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Live from Arkansas, it's Friday night! Troubles all melt away, oh -oh -oh -oh -oh

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It's your Calvinist Podcast with Keith Mosky Beers and boat rides, laughs till sunrise

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It's your Calvinist Podcast with Keith Mosky He's not like most

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Calvinists, he's nice Your Calvinist Podcast is filmed before a live studio audience.

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And welcome back to Friday Night Live with Your Calvinist Podcast and I am Keith Mosky and as always,

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I am your Calvinist. Now I know what you're going to say, it looks and sounds different than normal and that is true because I am currently in Bologna, Arkansas where I am preaching a conference at Beryl Baptist Church and I want to say right off that I'm very thankful that I have the opportunity to preach this conference.

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Pastor Wade Lentz, no relation to Carl, Pastor Wade Lentz invited me out back in February.

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We talked about this conference for many months and he's having me out to preach on the sovereignty of God.

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I've done two messages, I have two messages to go and then Sunday night I'm going to be doing a family fun night where I'm going to be doing magic and stand -up comedy.

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So definitely, definitely a different conference because we're ending with a family fun night with comedy but I'm looking forward to that.

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I had fun doing some magic for his boys today at his house and I just really want to say from the bottom of my heart, everybody here has been so gracious in giving me the opportunity to be here and to preach.

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Everybody has been so gracious about the preaching and giving me words of encouragement for which

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I am very, very thankful. And so we're going to do what we do every

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Friday night and that is go through the mail bag. I'm going to be answering questions. I'm also going to be answering questions if you're watching this live and you can go into the comments, you can ask a question and if I have the ability and time,

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I will try to answer it as best as I can. I do want to mention again though, I'm using my webcam on my camera,

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I'm using a different microphone tonight so it maybe doesn't sound or look as good as normal.

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But I want to say I didn't want to miss a Friday night because I so enjoy being with you guys and I'm thankful for those of you who are patient because we are coming to you from the

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Central Standard Time instead of the normal Eastern Time. So we're an hour later than normal for some of you.

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So I'm thankful to see the many of you who are already on and watching and I want to get right to it.

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But before I do, let me just very quickly mention a few things.

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Number one, we all know about the devastation that's going on in the Carolinas right now and in Georgia and other places as a result of Hurricane Helene.

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There's a lot of amazing stories of people helping and being wonderful helps.

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There's also some terrible things happening. Seems like some people are having trouble getting the help that they need.

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But we want to be part of the solution as best as we can. And we actually know someone who is suffering in this storm and he's been on the show before,

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Aaron Brewster. And he is a friend of mine. He was caught in the storm, his home was damaged in the storm.

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And we have a way to donate to him directly.

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And I'm going to put the link in the description for tonight's show. So if you are interested in helping the

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Brewster family with the aid that they need, financial aid that they need following the storm, you're going to have the opportunity to do that by going into the comment section when we're done or the description for this video when we're done.

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And there will be a way to send him some money. And I would encourage you to do that if you have the means.

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I want to also remind you that this show, of course, is a ministry of Sovereign Grace Family Church. So if you're in the Jacksonville area, come see us at Sovereign Grace Family Church.

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Don't forget also that we have shirts and other things on our store. So if you go to KeithFoskey .com,

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you can get a cool shirt. We have Superior Theology shirts. We have the Warning I'm Just Barely Saved shirts, fun shirts like that that are available on our page.

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And if you want to participate in an upcoming mailbag episode, go to KeithFoskey .com and send me a question.

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Also, I always want to be reminded or remind you guys that we do have a partner for this show, someone who does support the show, and that is

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Tiny Bibles. I don't I didn't bring my tiny Bible with me, which I should have. I could have put it in my pocket and brought it with me, but I don't have it with me to show you.

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But if you want the smallest Bible on the market and during the month of October, we're focusing on the tiny

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Gospel of John that they have available. You can go to tinybibles .com, use my name, Keith, and you will get a percentage off at checkout.

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So that takes us through the most important things for tonight. And those are the things we wanted to get through before we get to our questions.

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And I noticed there was a few people who asked a few questions in the comments. And I want to tell you, I'm thankful that you're here.

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And Duane asked a very good question. Duane Green has a great podcast where he talks about the history of the text of the

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Bible. And Duane, if you would throw your web page in the comments so people know how to get to you.

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He talks about the history of the text and all of the things that go into textual variation.

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I've been on a show. We've talked about textual variation. And he asked me about the question of the angel and the stirring of the water.

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And do I believe that that is a part of Scripture? And what he's asking about there is he's asking about a textual variant that I believe is in the

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Gospel of John. And if I remember correctly, and I will say right now,

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I have not studied that particular variant enough to give a solid answer. I would want to go in and look a little bit more.

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The last time I studied it, I think I came to the conclusion that I didn't think that it was part of the original.

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But I don't want to say for certain right now, because, again, it's been it's been a little while since I looked at it.

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And I am going to be preaching through the Gospel of John here when I finish the book of Second Corinthians.

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So I will be revisiting this when I'm going through Second Corinthians. And so if anybody who follows my preaching,

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I'm sure I'll talk about it then. But, Duane, I don't want to give an absolute answer on that one, because at this point,

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I would say I don't have a certain answer for you. So sorry for not giving a definite.

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But I'd be curious your position. Feel free to leave it in the comments. I'm sure people would be interested, because I know you're a man who studies that subject a lot.

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All right. So let's move now to our first question from the email. And I'll jump back and forth between email and the questions in the mail on the on the comments.

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So let's look first at this question. And this this is a very important, not only theological question, but also a textual question, because it deals with how to interpret a specific text of the

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Bible. Galatians 6 .16 says, And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them and upon the

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Israel of God. So the question is, is Galatians 6 .16,

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in Galatians 6 .16, who is the Israel that Paul is referring to?

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And where this question becomes important is the issue of how do we interpret

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Paul's use of Israel in this text? And even though people don't often like to admit it, answering this question will often be influenced one way or another by the the overarching system that we approach the scriptures and use for interpretation.

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Sometimes we would say it's our hermeneutic, but even this is not necessarily hermeneutical, because the hermeneutic of this is it says the

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Israel of God. But then we have to interpret who Paul is referring to when he says the

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Israel of God, Israel to Thayu, Israel of God.

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OK, who is that? And there are basically three answers that are given depending on the perspective that people come from.

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The first answer is that the Israel of God refers only to those who are ethnically associated or seminally associated with Abraham.

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That means they are the physical offspring of Abraham or ethnic

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Jews. That would be the one answer, that the Israel of God only includes ethnic

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Jews. And then there are those on the other side that would say that Paul is referring to all believers because he says in several places that if you believe in the

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Lord Jesus Christ, you are a son of Abraham. He says this in Romans chapter four.

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He references this in Romans nine when he says not all who are born of Israel are of Israel.

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And so there are that's the two divergent perspectives that when

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Paul says the Israel of God, he's either some would say it's specifically referring to ethnic

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Jews only. And the other would say it's referring to all who believe because they are tied to Abraham by faith.

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And somebody said it mentions that Galatians as well. And that is true. And that's where I'm going eventually. And thank you,

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Stormy, for mentioning that. There's a third option, which would say that Paul is speaking about Christian Jews or believing

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Jews. And that sort of, I think, tries to find a middle ground.

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Now, if you want to know where I stand on this passage, I stand that Paul is referring to all believers.

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And again, my reasoning is because the believers are made sons and daughters of Abraham by faith.

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And that is the very argument of the book of Galatians, because Galatians is making the point that we are no longer

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Jew or Greek. We're no longer slave nor free. We're no longer male or female. We're all one in Christ Jesus.

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That's in the book of Galatians. So why would he say that? And then later differentiate some believers from others simply because they have an ethnic tie to Abraham rather than a spiritual tie through faith.

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And again, if you go to passages like Ephesians chapter 2, most of us are familiar with Ephesians 2, 1 through 10, because all of Ephesians 2, 1 through 10 is this beautiful part about us being dead in sin, being made alive in Christ.

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But then you get to verse 11 and following. And it's all about how God has broke down the dividing wall between Jew and Greek, that he's separated.

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Those of us who were called not my people have been made my people. And God has divided or brought together that which was divided.

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And so this is my biggest issue with dispensationalists, because dispensationalists want to continue to maintain the division between the church and Israel.

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And I don't believe that that division needs to be maintained. I believe that the church is, as I've said before,

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I believe ultimately the church is eschatological Israel, that the promises made to Israel are fulfilled through Christ and experienced through those who believe in Christ, which would be the new covenant church.

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And so when I see Paul say the Israel of God, I believe

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Paul is talking about all those who believe in Christ. They are the true Israel of God. Not all who are born of Israel are of Israel, but those who are of faith are the sons and daughters of Abraham.

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That's my position. I would I know that dispensationalists and some others would hold different positions, and that's why

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I tried to give all three positions at the beginning. But I gave you my reasoning and I hope that it makes sense.

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All right. Let's go up a little and see if there's any questions here that I can get to before I jump to the next email question.

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Let's see. All right. Don't see anything right away.

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Remember, I'm trying to do this. You guys are typing faster than I can read. So if I miss your question, just simply put it in again and I will try to get to it if I can.

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Here's one. Hank Smith says, Hey, Keith, should people pray? This is a good question. Should people pray for hedges of protection around them?

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I recently heard it at a service and it threw me off of it. Well, thank you, Hank, one, for being a watcher tonight, a watcher.

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That sounds weird. For participating in the show, watcher is like a strange phrase.

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I apologize if that sounded weird. But thank you, Hank, for participating. There are biblical references to God putting people behind a hedge of protection.

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I don't know them right off the top of my head. Maybe somebody in the comment section could look that up and find.

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But there are some biblical references to God putting a protection around us. And the term hedge of protection does have a biblical warrant.

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I don't think it is necessarily wrong, but it's one of those things where most people who say it don't even know what it means.

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To pray a hedge of protection, a hedge is simply a border or a wall.

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We talk about it like a hedge maze. If you remember, I know this is weird, but if you remember the movie The Shining, there were the hedge maze where the kid ran in and was lost in the maze.

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It was all made with hedges. A hedge is simply a dividing wall. So when somebody prays a hedge of protection, they're just praying that God would put you behind a wall of protection.

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And thank you, Stormy, found it, Job 110. Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has?

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So right there, it's used. I knew it was in the Old Testament. I just couldn't think of the reference. And so the phrase is not wrong.

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I don't think it's a normal use in today's vernacular. So when someone hears it, it might sound kind of odd.

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And I understand it sounding odd, but I don't think that it's necessarily wrong. It might throw you off because it's not normal vernacular, but there's nothing technically wrong with it.

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It does have a biblical precedent. Thank you for asking such a great question.

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And yes, leave it to Keith. Thank you, Chris. Leave it to Keith for using the shining to make a biblical illustration.

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Hey, man, if there is a movie reference, I will make it.

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So there we go. OK. Also, while I got everybody here, those of you who are watching, if you're interested in hearing the messages that I'm doing on the sovereignty of God, I'm not posting those messages on my page.

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They're being hosted on the page for the church that is hosting me.

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And that's Pastor Wade Lentz. And it is Beryl Baptist Church, B -E -R -Y -L

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Baptist Church in Arkansas. And you can go see last night's message. Tonight's message last night was the sovereignty of God over the nations.

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Tonight is the sovereignty of God over our circumstances. And I talked a lot about what's going on in the

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Carolinas. Tomorrow night, I'm going to be giving more of a Bible study on the sovereignty of God in prayer.

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And then the Sunday morning, I'm going to be preaching on the sovereignty of God in salvation.

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And there's Miss Amanda. Hey, Miss Amanda, thank you for for that encouraging word. And it's it's been a blessing to be here with you guys.

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And by the way, I'm actually in the church. They had this really cool apartment here in the church that they use for for guests when they come in from out of town.

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And it's and it's been just the most blessed time of just being here.

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I feel very well taken care of. So I'm very thankful. OK, so moving on to the oh, somebody mentioned

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Napoleon Dynamite. Got to see what that's about. What are you a fan of Napoleon Dynamite? I would be I would be a heretic if I wasn't a fan of.

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Yeah, I get it. Pedro for president. Absolutely. He would do better than anybody. So and Hank, you're welcome for the answer.

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Thank you for for giving that question. OK. All right. So let's move on to the second email question of the night.

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And this email question is similar to other email questions that I have received.

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So I want to try to nail down a little further on what this brother is asking, because normally this question is asked, what do

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I do when I can't find a good church in my area? But this brother asked it this way. And it's more specific.

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He says, what do I do when I can't find a church that is conducive toward my sanctification?

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I thought that was such an interesting way of asking that question. And it's a longer email.

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I'm not going to read his whole email. He talks about the fact that he's been looking for 17 years and he's been unable to find a church.

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And here's here's a couple of thoughts that I've had. And I've said these before. And I want to I want to say, first of all,

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I understand that it can be difficult to find a good church. But I also believe that there are good churches out there that aren't perfect churches be.

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And I know the old adage, you're never going to find a perfect church. And if you do find a perfect church, don't join it because you ruin it because you're a sinner.

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But what I mean by that is I'm going to go further than that. And I'm going to say, if I were in a town and I had a choice of not worshiping at a church and trying to be a lone wolf

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Christian or worshiping in a place that wasn't necessarily, I mean, uses brother's words conducive toward my sanctification.

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I would I would choose the church rather than choose to not go to church.

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And again, I'm not assuming anything about this brother. I'm not saying he's not going to church. But if that is the case, if you're choosing not going to church versus going to a church that you might think is spiritually immature or maybe isn't exactly aligned with you on every issue or maybe is a little bit far afield in some areas, if you're choosing to be alone,

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I think you're putting yourself in a dangerous situation because. One, there's no such thing as lone wolf

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Christianity. We just can't do this by ourselves. We need one another. And if you are.

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If you are a mature Christian and you go to a church where the where the church is less mature than you, you could be the tool that God is using to help grow that church in its maturity.

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But you may also find that when you go to a church that you think is less mature than than you are.

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You may find yourself being humbled at times when you realize that there are some mature believers hidden within that body.

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And like I've said this many times, you know, I am so thankful for some of the older members of my church who may not have all of the theological acumen that that maybe someone who's been to seminary or someone who spent a lot of time really studying the systematics or original languages, they may not have all that theological acumen, but they've loved

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Jesus for 50 years and they've led people to Jesus for 50 years. And they have been in the trenches with people while their kids were dying.

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They've been in the trenches with people while they were facing cancer diagnoses and all of those things like that.

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Um, there's something to be said for spiritual maturity. It doesn't always look the same.

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Sometimes spiritual maturity looks like a person who is just an old man with his

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Bible. And and he's not quoting John Calvin or anything like that. But you know what?

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He goes to bed every night loving Jesus and he gets up every morning loving Jesus.

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And so I think. That sometimes we need to have some humility when we're when we're looking for a church to say, yeah,

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I may know some more than than a lot of these people, and it may not be as conducive to my sanctification.

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But is there something here that I can learn? And is there some way here I can serve?

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And maybe that's what God wants of you. Maybe God wants you to serve rather than be served.

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And maybe his sanctification process for you is you serving others with what you have learned.

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Now, he did ask a few other questions about, you know, what if you can't find a Calvinistic church? And there were there was a lot more in the email that I'm not going to try to answer every single aspect of the question.

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He mentioned pride -waving apostate churches. Obviously, there's going to be some churches you want to avoid.

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Obviously, there's going to be some churches you do not want to even align yourself with in any way.

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And I've said this before, and this is where this is where I'll end this one. A church alive is worth the drive.

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I'll say it again. A church alive is worth the drive. So if if it takes looking outside of your purview, wherever you live, if it takes going a few miles down the road, if it takes going another city over most of the people who come to our church don't live in the neighborhood.

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Most of the people who live at who come to our church drive. I would say the average drive time to our church is between 30 and 45 minutes.

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And some people drive over an hour to get to our church. Now, Jacksonville is big. Jacksonville is the largest landmass city in the

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United States. At least it used to be. It's a big city. So driving an hour doesn't take that isn't that hard in Jacksonville.

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But the reality is people are driving past many other churches to get to our church because they have found something in our church that they need.

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Right. They have found something in there in our church. They have found shepherding and teaching and loving and community and fellowship that they want.

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And there were it's worth the drive. It will be worth the drive for you. And I even heard R .C. Sproul say this one time.

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And again, I said I was going to close on this. So I will. R .C. Sproul one time said sometimes a church is worth moving for.

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You would move for a job. If you were if you had an opportunity to to go and make more money somewhere, you might move your family.

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If there was a if there was a business that was offering you a better job, if there's a church that is going to be best for you, it might be worth might be worth moving for.

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So that that's that's just a few thoughts on that question. If you can't find a church that's conducive for your sanctification, either be the change.

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And I somebody wrote this, be the change you want to see, either be the change you want to see in the church you're in or expand your perimeters because there are churches out there.

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There are good churches out there. And and I pray that the

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Lord would take you where he would have you. All right. Let's see.

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Moving on. I just I was noticing a question here. Or actually, just a comment,

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Jonathan said, bingo. At some point, you have to find a church with the right heart for Christ and work with them and serve them and contend for the faith with them in love.

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And I agree with that, Jonathan. Thank you for for sharing that thought. All right.

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So the next question is is is a multifaceted question in that I think that well, one, the person who sent this email sent like six questions and he even said,

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I know you're not going to be able to answer all these. You know, I'm I'm lucky. I'm a Calvinist. I don't believe in luck.

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Let me back up. I'm fortunate if I can answer one question per email. So I'm going to answer this question that he sent because I think it's very relevant to some things that are happening in the evangelical world, particularly the reform world right now.

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But brother, the one who sent all these questions, I'll put your other questions in a in a separate file.

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And in the future, if I have a mailbag episode where I have a little bit of room to add some in, I'll try to answer some of your other questions.

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But let me get to this question. And this is the question is this. Is a man who is disqualified himself from church office by his sin, and obviously our minds go immediately to the most recent, very famous pastor who has found himself in a situation where this is this is obviously relevant.

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Is a man who's disqualified himself from church office by his sin able to righteously engage in street preaching following repentance?

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Could such a man righteously be installed as a Sunday school teacher?

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OK, let me start out by saying this.

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The entire doctrine of disqualification is is one that I think is difficult to to to wade into.

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And it's one that I haven't really talked about publicly a lot because I am still working out some things in my mind about what what

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I think and believe about the idea of disqualification, because the

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Bible does talk about qualifications for an elder. And what happens if a person meets those qualifications at some point at one point, but then later doesn't meet them?

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Well, the natural thought would be the idea of, well, he is now disqualified. But then that raises the question, was he ever truly qualified?

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And that's where the real difficulty rises. Was it is a man qualified and then disqualified or was he ever truly qualified?

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And so and I'm not saying I have an answer, I'm more raising a question, as I'm saying, this question raises other questions.

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It's a difficult subject. And I'm still working it out. I'm willing to tell you, even within our eldership, we talk about these things.

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We we we we pray these are things we don't have to ever have to deal with disqualifying sins.

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We pray that God would save us from that, protect us from that. Put a hedge of protection. Hey, we talked about that a minute ago, but I had your protection around me.

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Oh, God, keep me from these disqualifying things. But having said all that,

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I do want to now try to address the question, because the question is, well, what happens if a man is found to be with a sin that his church has determined is a disqualifying sin?

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Can he ever righteously then have any ministry? Let me let me answer the first question.

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It says it says if he's disqualified from church office, can he ever righteously engage in street preaching following repentance?

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Well, that that I think that would be the question. There would be answered with the question of.

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What do we what qualifies as street preaching? Are we talking about someone who goes and stands on a corner and proclaims the gospel?

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Are we talking about someone who is simply sharing the gospel as he goes out on the street, handing out tracts and sharing the gospel?

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I don't think anything would keep that man from being able to proclaim the gospel.

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But I do see the the the position of evangelist and a person who is going out with the charge of the church to go out and preach on the street.

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And I do believe that is something the church should endorse. It should call men to do it. It should appoint men to do it.

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It should encourage men to do it. And it should support men to do it. So I believe all those things.

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But would that be a man who has been, quote unquote, disqualified? I think that's a that's a difficult question.

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And my answer is going to be probably very unsatisfying. But my answer is ultimately it would be up to the elders of his church.

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They would have to determine at what level the street, the street preaching ministry would be a ministry of the church.

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And how that ministry is functioning within the church, like, for instance, if they if the function of that church is only elder street preach, then that would be an issue.

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But if that church allowed other men who were not elders to street preach, then that might change the answer.

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And again, I'm not saying this is necessarily subjective, but there is a sense in which it's going to be up to the elders.

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The elders are going to have to decide. I don't think that men should go out street preaching without any tie to a local church.

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This is something that I have had a lot of conversations about in the past, because I think that the danger of lone wolf street preaching, lone wolf evangelism, where there's no tie to a local church, that can lead to a situation where there are men with no oversight and what they're preaching, what they're doing.

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There's no one to call them into account. So if the man who is doing this is under the authority of the local church, under the guidance and leadership of his elders, and the elders have said, go and do this and have endorsed him to this,

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I think they are within the right to do that and would be doing so without any issue.

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But that would be up to the local elders of the church. And the same for a

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Sunday school class. I don't think a Sunday school class has to be taught by an elder. Our Sunday school class at Sovereign Grace is taught by an elder, but we only have one class.

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We have a kids class, which is not taught by an elder. It's actually taught. It's a it's actually my wife leads a very young kids class.

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And they they teach through their teaching group currently through the book Theology, if you've ever seen it,

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T -H -E -O -L -O -G -Y. And it's and it's just basically basic theology for kids.

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And of course, my wife is under my leadership and she's also under the authority of the elders that she's doing what she's doing for the kids.

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But the the the primary Sunday school class at our church is taught by the elders. But if you're in a church that doesn't limit the teaching role to an eldership role and that other men can teach

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Sunday school, then I think it would be within the right of the elders to allow someone who is repented, who's been restored, even though they're not being restored to eldership or pastoral ministry.

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If they have the gift of teaching and they have the knowledge to teach and can teach properly, I think that the elders would be within their right to do that.

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So so I hope that is is helpful. OK. All right. Let's see.

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And Too Legit to Quit says this. We are all called to preach the gospel. And I agree. That's where I was.

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That's kind of where I was getting to is nothing. Once a man has repented of his sin and been restored to the body, there's nothing that would keep him from telling the church or telling people about Christ and preaching the gospel to lost and dying men.

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I don't understand that question, Rudy. It says the disqualified man in question would like to know if he could use an extension cord while street preaching.

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I think that's a joke, but I don't know if I get it. OK, I'm going to move to another question from the comments and then

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I'll go to my next question from the mailbag. All right. So the next question from the comments.

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Let's see. All right. Good question. This is from Kay Roach.

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It says, how do you feel about joining a mission group who does great work and makes a real difference for people post disaster?

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But theologically, you differed them on core issues. Right away.

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And you might want to answer this for me, Kay Roach, in the comments. When you say core issues, do you mean things like they're a heretical group or you just mean that these are very important secondary issues?

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And so, for instance, like I can say I disagree with Presbyterians on some core issues like we disagree on baptism.

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We disagree on the place of the elders and the Presbyterian, things like that. We disagree on some core things, but we don't disagree on the fundamentals.

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And so I would I would I think what you mean is the secondary, important secondary things, because if it's if it's a fundamental, like I will never partner with the

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Jehovah Witnesses for any reason. That that and that may sound like I made a bold statement.

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I have no interest in partnering with the Jehovah Witnesses. But but I would

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I would partner with Pentecostals. I would partner with, you know, ones who

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I believe are genuine Christians. I would partner with them all day, even if we disagree on some very important secondary issues.

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And Stormy said, you know, you know, this is this is funny. Trinity versus Calvinism versus color the carpet.

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Yes, that's great. Trinity would be a primary issue. Calvinism would be a secondary issue. Color the carpet shouldn't even be an issue.

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And Duane is right. Yes, I will partner with you at times on certain things because you and I are brothers in Christ.

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We will probably continue to disagree on certain things, but I still love you. And I think you've got a really cool studio background.

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I always thought that you got it. You got a sharp looking set up there in your your studio. You're you got a good good thing.

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All right. So. Yeah, he said, I'm not oneness. I know you're not oneness and I'm praising the

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Lord for that. OK, so oh, too legit to quit asking a very difficult question, and that is,

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OK, just you Catholics count. All right. This is a this is this is where I'm going to make a very important distinction.

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I have a trouble, real trouble in my heart, partnering with Catholics. I remember a few years ago

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I went to a march for life. And we were marching around the federal courthouse in Jacksonville.

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And my wife and I had never been to one, but we wanted to go. So we we we marched.

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And as we began marching around the federal courthouse. I, I, I noticed.

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Everybody around me was Catholic. It was nuns and priests and me, Baptist preacher.

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And we get around the courthouse, we get back to the steps and the nuns and the priests that go up onto the to the steps and they start praying the rosary and they're inviting people to pray with them.

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My wife and I, we back up and we're like, no, we're not going to pray the rosary. We're not going to do that.

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We're not going to engage in what we consider a form of idolatrous prayer. We're not going to do that.

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So that right there shows I would have difficulty engaging in that kind of participation with a

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Catholic. However, let's say there was a Catholic charity that was raising money to send food to to people in in.

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The Carolinas. It it would not be my first choice, but if that was the only available option,

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I might be willing to do that. So and again, not not because I would be willing to to compromise my faith, but because I do believe that I can partner with them for that purpose in that moment.

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But I would I wouldn't do that with other groups. So that's where that's where a line is a little fuzzy for me.

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And it's as Duane said earlier, it's it's a difficult one. We talk about Catholics and Orthodox. At least

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Catholics and Orthodox hold to Nicene Orthodoxy. They hold to the

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Trinity. They hold a certain vestiges of true Christianity.

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So it's harder. I do believe the Catholic Church in many ways has abandoned the gospel.

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And I believe Catholics can be saved, but it's in spite of what they're taught, not not because of what they're taught. I've said that before.

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So I have a lot of issues with them, but I don't see them in the same category as I see

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Mormons and Jehovah witnesses because of the there because I believe they they once held to they continue to hold to Nicene Orthodoxy in many ways.

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But they I believe that that the true church. Is there was there and has been.

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Has been damaged, and that's why it was in need of reform, and that's why the Reformation happened. But the true church has never been in Jehovah witnesses, the true church has never been in.

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In the Mormon Church, and so and neither has it ever been in Islam or any of the false religions.

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So that's why I see them differently. And I hope that hope that makes sense without sounding like I'm being too much in the way of compromising.

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OK. I want to go back up to a quick question that was asked up here. And that is this, what evangelism method?

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This is Luke asking this question, what evangelism method or system would you recommend for a group of 25 to 40 year olds that want to go downtown and hand out tracts on a

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Friday night? Boy, I am so glad you asked me this, Luke. I don't know where your church is, but man, if you are anywhere near Jacksonville, I would love to help you with this group because our church, we love to do this.

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We love to train people to do this. And I'm not saying we're the best at it. I'm not saying we're great at it.

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But if you want to if you go to my channel, which you're on and you look up about a year ago, you'll find a video of one of my one of my elders.

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I follow him around with a camera and he goes out and he shares the gospel. And he's really, really good at it. And his name is

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Mike Collier. And we have all kinds of methods that we use. And I would say the basic way to start teaching people would to be would be to do a similar to the way of the master.

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I do have a few things that I do different than Ray Comfort. A few lines that he uses that I might not use partially because of Calvinism, partially because of the use of the commandments.

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I do disagree some way in some of the way that he uses the Ten Commandments. I but I do believe in using the law of God.

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I believe that the law of God is is is what shows us our need for a savior. It shows us our sin.

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And so and I do believe this phrase is important. A lot of the proud grace of the humble. We give the law and that shows them their need for a savior.

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And then we show them Christ as the savior. So if you're looking for a basic method to teach them,

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I still think where the master is a good starting point. And if there's anything in your church that would disagree with something that Ray is saying in the way of the master, then just say it when you get there.

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It's a video series so you can buy it. It's not expensive. And like I said, if you were anywhere near Jacksonville, I would say

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I would say we'd set it up and do it at our church and just come and we would we would train, train along with you guys.

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But you're probably not. I have no idea where you are. So but but but I think where the master is a good starting point, their tracks are good.

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We have tracks that are available for people. Also, if you are interested in tracks that we produce, you have to print them yourself.

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But I can send you the information that we have on the track. One of my favorite tracks that we use is it looks like a doctor's appointment card.

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And it literally says you have an appointment. And then where it says date and time, just like a normal appointment card.

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It says Hebrews, I think it's 10. Hebrews, it's the passage where it says it is it is appointed and a man wants to die and then comes judgment.

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And that verse is on the back with an explanation. And we give those cards out by the hundreds.

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We love to give those cards out because it begins a conversation. Everybody has an appointment. And that appointment is the one day you're going to face the

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Lord. And so, yeah, I love that question and would love to to try to help you out.

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But I would point you first again to an already established and good resource, and that's that's

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Ray Comfort. And if you have other questions, send me send me an email at Kiefoski .com and I'll get you some more information about the tracks that we use.

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Let's see. OK, I'm going to I'm going to go to the next question in the mailbag.

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I see we've got some questions coming in. We're we're we're 45 minutes. I'm going to cut this off about an hour, but we got about 15 minutes to go.

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And Dwayne, I'll come back to your question about. Well, let me just go and answer. Dwayne asked a question about the million dollar tracks. What do you think about million dollar tracks?

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Do you think they're bait and switch? I think they're only a bait and switch if you try to make them look like real money.

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I do not like tracks that look like real money. And you go to hand it somebody, they think you're giving them real money and then they open it up and it's a track, especially for a tip.

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Don't ever do that. Don't ever give a waitress a fake hundred dollar bill that's actually a track that's stabbing them.

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That hurts them. Don't use that for tips. Don't use a fake million dollar bill for tips. They're going to look at immediately if they get they think they got a big tip and then they're going to realize they didn't.

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And it's going to hurt the cause of Christ because you are they're going to think that that's just a terrible thing.

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Now, if you want to put it in with a tip, a nice tip, that's one thing. But but again, they see a million dollars.

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They think it's a hundred dollar bill. That's just hurtful. Don't do that. So having said that,

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I still think a million dollar bill can be fun. I use them because as many of you know,

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I'm a magician. One of the things I do when I go out witnessing is I take and do magic tricks for people that gets me into conversations with people.

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And I use million dollar bills as as a fun little gift when people do a magic trick with me, like I'll have them come up.

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I'll have them pick a card. I'll do a card trick or I'll do a trick with some rubber bands or coins or something.

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And I'll keep some million dollar bills in my pocket. And when I'm done, I'll say, hey, I want to give you guys a prize for for listening to me.

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And I give them all a million dollar bill, which is also a track. I don't think that's a bait and switch. That's like, here's here's here's your award for listening to me.

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Thank you for listening to me. So, you know, that's a that's that's my

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I think million dollar bills can be valuable, but I but I don't. They have to be used the right way. OK.

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Let's see. OK. Next question on the the mailback.

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All right. This is a this is very important when it comes to things that are happening right now in our world.

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The question is this. Can the state ever become so tyrannical that a

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Christian could individually and righteously disregard certain laws of the state, even when those laws could be followed without engaging in sin?

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Wow. One to the person who sent the question. Very well asked.

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Very well written. Because you're getting to the heart of it, because all of us would say that there are laws that you are not required to follow because they would cause you to sin.

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Like, for instance, if the law of the land were ever to be that you could only have three children and you had to have an abortion after your third child.

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And if you ever had a fourth child, you could be imprisoned. Well, guess what?

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You you you're not. If you commit an abortion, that's a sin. They cannot command you to sin against God.

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Therefore, you're going to have to stand against that law, even if that means standing against the government.

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So. But you understand that the person who asked this question understands that because he said he said, can the state ever become so tyrannical that a

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Christian could individually and righteously disregard certain laws, even if those laws could be followed without engaging in sin?

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OK. I'm going to say yes, but it's a nuanced yes.

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Because I do think that we can be called upon to sin even if it's not overt sin.

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And here's how I would give you that reason. And I'm going to use a current example, and I'm going to say right away,

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I don't know everything that is happening in North and South Carolina, but I may use it as an example.

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And please don't light me up in the comments because I'm not saying anything for certain. This is all based upon things

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I've seen online and things I've heard online. And I don't know any of this for certain. I'm not there. But from what

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I have heard, there seems to have been some concerted efforts by certain people in authority to keep aid from reaching people in situations where they have need.

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And you then have to make a choice whether you are going to concede that person's authority and listen to them or whether you're going to not bow down to that authority and go beyond them.

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And if you do, you may suffer consequences. Right.

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I think that even though it would not be a sin for me to just say, hey,

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I'm going to obey the authority, I'm going to sit back and not do anything. I think there could be a righteous intent for me to say, you know what, that authority is wrong.

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The person on the other side of that mountain needs my help. And even though that authority is telling me not to go,

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I'm going to go regardless of what that person says.

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But here's what I always say. And this is the this is the part that where I think it's really important. If I choose to violate the law,

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I am at that moment putting myself in a position where I may suffer the consequences.

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The consequences may not come from God. They may come from government. But. Think about all of our forefathers.

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I preached tonight on Jan Hus. I talked about Jan Hus in my sermon, and I said,

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Jan Hus preached what he preached. They tried to stop him. Finally, they put an interdict against Prague.

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He went to the Council of Constance. He defended himself. They called him a heretic. They burned him at the stake.

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They were wrong. They were absolutely wrong. Those are sinful, godless men who burned

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Jan Hus at the stake. Jan Hus should not have been burned.

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They were wrong. But he still he still suffered the punishment, not not because he deserved it, but because that's what happened.

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And so my point to you is you may at some point have to disregard a tyrannical law, but you will you will possibly also have to suffer a consequence.

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So you need to be prepared for that. That's that's my point. If you're going to disregard a tyrannical law, you may suffer a consequence.

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And I like what Nate wrote here. So I'm going to throw it up there. These are the times that try men's souls.

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Thomas Paine, amen. Amen. I. Years ago,

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I watched a movie. And it was about a pastor who was in the former

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Soviet Union. And there was a point at which the government was doing something that was bad.

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I don't remember the movie. I don't remember the story, who it was. So please don't ask me because I don't know.

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I would have to go and research it out. But I remember the scene of the movie. My wife and I were watching.

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The man is standing there with his wife. The the the person in the who is in the town square saying what he's saying and he's on behalf of the government, all these things.

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And the and the the the pastor's wife says to him, she said, someone should stand up to them.

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Someone should go in and say this is not right. And the pastor looked at his wife and he said, if I go and say something, you will not have a husband.

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If I go and say something, you will. I won't. You won't have a husband. They're going to kill me.

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And she looked at him and she said, I would rather not have a husband than have a husband who's a coward, man.

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I remember hearing that line in the movie. And I looked at my wife. She looked at me and we said, what?

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What an amazing thing. That that she would say something so powerful and so true.

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I'd rather not have a husband than have a husband who's a coward. And I was like, oh, that is just like my heart right there.

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And I don't I I don't have every answer to this question about tyranny. But I do know that there are times when we have to stand against it.

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And I do believe that there were righteous men who stood up against the tyranny in the Revolutionary War.

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Somebody mentioned the Black Robe Regiment. Absolutely true. And and sometimes that's called the

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Calvinist revolt, because so many of the men who were preaching against the the the the tyranny of the

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British were Calvinist preachers. And as a Calvinist, I stand in the long line of men who who believed and taught that same thing, you know.

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So ultimately, I do think there are tyrannical laws that we can and appropriately under God's will defy.

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But we will have to deal with the consequences. So I hope that is hope that's encouraging.

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I agree with you to legit. This is a good quote. We are not worthy of our ancestors. Amen. Amen.

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And I like Stormy's quote as well. There are two sides. Romans 13. I always say this when I teach on Romans 13.

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The government we are to obey, but the government also is to obey God. They are God's deacon. The word there, diakonos, they are the minister of God.

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And so we are to call them to account and say, you are not being a good minister of God and you will suffer the consequences.

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Every man who stands in a position of governance will answer to God. Every man and woman who stands in a position of governance will answer to God.

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And we as God's spokesmen, we as his ministers, we are we as we as faithful believers in Christ have the right and responsibility to tell them that.

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And we should. And that leads to my final question of the night.

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And we have five minutes for me to deal with this this last question, because I'm going to try to end in an hour. I am a little tired.

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It's been been a long day. Thankful. Thankful for a good long day. But it has been a long day.

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And thank you guys for hanging with me for this last hour. OK. This this again is another long email.

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I try to condense these down to one or two sentences. But this is the question.

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I am wondering this was this is not my question. This is the I'm reading it from him. I am wondering why believers across our country excuse former

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President Trump's sins. And he goes on to say many things about Trump that he was philanderer, adulterer, things like that.

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But he ends with this line. Shouldn't our focus be on the Great Commission? Shouldn't it be on loving and obeying God and loving our neighbors, not on aligning ourselves with a hateful, arrogant person?

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I think we're making a mockery of ourselves and our faith by supporting Trump. That's this person's email. He wrote it to me.

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It's a long email. And I'm going to say that. What he is saying about Trump in many ways is true.

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There are many bad things that can be said about Trump's personal life. There are many bad things that can be said about Trump's public and private life.

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And there are plenty of sins that can be pointed towards Trump.

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And one of the things I do think we should do as Christians is we should be willing to say that Trump has in no way demonstrated himself to be a believer.

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I don't think Trump is a Christian. I think he has said some things that are the opposite of that. He has said some things about the fact that he has never asked for forgiveness.

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I think, again, I'm not quoting him directly, and I'm sure somebody is going to want to correct me. But basically, there have been things that he has said that indicate that he's he's not a faithful Christian.

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But when we look at both sides of the situation and we look at Trump versus Harris and we look at both platforms, neither platform is perfect, and both platforms have issues that a

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Christian should have issue with the platform of the party. The question becomes, is there any reason to support either one?

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And I'm going to give you an interesting thought from my perspective, which may surprise you.

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There was a there was a time where I would say, well, abortion is a big issue and abortion is a huge issue, and it remains my number one issue.

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And I have been very disappointed in the way abortions being being talked about on the on the side for on the on the

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Republican side. I am thankful that in his previous term, he appointed judges that did strike down Roe v.

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Wade. I'm thankful for that. But I'm I'm very disheartened by the way abortions been discussed recently.

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So I'm not going to make any excuses or apologies for that. But I also have said in the past, and some of you have heard me say this because I've said it on the show before.

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I also have a secondary issue that I think is also important, and that is the issue of the

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Eighth Commandment. Abortion is a Sixth Commandment issue. Sixth Commandment is thou shall not commit murder.

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Abortion is murder. Therefore, it is top tier issue for me. But the other issue that I think is also very important is the

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Eighth Commandment. And the Eighth Commandment is the commandment, thou shalt not steal.

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Thou shall not steal. The entire democratic platform, from my perspective, is based upon or in simplest terms, it is based upon a system of wealth redistribution.

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And it is a system which causes the wealth of individuals to be taken away or for the value of the wealth that people have created through work and savings to be diminished.

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That's what inflation does. Inflation, if a person has saved enough to retire, and then inflation causes what they've saved to be worth less, then that is a form of theft.

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It has destroyed what they have saved. It has destroyed what they have worked for. It has destroyed this person's livelihood.

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And I think that is something worth arguing for. I do think when it comes to the economy, and again, that's an

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Eighth Commandment issue because the economy is an issue that is addressing how money is valued, how money is spent, all of those things.

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I think when you look at the two sides, I think on this issue, the Republicans win.

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And I think Trump is better when it comes to the economy. That's my opinion. I am not an economist, but I have read economists.

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I'm very, very thankful for men like Thomas Sowell, who himself is an economist and has written on the subject and talked about these things and has been very helpful for me.

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So I will say that I'm grateful for men who are smarter than me on this issue because it helps me to understand things that I would not be able to understand.

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But when it comes to why would I vote for Trump at this point, even though he has all of those sinful things that the man said, and he's correct,

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I am not endorsing him morally. I'm not endorsing him for his sinfulness.

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I'm not endorsing him even at this point on his position on abortion. But I do believe when it comes to the Eighth Commandment issue, which is the issue of how my money will become worth more or worth less,

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I think he is the better choice. And that's where I'm at. And you can disagree with me.

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And hopefully we can still be friends. And this person who wrote the email, if you disagree with me, feel free. That is the beauty of being brothers and sisters in Christ.

01:00:46

If you are a brother in Christ, then hopefully you can allow me this disagreement and still call me brother. I do want to say something about slice of bread.

01:00:54

I appreciate you interjecting here. And I want to respond. You said, Votie says retirement is unbiblical.

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And I say, Votie doesn't know everything. I understand the argument that retirement is unbiblical.

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But I also believe that there are things in scripture that talk about as parents age, as people age, it's the responsibility of their children to take care of them in their old age.

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This is one of the very things that Jesus addressed when he was talking about the Pharisees with the

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Korban rule, because parents were in need. And the people would take their money and dedicate it to the temple rather than giving it to their parents who were in need.

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And Jesus said that was wrong. Not honoring their parents was wrong. Well, why would they need help? Because as they age, they cannot work in the same way that they worked in their youth.

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And so there is, even though retirement may not be biblical, the concept that there is going to come a time where a man cannot work the same way he worked.

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My dad is 77 years old. My dad worked 35 years for Anheuser -Busch.

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Yeah, come at me, bro. My dad is an Anheuser -Busch. I'm a Bush baby. My dad made his money working for Anheuser -Busch.

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Thank God that drinking is not a sin. Come at me, bro. You want some? Yeah, I'll give it to you. Drinking is not a sin.

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Getting drunk is a sin. Yeah, come at me. But anyway, the reality is this whole thing that my dad at 76 or 77 shouldn't be retired, that doesn't make sense to me.

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My dad needs to be cared for. He doesn't need to continue to work. And by God's grace, he has been allowed through his hard work, his 36 years of hard work, he has been allowed to have amassed enough not only to care for himself, but to leave an inheritance for his children.

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And the Bible says to leave an inheritance for your children is actually a good thing. So I think that there can be an argument about people who retire, and there can be some arguments made.

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But when it comes to this, I love Votie, but there are times where I don't agree with him. And I don't know what all he said about this issue.

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But quite frankly, it's not going to keep me from saying that my dad's in sin somehow because he retired.

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So again, didn't mean to get all emotional about that. But I think about sometimes I'll hear people say, well, this person said this or this person said that.

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You know what? That's why God gives us the grace to be able to disagree. All right, so hopefully

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I didn't get too animated. Hopefully, that was a sensible answer.

01:03:36

All right, so I know there's a lot of questions going on, conversations going on. So let's look here, see if there's anything that I need to address.

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Let's see. Yeah. And Slicer Bread, I appreciate you saying that.

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I agree Votie doesn't know everything and didn't agree with him. I appreciate you saying that. And I hope I didn't seem like I was coming at your brother.

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I was just saying on this issue, I would have to hear more of his argument. I've heard some of it. And I think that there are times where we have to consider that our parents go beyond an age of being able to work.

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And I think, yeah, it seems like you and I would probably agree on that. All right.

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OK. Yeah, don't. Who said this? Nate, he said this explains much.

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Just kidding. Don't tase you, bro. Yeah. If you know, you know. Yeah, don't tase me. All right.

01:04:31

Yeah, Keith versus Votie, Thunderdome. Let me tell you something. Oh, wait. I'd love to drink a beer in moderation with you,

01:04:37

Keith. Yeah, well, maybe God will allow that one day. Every once in a while, I'll drink. I'll drink

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O'Doul's just to prove I'm a good Baptist. All right, guys, I think.

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Oh, yeah. Pastor Anderson. Yes, I would love to talk more about him. He's got a lot of stuff going on right now.

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In fact, if I do a church soup, I'm probably going to mention some stuff that he's he's got going on because there's a lot of stuff going coming out of his church right now.

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Pastor Steven Anderson is arguing for his. Arguing for his qualifications because people are saying that he's disqualified and have have some thoughts on that.

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I'm going to save for a church suit. All right. Last question. I'm going to let this one come in. Mary just sent a last question and she said, sorry,

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I'm so late. Just finished my reading question. Are you all OK, Keith? Then watching the

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Weather Channel and Jax looked inundated with rain. Well, thank you so much, Mary, for asking that question.

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And I want to say we are completely good.

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We did not have hardly anything from Hurricane Helene. A few people in our church experienced some power outages.

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Some of them went a few days, but that was it. There was not any major damage. We had some tree limbs down, but nothing major.

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This we were so blessed to be where we were because the week that it was happening,

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I was in North Georgia, up where a lot of the bad things happened. And I drove home the day before the storm hit.

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God had me home before it happened. And when it happened, all it was was bad rain.

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We didn't have anything happen. But thank you for asking. Thank you for praying. And by God's grace, we're good.

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We're hoping now to be able to help people. And that's what I want to remind you guys as I close tonight. For those of you who are just joining in with us,

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I'm going to be putting in the description of this video this link to a way to donate to the

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Brewster family. Aaron Brewster is a friend. He is caught up in the storm. His home was damaged. They've had a lot of issues that they've had to go through.

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And if you want to support them financially, I'm going to have a link in the description.

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And you'll be able to help him. And I would encourage you to do so. And if your church is doing other things,

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I pray for you guys to be successful as well. And may God bring the necessary relief to the people who are hurting.

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In fact, let's do this right now. I know some of you are watching. And I've never done this before on a live, but I want to do it right now. I'm going to finish this with a prayer.

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And as soon as I say amen, I'm going to end the stream. So let's have a quick prayer. Father in heaven,

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I thank you for everybody who's watching, all the people who are on the live stream tonight, and the people who have been participating.

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And God, I pray for this situation in the Carolinas and in Georgia and all the others who are hurting.

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Lord, the destruction has been massive. The loss of life has been devastating.

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It has been a tremendous disaster. And yet at the same time, Lord, we have seen some outpouring of love and mercy and grace, much of which is being done through churches and ministries.

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And God, we see the love of Christ being poured out. And we are so thankful. So we pray that you'll continue to do that, continue to use your people, continue to use those who have the means and the ability to help.

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And I pray that lives would be saved. I pray that souls would be encouraged. I pray that you would be glorified.

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And Lord, I pray, especially tonight for the Brewster family, someone I know personally who's suffering in this storm.

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I pray that you would be with them, watch over them, care for them, give them what they need. And Lord, through it all, that we would be reminded that you are sovereign, you are worthy of our praise, and you are to be glorified even in the time of difficulty.

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We thank you. We praise you in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, guys.