May 13, 2020 Show with Daniel P. Buttafuoco, Esq. on “How We Got God’s Word in the English Language”

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This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Wednesday on

this 13th day of May, 2020.

Momentarily, God willing, we're going to be joined by one of my best

friends on the planet, a man who's been a very important person in my life,

not only as a Christian, but in the radio industry, and specifically in Iron Sharpens Iron Radio.

His name is Daniel P. Buttafuoco, attorney at law.

He is the founder of the law firm of Buttafuoco and Associates, PLLC.

And he's also the founder of the Historical Bible Society, which is our main theme today.

Not only the Historical Bible Society, but also how we got God's word in English.

Dan, are you there?

Hey, Chris.

How you doing?

God bless you.

Yeah, you too, brother.

Staying safe?

Staying safe?

Well, yes, I am trying to stay safe.

And by the way, I've got to introduce you to a pharmacist who

has a doctorate in pharmacy and he is an elder at New Hyde Park Baptist Church, Dr. Bhanu Gadi.

I've interviewed him on this program.

He's going to be a sponsor of this program.

And he has been curing people of coronavirus with the simple product,

vitamin D3, initially in heavy doses.

And it's been borderlining on the miraculous, and it's amazing how nobody wants you to know

about it because vitamin D3 is very, very inexpensive.

That's probably one of the reasons why nobody wants you to know about it.

So basically, he's not your typical drug dealer.

I'm sure Bhanu will love that comparison.

I'm sure he's heard it before.

We always like to joke about that.

I've known Dan since the early 1990s.

He has been a client of mine going back to when I was an

advertising executive at WMCA Radio 570 on the AM dial.

And he continues to be a sponsor of the Iron Trip and Zion Radio program.

And not only that, he's a dear friend and brother in Christ.

And I'm thrilled to have you back on the program, Dan.

Amen, that's the most important thing.

We're brothers in the Lord.

And I can still fondly remember recording commercials in the Calvary Baptist Church

building from the pulpit, Mike, where you would get up there and record your commercials.

And even your daughter came in, Danielle, and knocked off a couple of...

No, Kristen.

Kristen, that's right.

Kristen.

And she, without even making a mistake, was able to record two ads

flawlessly.

And she did her thing, right?

Yeah.

But tell our listeners, first of all, before we go into our theme, tell our listeners about

Buttafuoco Associates, PLLC.

Well, we are personal injury medical malpractice trial lawyers.

I know that sounds like the devil to some of your listeners.

But we actually represent a lot of Christians.

In fact, what we're doing now is we're representing businesses all across America.

In the business interruption, the devil is actually the insurance company.

Insurance companies are denying these claims based on the pandemic exclusion.

Pizzerias, dentists, doctors, they bought

businesses around the pandemic exclusion.

And the

pandemic

exclusion is

suffering, and who doesn't?

That's what we do.

We help the public.

We help Christians.

We give to charities.

And maybe that's something that you listen to as

a preacher and have a master's degree in theology.

Well, praise God.

I'm so glad that you are making headway with the insurance companies trying to

basically rob people of money that's owed them.

So I'm thrilled to hear that.

And you'll be hearing commercials for Buttafuoco & Associates.

So you can contact them and make sure you got to make sure you tell them that you heard about his law firm from

Chris Arnzen on Iron Trap and Zion Radio.

And you have been an attorney how long?

I can't believe it.

It's almost 40 years.

Wow.

You know, Kristen, which is a little girl, would do that commercial.

And now she's a mother of triplets.

And I'm a grandfather six times over at the New

Testament.

Yes.

And I've made that available to some of you.

Everyone's quarantined.

I'm getting all kinds of strange.

I finally read your book.

I'm like, oh, great.

I really took a quarantine and a national health emergency to get you to read it.

But I actually got one Israeli guy that he read my book five times and accepted the Lord.

Oh, wow.

I'm happy about it.

Praise God.

Some good stuff is going on.

You know, God always works through all of this nonsense.

Praise God.

Well, now tell us about the Historical Bible Society.

The Historical Bible Society started, and Chris, you were part of the infancy of it, actually.

The Bible.

Actually, on a malpractice seminar, I was in the Woolworth's store.

I paid too much for it.

I decided I wanted to have an original, you know what I

mean?

So I bought one.

You know, we located one.

We bought it.

And I just was enamored with it.

I mean, the thing is gorgeous.

And I became really interested in the history of the English Bible.

And I started to

basically, I

would bring it to court.

I'd show people.

I'd show it to the judge.

I remember showing a judge in federal court.

Look at this cool book.

I remember bringing it to, you know, different places.

I saw the reaction of people, you know.

I'm trying to generate interest in the Bible, but I didn't think it would happen.

It's amazing.

Invariably, a discussion would ensue about the Bible and about Christ.

So I noticed that it was a good tool.

And God started to speak to my heart.

Collect more Bibles.

And then we became purposeful.

Blanks in the

government forbid

the guy

to make any more.

Wow.

Yeah, you haven't seen them.

They're so good.

Yeah, true, true.

And this guy, Sam Philippe, who is a very famous.

In fact, I had about four or five.

Word of God.

Yes, it is.

And I've seen your presentation, I think, close to, if not exceeding, ten times.

And was always riveted to it.

Was always fascinated by it.

And even though, obviously, facts don't change, you change it up a bit every time I see you do.

So it's a refreshing new experience every time I've witnessed it.

So I'm looking forward to it.

Thank you.

I mean, you know, that's what a trial lawyer does.

You know, a trial lawyer, we

try to be twitching or yawning

the case for

why we believe the Bible is the Word of God.

There's a very good case for that.

There's good evidence behind it.

A trial lawyer examines eyewitnesses.

Even Christians are straight away from the Bible.

I don't have to tell you.

You go to some of these churches, you don't even know if you're in church.

You think you're in a movie theater or on a Broadway show.

Right.

Jesus hardly comes up with it all.

I watched one guy preach for 40 minutes.

He never talked about anything.

Wow.

And I'm sitting there like, this is ridiculous.

This is an abomination.

This is terrible.

You know, Christ should be the centerpiece of whatever we do.

And, you know, the Bible, certainly, Christ is the centerpiece.

The Old Testament talks about him.

Jesus and Genesis.

He's everywhere, you know.

The Bible's a portrait of Jesus Christ from beginning to end.

And so, we try to make that case, the

format.

And, you know, he

actually was stoned

and became Christian.

And the church was worried about that.

Praise God.

Well, I'm going to give our listeners our e -mail address, if you'd like to join us on the air with a question for Dan Buttafuoco

about how we got God's Word in the English language.

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and you don't want to identify yourself.

All those things are valid reasons.

But if it's a general question on history in regard to the scriptures,

please at least give us your first name, city and state, and country of residence.

Well, first of all, tell us about how these manuscripts that

no longer exist, the actual autographs, the ones that came right from the

pen of an amanuensis of one of the authors of scripture, how

these manuscripts that were originally in Hebrew and

Aramaic and Greek, how did they eventually wind up into a combined

book that we now call the Bible?

I

mean, that's

something the

Britannica and the

Book of Acts.

It's with us from the beginning.

Other

than

that,

that

sort

of

traipsed

around this

virus

that

can't

control it,

what's the basis of this?

Is there anything behind this?

Is this

just

to be

a

patron

or

to

be...

You've got

John, who is in

the corner.

Well, there came a point in time where the Roman Catholic Church

demanded that the Latin Vulgate be the only available edition

of the Holy Scriptures, and anybody else with a Bible

in their native tongue or any other language faced some very harsh consequences,

and that at times even led to infamous tortures and executions.

And so tell us about the time when

these persecutions were taking place.

Tell us about some of the more notable heroes of the faith who were translating the Bible in

English and paying the price for it, and then we can find out more information about how it became

readily available in our language here in the English -speaking world.

All right, so this is where we get into some good in your...

Just kidding, guys.

I love you, Chris, you know that.

You know, being that I was never Catholic, I tend to be more charitable to

the Catholic Church.

They didn't do anything to me.

The people that I know who are the least charitable to the Catholic Church are the people who were Catholic and who were

in Catholic Church and weren't saved.

I've never really heard the God.

Having said that, there are some great Catholic people.

There are some great Catholic priests.

I know lots of Catholics that are thoroughly saved, and that's shocking

to some people.

But yes, there were major problems with the Catholic Church

and even beyond, but let's just concentrate on that period.

You know, they translated

the Vulgate at the

request of Pope Damascene I right around 384 A .D., and that's a good thing.

You know, I give the Pope Crow

Christ.

And to not know the Bible, there's not

much else going on.

Great social studies, the Church pretty much became what

it did in being humble.

A problem, by the way, that anyone could run into, not just the Church.

There were a lot of these megachurches.

They only wanted the Bible in Latin.

Now, this could be, you

know, we get to be the guardians

of it.

You know Latin?

Just like English is the business language of the world.

In fact, that's right.

In fact, in Norway, they conduct their business meetings in English, even if everyone in the room

speaks Norwegian.

It's actually really funny that it's English to be

the most vulgar and harmful.

So the Catholic

Church

was very, so

mad at

the

errors

of

kindling for

the fire.

And so did John.

Of course, the Church didn't do any of these nasty things.

Double time, you know,

it's in my hands.

It's

actually

not

bad,

killing

him in 1955.

And you have a page from the original Gettysburg.

I have a page.

I have an actual page from that press.

Very proud of that page.

I tried it out of a

guy's pension plan.

This is true.

We have that.

Can you even calculate how many millions of dollars a complete Gutenberg would be?

Yeah, the last one that was sold was sort of under the table.

Sold, not illegally, but just quietly, $5 million.

Wow.

And that's a good 20 years ago.

Would want that.

There's a bunch, there's about 44, I think, in the world that are complete.

If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the full two hours, with a little more than an hour to go, is

Daniel P. Buttafuoco.

And we are talking today about how we got God's Word in the English language.

And one of the reasons we're discussing this is that Dan, in addition to being the founder and senior partner of the law firm

of Buttafuoco Associates, PLLC, is also the founder of the Historical Bible

Society.

And if you have a question on this issue, how we got God's Word in the English language, our

email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

Chrisarnson at gmail .com.

And before we go to any listener questions, Dan, if you could pick up where you left off.

We were talking about the availability of God's Word in print due

to the Gutenberg press.

Yeah, Chris, thank you.

Well, once the Bible, once the printing press got going and knowledge was

more readily disseminated, you know, an information explosion, you know, certainly

not like the kind we're having with the Internet, but it was definitely much easier.

Quantities of information, whereas before it would take a whole year to make a Bible.

So now that stuff could be sort of mass -produced.

So they thought up until then, however, the Bible was only

really allowed in Latin.

What you see happening, really, where the cat gets out of the bag,

very, very

decided in 5th -century New

Testament, a handful of manuscripts.

When I say manuscripts, original Greek manuscripts representing the New Testament.

And so

the available manuscript, which was the Codex

Vaticanus Century Manuscripts

Library, was like,

let me at it.

I want to, you know, use that.

And the Pope just had to make do with what he had.

The manuscripts, he did not actually have the full, from what I understand, of

the New, which had already been translated from the Greek,

just to make sure he had a complete New Testament.

And surprisingly, he did a fairly good job.

And, you know, he was racing against the simultaneous

Zemenez

by about 6 years.

It was enough to make his the first.

Well, once that happened, it was only a matter of time.

They were like, hey, let's put it

in the same exact time.

Martin Luther was having his problems in

the 15th century,

and St. Peter's

Basilica was

pointing weird

things,

infuriated the people.

But he finally got saved.

You don't hear that term anymore.

You know, I used to say when I was a kid, brother, you're saved, yeah, I'm saved.

You know, you know when you're saved.

Well, Luther wasn't saved in the beginning, even though he was a devout Catholic.

He was tormented by it.

You know the story.

I mean, he was terrified of God.

He didn't have peace with God.

You know, people talk about when Messiah comes, will Messiah bring peace, you know?

And they try to talk about it.

Yeah.

Well, the peace that Messiah brings is the peace with God.

And, you know, Luther didn't have that peace.

Until finally, he stumbled upon, he actually

bothered to read the New Testament.

Why?

Because it just shall live.

Salvation.

Churches.

Not to the extent

that

they

died.

People were

questioned about this.

Major contribution.

Get the Bible

into,

which could get them to the Reformation.

They continue to pump

out material.

And, by the way, Luther was recounting

the Gospels and sermons.

Wow.

Can you imagine that?

Wow.

More than 50%.

I did not know that.

Yeah, it's crazy.

You know, I was with my

dad years ago.

My dad's still alive.

Looking at it, and it was just so cool.

I said,

yeah, would you like 22, 15, 23, 15, 24?

It was Wingly.

In fact, that got me into a Lutheran church not too long ago.

And, you know, he's got the collar and the whole nine yards.

And very nice guy.

His name's Neil.

What are you doing here?

I said, would you like to see some of Luther?

And I brought the collection and really helped them out.

And

they were very leafed

on and on about that.

That is not important.

And, you know, try to keep the unity of the body of Christ.

So, he wanted

to be divorced

and

decide

himself to

head of the

church

instead of the pope.

At the time was very right for all.

In spite of that, Henry still considered himself a Catholic.

And

Tyndale thought

that he betrayed him.

Bibles

that he

printed to

just

get

the

word out of

him anymore.

No one teaches about him in public schools.

Didn't he invent words that are now commonplace in English?

Oh, yeah, the word beautiful.

He invented the word that we use all the time.

Wow.

Beautiful.

That's a Tyndale word.

Fully named each

language.

One of them

was

his,

you

know,

or his name.

Yes.

Was it Michael Horton?

Yes.

That's right.

Michael Horton named his radio program after that.

Okay.

Well, there were like 50 guys, including Miles Coverdale and John Rogers and a

bunch of other guys, that were meeting over ale, you know, and discussing how to get the Bible in English and

conspiring.

Allegedly, all of them were killed except for Miles Coverdale.

And he went on to print the Coverdale Bible.

But by this time, you know, the cat is sort of out of the bag.

And now people are tripping over themselves.

He gets involved in the Geneva Bible.

And I have a copy of the first ever Geneva Bible.

I have a copy of, I don't know if you know this, I've got a Calvin Institute for the Christian religion.

You may not have seen that one.

No.

First edition?

Well, you can't get the first edition.

But each edition is considered a separate library.

I have the last edition that he did during his life.

Wow.

So it's sort of a first, but it's not the true first.

But it's just amazing because, you know, now everybody's relying on the scriptures, you know, the Sola

Scriptura of the Reformation.

It's rallying everybody.

But Thomas Lineacre, right,

a guy you don't typically hear about, he was at Oxford

for his seventh and eighth in

England.

He decided to learn Greek.

And after reading the Gospels in Greek and comparing it to his Latin Vulgate, he wrote in his diary,

even this, the original Greek is not the Gospel, or we're not Christians.

Wow.

That's sort of how Latin Vulgate had become, or at least the teaching

of the church.

And then in 1496, John

Collette, that's the Italian name from

Colletti, another Oxford professor, the son of the mayor of London, and he started

preaching at the cathedral.

Now, typically, St. Paul's Cathedral today,

50 ,000 people packed in the church in those days.

Wow.

And more outside trying to get in.

And all they were doing was reading the Bible in English.

Wow.

People were so enthralled to hear the Bible, you know, starved for the word of God.

You know, Jesus said, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

Right?

So these people were truly spiritually hungry.

We take it for granted.

I mean, you and I have.

See,

and the power of the

Pope

and

all his

work

available,

and he called them the Pope.

That was a quote he made.

Yes.

A

portion

of the

script.

To get back to the Bible,

that's where

we're

getting a lot of

people

being

burned at

this

stage.

Yes, I actually have seen that at your presentations.

Yeah, we have one that we bring that's colored that we bring that somebody, you know, hand -colored it.

We like that one.

Well,

we have

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And now we have some questions from the audience, Dan, that I'd like to read to you.

First of all, we've got a question from Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina,

and Grady has been quite a faithful and generous supporter of Iron Sharpens Iron

Radio financially, and we thank the Lord for him.

He says, Hi, Brothers Chris and Dan.

You said John Calvin translated the Geneva Bible.

What did he translate it from?

It's my understanding that before King James, it's my understanding that before

King James, I had the King James translation done.

His grammar is rather clumsy, Grady.

I'm sorry about that, but I'm not really getting your question here.

I had the King James translation done.

Oh, I see.

It says before King James I had the King James

translation done that the Geneva Bible was used by the Puritans.

Was there so many of the King James Bibles available that the populace switched to them,

or was it a better translation?

Interesting, and Dan, I'm pretty confident you'll confirm this.

It's kind of interesting how we have very sectarian

and nasty sometimes and bigoted King James only advocates who

even go to the lengths of saying that if you're using another translation, you're not saved.

It's interesting how, although the Puritans didn't go that far, I understand they viewed the King James

Bible as a liberal translation because they loved the Geneva so much.

But also, please answer Grady's question.

Okay, well,

it's all a

masterpiece.

We're trying to get together to produce what's called an

authorized

Geneva

Bible.

Like you

said, they think

that's

the

only way.

They took

that

into

consideration

on

the

Mayflower,

and it's a chapter and verse.

Before you

see that, John actually numbered the verses,

which is very helpful.

...by the

King

James, or even

all

these kings actually

have

about

95 in Tyndale.

I

mean,

1525, he used the Bible.

But in 1539, they

were done

in a

barn.

They were done in a

Catholic church.

Hard to

get.

Hard

to get.

...to the king, but it wasn't until 1539 that it was actually to

be the Bible of choice.

But the problem with the Geneva Bible was that in so many commentaries

and as later

names, they're

footnotes

just

on

Erasmus

in

the

New

Testament.

Don't get me wrong, I love the King James.

You know, discoveries of

mansions, they usually...

But it's so rare.

As I said earlier, the Geneva Bible was the Bible that came over on the Mayflower.

Yes, the Thalegeneer Ministries, I think, were promoting a facsimile.

Somebody was, but...

Now, when you said earlier that the King James Version is largely a Catholic Bible, obviously the

translators were Anglican, but are you talking about the fact that the Textus Receptus was established by

Erasmus, who debated Luther on the bondage of the will?

Is that what you really mean about the Catholic...

Well, yeah, but not only that, Anglican is essentially Catholic.

I mean, you know, they're certainly not Baptists.

You know, I consider Anglican as basically Catholic without the Pope.

Well, there is a wing of Catholicism, Anglo -Catholicism, that is more in that

category, but there are true Protestants who are Reformed and so on in the Anglican

Church.

Yeah, no, absolutely.

I don't want to split theological hairs.

I know you love to do that.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

But what I'm trying to say is that the Catholic Church, the Protestant movement was so new

at this point, they

essentially do a Reims

Version.

I have a 1582 Version,

because I used that phrase a few times.

I follow the Catholic Church with the attitude, well, if you can't beat them, we'll join them.

And they printed, we're

done.

And it was allegedly considered such a...

Fulke wrote an entire Bible called Fulke's Refutation,

I think originally in 1599,

and by line, including the preface.

Including the preface with,

you know, we would have printed a New Testament earlier, but we didn't have the money, and, you know, we

finally, by the grace of God, decided to do it, and Fulke followed

it, because, you know, it's

an

actual line -by -line critique of the Geneva.

You

know, they had

bad

motives,

but, you know, certainly you could.

Repentance

and

debate,

you know, which is the

more accurate translation?

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Modern translations act like a ban.

Right.

Even more modern translations

act like a ban, which

to me, in them, like a ban.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

The

evolution

of

language.

Well, we can't forget the Four Seasons Version of the Bible.

Walk like a man, talk like a man.

Walk like a man, quit like a man, act like a man, you know, yeah.

Right, I know, it gets, it sort of gets very esoteric, you know, in terms of these things.

I just want to encourage your listeners, because I know that you have some very intelligent people listening, and

intelligent people who aren't familiar with this stuff will maybe have some less scoop.

What I want to encourage people, all of you, is to understand that the Bible, and

what it is, is 95 reliable,

and that, you know, the best thing to do, especially with the Internet, which is what I recommend people to do, is

use multiple translations if you have any question as to what's being said.

And you can do that on any number of Internet sites, particularly like BibleHub .com, which

compares about 20 side -by -side translations.

And, you know, when you do that, you're going to see readily that there is not much difference.

...verse over... in one translation over another.

They all are saying lightly different ways, and what you'll find when you do that is you

sort of get a holographic view of the Scripture.

And I remember when I was in Bible school, and my professor, who was a Princeton doctor,

he said, I want you to do a paper on a passage of Scripture, and he goes, I want you to use no less than 10

translations.

And I thought he had two heads.

I thought, like, this is not possible.

He didn't even know there were that many.

And then, sure enough, you know, he was right.

And then as I did the exercise, and I wrote the paper, the

volume to what he was saying, you know, it was just nuances of meaning, but it gave me a richer...

example,

the NIV translation, right?

...idiomatic translation...

In fact, even though our mutual friend, Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries, wrote the

King James Only Controversy...

...Only Controversy...

...there are occasions where, during a sermon, he will point out that he prefers

a certain text the way that the King James translates it.

Yeah, I mean, you're going to quote John 3 .16, it sounds great, the King James, you know?

And by the way, it was either the last time or the time before when Dr. White was on this

program, he was raving about your gift to him on Christmas some

years ago.

I don't know how many years ago it was when you gave him the Stephanas text from your collection.

I gave him a...

I think I blew his mind.

You did.

Well, you know, he deserves it.

He's a true... ...to be a scholar.

I mean, to me, an amateur scholar,

no matter what your...

...subjects.

And more importantly, we need to be able to answer...

I recommend you guys go on Quora.

Has anybody been on Quora?

Quora is a wonderful website.

Yes, there's a lot of junk on it, but it's this great questions that are asked, and I'm laying in

with regularity on theological subjects.

I now have 102 ,000 views, and I've only been doing it a couple of months,

and I'm enjoying it.

And I...

You can't even believe some of the things that people say.

It's so ignorant and so wrong and so evil, and I just sort of put people nicely in their

place and defend the faith.

And I recommend any...

I love doing it.

I recommend that any of you listeners do that.

Go on Quora and sign up, and you get a fee,

or anything like that.

What

it is, is a public forum

to

flush

on

their dime

from somebody on the other side of the world who's never read the Bible.

If you can do that...

The point of this is that we have to be well -versed

in terms of the cops and lawyers.

Amen.

I have a question from Cork, Ireland, that I'm going to read,

and I'll have you answer it when we come back from our final break.

And this relates to something about what you were just talking about.

We have Mary in Cork, Ireland, who asks,.

I have heard that there is more evidence pointing to the reliability of the New Testament

than there is for such great works of antiquity as Shakespeare and others.

And I have heard that even Bart Ehrman reluctantly agreed to that fact.

Is this true?

So, if anybody else wants to join us, now's the time to shoot your question to us to chrisarnson at gmail

.com because we're really rapidly running out of time.

Chrisarnson at gmail .com.

Don't go away.

We'll be right back with more of Dan Buttafuoco.

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I want to tell you about a man I have personally known for many years.

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Dan is a personal injury and medical malpractice lawyer, but not the type that typically comes to mind.

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Ravi Zacharias wrote the foreword.

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This is Chris Arnzen.

If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the full two hours has been Dan Buttafuoco, attorney at

law and founder of the Historical Bible Society, and Mary from Cork, Ireland,

as you probably remember, wanted to know if it is true that there is more evidence

attesting to the authenticity of the New Testament, more evidence for that, than there is for the

greatest works of antiquity, such as Shakespeare.

Yeah, okay, let me just say it was worth it, that question, because you brought up Bart Ehrman, and your

question is, yes, Bart Ehrman would agree that there is

an ancient

manuscript

of the New Testament,

20, that's ancient

manuscripts,

300 years after Homer wrote

complete manuscripts, ancient manuscripts, and yet,

Scottish

manuscripts,

Jesus, in order to sell books.

You know, I heard about Ehrman before that,

that the copying errors are such that.

Great, well,.

Thank you, Mary, and now we have a first -time questioner, Carlene,

and forgive me if I mispronounce this city in New Jersey, Hopatcong,

H -O -P -A -T -C -O -N -G, in Sussex County, New Jersey,

she asks, did Wycliffe have assistance in

translating the Bible into English, or was he doing that all on his own?

Well,.

You know, that's a good question.

I mean, this happened,.

I,.

My belief is that Wycliffe, but that

he had help with the actual copying, I believe he did the

actual, not many people were that

pretty

translated a passage with him or something.

Well,.

Thank you, Carlene, and guess what?

Since you are a first -time questioner, you receive a free New American Standard Bible, so

please make sure you give me your full mailing address in Hopatcong,

New Jersey, and sorry if I'm mispronouncing that again.

We have John in Bangor, Maine, who wants to know, how far are you willing to travel in the United States

to give your Historical Bible Society presentations?

You know, well, it's changed since the COVID -19 situation.

You know, we had access, lent us,

to go down to the Billy Graham Library from New York.

Well,.

Now I'd like you to summarize in several minutes what you most want etched in the hearts and

minds of our listeners today regarding our subject.

Yeah, that's great.

That's a great point.

My summation here would be that the Bible that you have on your computer, on your smartphone,

in your hands, on your desk, in

the

monkey,

translated by people with a clear agenda, but we've got even that Bible you could get

saved with if you read it.

But, but the Bible that you have accessible to you is the product of the work of many great

scholars and men and women who have risked their lives, given their lives, shed their blood,

and suffered tremendous tortures so that you could have.

The Word of God.

In your language

would

not

even understand the debate.

I mean, you know, we can get into the critical text and the majority text and, you know, really confuse everybody, but the bottom line

is the Bible that you have is reliable.

You can read it with confidence.

There's no doctrine of the churches in dispute.

They all have

leaving out a comma

and a hundred lines in dispute at the most.

And these are all counted as variants even if the same thing is repeated.

It's really not something that you should worry about and you can be bold and confident in knowing that you have an

accurate reading, you have an accurate copy of what Matthew said,

and you can put your and you can trust the Word of God as the very words of God.

Well, praise God.

You know, it's been a thrill for me to have you back on the show after such a long absence,.

Dan,.

And I hope that you're not a stranger for too long before you return.

And I just want to make sure that our listeners have all of your contact information.

First of all, the website for the law firm of Buttafuoco & Associates.

Is.

1 -800 -NowHurt .com 1 -800 -NowHurt

.com.

And then, of course, the Historical Bible Society can be found at HistoricalBibleSociety .org

HistoricalBibleSociety .org.

And if you could, stick on the phone for a couple of minutes after we go off the air because I just want to give you a proper goodbye,

brother.

Go ahead.

That's also our phone number, 800 -NowHurt.

1 -800 -NowHurt is not only our website, it's also our phone number.

You can also have my email personally, I don't mind.

It's dbalaw .com.

They said not only doing injury claims,

but he's denying coverage.

So if anybody is a Christian

with COVID -19 virus,

and we're not charging.

Well, I would love.

To have you back on the show to discuss that if you would like.

Yeah, whatever.

I mean, whatever.

Great.

Well, I'm here.

I'm here and I'm available.

I support you, buddy.

You know, I love what you do.

Great.

Well, I want to thank also everybody who listened today, especially those who took the time to write.

I apologize for those of you we didn't have time to ask your questions, but keep

your eyes and ears open for Dan's next visit.

And maybe your question will make the cut next time.

But I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior

than you are a sinner.