which basically boiled down to a different gospel altogether and here's what he says starting at verse 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly Deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all.

Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we are an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel other than the one we preached let him be eternally Condemned now the Greek word there for eternally condemned is anathema and it means damned.

Let him be eternally damned. And Paul by the way when Paul wrote this this is the day before they had typewriters before they had word processors and computers. So if you wanted to make a point you couldn't just bold it or you make it put it in all caps.

Because everything was already written in all caps at this point. So if you wanted to make a point you kind of had to repeat yourself. So watch what he does. So as we have already said so now I say again if anyone is preaching to a gospel other than the one you accepted.

Let him be eternally damned.

Straight up.

So.

Christianity has always understood that Satan works in the church to change doctrine to teach false things. Specifically Satan goes after God who the God we believe in or the gospel we believe in or the Jesus we believe in.

Does that make sense? And so if you believe in a false God a false gospel or a false Jesus You're not considered within orthodoxy. You're considered to be outside of orthodoxy and outside of the faith.

And so what do you do with somebody who believes falsely. You say repent? This is not what scripture says repent change your mind and believe what God has revealed about himself. This is what scripture says.

So Paul then in the book of Galatians goes on and Explains why Mixing the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant don't work and why Christians are not Obligated to be circumcised, and I know all of the you know those Greek believing young men and the churches in Glacier were going.

All right.

Yeah.

Let me show you another passage. 2nd Corinthians chapter 11. 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 and In the same vein Paul right in this section of the book of 2nd Corinthians Paul is writing against another version of the Judaizers and these he calls the super apostles.

Which is not a positive term. These are guys who really they're not only they skilled in false doctrine. But they're good orators and and you know kind of go along. You know they can really hold a crowd because of their rhetoric and stuff like that.

But here's what Paul says verse 1. I hope I will put up. I hope you will put up with a little bit of my foolishness, but you are already doing that. I'm jealous for you with a godly jealousy. And I promised you to one husband to Christ so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.

But I'm afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpents cunning your minds may somehow be led astray. From your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches of Jesus other than the Jesus we preached or if you received a different spirit from the one you received or a Different gospel from the one you accepted you put up with it easily enough.

But I but I do not think I am in the least inferior to those so-called super apostles. I may not be trained a trained speaker. But I do have knowledge and we have made this perfectly clear to you in every way so Paul's warning here about the super apostles is that they're teaching a different Jesus a different gospel and a different spirit and this is Not a good thing and he's chastising the church in Corinth for even listening to these yahoos.

So as Christians then It matters it matters what we believe. Teach and confess as far as who God is who Christ is who the Spirit is and what the gospel is. These are the things that are worth fighting for if you would they're worth.

Having a fight why. Because what's at stake the people who are believing falsely is what's at stake is their soul. Their eternal salvation. Because if you're believing in a false God that false God can't save you.

If you're believing in a false gospel. You have a false good news that false good news isn't giving you any true. Hope because you're believing falsely by the way. If I were to ask you show me from Scripture Concise to the point the clearest definition of what the gospel is.

Where would you go? John 3 16 that's a good place to go. Okay, that's a good passage. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.

That is good news. Yes. But Paul specifically referred in the book of Galatians if somebody preaches a gospel other than the one already preached. The one I preached the one you received where will we go to find the gospel that Paul preached?

There's actually a passage where Paul says let me remind you of the gospel that I preached to you the one you received the one you Believed the one you are standing on. Does this sound familiar to anybody?

Okay, 1st Corinthians chapter 15, this is the gospel in a nutshell passage. Here's what Paul says now brothers I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you. Aha. Right. He says it right there.

Here's the gospel. I preached to you this gospel which you received on which you have taken your stand by this Gospel this good news. You are saved if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain for what I received I passed on to you as a first importance pause right there.

Notice, he says what I received. Paul in the book of Galatians makes it clear that this gospel that he preached He did not receive it from a man. He received it from Jesus Christ himself. For what I received so this gospel Paul received and he says I've passed it on to you as a first importance.

Here it is the gospel in a nutshell. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures that he was buried and raised on the third day according to the scriptures. Does that sound familiar to you guys.

It sounds like the Apostles Creed doesn't it? It's a creed it's a creed it's right there in the scriptures and Biblical scholars recognize that what we have here is probably one of the very very very very very very first Christian creeds and the gospel in a nutshell Christ died for our sins and was raised again on the third day and you go that's it.

Yeah.

For our sins. That's the important part for our sins now years ago not that many years ago there was a heresy that worked its way through evangelicalism called the emergent church and One of the major proponents of the emergent church was a guy by the name of Brian McLaren.