Get rich or preach trying

Open Air Theology and the Show’s Theme Song

You can say what you want, but you won't around me. Sheep among misfits. A misfit in the trailer park at night. A misprint with the six cents. Been sick ever since my brother died of an O .D. My two cents never made sense.

Either to me or anyone else inside of the sheep fence. My 9th Smith on my right side. Why you staring at your cop dot sign and my John Hancock on the dotted line? Tell me what's the bottom line. The bottom line is I'm not right.

I'm not left, but this elephant won't fight. There's nothing left but the spotlight. Hold my beer, you can find me in the moonlight.

Moonlight.

You can say what you want. You can say what you want, but you won't around me. You can say what you want. You can say what you... I'm whips in the deep end and I can't find my assigned seat to sit in.

My theology don't fit in. Black sheep of the Reformation sheep pen. To the Reformed, I'm just another Baptist baptized again. The bastard child of Anabaptist. Host to child of Reformation society. We don't need your education.

Give me a Bible and a bookshelf of dead men. Cigars, bourbons, and beer cans. Bow ties, tattoos, and bearded men. Making Reformation great again. You can say what you want. You can say what you want, but you won't around me.

You can say what you want. You can say what you want, but you won't around me. No, you won't around me.

Show Introduction and Conference Promotion

Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. Welcome to Open Air Theology. My name is Jeff. I'm one of the pastors at Covenant Reformed Baptist Church. And in case you're wondering, that track that was just playing, my fellow elder, Cal Sunilia, did the music for that track.

I know it's really, really good. He let me hear it, and the words have started coming. So I just want to give him a shout out. So again, this is Open Air Theology. My name is Jeff, and I'm one of the pastors at Covenant Reformed Baptist Church.

And if you haven't heard, I'm going to tell you now, February the 17th through the 19th, we're having a conference, an Open Air Theology conference, at my church that I pastor. And, I mean, if you're not planning on being there, like, are you really Baptist?

I don't know. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to pass it over to my brother, Brayden. Brayden, introduce yourself, brother.

Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's somewhere in the Bible. If you don't show up to this, you're not a Baptist. So you better be there.

You'll at least get your Baptist card pulled.

It will definitely be pulled. That's a fact. And re-invoking it will take a little bit. But no, I'm Pastor Brayden of Valley Baptist Church. It's a blessing to be here tonight with some really, really solid brothers in fellowship, and in unity, and in Christ.

And I also run a YouTube channel called Reformed Ex-Mormon. If you aren't subscribed, are you even Reformed? And that's what I'm going to say. So anyway, it's a blessing to be here with these brothers that I dearly love and sincerely appreciate their fellowship.

So on that note, I'll pass it over to Haps.

Well, what is up, y 'all? This is Pastor Happy with Olive Branch Ministries. And I'm one of the hosts here and also have another show called R &B Studios. And I am so glad I could be here and meet Greg.

And I'm just going to pass it off to Greg. Hi, Greg.

Hey. Again, I'm Greg. And I am the former pastor of Valley Baptist Church. And so Brayden and I are good friends. And I would say, you know, brothers in a foxhole. They're in southern Idaho, as we've done plenty of evangelism out on the streets together.

I'm currently I live in Florida. I am a member of First Baptist Church of Coleman of Florida. We are a 1689 fellowship, which is a unicorn, to say the least, not only in the United States, but especially in the free state of Florida.

So I am glad to be on here once again with these brothers who and get a chance to meet Haps other than being on Facebook.

Yeah, well, it's good to have you on. Again, I know we've extended the invitation to you. We enjoy your fellowship online. We enjoy your fellowship with us on this podcast. Is it really a podcast, though?

Like I told someone that we had a podcast, and once I said we're on YouTube, I was like, well, that's, you know, it's not really a podcast, right?

It's a show.

Yeah, I mean, it's a show. Yeah, so we just start calling it a show, the Open Earth Theology Show, right?

Yeah.

Like I know some people call it vlogging, but I don't think they really took off. Like vlog cast?

I'm a vlog cast? I'm a vlogger. I'm a vlogger.

Prosperity Preaching as a False Gospel

So if you haven't noticed, so our show, this show tonight, it's called Get Rich or Preach Trying, and we want to talk about the dangers of the prosperity movement. Now, this is something that Braden reached out, you know, he wanted to talk about, and so that's what we're going to attempt tonight.

And I also want to say that in doing so tonight, we're not, like what do you call them guys, like this is just what they do. You know, they go and they find heretics.

Heresy hunting?

Heresy hunting. Okay, so this is not what this show is. We're not heresy hunting, but we do want to talk about, you know, this issue because it's an issue that I was, you know, that impacted me whenever I first became a Christian.

And so I don't know the order, Braden, that you want to go in.

Yeah, so what I was thinking is that I'm sure that we all have our unique perspectives of the prosperity gospel movement, right? I think we all get general ideas and definitions of it, and I'm sure that our definitions would be essentially the same, and I'm assuming we'd pull from scripture the same and all that kind of stuff.

And so, which is fine, if that happens, that's totally okay. But my thinking on it was that every one of us probably have a unique perspective, whether we've dealt with it inside our local bodies, whether we see it across the corner on another street from us, or we've seen it in a large scale in different ways.

I'm sure we've seen the prosperity gospel affect us in different ways. And so what I was really hoping for tonight was giving each one of us seven to nine minutes, somewhere in that general area, since there's four of us, just to kind of talk through those experiences.

And so I was thinking I would go last, just since I was the one that brought the topic up. But I would say maybe we just start Jeff going first. I got to figure out how to point at this because it's backwards for me.

Greg, you go second, Apps, you go third, and then I can go fourth. Yeah, right?

It's almost like the Brady Bunch. It's almost like the Brady Bunch. Yeah, there you go.

But yeah, no, that was kind of what I was thinking. And none of us hold to the prosperity gospel, praise God. We're within orthodoxy. And so, yeah.

So I can't get rich or preach trying?

You probably shouldn't be. Let's just put it like that. But yeah, I figured we could all give a little bit of a definition of what it is, some scriptural, and then our experiences with it. So on that note, Jeff, if you want to just kick things off, and if it goes over nine minutes, I don't think any of us are too concerned about that.

Galatians 1 and the Difference Between the Gospel and a False Message

Yeah, I definitely want to keep it under ten minutes. Yeah, so with me, when it comes to this issue of the prosperity movement, so some of y 'all probably know, I've said this before, so I originally was ordained in the Pentecostal movements, the Churches of God, Assemblies of God, Trinitarian Pentecostal movements.

And this prosperity preaching was definitely alive, kicking, screaming in those circles, right? Now, it's definitely something that has impacted me. But before I get into my personal experience, I definitely want to go to the text.

And so, just so you understand where I'm coming from, I want to look at Galatians 1, verses 6 and 7.

Yeah.

And it says, I am not ashamed.

No, no, no.

That's a good text, too. We could read that one.

Yeah.

I actually had it on here, but I don't know why I was quoting it. I'm looking at this and quoting it. I'm not ashamed of the gospel, which I'm not.

We can go to Romans 1.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Galatians, Galatians, not Romans, Galatians, beginning in verse 6, it says, I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

Now, verse 7 tells you, not that there is another one, but there are some who would trouble you and want you, and want to desort the gospel of Christ. Now, notice there wasn't another gospel. Like he says that you're turning to a different gospel, but not that there is one.

The prosperity movement is not a gospel. If you have to give to receive a blessing, that's not good news. The good news is that we—the good news comes off of the heels of bad news. We broke God's law, bad news.

We deserve punishment. Good news, God paid our fine by sending his son, Jesus Christ. Jesus is the propitiation. God paid our fine by sending his son to live the life that we could not live and to take the punishment that we deserve.

That's the good news. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures. He was buried, and he rose on the third day, and he ascended into the heaven, and he sits at the Father's side ruling in rain and putting all of his enemies under his feet.

That is the gospel. That's the good news. Giving money in order to be blessed, that's not good news. That's not good news. That is not a gospel. There's no such thing as a prosperity gospel. There's only false teachers, just as we see in the book of Galatians.

There wasn't another gospel. Getting circumcised was not another gospel, but there were false teachers. And so it's the same thing that we see going on in our churches today when it comes to the prosperity movement.

There's not another gospel. There's no such thing as a prosperity gospel. That's not good news, but there's false teachers who are peddling like pimps. This false message, if you give me money, the Lord will bless you.

Now, just to give you some of my experience. So when I became a Christian, again, this was before YouTube or at least before I knew YouTube, right? And so TBN was on my TV constantly. I'm wanting to learn about Christianity.

I discipled myself through Perry Stone. Yeah, true story. I listened to all of his manifest programs. I had all of his books. Loved them, loved them. And I was a part of a church, the church that I went to.

I mean, like they would have you to walk up and take your money, throw it on the floor, and the pastor would come over and buck dance on it, putting the seed into the ground. There was one time where the plate was passed.

The preacher got up there and was speaking. And all of a sudden, the deacon walks up, whispers in his ear, and the pastor stops preaching. And he says, lock those doors. Pass those plates again. You are going to give.

And there was a time where I forgot to give. I asked the pastor, I said, hey, where's the plate at? I forgot to put my money. He said, oh, it's over there. Go get your blessing. There was a man by the name of Peter Popoff.

I think that's how you say his name.

Yes, it is.

Yeah, well, when I first became a Christian, I was listening to him, and I bought into it. I asked for whatever he had to be sent to me. And now I'm saying this because I want you to know that this power and evil, okay, evil is a power, right?

I mean, there's power in witchcraft. It's not good power, but there's power in witchcraft. Well, Peter Popoff was writing me, and I was writing him back. And in one of his letters, he said if I would give him $100, that I would receive $1 ,700.

So I thought that was a good deal, right? I gave him $100. Well, a couple weeks, you know, I had scored a roof job from someone that I used to go to church with. And the final cost of that roof was going to be $1 ,400.

They owe me $1 ,400 after putting this roof on. When I received the check, the check was for $1 ,700. There's power in this movement, okay? Well, little did I know that I knew someone else that was writing and receiving letters from Peter Popoff.

And I had just received the letter, again, asking for more money. And I walked into his house, and I saw that he had received a letter. And so I said, hey, can I read your letter? He said, yeah. It was the same letter, same words, same everything that he wrote to me.

I mean, same everything. And then I wrote him and said, look. And I sent both letters to him. I said, don't write me again. Well, he wrote me again. Again, this was me. I'm a young Christian. You know what I'm saying?

I still got some flesh in me. And I wrote him back. I said, look, punk, you write me another letter, I'm going to come to one of your meetings, and I'm going to punch you in the face. Don't write me again.

He never wrote me again. He didn't write me again. I say that because there's power in that movement. It's not the right power. It's not good power. It's like Ouija board power, right? It's like the occult, witchcraft.

There's power in that stuff, but it's not good power. It's not good power, right? We want our lives to be filled with God's presence. We don't want our lives to be filled around evil entities. And this prosperity movement, it's an evil entity.

Yes.

All it is is it's after your money. It's only after your money. Now, with that said, I do want to say that we are to give money to the church.

Right.

But not to receive a blessing. A church building has rent. There's lights. There's things that in the building, if you want to be able to meet in a building, there's things that have to be paid. Rent has to be paid.

Lights have to be paid. Water has to be paid.

All right.

But then there's also mission work, right? You want to be a church that's doing stuff in your own neighborhood, but also you want to be a church that's giving money overseas to support missionaries. Well, you can't do that if you're not giving money.

But you need to understand that you don't give money to be a blessing. You give money to bless. And also I want to say when it comes to giving your money that not only in your light bill, I mean, in paying the light bills and paying rent and in paying, you know, so that the people in your area will hear the gospel or that people across the seas will hear the gospel.

But also the Bible tells us in First Timothy, chapter five, beginning in verse 17, let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching right here.

It says for the scripture says you shall not muzzle the ox when it treads out the grain and the labor deserves his wages. Now, pastoring the last two years and having to work full time has really been been tough.

Right.

And I understand this because pastoring, it's a job. It's a hard job. Right. Laboring with the messages, you know, like like I put in, I don't know how many hours a week I put in to study in the Bible.

When I stand up before the congregation to to to to give the word. Right. I truly understand that this is a job. And then you have to deal with the congregation and not that that's a bad thing. Right.

But you have to be there for your congregation. Pastoring is I hate to use the word a job, but the labor is worthy of his wage. So I believe that your pastor, like if whatever your church is, your pastor.

You not only give to to pay the rent, you not only give to to pay the bills, you don't give to receive a blessing, but you give to bless. And in that your pastor needs that blessing because he is working.

If your pastor is preaching, 45 minute sermons are better if he's in the that that Bible study. And if he's having to deal with your butt, trust me, he's a he's a labor worthy of his wage. And not only that, when you look into the book of Hebrews, chapter 13, chapter 13, it says to remember your leaders.

Is this to share what you have with them and to obey them? If your leader is preaching and teaching the word of God, you are to share what you have with them. But and that is not for you to get a blessing, but that is for you to be a blessing.

So why do we give. To bless people, not listen, not to receive a blessing. If that's what you're doing it for, you're worshiping an idol. You're worshiping an idol. I'm done. Amen.

Drop Mike right there. Mike drop. That's how you say that. Greg, it's your turn, brother. Go ahead and drop.

Jeremiah, False Prophets, and the Abuse of God’s Sheep

All right. Ten minutes. All right. So here we go. All right. I want to I want to actually start from the Old Testament, from the prophet Jeremiah. You know, an actual prophet, not these self aggrandized ones.

So here in Jeremiah 23, I'm going to I'm not going to read the whole chapter, but I'm going to read verses 1 through 2, 1 and 2, 25 through 27 and 30 through 32. So here here what it says. This is the Lord speaking, says, Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture, declares Yahweh.

Therefore, thus says Yahweh, the God of Israel, concerning the shepherds who are shepherding my people. You have scattered my flock and banished them and have not attended to them, but to attend to you for the evil of your deeds.

Skipping at 25 through 27. I have heard what the prophets have said, who prophesy a lie in my name, saying I had a dream. I had a dream. How long is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy a lie?

Even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make my people forget my name by their dreams, which they recount to one another just as their fathers forgot my name because of Baal.

And then 30 through 32 says, therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, declares Yahweh, who steal my words from each other. Behold, I am against the prophets, declares Yahweh, who take their tongues and declare.

Yahweh declares, behold, I am against those who have prophesied lying dreams, declares Yahweh, and who recounted them by their lying and reckless boasting. Yet I did not send them and I did not command them, and they did not furnish this people the slightest benefit, declares Yahweh.

I could end it there. But I mean, because this goes for any false prophets, any of those who take upon themselves the name of the Lord, who take upon themselves the mantle of prophet. God's got a beef, period.

And if God's got a beef, I've got a beef. If you've got, because here's the thing. It's like I really genuinely have problems with the prosperity gospel. I'm from the South.

Okay.

The prosperity gospel is rampant throughout the South. It's especially rampant here in Florida. If you're familiar with like the stuff that came after the like the Toronto blessing and all this other stuff, the Lakeland revival is one of the things, one of the big shenanigans.

Lakeland is like the county South of us or one of the counties just like South of us. We're like connected to the county that Lakeland is in. So this hits home pretty close for me. Like I mean, this is very close to home for me.

And my troubles with it is like one of the things that really bothers me about it is it's bastardization of the scriptures.

Okay.

I am one who I do believe that the idea of the tithe is something that carries on into the new covenant. We can have that discussion, whatever, but that's where I go. And Malachi does tell me to bring all the tithe into the storehouse.

And the Lord himself says, test me in this and see if I won't pour out a blessing.

Okay.

God says to do that. And what do these people do? They take the scriptures and they bastardize it. They attack it. They assault it. And they twist it like their daddy, the devil. Where God says the only time he tells us to test him in something, to see if he won't be faithful.

They take it and they go as one of these shepherds that God decries and they twist it. I have a grave problem with that. I will take Nicholas and punch him in the face. Or Jeff and Peter Popoff.

I would have.

I wouldn't let him blink and watch. The prosperity gospel, the biggest thing is, again, it twists the scriptures. We look at what Malachi says about bringing the tithe into the storehouse. It twists that.

If we look to James 5, 14 and 15, where it tells us that if a man is sick, that he's to go to the elders of the church and they are to anoint him. And they are to pray. God says to do it.

Right?

God told us to do that sort of thing. And yet, how many of us in the reformed circles, let alone evangelical circles, and particularly the reformed Baptist circles, are going to look at James 5, 14 to 15 and go, that seems too charismatic.

Not me.

I keep all in my pocket.

We're not talking just for your beard, dude. But the thing is, how many people even stop because of these prosperity preachers, because of what they've done? Or we look at Isaiah 53, 5 or 1 Peter 2, 24.

1 Peter 2, 24 in particular. How often have you heard, by his stripes we are healed? Praise God. It's what the word says.

Right?

It says, by his stripes we are healed. But then if we look at the context, the full context of 1 Peter 2, 24, it says, who himself, because we're being told to follow in his steps, following Christ's steps.

Who himself, verse 24, who himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that you, having died to sin, we might live to righteousness. By his wounds you are healed. The obvious thing is that what you've been healed from is sin.

And yet, and you know what? And there is something to be said, that yes, there will be healing from our illness. There will be healing from our sickness and from all the things. But the good chance is, it ain't in this life.

We, but we do have a resurrection. And so there's, there is a belittling of the scriptures. There's a belittling of God's promises. There's a belittling and bastardization of God's, you know, what his word has said.

And, you know, those, you know, us good cessationists have said, ooh, we don't want to stay away from that because we don't want to be seen too crazy. When in fact, it's really stupid because God has spoken and we should obey and we should hear him.

But then, then the issue, other issues that I've got with this, that with the prosperity gospel, and this is men, not just Peter Popoff. He's, I mean, he, you know, Peter Popoff, Mike Murdoch, the guys like that, the TBNers are, you know, that's the easy game because they're so ridiculous.

But what about men like Stephen Furtick? What about TD Jakes? I mean, he's, he's big name. Oh, you know, what about, you know, I know it was this Greg Locke guy that we see, you know, people like this that, you know, get real popular.

I mean, I've had issues where somebody like Stephen Furtick, I had this in a, in a place that I serve. You speak out against Steve, you know, against the Furtie and people freak the heck out. Nevermind the fact that he's in favor of a man like TD Jakes, a, you know, a blasted modalist, you know, a heretic, damn to hell.

And says, this is my guy. But here's the issues. Like here, here's some issues. Not only do they, not only does God warn us against this. I mean, Jeremiah, we see that. I mean, God is very explicit about this.

And not only do they twist the scriptures, which alone is bad enough, but think of, you know, God's problem with them that we saw there in Jeremiah 23. Is what they do to God's sheep. Jesus doesn't take kindly to this.

I do believe that there are believers that are caught up in this trash. That they are ignorant and that they are being wrung dry because of this. And we have seen what the Lord God omnipotent has had to say about that.

Because these people, they give false promises of wealth. Nevermind that Jesus said in Matthew 8, 20, you know, the foxes have holes, the birds of the sky have nests, but the son of man has nowhere to lay his head.

They have false promises of health. Nevermind the fact that, you know, Jesus was crucified. And then we've also see 2 Corinthians 12, 7 through 10, 1 Timothy 5, 23, Galatians 6, 11. You have examples where the apostle Paul was getting murked all over the place.

That, you know, he had his issues with his sight. And so, you know, and if it was just, you know, name it and claim it. If that was all that the problems were. But that's not it. It is usually anti-Trinitarian.

You know, it's, and there's so many, there's just so much that's involved in it. So, you know, the troubles are that it teaches falsely. It points away from the Word of God because you're wanting to seek a new fresh revelation from God.

And the thing is, is the prosperity gospel is so rampant. We don't, it's embedded everywhere. When Lifeway existed as a standalone store, it was very easy to walk in there. And you would see Sarah Young's Jesus Calling.

That's prosperity stuff.

Okay.

Because you're trying to get a fresh word from God when He's given you a book that you're not even reading. And then not only, like here's another problem. Like one thing that just bugs the heck out of me.

I understand you're about 3 minutes over.

Oh, I'm sorry. I appreciate you calling me out there. So, is that it condemns the saint for not having enough faith. When things don't go right, the saint is at problem. You know, is because they just simply didn't have enough faith.

And it's disgusting.

Yeah, when I hear blab it and grab it, I hear regurgitate it and eat it.

Barf it and smurf it.

The Prosperity Gospel as Satanic, Gnostic, and Greedy

Apps, what you got on this topic, brother?

Oh, I got a whole bunch.

I bet you do.

I got a whole bunch. And you know what? You know, let's just really be honest. This is satanic in nature. The reason why this is so dangerous is this goes all the way back to the garden. The lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, the pride of life.

All right. And that's what it goes. And this is why it appeals to the ungenerated man. It's about health and wealth. You know, this is this is what draws them in. Of course, their simple desires are going to draw them in.

And so if they're real true believers in Jesus Christ, then the Lord's not going to keep them in error for that long. Because the Holy Spirit that resides in them is going to lead them out of this and reveal truth to him.

I mean, to them, because that's what Scripture says. So just to give you guys the people out there a little little history on this. This when it was this is an American gospel right here. All right. This is an American gospel.

And it started in the garden. But it really started again. And in the 1880s, there was something that started called New Thought. And it's an accumulated wisdom and philosophy and from like ancient Greek, ancient Roman.

And then, you know, these these it's really a form of Gnosticism. All right. And and then like in the in the 50s and stuff like that, you had all the healing revivals that were going on here in the United States.

Then they from the 60s to the 80s, that's when they adopted the name, the Word of Faith movement. And this is when televangelism was really ramping up. And so it really appealed to the ignorant. And and that's and it's it's destructive heresies like the Bible has told us.

And it really appeals to man's sinful nature. Also, it's like a combination of the American gospels were like pragmatism, individualism, you know, more of a man centered instead of God centered, unless it makes you a God.

And so what it what it does is it takes the faith that that has been get that that is a gift of God.

All right.

That is a gift that is given to us by God to to glorify God. And it turns them into like a genie in a bottle. All right. Where Jesus and all of a sudden becomes a slot machine that we just keep putting coins in and it's going to hit.

I'm telling you, it's going to get it's going to hit thinking that that somehow. And what it is, it's legalism. All right. It's actually works based. It's very, very works. It's very damning. It's a damnable heresy.

And it's not Christianity. All right. And let me let me just let me just share a couple scriptures that they appeal to because I deal with this every day. All right. So one of them, I think that, you know, Greg, you hit one of them.

Let's see. Let me go to Jeremiah. Twenty nine.

Eleven.

They always use this one. Always. Always and forever. You know, but this is what they say. Jeremiah. Twenty nine. Eleven. And then this is what this is what happens when when people take Scripture out of context and then they they just believe everything they hear.

Well, the reason why they believe it is because they're not a sheep because they're the sheep knows the shepherd's voice and it goes to them. Another they will not follow. All right. And so anyway, so let me just read it.

Jeremiah. Twenty nine. Eleven. For I know the plans I have for you declares the Lord plans of welfare and not for evil to give you a fortune and a hope. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me and I will hear you.

You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found be found by you declares the Lord and I will restore your fortunes and gather you from the nations in all the places where I have driven you.

Now, a really, really important one that that remember they they they cherry pick the Scriptures. So another really, really important one that they will always get. And if you don't read it in context and understand, listen, this right here, this wasn't written to you.

It was written for you. All right. And that that when it's talking about, like when a lot of these promises were made to national Israel, ethnic Israel, and it was for like land promises or whatnot, you know, because a lot of these people, they want the blessings.

All right. They just don't want the curses, you know. And for us now that are in Christ, there is no more condemnation, you know. And so another one I and I'm just going off the top of my head, Deuteronomy, Deuteronomy 818.

No, I'm just going to I'm just going to. Yeah. Hold on a second. I'm going to start in 17, 817. Beware, lest you say your heart, my power and my might of my hand have gotten me this. Well, you shall remember the Lord your God for it is he who gives you power to get well.

When he may confirm his covenant that you swore to your fathers as as in this day and they'll take that and they will run with it. All right. They'll take that now run with it. And and this is a twist in God's scripture.

And were we warned about this? Yeah, we have out of 27 books in the New Testament, 26 of them speak of this. I mean, directly. Second Peter two one. I mean, like just straight up. I'll just just read it to one through four.