TPW 65 The Full Deity of Christ in Response to the Hebrew Roots Movement

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Welcome to the Protestant Witness. This is Pastor Patrick Hines here at Gridwell Heights Presbyterian Church and Today, I'm gonna do a special program in response to an email
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I got from an old friend back in the the homeland up there in Ohio and evidently, he's got family or that have
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Been sucked into the Hebrew Roots movement, and I don't want to get into all the details with that I've had a few dust -ups with Hebrew Roots folks and I had a guy
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Trying to tell me that the whole New Testament was written in Aramaic and he actually recommended The Aramaic English New Testament to me and Looked at the editor
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Andrew Gabriel Roth. Lo and behold, it's civilianism. It's modalism. It's the nation heresy
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Denies the Trinity denies the deity of Christ Wow, what a shock There really there really isn't much new in terms of insights that people come up with these days so usually when people latch on to things like this, it's just Recycled old heresy and that's exactly what this is.
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And so we're getting you know, some some bizarre arguments here this fellow Forwarded me a discussion thread
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From this guy who's trying his best to deny the full deity of Christ Which is a shame because if you have a
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Jesus who is something less than God Then you have a Jesus that cannot save you but from reading through this email a couple times in preparation to do this
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It doesn't seem like he believes he needs a Savior anyway because he keeps the Sabbath and Keeps the dietary laws.
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So I guess he's going to heaven Yeah, we're justification by keeping the Sabbath and keeping the dietary laws there's there's an interesting biblical concept that's not true
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Well, let's go ahead and just plow through some of this. This is some of this is pretty standard civilian modalistic
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Argumentation. This is stuff that Christians refuted 1 ,700 years ago, but like all the other errors and heresies
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Christological heresies Trinitarian heresies They just resurface under new names this is just the
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Hebrews movement and I remember thinking as soon as that guy forwarded me the Aramaic English New Testament and he
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Was trying to defend dietary laws And I mean, it's I mean seriously you can just like push play on these people and what they start saying
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Acts chapter 11 Peter kill and eat Peter kill and eat
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What is that talking about? Oh, that's not lifting the dietary restrictions. Oh, no. No, no He's just making an illustration.
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So he would he would know that Gentiles can come into the church now Really that's all he's doing.
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What about what about when Paul rebuked Peter? In Galatians chapter 2 remember that when he rebuked him
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Because he withdrew from table fellowship with Gentiles and Paul's like hey, man I've seen you eat BLT sandwiches before bacon lettuce and tomato.
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You've done it before So, why are you trying to force Gentiles to live like Jews, etc, etc because the dietary restrictions have been repealed
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Oh, no, no, no. No, they he's just trying to teach him about the inclusion of Gentiles blah blah blah It's just not faithful to the text of Scripture.
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This is what happens when people deny sola scriptura They can't read the
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Bible. The Bible makes no sense to him and what it says is irrelevant now in this email that I was sent here a lot of things are said here and My friend said
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I've thrown verses his way, but he retorts with Greek and Hebrew Translations and says they don't mean what the
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English have made it to mean and how we understand it today very common Jehovah's Witnesses do the same thing. I have never met a
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Jehovah's Witness that actually knew anything about the original languages And my suspicion here having plowed through this this email is that this guy doesn't know anything about the original languages either
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They'll memorize a few arguments, but the fact is they've never studied the languages. So they really don't know anything about syntax about Lexicography that nothing they don't know anything about the languages they have there, you know you hear an argument you turn your brain off and push play and then here here comes the
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You know stuff about John 1 1 and well, yeah, Yahweh is the only true God So that must mean that he's
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Unitarian that that's the assumption that we put behind everything and you just think no That's not an assumption that you can make the passages.
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Do not say that So let's uh, let's read. I'm gonna read through some of this and I'm gonna go into some more detail about Why Christians have always believed in the full deity of the
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Lord Jesus Christ and believed that Jesus Christ is Yahweh Not that Jesus is the father
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That's one thing, you know, Jehovah's Witnesses have been to my house five times in the last six years And what they always say the same thing?
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Well, the Bible says that Jesus is the Son of God not that he's God and I've always said the same thing
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All you just proved is that the Son is not the Father. We don't believe that Jesus is the
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Father But that's just it just doesn't compute because once you've bought the assumption of Unitarianism The Bible doesn't make any sense at all.
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It doesn't make any sense whatsoever Okay, so let's let's see if there's anything original here He says people seem to talk a lot about who
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God is mainstream Christians say Jesus is God Buddhists say God is in everyone in India God is a certain man -made statue or a certain man -made picture in whatever temple somewhere, but they're all wrong
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Let me publish the answer so you can know here it is Isaiah 40 28.
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Have you not known? Have you not heard? Yahweh is the everlasting God the creator of the ends of the earth.
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He does not faint or grow weary Is that supposed to be a news to us?
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We are monotheists Yahweh is the only true God indeed What does that have to do with?
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Jesus not being God nothing. It's just what's the assumption every time the word
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Yahweh is used What is the presupposition? What's the assumption because they don't believe in soul scripture and they've already bought this external authority
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That's telling them what to believe outside of Scripture every time the word Yahweh is used. He can only be one person He can only be one person
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That's just an assumption everywhere. The term is used. It's just one person God cannot be a a tri unity of persons.
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That is the assumption and that's not a biblical assumption. Sorry Okay the
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Greek phrase there is logos and Theos Word in God, I guess is that a quotation from the
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Septuagint? Theos translates to the English word Divine which more specifically means from God Okay, so this is exactly the testimony about him that he was sent to earth and made into flesh
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By his father to do his father's will and not his own Yeah, let's zoom in on Genesis 1 for a second
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If you cross -reference John 1 1 with the Septuagint you'll find the Greek Theos is interchangeable with the
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Hebrew word Elohim that's right. Genesis 1 1 and John 1 1 are identical
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At least the opening words are NRK and halakha's right there and in the Septuagint I mean John 1 1 in the
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New Testament NRK and halakha's Kai halakha's and prostante on Kai Theos and halakha's The the first few words there in the beginning that's a mirror directly from the
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Septuagint translation of Barak sheet Barah Elohim Hashem. I am why it's the first words that are used there
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Are translated exactly the same way NRK in the beginning. That's right Okay, let's see
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As far as English goes Elohim is improperly called a name for God, but used only as a loose -fitting title
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But that's that's actually true. Elohim is just the generic Hebrew word for God. I mean Dagon is the
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Elohim of the Philistines. Okay, the word Elohim is not a proper title That's not the covenantal name for God Elohim is simply the generic
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Hebrew word for God now Sometimes it does refer to the one true God in Genesis 1 1 in Hebrew Barak Sheet Barah Elohim Barak Sheet Barah Elohim Okay in the beginning
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God created that is talking about the true God But Elohim is not the covenantal name the covenant name of God is
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Yahweh Okay, for example, the God his name is Yahweh is titled the Elohim of Elohim the
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God of gods right in Deuteronomy 1017 That's true. And it's also irrelevant to what we're talking about Now, do you remember when the soul of Samuel?
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That's right. The soul of Samuel is the term Elohim is used there Quite quite true. What does that have to do with Jesus? Nothing same word in Genesis 1
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What does that have to do with Jesus not being God nothing that angels and demons are called Elohim Right.
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What does it have to do with Jesus not being God? Nothing Again, same word in Genesis 1 that Moses was
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Elohim to Pharaoh true exact same word Elohim That is true, and that's irrelevant to the issue before us
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So this title is on quite a lot of different resumes This makes it so you can't say
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Elohim refers exclusively to the only God whose name is Yahweh And I would say what could be more obvious, of course
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Who's saying that? The name on God's resume is Yahweh not Elohim. Well, that's an interesting way the name on his resume
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I think that the proper way of putting that is the the covenantal name of God is
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Yahweh That's how God has revealed himself covenantally to his people And like it says in the prophets is like a riot 14 9 and Yahweh will be king over all the earth on that day
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Yahweh will be one in his name one. That's true. And that's irrelevant. And then he says but you make his name to be three
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No, we don't No, we don't we say that within the nature of the one true God There are three persons because that's how the scriptures reveal it to us
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We have to believe that because that's how the Bible teaches it to us Anyway, are you saying the
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English word God is interchangeable with the Hebrew word Elohim? It's a valid gloss for the word
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Elohim. Yeah We're not saying that every where the word Elohim is used it refers to the one true
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God though and here Here's the shocking thing. Here's the thing that that is obvious and should be obvious context
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Context tells you how the words being used Okay, so when Elohim is used to describe
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Dagon the Elohim of the Philistines, that's obviously not the true God Okay, but in Genesis 1 1 it is a true
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God where she threw our Elohim in the beginning God created the heavens near so context
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Determines how the terms being used Because if you are that's essentially what the translators thought too and really that only helps my point and it's a big deal
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Okay, whoever this is No translators have ever thought that No Trent no
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Hebrew translators have ever thought that the word Elohim means the covenant
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God of Israel everywhere It's used that's that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard No Hebrew scholar would ever make a mistake that big
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Okay, I mean you learn that in the first two weeks of first -year
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Hebrew. Okay, that's absurdity I mean, what would he say? That's essentially what the translators thought too.
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That's ridiculous. No translators have thought that no translators I've ever thought that and In John 10
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Christ points out that the scripture calls us the same word Elohim to which the Word of God came That's that's a really a really bad
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Misunderstanding of John 10 and its use of some Jesus's use of Psalm 82 on this use there
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It's difficult passage to interpret, but I'm not even sure what you're saying He uses the word
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Elohim to refer he uses the term Elohim to refer to the unjust judges that Psalm 82 is pronouncing judgment against Okay So the word
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Elohim from Genesis 1 has a whole slew of separate and distinct beings that fit the title Elohim in Hebrew Yes, that's true.
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And what could be more obvious? What does it have to do with Jesus being God or not being
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God? nothing and Even any person to whom the Word of God has come which is even both you and I But there's only one
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God whose title is Elohim of Elohim and his name is one. His name is Yahweh That's true.
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And that your assumption is Unitarianism and that's what all civilians and all
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Heretics that hold this this ancient heresy of modalism have always said his name is one not three
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There's only one God not three gods I am a monotheist and Christian people who have affirmed the deity of Christ from the very beginning
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All the way way back in the New Testament The early church fathers Ignatius of Antioch and his genuine epistles refers to Jesus Christ 14 times as quote our
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God end quote Okay, everyone from the beginning has believed in the full deity of Jesus Christ That doesn't mean that we think there's three gods
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Okay, it's just it's just funny. You make his name three not one. No, he has one name
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Yahweh Okay, I cannot believe that just because Christ is
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Elohim that makes him part of some mysterious unexplained Godhead of three and that I must worship
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Christ for being part of this Unexplainable mystery. No you worship Christ because that's what the
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New Testament teaches us to do Okay, look at a Revelation chapter 4. They worship the
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Lamb Okay in Matthew 14 33 when Jesus calms the storm what did the disciples do they fall down in the boat and they give?
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proscuno Worship to Jesus and he doesn't he doesn't say no. No. No, you worship
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Yahweh. Not me. Not me He accepts it in Matthew 28. They worshipped
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And he doesn't stop them. He doesn't rebuke them Now when John falls down at the foot of the angel in the book of Revelation was the angel say no
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No, don't do that. Don't do that. Worship God, but when people fall down and worship Jesus He he accepts it why because he is
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Yahweh He is God the Son and that's what Christians have always believed because that's what the New Testament teaches very clearly as we're going to see
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Here it's not some mysterious unexplained Godhead of three that that's that's just rhetoric without meaning
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But that's so typical of this perspective of Sibellians and modalists from from the beginning from 1 ,700 years ago same old argument same old nonsense
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You worship Jesus Christ because Jesus is God as we're gonna see here in just a moment Okay, it only means the
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English translators use the English word God Interchangeably with the Hebrew word Elohim and that is extremely helpful to recognize that Know the the
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English word God is what the word Elohim means But the context in which it's used determines what it was referring to Okay, because that's how language is read you look at it in its context
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Otherwise you have to acknowledge that anyone and everyone in the Bible who is called Elohim must be part of the Godhead Only if you've never heard of context
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Context tells you how words are being used Okay, which would make many more than three in the
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Godhead doctrine, which is something you or I or anyone from that matter sincerely believes Therefore it's easy to see how
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Hebrew would read John 1 1 in their own language Because of the evidence in the Septuagint John 1 1 could read like this.
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The word was Elohim, but that's not what it says Okay, kythaios ain halagos is what's called a predicate nominative.
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Okay, they're both in the nominative case Halagos has a definite article. It is joined together with a linking verb of the imperfect form of I me
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Thaos is a qualitative predicate nominative. The word is Divine not that doesn't mean as you said earlier from God.
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Okay, it doesn't mean from God There is a perfectly valid way of saying that you could say Pras or you could say ek from God or something like that But you would not say kythaios ain halagos.
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That means the word was God Okay, that means that what what God is by nature.
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So is the word I mean the the verse is beautiful nrk ain halagos in the beginning was the word
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Ky halagos ain pras tan theon and the word was with Tan theon meaning the father so you have two subsistences here two persons in view here and The word was
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God By nature, it's a qualitative predicate nominative syntactically, that's what it is
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Okay. Now you've memorized some stuff that your false teachers have poured into your brain
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But you don't know anything about Greek grammar. Okay qualitative predicate nominative kythaios ain halagos and the word was
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God Okay, what God the Father is the word is by nature Okay, and that's what
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Hebrews 1 3 says as well That's the the Sun is the exact character of the who pasta see us the nature
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The nature of the father not that he's like him or from him or similar, but he has the identical nature
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Identical nature. Okay. He is the brightness of Yahweh's glory of a gossam a taste doc says
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Okay, and the exact representation of his nature who pasta see us taste character
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Exact representation of his nature nature who pasta see us
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All right. Now, maybe maybe who pasta see us doesn't mean nature But that's what every lexicon that I've ever read says the
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Athanasian Creed is based on Hebrews 1 3 Then I seen Creed Hebrews 1 3 he is the character of the who pasta see us the nature of God the
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Father identical nature So there are there are three Persons within the one true and living
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God Okay, let's let's press on here. I Think you should be more fair to the movement and not discount us so quickly.
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Well There's nothing original in your arguments here. Everything that you said here was refuted by Christians Almost 2 ,000 years ago.
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Okay, there's nothing original name this. This is the same standard horrifically bad
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Analysis of Scripture based on a Unitarian assumption that your cult is feeding you
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I'm only associated with them because I keep the commandments like Sabbath and clean eating and people just lump me in with them because we
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Have those things in common, but in the judgment, I'll be answering for me not for the Hebrew Roots movement That's scary to me
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Because you know who's gonna be answering for me at the judgment Jesus Christ my surety my
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Savior So you really think keeping commandments like the Sabbath and clean eating?
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Is that gonna get you into heaven and the judgment you'll be answering you'll be answering for yourself
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I want to assure you you will not stand on the judgment You need the shed blood and the righteousness of the
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God -man of the Savior of the world See, this is the thing that's totally missing completely missing from this email.
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I'm wondering what do you even think the gospel is? How can I as a sinner be right with God? By keeping dietary laws by keeping the
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Sabbath. Is that how we do it? We justify ourselves by our own law -keeping It's amazing.
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You see once you have a Jesus who is something less than Yahweh. You have a Jesus that cannot save you What does
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Jesus become then the example? he just sets a good example and we follow his example and we we keep the
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Passover and we go back to Old Testament types and shadows and Hopefully by keeping those commands, you know
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Hopefully we can I guess sort of tip the balance in our favor and end up in heaven See all heretical forms of Christianity.
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They're all the same I mean whether you call it monophysitism where you call it eutychianism, apollinarianism,
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Sabellianism, modalism, this this stuff It's all the same. It's always a false gospel
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It's always how do you get to heaven by keeping the Old Testament dietary laws or the Sabbath or or whatever?
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How are you made right with God? Well, you don't have a Jesus that can save you You see the scriptures teach us to watch out for this to watch out for false
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Jesus's. Okay, listen to what scripture says Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 11 3
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But I fear lest somehow as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness So your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ for if he who comes preaches
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Another Jesus whom we have not preached or if you receive a different spirit Which you have not received or a different gospel, which you have not accepted.
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You may well put up with it There are other Jesus's. Yeah, there's the
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Jesus of the Sabellians who is From God and Similar to God but not
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God not God. He's like the Jehovah's Witnesses say the Archangel Michael There's the
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Jesus of the Jehovah's Witnesses one God among many gods One God among many gods. There's the
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Jesus of the Unitarian Universalist who is just a really really really really really nice guy Who taught people to be nice and be moral?
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There's the Jesus of the mind science cults who is an advanced medium There's a
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Jesus of the Sabellians who is Just a representative. He's he's he's from God, but not
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God. I need to she's not part of some mysterious Three and one or something like that.
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I mean we've heard all this before it's just old recycled heresy Okay sad stuff
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Okay To do all right
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To say All right. He says you have made Christ your idol Exactly how the ancient
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Israelites made the bronze snake their idol during King Hezekiah's reign Christ even said the
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Son of Man will be lifted up like the snake in the wilderness Huh?
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The point is lifted up on the cross. That's what he's talking about in John chapter 3 when he says that to Nicodemus Okay, he's not saying
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I'll be lifted up like an idol. What are you saying? I mean, what what do you say? Are you saying Jesus is predicting how people are gonna like idolize him or something?
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That's not exegesis That is a twisting of our Lord's words there of my Lord's words there in John chapter 3
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That's that's horrendous. And now you just like wicked Israel have need of a king like Hezekiah a king to destroy your idolatry
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Wow okay, so that's uh, that's about the That's that that's the end of the of the email
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Okay, so let's uh, let's look at the biblical text here a little bit and look at what it teaches about the deity of our
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Lord and Savior Jesus Christ one of the things that we have to lay the groundwork for first here when it comes to the blessed doctrine of the
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Trinity is that There's only one true God a few things are clearer in the
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Old Testament Deuteronomy 435 to you it was shown that you might know that the Lord himself is
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God. There is none other besides him Excuse me Deuteronomy 6 for here
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Israel the Lord our God the Lord is one Isaiah 43 10 you are my witnesses says the
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Lord and my servant whom I have chosen that you may know and believe me Understand that I am he before me. There was no
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God formed nor shall there be after me Isaiah 44 6 thus says the
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Lord the King of Israel and his Redeemer Yahweh Taba oath the Lord of Hosts.
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I am the first and I am the last I am the first and I am the last
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You know, there's someone else someone else said that about themselves. That would be Jesus in Revelation 117
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And that was that was Yahweh there in Isaiah 44 6 thus says
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Yahweh King of Israel and his Redeemer Yahweh Taba oath the Lord of Hosts I am the first and I am the last besides me there is no
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God a Revelation 117 when I saw him Jesus I fell at his feet is dead
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But he laid his right hand on me saying to me do not be afraid. I am the first and the last
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Thus says Yahweh. I am the first and I am the last Jesus says I am the first and I am the last He's appending a divine title to himself
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This is one of hundreds of passages that force us to the conclusion
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Within the nature of the one true God, there are three co -equal co -eternal persons They they they are all said to be worshipped.
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They are all said to have created the universe all three are co -powerful co -glorious
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That's all we believe it. It's right there in the text of Scripture But once you've abandoned soul scripture and have embraced an external authority, whatever this cult is that you've gotten into What the
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Bible says is irrelevant, but the Bible says will have no effect on you whatsoever. I assure you Isaiah 45 5
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I am Yahweh. There is no other there is no God besides me. I will gird you though. You have not known me
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That they may know from the rising of the Sun to its setting that there is no none besides me
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I am Yahweh and there is no other Okay here now you said that We've made
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Jesus Into our idol. Look listen, listen, you said you have made
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Christ your idol Exactly how the ancient Israelites made the bronze snake their idol okay, um, listen to a
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Thomas after he sees the resurrected Christ. Okay, listen, listen to the the text of Scripture You know, you you sound like you you claim to know
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Greek. So I'll go ahead and read it to you in Greek Apocrypha a Thomas. Hi a pin out.
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Oh, ha kuria smoo. Hi. Hatha smoo and Thomas answered and said to him
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Ha kuria smoo. My lord, you know what kuria says? Kuria is the Greek translation of the word
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Yahweh in the Greek septuagint Ha kuria smoo my lord
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Hi, hatha smoo and my god So Thomas worshiped
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Jesus as Jehovah as Yahweh Ha kuria smoo.
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Hi. Hatha smoo. My lord and my god now. Well, he's making Jesus into an idol
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What would you expect Jesus to say here? No, no, no, no. No, you're you've got it all wrong. I'm not y 'all
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Hey, I'm not God. What are you talking about? Thomas stand up on your feet you worship God you worship
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Yahweh He's the only God because we have to assume Unitarianism He doesn't what does
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Jesus do he congratulates him Jesus said to him because you have seen me have you believed blessed are they who did not see and yet Believed Thomas worshipped
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Jesus as Yahweh Ha kuria smoo. Hi. Hatha smoo.
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My lord and my god He called him Okay a few more passages here
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We can go on and on and on and on from the Old Testament God, there's only one true God Yahweh is that God, okay?
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There are three persons. However within the nature of the one true God the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit Matthew 3 16 and 17 there you have the entire
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Trinity in view at the baptism of Jesus And when he had been baptized Jesus came up immediately from the water and behold the heavens were opened to him and he saw the spirit
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Of God descending like a dove and alighting upon him and suddenly a voice came from heaven This is my beloved
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Son and whom I am well, please you have all three persons right there Matthew 11 27 all things have been delivered to me by my father and no one knows the
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Son except the Father Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal him
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Okay, and on and on we could go here, etc Alright, let's look at some clear passages
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About the deity of Jesus Christ himself. All right Colossians 2 9 I'd be fascinated to hear your exegesis of Colossians 2 9
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Okay for in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form for in Christ All the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form.
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What was it? You said? Oh, it just means he's from God He just came from God All the fullness of deity a top play
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Roma tastes they are TATAS somaticos all the fullness pawn top play
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Roma all the fullness tastes they are TATAS of the Godhead of deity that's what they are
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TATAS means divine nature deity somaticos dwells in bodily form
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How you gonna exegete that one well because we assume Unitarianism so it's not allowed to mean that right
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Is that is that the way we do this? Okay, look at Hebrews 1 Hebrews 1 1 2 and 3 another key key passage
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God after many After he spoke long ago to the fathers and the prophets In many portions and in many ways and these last days have spoken to us and his son whom he appointed heir of all things
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Through whom also he made the world and he is the radiance of his glory and the exact representation of his nature
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Okay at our gossam. I taste Doc's ace Kai karak tear tastes who pasta ceos al to the exact Representation of his nature.
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That's what who pasta ceos means. What does the pasta ceos mean? I just means he's from God Who pasta ceos who pasta ceos means?
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substance nature What is Jesus? He is the nature of God Not that he's like God similar to God from God.
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He is God is God the carakter tastes who pasta ceos al to It's right there black ink on white paper
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Unless you have a presupposition that says Unitarianism must be true. Jesus can't be
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God. He can't he can't be I Wonder do you pray to Jesus? Do you pray to Jesus?
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Do you pray to him? Stephen did And they went on stoning
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Stephen as he called on the Lord and said Lord Jesus received my spirit. Do you pray to Jesus?
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I do Stephen did Do you? I've never met a
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Modalist that did because I don't supposed to pray to Yahweh. You only worship Yahweh and Yahweh is only the father
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But Jesus is Yahweh Thomas worshipped him as my lord and my god
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Koryasmu kaihathayasmu my lord and my god not my representative of God my
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Guy that came from God representing him so closely that he can even bear these titles, but it doesn't really mean that I mean
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Those are the kinds of arguments that have been used for centuries and they're just as bogus and fallacious now as they've ever been
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There's another a good one Titus 2 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great
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God and Savior Jesus Christ That's what's called the Granville sharp construction the
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Granville sharp construction great God and Savior substantive
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Kai substantive Yeah article goes substantive Kai substantive they refer to the same person
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God and Savior now for the longest time modalists like yourself would say no no no
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God means the father and Savior is Jesus Christ No, God and Savior to Megalo.
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They you Kai Soteros. Hey moan. Yes, who Christ do? the great God and Savior Jesus Christ both of those both of those refer to yes, who
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Christ do God and Savior Do you call him that? Do you call him
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God and Savior? Let's see John 12 39
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John 12 39 is another one. That's a real problem for our modalist friends
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John 12 39 for this reason they could not believe for Isaiah said again Verse 40 he has blinded their eyes and he hardened their heart so that they would not see with their eyes and Proceed with their heart and be converted and I heal them
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These things Isaiah said because he saw his glory and spoke of him
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Hmm Okay, Isaiah chapter 6 Isaiah chapter 6 that's what
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I that's what John 12 41 is referring to here Isaiah chapter 6 Is Isaiah's vision of Yahweh high and lifted up in the temple?
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Yeah, Yahweh in the year of King Uzziah's death I saw Yahweh I saw the Lord Sitting high high and lifted up.
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I don't I the Lord. I don't know. It's not Yahweh there It's I don't know high and lifted up and his robe filled the train of the temple
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Seraphim stood above him each having six wings with two. He covered his face with two. He covered his feet with two he flew and then you have the holy, holy holy is
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The Lord of hosts and there you have not I don't I but Yahweh Yahweh and saw the oath the
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Lord of hosts the whole earth is full of his glory and John chapter 12 says Isaiah was talking about Jesus He saw
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Jesus's glory Because Jesus is Yahweh Now that doesn't mean we think
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Jesus is the Father or that he is the Spirit. There are three subsistences.
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There are three persons Co -equal co -powerful co -eternal each of whom is called
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God each of whom is worshipped Each of whom is attributed with the creation of the universe another passage
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Colossians chapter 1 16 here's one that's real important for by him all things were created
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But Jesus Christ by him by him all things were created Not well, he's the
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He's the agent through whom God God made things because the term
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DIA is used that means through but here it's it's a by him Who created the universe who created all things in heaven and earth?
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Visible invisible thrones dominions rulers or authorities all things have been created through him and for him by him
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All things are created Jesus Christ but what is what is What is Genesis 1 1 say in the beginning
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God created the heavens and the earth but here Jesus Created the heavens and the earth and everything in it
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Because Jesus is Yahweh now immediately thinking well, you're saying Jesus is the
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Father. No, we're not We're not we're saying there are three persons each of whom is given divine titles
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Each of whom is said to have done what only God can do each of whom is worshipped each of whom is called
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God Each of whom is called Lord That's why
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Christians have always believed these things On and on a see
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Hebrews chapter 1 verse 8 but to the Sun He says and then verse 10 you
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Yahweh in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth. How do you deal with that one? to the
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Sun He says we asked the Sun to the Sun. He says you
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Yahweh in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth I thought you said there's only one
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God and that's Yahweh and that's not Jesus You made Jesus into an idol, but the Bible keeps calling him Yahweh Yahweh because he is
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Yahweh He is all three of them have that title all three persons have that title and yet there's only one true
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God verse 11 of Hebrews 1 They will perish but you remain and they will all grow old like a garment like a cloak you fold them up and they will
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Be changed but you are the same and your years will not fail Look listen to verse 10 again of Hebrews 1
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You Lord in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of your hands that is said to God the
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Son Because he is Yahweh Over and over and over and over and over again
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Divine titles reserved for Yahweh are given to Jesus Christ How can that be if your theology is correct it's cuz it's not correct and Not only have you destroyed the
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Godhead. Not only have you destroyed the biblical Christian doctrine of God you have no gospel
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You have no Savior that can save you from your sins. Now. Now, what do you do? Well, I keep the Sabbath and I I don't eat
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I don't eat Unclean foods I assure you that is going to avail nothing on the
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Day of Judgment You need the blood and righteousness of Jesus Christ Imputed to your legal account or you're going to hell
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You will not be justified on the Day of Judgment You will that that's to me the most frightening thing that you said here and this thing that was forwarded to me here
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I'll be answering for me That's not gonna go well Jesus Christ my surety my legal representative.
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He'll answer for me. Thank God He's the one who died for all my sins he bore the curse in my place
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Galatians 3 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law having become a curse who pair him own in behalf of us and Christ's righteousness much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness
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Romans 5 17 18 and 19 glorious stuff. Therefore having been justified by faith.
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We have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ You're gonna answer for yourself. Hey, I keep the
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Sabbath and clean eating That's not that's that has as much chance of Passing the judgment of God as a spider's web does of stopping an avalanche
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It's not gonna work and you will be sent to hell You will be condemned before the law of God because you've not kept those commandments
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No one has all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified freely
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Doraean freely as a gift by his grace to the redemption that is in Christ Jesus whom
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God set forth as a propitiation the last area on hellas moss Sacrifice to turn away divine wrath
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Do you believe in him? Do you know him? You clearly don't you clearly don't you've turned him into Something less than God you have what
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Paul called Another Jesus a different gospel a different Jesus a different spirit that cannot save you and will not save you
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Will not save you Okay, let's look at a few more Testimonies here to the deity of Christ.
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It's such a glorious truth. I mean we could spent grace. We could spend a lot of time Addressing this issue of the full deity of Christ, you know,
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John 1 1, you know We already looked at that in the beginning was the word the world was with God and cut fast ain't halakha.
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So the word was God Qualitative predicate nominative is describing the quality of the logos
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The logos is divine with the Father is so is the Son by nature and then John 1 14
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Kai halakha Sark's again at ah The word became flesh who was the word again
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Yahweh God Yahweh Who became flesh Yahweh and dwelt among us
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Yahweh? That's why Christian people worship him that's why we pray to him like Stephen did
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I would ask you do you pray to Jesus? Do you pray to him Stephen did?
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Stephen did Christians always have done that Do you can you
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I Would assume you can't because although that's turning him into an idol Was Stephen doing that with the
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New Testament writers doing that clearly not your theology is not biblical and you've been duped even tricked by a cult by an ancient heresy
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John 5 18 Here's here's a passage right here. Let's look at the original language on this one John 5 17 and following this is really where the entire attitude of the
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Pharisees and of Pharisee Judaism completely changes towards Jesus Because he heals the man at the sheep gate there and he did it on the
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Sabbath day. The guy was lame for 38 years 38 years and Jesus told him pick up your mat
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Take up your mat and walk and go home So the guy picks up his mat and of course that the Pharisee you're breaking the Sabbath because they had all sorts of extra regulations
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They added to the simple Sabbath commandment They had turned the Sabbath day into a curse into a day of fear because the people might violate their extra rules
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So the poor guy, you know He's been lame in his legs for 38 years not been able to walk gets up and he walks and the
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Pharisees immediately want to kill Jesus and he says to them in John 5 17
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My father is working until now and I myself I'm working for this reason Therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him because he not only was breaking the
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Sabbath, but also was calling God Theos his own father
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Making himself equal with God making himself equal with God Okay, elegan -tan -theon
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Isan equal ha -al -tan himself po -yon making to -the -o
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Making himself equal with God not not saying I'm a representative of God.
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I came from him I just came from him. Oh, no, no, no, you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that I'm equal with him
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No, they understood exactly what he was saying He was making himself equal with God and that's why they wanted to kill him
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I wonder how would you understand John 5 18? He was making himself equal with God with God the
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Father equal equal equal with him How do you understand that one?
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Can you exegete the passage for us? Can you execute the original language? It sounds like You're either claiming to know the languages or you're pretending that you do.
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I'm not Usually when modalists do this and civilians do this It's just they've memorized a few things they've heard from their false teachers and they just throw them out there because most
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Christians don't know How to respond to them, but I'm not convinced that you know anything about the languages Let's look at one more
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John 8 58 and following Let's look at actually back up a couple verses
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John 8 56 Here you have Jesus arguing with his opponents at the Feast of Tabernacles John 7 8 9 and 10
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You have his trip to Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles and you have a long discourse In John chapter 8 with his opponents there
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Then you have the healing of the man born blind then you have the Good Shepherd Discourse in John 10, but John 8 has a lot of really important stuff in it in terms of claims that Jesus makes about himself
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Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day. He tells them and he saw it and was glad John 8 57 so the
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Jews said to him you are not yet 50 years old. And have you seen Abraham? And listen what Jesus says next
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Jesus said to them truly truly I say to you before Abraham was born.
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I am I Go I me that is a direct translation from the
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Septuagint from Exodus 3 14 when Moses asked Yahweh from the burning bush
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What's your name? Who should I tell the children of Israel sent me What does it say in the
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Greek Old Testament the Greek translation I go I me I am What does
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Jesus say here about who he is? I am Why because he is
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Yahweh? Who was that talking from the burning bush to Moses Jesus Christ the pre -incarnate
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Christ? God the Son now No, no, no, no, that's not that's not what he means.
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That's not what he means But look at the next verse Therefore they picked up stones to throw at him.
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Why would they do that? Because they knew exactly what he just said Jesus is claiming to be Yahweh the one and only true
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God But don't you believe God is three? Yes. Yes But he's claiming to be
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God in the fullest sense of the word. I am They picked up stones to throw at him. Now if your theology was correct,
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Jesus would have to go Stones for no, I didn't mean that I'm not saying that I'm actually
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God No, no, no, no, you misunderstood me, but he doesn't do that. Does he he doesn't correct their misunderstanding
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Because Jesus Christ is God and if you have a Jesus who is something other or something less than Yahweh You have a
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Jesus that can't save you. I noticed in this email. There is not a whisper About the gospel
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There is nothing here about how you as a sinner can be made right with God I guess that's a total mystery because once you have a
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Jesus that's just I just representative He's just he's kind of a new lawgiver the cross doesn't even make any sense.
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I mean, what why did he do that? Well, what's the cross? Um, it makes salvation possible He he he takes away the wrath and stuff so that we can then obey sufficiently to get ourselves into heaven or something like that But the problem is if you have a
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Jesus that's less than God You're not gonna understand the gospel at all. You have a different Jesus a different gospel a different spirit
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You have a Christian faith that is false and you have a gospel that cannot save you and will not save you
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If you believe in a Jesus who is something other than Yahweh in human flesh
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Kai halagas sarx agenata and the word became flesh who is the word kai theos ein halagas
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God Qualitative predicate nominative the identical nature the the who pasta ceos taste correct air the
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Exact nature of the Father. That's why we believe in the Trinity. The scriptures give us no options
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There are clearly three divine persons three in the one true God It's not some mysterious three -headed
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God and that's just demagoguery that that's just rhetoric without meaning It's just believing what scripture says you need a divine
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Savior if you don't have a divine Savior You have a Jesus that is a different Jesus. Just like Paul said there are tons of Jesus's out there
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There's tons of false. Jesus is out there If you have a Jesus that's less than Yahweh You have a
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Jesus that cannot and will not save you from your sins at the last day. I assure you
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Okay. All right. Let's see. Is there anything else? I mean, there's really nothing else in the
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Yeah email, let me just read one little anecdote I have that in my sermon manuscript here from a while back
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I preached on the deity of Christ In that passage in 2nd Corinthians 11 key text verses 3 through 6
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I hope that you'll open your Bible and read that and recognize you've been given a false Jesus You've been given a
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Jesus that cannot save you and will not save you because he doesn't exist Paul says for a few comes preaches another
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Jesus whom we have not preached Which is what you've been taught in this call of this Hebrew root stuff or if you receive a different spirit, which you have not received or a different gospel, which you have not accepted you may well put up with it and Paul's point is don't put up with it
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Believe in the Jesus that we preached to you. We have to be aware
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That there are other Gospels other spirits and other Jesus's out there that which which mimic
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Christianity the words Gospel spirit Jesus grace salvation
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God. They really don't mean much unless they're defined Biblically, and so we must hold fast to the biblical teaching on these matters and always be going back to Scripture I remember
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Walter Martin telling the story of Doing a lecture on Mormonism where a number of Mormons were present and during the question -and -answer session that followed a
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Mormon woman Stood up and said to dr. Martin with a bunch of passion sir. I believe in Jesus Christ as my
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Savior To which Martin said which Jesus? And she said what do you mean which
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Jesus? Martin said there's lots of Jesus's out there, ma 'am. There's a
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Jesus of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Who's the Archangel Michael? There's a Jesus of the Unitarians who was just a very good man
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There's the Jesus of the Theosophist who is an advanced medium And then there's the Jesus of the Mormons one
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God among many gods the offspring of Adam God and the Virgin Mary the spirit brother of Lucifer who became the devil and Then there's the
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Jesus of the Sabellians. There's the Jesus of the Motilis the Jesus of the Hebrew Roots movement
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What is he? I don't know. It's just a representative of God and some some kind of lesser lesser something
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Well, whatever you think he is. You just can't believe he's God, which is what the Bible teaches and that's the way
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Satan works If Satan can get you to embrace a Jesus who is something less than God He has secured the damnation of your soul because you have a
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Jesus that can't save you and from the looks of this Email, you're not even looking to Jesus to save you anyway
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What are you looking to to save you at the last day? God is a holy God He's going to judge you by the standard of his ten commandments
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Those commandments do not allow any room for failure whatsoever all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God all have sinned and fall short
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We know that whatever the law says that says to those who are under the law that every mouth may be shut and all the
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World become guilty before God Romans 3 19 therefore by the deeds of the law Therefore by keeping dietary laws
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Therefore by trying to keep the Sabbath, no flesh will be justified in the sight rather through the law.
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We become conscious of sin but now The dikaya soon a tooth a you the righteousness of God apart from the law has been revealed
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It is a gift of righteousness We receive it by faith alone in Christ alone for by grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves
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It is the gift of God not by works lest anyone should boast For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works
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Which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them Ephesians 2 8 through 10. What a beautiful passage great passage
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Not by works us anyone should boast Not by keeping dietary laws so that no one's can boast not by keeping the
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Sabbath or trying to keep this up not by keeping the Passover or the Feast of Tabernacles or Any anything else lest anyone should boast
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It is the grace of God alone and it's faith alone in Christ alone
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Romans 3 28 therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith chorus apart from Obedience to law apart from the works of the law apart from deeds of righteousness
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The only righteousness that can avail before God on the Day of Judgment is that righteousness that was achieved and performed by Jesus Christ in Jesus Christ Alone and the only
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Jesus that can save you is the Jesus who is God the Son Yahweh in human flesh
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And I truly hope that you'll repent of these gross errors and come to know him as your
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Savior This is pastor
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Patrick Hines of brittle Heights Presbyterian Church located at 108 brittle Heights Road in Kingsport, Tennessee And you've been listening to the
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