November 12, 2019 Show with Andrew Smith on “Today in Church His-Story: The Arrest of John Bunyan”
November 12, 2019
ANDREW SMITH, pastor of Christ Reformed Community Church, Saint Johns, FL, who will address: “Today in Church His-Story: The ARREST of JOHN BUNYAN”
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I'm so thrilled to have Back on the program a returning guest who has just
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H is.
Dash.
St.
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Today we are going to be addressing the arrest of John Bunyan.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio pastor Andrew Smith.
Thank you Chris, and
the pleasure is all mine as well and if you could as we always do.
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Today.
Commemorating Today in church history the arrest of John Bunyan.
Why don't you explain a little bit of detail for our listeners who are clueless about John Bunyan?
Who this great hero of the faith was.
I can still remember every time I think of John Bunyan.
I can't help but remember.
Years ago when the iron trip and Zion radio program was being broadcast out of WNYG
in West Babylon, Long Island I was interviewing Barry Horner
on John Bunyan and Pilgrim's Progress and Barry Horner happens to be a native born
Australian who lives in the United States now.
In fact I think he's currently living in your great state of Florida if I'm not mistaken, but.
During that interview a friend of mine Pastor Ed Moore of North Shore
Baptist Church of Bayside, Queens who is known for having a very
warped sense of humor and known for being a practical joker he called in during the show and
It started off his question sounding very erudite and serious and he
said but the thing that's really On my mind most of all, please tell us more details about
John Bunyan's blue ox, babe.
Of course, he was making a joke about Paul Bunyan.
But I have a feeling that a lot of people who are unfamiliar with this historic figure might be thinking that we're
talking about the fictional Paul Bunyan the Giant lumberjack, but that is
not who we're talking about.
Tell us about John Bunyan.
Yeah, that's a that's a great place to start.
There is a difference between John Bunyan and
Pawnee.
Eight.
Of course, he died in the year 78.
He was um in the period where there was great
Confusion
with the
government how the state would warn where
that was being amended.
Positive
man that was
born of great wealth.
He was not an educated man.
He was not even like
and that is
where the great preacher.
He had the ability to draw massive crowds to hear him preach
a mighty way.
Uniformity of the church the formality of education of
the
clergy.
He had
not
really
heard sermons a
way that
would call really.
Why
John
Bunyan
did
the
things
that he
did.
Why he
was put in?
Yes, in fact,
although.
Bunyan was only a tinker a mender of pots and pans.
He achieved such Knowledge and biblical
literacy and Just brilliance.
Being a self -taught man of meager means that he even.
He even received the great admiration of one of the most brilliant Christian thinkers
in all of Christendom John Owen who actually invited.
Bunyan to preach in his own
pulpit movement and
John.
But like John Owen you're talking
will.
Theologically certainly I'm
had the mind and and and was able
to.
Church.
He was involved by the Holy Spirit as a believer and point to
make that
that as Christian and All Christians are to be
Theologians
all.
Chris like John Owen on the one hand that
people like John Bunyan.
Society or by the church necessarily.
But he was he was a man who know in his own right and the
Lord used in an amazing way.
Can you tell us something about the religious stock from which?
John Bunyan arose something about the religion of his parents and so on.
Yeah, well he is.
We
don't
know
the
exact date
of
his
birth
when
they got
married.
She wasn't
born again
until
he
was
a man
in
his
mid
-twenties.
Now I always knew that John Bunyan was Baptistic or at least a credo Baptist,
but I know that there there has been some Disagreement amongst
Christians as to whether he maintained a view of Immersion.
What did he ever become an effusionist or was that a rumor?
Excuse me.
Did he ever become a what an effusionist someone who believed in pouring of?
Over the head of a believer rather than immersing them completely in water.
Well, he
would
have
been
secretary
got out
of prison
some
evidence
in
their
practice
and
true
gospel they
teach
you
and
let's
talk
about
and.
Something that may Startle or disturb
Some of our friends who are either fundamentalists who despise Calvinism or other?
Christians who share that Revolution over what we cherish
known as the doctrines of sovereign grace or Calvinism a reformed theology.
But even though they may claim these folks Bunyan as a hero and pilgrims progress
is one of their most cherished.
Books.
Bunyan did clearly share our belief in the doctrines of sovereign grace.
Did he not?
Yes, absolutely.
You know, he Bunyan is about as pure
as Calvinistic.
He emphasized the
port of God so
he
preached
in a
simple
way not
as simple
as
not
something
think of
American
Christian
and we
will.
Be getting more into his great work Pilgrims progress
in a little bit because it has something very much to do with.
This date that we are commemorating by the way is today the exact date of John Bunyan's arrest.
Yes, well.
Yeah, this touches on what you were just speaking about the fact that the Church of England
Now this of course did not include every single person or theologian or
clergyman In the Church of England because we just mentioned moments ago.
How much?
John Owen admired John Bunyan.
But.
He was obviously looked down upon by many in the Church of England which led to his arrest and if you could explain that.
Yeah, absolutely, you know shortly after
his first marriage he began preaching
England had you know
gotten out of the English civil
word of the year was 1653.
The English Civil War ended in the end
and He was beginning to minister the gospel during a time period
restoration.
King of England back to the throne back to the seat of power
that occurred in the year 1660.
Only he was.
He began preaching in 1558.
So he was arrested in 1660 right at the beginning of the restoration 12
years.
He wasn't released until size
wife.
It's a preach intimacy
that he
was bound and chained.
But the Word of God was not for John Bunyan as well.
And he was able to write and to preach and God used him in a mighty way.
The irony of all of that is the fact that the reason he was
arrested
that after the rest if you did not follow the liturgy of the
Church of England if you did not
Follow
the act
of
uniform.
It
wasn't
that
he's
on
the run.
He
preached
praise
God.
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And we are discussing today.
An event that took place on this very date in the 16th century the arrest of John Bunyan.
What year again was that pastor Andrew?
The year was 1660.
Oh, so it's 17th century.
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And if we could pick up where we left off.
We were talking about how the Church of England at that time as many churches were.
They were very guarded that there be no competition if you will of
Not only churches, but individual evangelists and preachers and teachers.
Who were not?
Ordained by the Church of England who were not subscribing to their specific liturgy.
And they were so opposed to this at that time in the 17th century.
And earlier that they actually would arrest folks on occasion.
Who were considered by them basically to be lone wolves or mavericks?
I'm not saying John Bunyan truly fit that category.
But that's obviously the way the Church of England viewed him and they arrested him.
If you could pick up where we left off because this this is actually his arrest and his imprisonment
is.
A vivid.
Historical Monument if you will.
To Romans 828 as far as I'm concerned because of the wonderful Things that came out of that
arrest, but if you could continue.
Yeah, absolutely when I
Henry the eighth
broke away from when John Bunyan was born.
He was born almost a hundred years After the establishment, but as
we well know I had like a C and the carrying on of an error.
Then he was about theological convictions.
It's not to say he had no theological convictions.
He certainly believed something and he certainly did not agree with the Roman Church on many things.
But the motivation of him breaking with Rome was so that he could divorce his wife and get Remarried and have a
son and be able to have an heir.
What began to happen and began to develop once the Church of England was established
was a period of time that
worked.
II anti -absolutism.
Sort of climate in which people began to become very
Sickly and wanted to do.
But what you started seeing take place in the early 1600s.
Particularly with the reign of Charles as
you began
to see
up, so he did not want
Parliament holding him accountable.
He didn't want anyone holding didn't mean the Pope because he was broke he broke.
Parliament started
to really push in
41 and
That was good
as he appointed
a person because
the man that
he chose of Canterbury.
Previous to that he had been the Bishop of London.
William Lodd was he was very
obviously anti -calvinistic.
He was pro people like Bunyan and and
and the generation before Bunyan Absolutely could not stand William Lodd.
I.
Can see why?
He certainly wasn't and he couldn't have been a 39 articles Anglican because obviously
That is a thoroughly Calvinistic Creed or confession.
Yeah, well, he's working behind the scenes, you know to ensure that Calvinism is stamped out.
That's what he was was motivated by.
He wanted strict uniformity to the book of common prayer.
He the Puritans were upset because they didn't like vestments.
They didn't like The bowing at Holy Communion the bowing at the mention of the name Jesus.
They didn't like the the cross crossing oneself during baptism.
But really they were most concerned.
The Church of England was more Arminian than they were Calvinistic.
That that was really where the boiling point was.
But the best thing that Charles the first did for the Puritans is that he He created such a
divide between himself
11 years.
And so what happened was that the country of England and
Puritanism was to
really develop and blossom and grow because then
was the idea
Domineering
and
dick
people that
began filing
received
the ringleaders of
part two.
Then was
so you
had the English
design right
that to be ran
by
Bishop
and then the
independent
central
issue.
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Well, let's hear more about why I previously
said that this arrest of John Bunyan later revealed itself to be a
Monument to Romans 828 that all things work together for the good for those who love God and are
the cold According to his purpose.
His arrest is why we have in our hands today this tremendous work
known as the Pilgrim's Progress.
But if you could this give us more detail about his arrest and then continue on through the
The exit the coming into being the Pilgrim's Progress.
Yep, I'd be glad to do that Chris as I was saying this war between the
king and Parliament In God's sovereignty was was a wonderful work
of united with Parliament.
We're essentially seeking religious liberty, but they did not want the
government making laws about how they could worship and.
So it was Oliver Cromwell led this this army of Parliament referred to as the new model army.
It quickly gained momentum.
One of the interesting things that occurred.
Cromwell was actually not at not a Presbyterian.
So he was not he did not want England to adopt
the the church form of government known as Presbyterianism.
That the Scottish had adopted Oliver Cromwell with an independent.
John Bunyan was an independent when
they executed him.
They held his head
up turned against them.
I mean, this is you have this
great victory of Parliament the Puritans and the Calvinists over England and Anglicanism and
over the king.
The gasp.
Hurraying the fact the king was dead.
Wow.
And what you had was a dark shadow over England where now people were so sick of war.
You know the Civil War had been going on since 1641.
It was now suddenly
started to see a turning Cromwell and his
army and the independent which
wasn't as controlling as the Dutch
government.
The
dominating
force army king
of the
end for
1558, but if you don't you're gonna be arrested.
There's gonna be walls that are
coming.
That's when
Charles came out of
exile.
And
the
reason he
was pro
-ancient
of
England and
then I
go
back
to
Paul
the
gospel.
Five.
He was
real is how
do they translate
the now?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I also heard that I don't know if this has
changed but that Pilgrim's Progress.
Has also.
Been purchased more than any other book other than the Bible in the history of literature.
Is that is that true?
Who came up with.
I hope that TD Jake's has not exceeded the
sales of?
Pilgrim's Progress because there was a time when he was the the top -selling Christian author which always
gave me great reason for Projectile vomiting but.
He was
a brilliant
man
for being
uneducated he was
able
to write but
he wrote many.
Practical amen.
And perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that he was not formally educated because he certainly did educate himself.
Yes, because he was indeed brilliant.
We have an anonymous listener who asks.
I have heard from both sides of the New Covenant theology and covenant
theology divide.
That John Bunyan was one of their own.
I have so many friends and brethren on both sides of this debate That I
don't know who to believe.
Do you know which side is accurate.
Was John Bunyan more in Favor of what is now known as New Covenant theology
or what's he more of a covenantal?
Calvinist Baptist as those who framed the 1689 London Baptist Confession later
on in history.
Yeah, well, let me offer an analogy that I think might be be helpful to answer this
question.
And I don't know if I'll be able to answer it in a satisfying way or not but
affirmation you had both
quoting Church Father Augustine and You had both Roman
Catholics and Church Fathers and still today we do
and still today we do.
So I don't think that I'm going to be able to answer this question in a way that satisfies everyone who is listening.
But I think that that sometimes you can read Bunyan and he certainly has a very.
The neutrally, you know in
an understanding of the New Testament that would place the New Testament
over the Old Testament Authority, but in terms of how we interpret the Old Testament
He would rather go to the New Testament to understand the Old Testament and go to the Old Testament.
Most commentary on
Galatians.
Now if you read Martin Luther's commentary on Galatians Martin Luther's sounds an awful lot like a New Covenant theologian
or what many New Covenant theologians right bow today and so I think an argument could be made that
that that he that he
Synachronistic to say that he was a New Covenant theologian because that term didn't even you know come up, right?
Very recently right that although the advocates of that theological system
Some of whom are actually sponsoring the show.
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They would claim even though the term Didn't evolve until very recent in history in the
1990s actually that the theological system did exist within Christendom.
In fact, I even remember when They came up with the term New Covenant theology.
I My late wife Julie.
Before we were married as a member of a New Covenant Church.
And I became very close with her pastor who is now also in heaven.
Don blend and he used to take me for a number of years to the John Bunyan conference.
And I remember it was about that time in the 1990s that they came up with the title New Covenant
theology.
In fact, they originally call themselves New Covenant Reformed Baptists and then later.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And some of the Swedish people I know are part of that movement people like, you know John Riesinger and Tom Wells
that are to me personally and
and our men that love the Lord and and are In many ways that they are like John
Bunyan modern -day, you know that they
Explaining the normal orbit of what
Reformed people Typically would define, you know, the Covenant is and those sorts of.
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theologian.
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feel like IE baptism, you know
Credo baptism that many New Covenant.
Yes.
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Let's see here.
We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York.
Who wants to know.
Did the Anglican Church ever formally Express their regrets and
repentance to John Bunyan and asked for his forgiveness.
Due to their harsh treatment of
him.
Well, I mean.
Um.
Man I'm getting a loss of memory at a fairly young age here.
Who was the John Owen.
John Owen, he obviously invited Bunyan to preach at his church after this was after
the imprisonment wasn't it?
Yeah, I'm not sure what the chronology of that is I would
say.
And even
he for Cromwell was very
gracious
toward
even Roman
Catholics.
You didn't see and I think Chris this came up in it and
the different at the Protestants did not treat one another with
the hatred And vileness that there was there
was more grace, you know.
Where you where you had Anglican basically against pure chet and that
sort of thing.
And persecution of Baptists by and persecution of Baptists.
Yeah, but there was.
With the Roman Catholic Church, there was a zero tolerance
and Bunyan's case.
He was actually
free to
he was allowed.
He had filed to even go and and and
it was a legally gathering.
So again history is
completely
even the worst apology or
not from the Church of England I've never heard of onion.
John Bunyan did not die as a martyr.
He died on his going to preach in London and he went out of his way to
Settle a quarrel between a father and wet weather got
it.
I don't
think he apologized.
He would want to make the bread.
Yes,
and
that that
divide still exists.
I have.
Very Calvinistic friends in the ministry in the Anglican Church
who are sometimes low church sometimes high church, but All who are very
opposed to the Romish element in the Anglican Church the Oxford movement.
The.
Tractarians the pussy eights as they have been called and they're equally opposed to
the Roman side as they are to the apostate leftist side and.
So this this division still goes on today.
But I think I think if I'm not mistaken that they'll that.
After his release from prison There were quite a number of Anglican congregations that joined John Owen
in inviting Bunyan to preach for them.
Did they not?
Yeah,
that
invited.
Yes, in fact in the 19th century.
A church.
An Episcopal Church in the United States in New York City.
Was founded by Stephen Ting who is or should I say was he's now in heaven?
He.
Was a really Area diet brilliant low
church Calvinist Episcopalian and I have visited the church that he founded which is currently
pastored by Jacob Smith their rector who is a Calvinist himself
very conservative and he took me on a tour of the of the beautiful
building of st. George's in New York City and That has a very low
church Architecture and Stephen Ting had a
Stained -glass window created in tribute to John Bunyan.
So Oh, wow.
So it's a beautiful stained -glass Depiction of Bunyan.
Let's see here we have Harrison in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania.
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Could you give a summary of this great work?
Yeah, I'd be glad to in short it is is an allegory
an allegory of
to find the state of grace to find peace with God and He's met with many
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As host of iron sharpens iron radio I frequently get requests from listeners for church recommendations.
A church I've been strongly recommending as far back as the 1980s is Grace Covenant Baptist Church in
Flemington, New Jersey pastored by Alan Dunn.
Grace Covenant Baptist Church believes it's God's prerogative to determine how he shall be worshiped and how he
shall be represented in the world.
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God in Spirit and truth.
Grace Covenant Baptist Church endeavors to maintain a God -centered focus.
Reading preaching and hearing the Word of God singing psalms hymns and spiritual songs.
Baptism and communion are the scriptural elements of their corporate worship performed with faith joy
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Discover more about Grace Covenant Baptist Church in Flemington, New Jersey at
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Or call them at 908 -996 -7654.
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Tell Pastor Dunn that you heard about Grace Covenant Baptist Church on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio.
Gary Kimbrough, Pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church in Laurel, Mississippi.
God tells us in James 127 that pure and undefiled religion is a visit to fatherless and widows and their affliction.
In the providence of God three years ago I discovered a poor small church outside Lusaka, Zambia in a township called
Kabanana who are taking care of 24 orphans.
I found them just at the time when they had lost all their funding.
What was I to do?
Could I just say God bless you and walk away?
The situation of the children set heavily upon me.
As I was praying concerning this need it came to me I trust from the Lord to tell the orphans plight to a broader audience.
The entire need for their clothing, food, education, and some medical services is $73 per month per child.
If just 50 of us would give $35 a month we could meet the need.
Bethlehem Baptist Church will pay the fee to get the funds there.
So if you give a dollar, a dollar will get to the orphans.
In this season of hope and giving will you consider giving hope to 24 orphans?
Please send your gift of any amount to Bethlehem Baptist Church 838 Reed Road, Laurel, Mississippi
39443 or donate through our website bbclaurel .com.
Again, the address is Bethlehem Baptist Church 838 Reed Road, Laurel, Mississippi
39443 or bbclaurel .com.
Welcome back.
Welcome back folks.
I just want to give you some exciting news tomorrow.
We have my friend Gary DeMar returning to Iron Sherpa's Iron Radio.
And he's going to be discussing the new edition of his very controversial and fascinating
book Last Day is Madness.
I will be joined by Christopher McDowell a pastor.
One of the pastors at Hope Reform Baptist Church in Corum, Long Island, New York will be a co -host with me.
And Possibly we are not certain yet, but possibly.
Jeff.
Durbin.
Pastor Jeff Durbin of Apologia Church and Apologia Radio may be joining us as well as a co -host since both
of those men have been enormously.
Blessed by.
Gary's book Last Day is Madness.
So make sure you mark your calendars for that and also Keep in mind that when this
show is over my dear friend Joe Jackowitz of firstloveradio .org
His sermons are heard immediately following Iron Sherpa's Iron Radio.
So if you can please remain on the live streaming so that you can hear this very powerful preacher
of the Word of God.
My friend Joe Jackowitz of Christ Bible Church in Dublin, California.
We are now back with our guest today Andrew Smith and Andrew I would like you to for about three
minutes or so Summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today in regard to John
Bunyan perhaps specifically the arrest of John Bunyan and what this means for Christians today.
Well, I
John Bunyan was Not formally educated, but he was self -educated and he was
been to read it and to learn from other men.
He was a very committed student of
vocabulary.
Committed to memory.
And so in that sense, I think he's a wonderful example for all.
He's also an example to those who are ministers or from because
he was someone who not only was able to argue Theological points, you know, he wrote on the issue
of but he also wrote to write things
that could minister to younger people.
He was a preacher and that's what he was known for.
He was known for being able to stand behind a pulpit and open up God's Word and people would listen.
Then he died.
Was because of him that he felt like he needed to perform
and trying earlier.
He left a
father and a son ching a fever and
a cold things.
That is.
Normally think it's our job to do a father and a son.
You know, our job is to write and to preach and to do those things which that is our duty to do.
But it's also our duty to be a pastor and to love the people that are such
a wonderful example for a copy of
Pilgrim.
They call that Chris they call that a good deal.
And he does have multiple versions of Pilgrim's Progress and and There needs to be a caveat here.
I learned from Barry Horner years ago as an expert on John Bunyan and on Pilgrim's Progress
that there are Versions of this work that are actually mutilations of hits that should not be
purchased or read.
There's even a Roman Catholic version of Pilgrim's Progress.
Which obviously militates against the core message of that book which is the grace of
God.
And militates against anything that a man could possibly believe could help him to
merit his way to heaven.
So and also there's all other kinds of modernized versions that have destroyed the central message
of John Bunyan.
So be careful when you're purchasing Pilgrim's Progress either in book form or in video form.
And a very safe place to purchase a good edition of it would be solid -ground
-books .com.
Solid -ground -books .com.
And I want to make sure our listeners have your website for Christ Reformed Community Church
in St. John's, Florida.
It's Christ Reformed cc .com.
Christ Reformed cc .com.
How can our listeners?
Listen to your podcast today in church.
His story h i s dash s t o r y a
different way.
They can visit my personal website www .heartaflame .org
heartaflame .org h e a r t a f l a m e dot o r g.
You can access Both my sermons and my podcast there or if you are fancy and use
Apple iTunes.
You can subscribe by searching for today in church history h i s
dash s t o r y or it won't show up.
And when you search for it.
Great.
Well, it has been a joy as it always is when I interview you Andrew.
I look forward to your return to iron sharpens iron radio and I Have
I'm waiting with bated breath to find out what?
Moment in church history or landmark in church history.
We're going to address in the month of December and I want to Thank everybody
who listened today.
Especially those who took the time to write in questions and don't forget about our interview tomorrow with Gary DeMar
on his new edition.
His updated version of last day's madness.
I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior.
Then you are a sinner.