April 23, 2020 Show with Ron McKinney on “One PASTOR’s FAMILY’s EXODUS From ARMINIAN PENTECOSTALISM Into SOVEREIGN GRACE!”

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I've been wanting to interview My guest today for quite a long time and I'm so thrilled that I finally have the opportunity. His name is Ron McKinney and I first heard about Ron McKinney a number of years ago probably back in the late 1980s or early 1990s when I heard about his dad Don McKinney.

I believe it was John Riesinger who many folks know as being one of the pioneers of The mid 20th century resurgence of Calvinism amongst Baptists in the United States and around the world. And John had told me about Don McKinney my thought my Guests a father who was in assemblies of God pastor who was forced out of that congregation where he? ministered after coming to believe in the doctrines of sovereign grace That have been nicknamed Calvinism Reform theology sovereign grace theology New Covenant theology, there's all different kinds of labels and there's all different kinds of facets within the movement known as the sovereign grace movement, but I Heard the farewell sermon on tape That Don McKinney gave the last sermon.

He gave at that assemblies of God congregation before Leaving there permanently and I'm delighted to get to know his son Ron who's our guest today and he is pastor of Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia.

And today we are going to be addressing one pastors family's exodus from Arminian Pentecostalism into sovereign grace and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron trumpets iron radio pastor Ron McKinney.

Thank you very much Chris. I'm pleased to be with you today. I'd like to give a little history background of my father, of course and give you an idea of what. In fact, he comes from Pennsylvania or he was born in Lebanon, Pennsylvania.

Yes. It's in it. I've visited there several times. I've always liked Lebanon baloney. That was not.

Yeah, they sell that even here in Carlisle in the local Walmart.

I've been to Carlisle. Also, I preached up with Patrick. That's where I'm a member. Is that right? And I I stayed with George Merritt. But I want to I want to mention about my dad in his. We're going back a long ways.

I know but 1938 when my dad graduated from high school at Lebanon High California calling upon again to share another.

I.

Don't want to hear again the message that had some areas didn't know at the time. But he would don't know all the details about it, but I didn't know that back in. This is the amazing thing here's a man had no knowledge what he didn't know now.

No, he had two things that he said to me number one. He didn't know in this man's 20 and you've got to go to church and 11 days. From the day he came here. This is the truth. He shan down this altar and he began to groan and Moan sit down.

I was pointed air of all things for months. This is about three years and If you want to know that his family was not even in they didn't find it in the Bible. Happen was my dad was in by the presbyters and all he did that day if they interviewed him about the sovereign grace of God and At the end these men these presbyters said how to refute you.

You know more Bible than we do. They did any answer. All they would say was now. The the Baptist believe this and the Presbyterians believe this and the family of God's believe it. That's a poor poor way, right of presenting what you know what you believe and Dad, he was day Immensely dad had been on television several years there.

They had this beautiful Rending of a church. They were going to build a new property. They've gotten fact that church became one of the largest. I think they had five or six thousand members. In attendant Tidings which is still sermon audio and it's worth listening to.

Hallelujah. Not even the Presbyterians. Okay, praise God I believe and.

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This is Chris Arnzen your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio. If you just tuned us in our guest today for the full two hours with a little less than 90 minutes to go is Pastor Ron McKinney of Kinsey Drive Baptist Church in Dalton, Georgia and We are discussing one pastor's family's exodus from Arminian Pentecostalism Into sovereign grace if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own.

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And by the way, folks, I would want to make it clear that My reasons for doing today's program is because I love the doctrines of sovereign grace. I love them with a passion and I Want to shout these things from the rooftops.

It has nothing to do with my hatred or My looking down upon my Pentecostal and charismatic brothers and sisters in Christ. I have learned a great deal from Pentecostal and charismatic friends and At many on many occasions they have proven themselves to be far superior to to me and their godliness and their walk with Christ and just a very impressive way of Being so bold about their faith and so on.

Now, obviously, I believe that there are many under that that term Pentecostalism that are false professors that some of them are wolves in sheep's clothing like those that are in the word of faith movement, especially the leaders and the media personalities in that movement.

But there are multitudes of fine Outstanding Pentecostals and charismatics and in fact One of the major financial supporters of this radio program is an Assemblies of God elder. But he also has come to believe in the doctrines of sovereign grace.

Another.

Another friend of mine.

Who.

Was a overseer on Long Island, New York. He was a bishop in the Assemblies of God Al Stein. He came to believe in the doctrines of sovereign grace all five points of Calvinism and beyond that. He was a precious dear brother in Christ and tragically a Number of years ago perished in a an automobile accident.

But so I do know folks from these backgrounds that have come to believe in these truths. Some have.

Remained.

Non cessationists or continuous and some have left the belief in the sign gifts being present today altogether, but I just wanted to make that clear that this is not being done out of arrogance or snobbery or sectarian spirit.

But this is being done because I and my guests love the doctrines of sovereign grace. And I am never going to be embarrassed by them. I'm never going to Subdue or dilute my enthusiasm over them and.

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If you could Ron pick up where you left off in your testimony. Yes, you were being challenged by folks because they had heard about your dad's Transformation.

Ron McKinney’s Journey from Pentecostalism to Sovereign Grace

Because while we were in Lake Charleston My brother wasn't if I'm talking about the four of us my dad my uncle my brother and myself. We would but I was there. Oh, yeah. Excellent. I Read a W pink blue my mind that has blown a lot of people's minds.

Was it Frank Smith.

No, it wasn't Frank Brain Bettner. Oh, wow. That's a big book I'm telling you and I got it, you know I didn't have much in my shelves and I got that and I took it home and my dad read it. Part of all of this coming together before he left the denomination.

I.

Never heard it rendered that way, but it's interesting.

And I ran into another one of them a few years ago and he's become part of a reformed Baptist Church. And I would just I was so amazed at these because that was not what happened because when I did that I was called on the carpet and Even though I was engaged to get married at that point.

I was told I had to leave and I was dismissed and That kind of said. Well, I went to a little church going back to reformed theological seminary to get my Masters of Divinity and.

There.

The beautiful little church. They have left the United met for the most part really not because of liberalism. Well, it was there was that was probably some of it, but it was a lot more of the other so anyway.

Yes, here's what happened was I went there. I just spoke to one of us. I began to teach these at all. In fact brother. I'm sorry, but we have to go another commercial break.

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