End It: Join Our Team In 2023

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December 27, 2022

To give: https://ean.link/give Join us for this very important live-stream event! We are going to show you what God did through your work together with us! So many have been saved. Unprecedented moments in States across the country. Be a part of our ministry in 2023. We have so many States next quarter. We need you! Please Like and Share.

00:00: Hey everyone, this is Pastor Jeff Durbin with End Abortion Now. For the past seven years, many of you all have stood with us, you have served alongside of us, you've given financially to this ministry that is dedicated to ending one of the greatest injustices of our day, and that's the slaughter of our pre -born neighbors.
00:18: God has blessed us in this ministry, and we're a part of this ministry fundamentally because we're
00:25: Christians. The goal of this ministry is to end abortion in Jesus' name as Christians.
00:32: We wanted to have a ministry in the area of abortion that was focused on Christ, focused on the gospel, and focused on telling the truth to our culture.
00:42: We wanted to do this ministry explicitly as Christians, under the banner of the gospel, with local churches, working together across the
00:50: United States of America and around the world. And that's what God has done. God has allowed us to raise up over 900 local churches, equipped and trained absolutely for free, with no cost to them, to go out to their local abortion mills, to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope to mothers and fathers who are going inside.
01:10: And because of that effort, we have saved tens of thousands of lives. You've been a part of that with us.
01:17: If you've prayed for us, if you've given financially over the last seven years, you've been a part of that effort to raise those churches up.
01:24: Babies are being saved every single day across the United States of America because of your work together with us.
01:30: So I want to first say, from my heart, thank you for being a part of this ministry with us.
01:35: We've also, because of your help with us over all of these years, been able to give the message of the gospel on our media platforms globally in conflict with the issue of abortion.
01:46: It's changed hearts. It's changed minds. We have messages on our platforms of mothers who came across our content, who were on their way to the abortion facility to have their abortion, and now their babies are alive today because of that message.
02:00: We've been able to raise up churches, raise up Christians to speak consistently to their neighbors, to their communities, and to their legislatures in this area of abortion because of the content that you've helped us to build.
02:12: So I want to say thank you again for that. And we've been able, through your help together with us, to have bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization go into states across the
02:24: United States of America. Bills in Arizona, in Texas, in South Carolina, in Louisiana, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado, and there's more coming.
02:33: All of this has happened because you've partnered together with us to end this evil and this great injustice that's perpetrated upon our pre -born neighbors.
02:42: And so thank you for being a part of this with us. As many of you know, the numbers are staggering.
02:49: 60 million plus human beings have been killed in our nation since Roe versus Wade.
02:55: 60 million plus and counting. There's more and more all the time. Now we're thankful that we were able to participate in the amicus brief filed by our constitutional attorney
03:06: Bradley Pierce in the Dobbs case, which ultimately overturned Roe versus Wade. We knew that Roe versus Wade needed to go away.
03:14: It was an injustice, an evil court opinion that the states should have actually resisted. However, that Roe decision was actually in the way of us establishing justice in the states.
03:25: And now that Roe is out of the way, we have almost 10 states committed to putting in bills of abolition in our union in the beginning of next legislative session.
03:37: So we have that happening and Roe is out of the way. I want to just speak to this for a moment. Many, many people believe that essentially this fight is really basically over because Roe is out of the way.
03:48: I want to say that the fight has only just begun. Roe's being overturned has not established justice for the pre -born.
03:54: We are not anywhere close to equal protection. We don't have criminalization in the states across the United States of America where true justice is established for our neighbors.
04:03: And so our fight has really just started. We want to ask you to partner with us in 2023. Once again, we have over 900 churches that are already a part of our network.
04:13: We are adding more all the time. We are producing more content that is changing hearts and changing minds and saving lives.
04:20: You can see those stories at endabortionnow .com. And we have 10 states right now that we are working in to put bills of abolition, equal protection and criminalization in, in the first quarter of next legislative session.
04:33: So we need you to partner with us again in 2023. It is going to be our most important year yet.
04:39: So with the 900 churches and with a new website that actually helps you to partner with us in a much more comprehensive way, we have something special for 2023 and that is that you can go to our new website, endabortionnow .com
04:54: and you can actually click on your state. You can see the churches that are involved in your state that are saving lives, the lives that have been saved.
05:02: You're going to be able to hear those stories. And we've made it easy for Christians across the country to fight this battle with us in your particular state.
05:11: You go to endabortionnow .com, you go to where the states are, you click on the state, you'll be able to see the lives that have been saved and you'll be able to also connect directly to the legislators in your state.
05:23: We have everything already prepared for you. It's a pre -filled out form you can send directly to the legislators in your state.
05:30: We also have a petition you can sign in your state to put on the desks of the people who need to see it.
05:36: We've done all the work for you. We've made it simple so that you can partner with us in your state to establish justice.
05:43: All that is coming in 2023. It's our most important year. We need you to stand with us.
05:49: Since we started this work, this has grown in incredible ways. It is truly the grace of God that has brought us to this place and it is through believers just like you that partnered with us from the very beginning that helped us.
06:04: We're not a massive ministry. We're not huge. We don't have the tens of millions of dollars coming in like the pro -life organizations.
06:11: We are a local church that is equipping and training other local churches to save lives and that is going to legislators across the country and saying we demand justice immediately and abortion now.
06:23: And we've only been able to do this because believers just like you have put your hands in my hands and partnered with me in this ministry with our team to make this happen.
06:32: You've done this with us. So all of the tens of thousands of babies that are alive today are alive because of God's people sacrificing, praying, partnering with us.
06:41: All of the bills that are going in next year to establish justice are happening because believers just like you join together with us financially.
06:50: We need your help. We try as a ministry to stay lean and mean and we try as a ministry to make sure that we're as effective as we can possibly be with the truth and with very little budget that we need.
07:04: And so this year we need a little over a million dollars for the budget for 2023. I'll give you an example.
07:11: In one state last year, Louisiana, that bill itself that was unprecedented and it did a lot of damage.
07:17: That bill was tens of thousands of dollars to put into place and to work. And so God blessed it, but we need your partnership as we do this fight.
07:27: So will you partner with me in 2023? Help us as a ministry, as a church, as Christians to end this injustice in Jesus name.
07:36: We're doing this as Christians. We're doing this because the gospel, we're doing this because we're called to love our neighbors and to lay our lives down for them.
07:43: And we're doing this fundamentally so that we don't have to do it anymore. We don't want to see this regulated.
07:49: We're not starting a business. For us, this isn't an industry, we're a church. We're trying to speak the gospel in this area to overcome it with the light of the gospel.
07:58: And we're trying to wash our hands of it and then walk away from it once justice is established. Will you help us do that?
08:04: Will you join us in 2023 with a donation? Give towards this work. Help us to raise up more churches.
08:10: Help us to save more lives, many more lives, and help us to establish justice at the state level.
08:17: Partner with us in 2023. I want to thank you for all you ever have done, and I want to thank you for what you give in 2023.
08:24: Endabortionnow .com is where you go. Check this site out. You can give there and please participate in all the new features we have there so you can help us in all the states that we're working in to end abortion now.
08:46: Hello, my name is Tim and I am the web manager here at End Abortion Now. I have the absolute joy and pleasure to present to you the new and updated endabortionnow .com.
08:59: I want to show you just a glimpse into what our donors accomplished this last year by showing you some new tools that will impact the way we politically fight to end abortion around the
09:11: United States. At the beginning of 2023, End Abortion Now will be going to be filing 10 state bills of equal protection.
09:21: We will be going to Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Louisiana, Texas, South Dakota, and finally
09:30: Arkansas. That may sound great and all, but why does it really matter?
09:37: Sometimes when we talk about politics, we can really lose sight of what we're actually doing here in trying to end abortion.
09:45: We are saving lives. Let me show you why these new tools will impact the way we approach the mission of ending abortion.
09:53: Let's go to the new interactive map. Now let's go to the state of Georgia since we will be submitting a bill of equal protection there next year.
10:04: Scroll down and there you'll see 114 babies murdered through abortion every single day.
10:15: 114. That means by the end of watching this video, one baby will have died.
10:23: By the time we get to the state of Georgia next year, 10 ,260 babies will have been murdered.
10:29: If you're like me, you want to do something about this, but know nothing about politics.
10:35: This is why we've made it easy through this new tool on endabortionnow .com.
10:43: If you continue to follow me on Georgia's state page, you will see two primary calls to action that you can take.
10:50: Number one, sign the petition. When we submit the bills of equal protection in Georgia and all the other states next year, we want to present a stack of names to the representatives there for political leverage.
11:06: How? Tell them if they do not support the bill, they will have thousands of their voters voting them out.
11:15: It's easy to do. Just go to your state, click on sign the petition.
11:20: It takes no time, no commitment. The second thing we've created is the state page.
11:27: Among state -specific data, you will see a contact your representative button. When you see us in your state next year, and when you get an email from us telling you to contact your representatives, you want to click this button.
11:40: You will see the list of every pro -life politician in your state. You will then systematically email and call each of them.
11:49: Clicking on their names, clicking their email address, copying and pasting the message.
11:56: Then, you can grab your phone and call them. Use the on -screen script to help assist you in that phone call.
12:05: This is what it takes to save the lives of children, like little Dakota. You can read about her on the homepage.
12:11: This is what it takes to save the lives of precious babies like Savaria, Keyshawn, Kingston, Navy, Rosie, River, all the babies on our testimony page.
12:21: These new tools equip us to finally see an end to abortion in these states.
12:28: Using these tools is a means of protecting and giving life to thousands of little children this year, and thousands more to come.
12:35: If you haven't already, please consider helping us end abortion in these states this year.
12:41: The cost is great if we continue to do nothing. It's the price of tens of thousands of babies.
12:49: But, the cost to you right now might be your financial support and handful of phone calls.
12:57: It's worth it. Please join us this year. If you feel led to give, please do so.
13:04: Click on the link somewhere in this video or go visit the new site EndAbortionNow .com.
13:09: As you can see, our donors change lives. God bless you all, and I look forward to see what
13:17: God will do with your support in the following years. You know, when we first started our ministry to bring the gospel to the abortion mills, we saw the need, we knew what scripture said about it, to rescue those who were being led to death.
13:48: And so we thought, well, obviously, this is something the Christian church should do. That's where the Christian church belongs.
13:54: We want to bring the gospel there, tell the truth, especially there, if anywhere.
14:00: So we started building everything up to get out to the abortion mill and to bring a team, to bring the gospel.
14:07: We wanted to make sure we had, you know, people on standby even to adopt children. And we just wanted to save lives and see people come to Christ.
14:16: I mean, I can remember putting up the camera and, you know, live streaming us at the abortion mill so we can show believers that, look, we're saving children's lives.
14:24: We're seeing saves. We're seeing turnaways. We're having gospel conversations. We turned a live stream on, and the comment section was just filled with people who were professing believers.
14:35: Not unbelievers, but professing believers who were saying things like, that's not how you reach those women.
14:42: This isn't the right way to do it. This seems very abrasive. This seems mean -spirited because we were saying,
14:50: When we initially started doing that, it was the beginning of this whole ministry. And so we had fruit.
14:57: We had, you know, babies' lives being saved and us doing baby showers for mothers who turned away from the clinic.
15:03: We didn't have a lot of experience with, well, how do you deal with Christians who are telling you, don't go out into the public square with the truth.
15:11: Don't tell a mother who was minutes away from murdering her child, please don't murder your child.
15:16: The only way these women are going to come to Christ is if we give them the gospel. The only way their babies are going to be saved is if the church is there, you know, standing up for these children.
15:26: And the only way we can actually minister to these women in the long run is if we show up. And so we were surprised.
15:32: We were surprised. What ended up happening was so many babies started being saved from this ministry that we stopped responding to people who were in the comments saying, this is wrong, you shouldn't do it.
15:49: We just started sharing pictures of the babies that have been saved. So somebody would make, you know, a nasty comment.
15:55: We would just share a picture of Olivia Grace and Cara, or we'd share a picture of Carmelo.
16:03: And that would tend to silence them. I don't think it's wrong to say, you know, all right,
16:09: I'm willing to be open to correction. If there's a better way to do this at the abortion mill to bring the gospel and save lives,
16:15: I'm all ears. How many babies have you saved? How many women have you seen turn to Christ through your methodology?
16:23: And the answer was crickets. We have trained up and raised about 900 local churches, mostly across the
16:32: U .S., but also around the world in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland. We've been to Scotland.
16:38: It's happening in Canada, Australia, New Zealand. I mean, really all over. Churches are getting free training and free resources from us to just go out and bring the gospel into this particular area.
16:51: The Bible actually gives us a view into what the Spirit of God was doing within His people, in the public square, with the gospel message.
17:03: We get a picture of the methodology that actually God used to change the world.
17:10: End Abortion Now is a ministry of Apologia Church. It's a local church's ministry to bring the truth of the gospel into conflict with abortion in the public square in every area.
17:22: And so we knew we needed to bring the church to the abortion mill. We needed to bring the gospel there.
17:27: We needed to save lives. We needed to raise churches up. And we needed to teach and speak into the culture through all the media platforms we have to tell them the truth about this issue of abortion and to bring the truth into conflict with error and with darkness in this area.
17:43: And we needed also to bring the truth to legislators who are responsible before God to establish justice and to preserve these lives.
17:52: And it is a very important area for the church to be involved in because the pro -life establishment, the pro -life industry, has sort of been in charge of fighting this battle since the beginning of Roe vs.
18:06: Wade. And the pro -life establishment is explicit. They express it themselves that they are not approaching this as Christians explicitly.
18:15: The head of National Right to Life has said that explicitly, that their organization tries to approach this from a neutral perspective, not as Christians, not with the gospel, not with the call to repentance.
18:28: If the problem of abortion is sin, if it's in fact evil, then the only solution is
18:33: God's word, God's truth and the gospel itself. People aren't going to come to life apart from the words of life.
18:39: And so the pro -life establishment has fought with compromise. They've fought with neutrality.
18:46: And the result has been over 62 million dead babies. The result has been in states across the union, bills of partiality, unequal weights and measures.
18:57: I mean, the pro -life establishment actually promoting and advocating for and accepting bills that say you can kill these humans, but not these humans.
19:07: Things that God hates. He says unequal weights and measures are an abomination to him.
19:14: We've been able to get bills of equal protection. Equal protection from conception.
19:19: All human life begins at conception. It's in the very image of God. And all human life deserves equal protection.
19:25: We've been able to get those kinds of bills into legislatures across the country. From Oklahoma to Arizona to Texas to South Carolina to Philadelphia to Ohio to Louisiana.
19:35: The problem has been that the pro -life establishment has been the major force fighting against these bills.
19:43: We've been getting bills into legislatures and they've been able to stop them from even getting hearings.
19:49: We haven't been able to get them past the hearing stage until Louisiana.
19:56: What happened in Louisiana was unprecedented. It was historic. In Louisiana, we were able to get a bill into not only the hearing, but also onto the floor.
20:07: When it went to the hearing stage, it absolutely sailed through the hearing stage with a vote of 7 to 2.
20:15: Since Roe vs. Wade, getting bills of equal protection and abolition hasn't really been a thing until very recently.
20:22: And then we weren't able to get them past the hearing stage. And now we got a bill of equal protection that calls what's in the womb the image of God.
20:33: It's a mustard seed that's starting to bloom into a very big tree and it's happening across the country.
20:39: We have more states coming very soon. We were even able to argue in the case that ultimately overturned
20:47: Roe vs. Wade. We were able to argue with an amicus brief in that case. And in our amicus brief, we argued that the court must yield to the authority of Jesus Christ, not just the
20:59: Constitution. But that the authority of God's Word and Jesus Christ is ultimate. It's above the court.
21:06: It's above the very Constitution itself. It's a transcendent law. It's an authority above all.
21:12: And we argued that in the case that ultimately overturned Roe vs. Wade. Do you see what happens?
21:19: Do you see what happens when the church of Jesus Christ brings His Word to the world?
21:28: Light in darkness. And we have that message of life. We have to speak it.
21:36: I hope you join us in bringing that to the world. That day we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection.
21:55: And we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill. Of course the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up.
22:03: I think Roe vs. Wade is one of the worst decisions that's ever come out of the U .S. Supreme Court. But it's the law.
22:08: Like it or not, it is the law. It's been the law for almost 50 years. We can't defy the federal courts.
22:14: We don't care how much they're defying the Constitution. We can't defy them. Well, that excuse is gone.
22:19: We're outside the Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe vs. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
22:29: We're going to win. We've raised up churches in Canada, the
22:36: United States of America, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Northern Ireland, in the Republic of Ireland, in Scotland, all over the world who are preaching the gospel in this area and demanding equal protection for all humans from conception.
22:50: And we've been able to get bills in through the work of the church and through End Abortion Now in states across the country,
22:57: Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, Colorado. I mean, it's something that's happened across the country.
23:05: And ultimately, the huge moment was Louisiana.
23:20: Yeah, so in Louisiana, House Bill 813 carried by Representative Danny McCormick, it was a bill that provided equal protection.
23:27: And what that means is that all the bill did, it actually didn't really create a new law.
23:33: You know, states already have laws that prohibit homicide, right? Murder is already illegal in every single state.
23:38: What House Bill 813 did was it took away the abortion exception to that. So that way, homicide that already protects the lives of born people would now protect the lives of pre -born people, people before they're born.
23:52: That's what the U .S. Constitution says. No state shall deny equal protection. So that's what the bill did. It provided equal protection.
23:58: And that's not just in the U .S. Constitution. That's in the Louisiana Constitution, too. It was a very favorable situation that really is unprecedented in terms of the progress of this kind of work that we're trying to put in place to actually protect life at this stage and make abortion illegal.
24:28: I'm Guto. Yes, Representative LaFleur. No, Representative Marcel. Representative McCormick.
24:35: Yes. Yes, Representative Hodges. Representative Muscarello. Yes, Representative Nelson.
24:42: Representative Sebaugh. Yes, Representative Villio. Representative Marino.
24:49: No, seven yeas, two nays. Thank you. House Bill 813 will be reported favorably.
24:57: They approved the bill. They were like, this is common sense. If a fetus is a person, so let's treat them like a person.
25:04: How do we treat other people? Let's treat the fetus the same way. If we truly believe that they're persons, like we've said in the pro -life movement for 49 years, let's treat them like that.
25:13: The committee said, thumbs up. The bill in Louisiana was historic because the bill made it not only to hearing, but past the hearing and onto the floor.
25:24: This bill was talked about across the country. MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, everybody knew about this bill.
25:32: And this bill was a big moment because in all the years of Roe versus Wade, the pro -life establishment hasn't been working to criminalize and abolish abortion.
25:40: This was a bill of equal protection, a bill that's consistent with what they say they believe, a bill that says that what's in the womb is in the image of God.
25:47: It's human from conception. All humans deserve to be equally protected under the law. They have not fought that way.
25:54: And so this was historic in that sense, but it was also historic because it made it to the floor in Louisiana.
25:59: And it was a huge moment in Louisiana because as soon as it passed through the hearing stage and it went to the floor, the pro -life establishment was freaking out.
26:13: Over the course of the next week, before it got to the floor of the House, there had been lots of lobbying by pro -life organizations, pro -life politicians, pro -life establishment, pro -life lobby, the pro -life industry.
26:28: They'd been lobbying, saying, you've got to kill this bill. And as we moved closer and closer to the day of the actual vote, the establishment came in undercover, and they started talking to our legislators, telling them, don't pass that bill.
26:42: Don't pass a bill like that. No bill that would actually criminalize abortion and actually provide equal protection.
26:47: So the day of the vote itself, over 70 pro -life organizations joined together to put a letter out to legislators across the
26:54: United States of America that said that they did not want legislatures to put any bills of equal protection in that would actually call it a crime for everybody involved in killing the child.
27:06: They said, we're against criminalizing the mother, which the bill doesn't criminalize the mother.
27:12: The bill criminalizes conduct. It criminalizes murder. It doesn't criminalize the mother. It doesn't even really talk about the mother.
27:18: The law applies equally to everybody, just like the laws that protect the lives of born people.
27:24: It doesn't single out one particular sex. That day we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection.
27:33: And we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill. Of course, the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up.
27:40: There was maybe two or three pro -choicers at the Capitol that day. That's how much they knew they didn't have to lift a finger because it was the establishment, the pro -life establishment that came in and tried to convince all of our legislators to not pass the bill because fundamentally they have a worldview that is not a
27:56: Christian worldview. They believe that they can acquit the guilty. There are people who murder their children who should not be seen as guilty of the crime of abortion.
28:07: And of course, again, this goes against the biblical worldview. It goes against Christian history and Christian tradition.
28:14: The Christian church has always seen everybody involved in killing a child on the womb as guilty, and they need the gospel.
28:21: And so we had our work cut out for us, but it was a big moment. Louisiana was huge because it showed the establishment that this small group of Christians with nowhere near the funds and budget they have can deliver a bigger punch and punch a bigger hole than they ever have in 50 years of Roe versus Wade.
28:43: My name is Zach Lautenschlager. I've worked in professional politics for the last 24 years, focused my career on no compromise, political fights, defending the right to keep and bear arms, and working to return to the right to life.
28:59: I've worked with end abortion now for the last three years. Our forefathers sacrificed to that level so that we can stand and fight for the rights to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, using political means.
29:21: Louisiana last year, well, earlier this year, is certainly, in the last cycle, is certainly another major milestone as legislation moves from committee to a vote on the floor of one chamber.
29:39: As far as we know, that's one of the first where we won the committee vote and it moved to the floor.
29:45: And this is the way you measure yardage. You measure progress in politics. Every bill is going to have to go through multiple votes, and if you can start moving through winning some of those, you're definitely making progress.
29:58: It's really interesting when you talk about, like, how do you put one of these bills in? The truth is, it's so grassroots and so simple that some of it is, honestly, in terms of, like, political acumen or political power and prowess, it's kind of embarrassing.
30:19: It's literally Christians calling up legislators and saying, do you believe it's human from conception?
30:25: Yes, I need to talk to you. I'm going to pick up the phone and use the publicly available roster of the
30:34: House and Senate in my particular state, and I'm going to call their office and I'm going to ask them, would you consider actually ending abortion?
30:41: Would you sponsor legislation to end abortion? That's the basic level. It's that kind of grassroots, mustard seed kind of moves in states that has brought all these about.
30:53: It's just been a move of the church going to legislators and saying, you said you believe this. Are you a believer?
30:59: Yes. Do you want to protect these children? Yes. This is a bill that's consistent. There's not much to it. For human from conception, all humans deserve equal protection.
31:08: Very simple. And so we've been able to work with churches and ourselves talking directly to legislators to find the legislators who want to be brave, find the legislators who are not going to compromise find the legislators who are going to be consistent and put the bills in those states.
31:23: And so, of course, when we get the bill into the state, we gather the churches in that state to rally and also to talk to their legislators to co -sponsor the bill and to pass these bills.
31:34: And we're in a new place now because now we're moving into other states in 2023. And one of the states that we have is
31:42: Georgia. So it was exhausting. We were all super tired, but it went really well.
31:47: Good stuff. The representative we talked to is just a solid believer, loves the
31:53: Lord, loves God's law. Didn't even have to teach him Lex Rex. He already believed it and said it himself.
31:59: God's law is above man's law and the Constitution. So that was good. He's a good dude.
32:06: We got his commitment. He wants to do it. He wants to work with us on what it's going to look like in terms of when he has the debates.
32:14: He wants us on his side, Bradley and me, to answer questions as experts.
32:20: He wants to be trained. He wants us to do the groundwork to get the public involved.
32:26: So he knows what he's doing. Solid dude. We are leaving the hotel right now to go to the Capitol to film the spots that we're going to be releasing when this stuff goes through.
32:37: Just short spots. And then we return home tonight. I think we landed like 7 .45
32:44: on time. Georgia is another state similar to Louisiana in terms of its prospects.
32:52: There are quite a few groups on the ground in Georgia right now that are on the exact same page as we are.
33:01: We've met with them. We've talked with them. We're equipping them. They're ready to go.
33:07: They're on the gospel message. They're consistent. They're not compromised. And they're ready to raise up other churches across the state of Georgia and to make sure that everyone knows this is going on so that our legislators can get the support that they need and that the
33:19: Church of Christ knows about this bill and what's going on. And so we were able even to go to Georgia and meet with all of our organizations that are out there, some of them, to meet with them.
33:31: They're all preparing right now for this move as Christians to establish justice for the pre -born in the state of Georgia.
33:38: Will it be as impactful as Louisiana and everything that happened there? I think it has the potential to be just as impactful, if not more.
33:49: Based on the climate right now, of course, this is the first legislation at this scale that we're going to be able to shine light on since the overturning of Roe v.
33:59: Wade, which is a big, big deal because legislators, politicians, no longer have the excuse of waiting on the
34:08: Supreme Court to overturn Roe. That's already done and gone and over with.
34:14: If anybody has told you that passage of 813 will prevent a single abortion, they misled you or they don't know how the law works because the fact of the matter is if we pass this bill and the
34:24: Senate passes this bill and the governor signs this bill, it will be enjoined the next day because Roe v.
34:30: Wade is still the law of the land. The U .S. Supreme Court said you can't do this.
34:35: Thank you for joining us on this Friday night on A Day That Changed America. We're outside the
34:41: Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe v. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
34:49: That excuse is gone. A lot of politicians use that. Well, we can't defy the federal courts.
34:54: We don't care how much they're defying the Constitution. We can't defy them. Well, that excuse is gone.
35:00: You can't use that one anymore. Roe is gone. Planned Parenthood v. Casey is gone. And a lot of them have said, well, we would do what you're saying.
35:08: We would abolish abortion if it weren't for the court. Well, now the court's like, all right, here you go.
35:15: And that's what we're saying, too. Here you go, then. Here's your opportunity. Put your money where your mouth is.
35:22: Do it. Abolish abortion. We're up against a pro -life industry that even with Roe v.
35:28: Wade out of the way, they're still fighting their fight the same way. Fifteen -week bans, total partiality.
35:35: You can kill this child, but not this child. Heartbeat bills. Roe v. Wade was never the issue.
35:41: They're a business. They're an industry. They're staying alive through regulation.
35:47: We want this to be over and to wash our hands of it and to walk away. I don't want to do this ministry anymore.
35:55: I want justice established, and I want this done. So, the bill in Georgia, it does what the
36:02: Constitution requires. It provides equal protection. It does what the Georgia Constitution requires. And it provides equal protection.
36:09: And equal protection just means one of the laws to protect born people and protect the pre -born equally.
36:21: I'm looking forward to the battle that's going to happen. There's going to be the abolitionists on one side.
36:27: There's going to be the people who believe consistently that a fetus is a person. They're made in the image of God.
36:33: They should be protected from conception until natural death. That's where we should be protecting them.
36:39: And a lot of people have said that they believe that, but now they're going to have an opportunity in Georgia to prove it.
36:45: Prove it. You say you want to abolish abortion? Prove it. Do it. Here's the bill.
36:51: We're going to win. We're going to win, period. Jesus is, according to Scripture, putting all of his enemies under his feet.
36:58: So, we're going to win. This is ending someday. We're prayerful that Georgia, of course, establishes justice, but this is going under the feet of Jesus.
37:09: The church is going to have victory over this. It is an absolute guarantee. This is why abortion is still legal.
37:21: Failure to provide equal protection of the laws. With Roe v. Wade now overturned, many are hailing this praiseworthy moment as a victory.
37:31: And rightfully so. The Supreme Court had a duty to do before God and correct the wrong of a past atrocity.
37:38: They acknowledge this illegitimacy of Roe and that decision. For this, we should give
37:44: God all the glory and praise. However, the federal government also had a duty to ensure that the states provided all of its citizens with equal protection of the laws, in accordance with the 14th
37:57: Amendment of the Constitution. Babies in the womb are persons, after all. Instead, the
38:03: Supreme Court washed its hands of the responsibility to do what justice fully required of them by saying to the states, you decide.
38:13: Therefore, while we celebrate the end of Roe, it is inaccurate to say that abortion is now illegal in our land.
38:21: Abortion is not illegal anywhere. How can that be, you may ask? Aren't abortion providers closing up shop?
38:29: What about trigger bills? Aren't states passing bans of various kinds on when and how abortions can take place?
38:37: Well, yes, but this in no way means that abortion is actually illegal. If abortion was illegal, then all abortions would be illegal.
38:46: But the fact remains that in all 50 states, mothers are still allowed to kill their preborn children.
38:53: The reason? No state has affirmed the equal value of babies in the womb by protecting their lives with the same laws that protect our lives.
39:05: Mothers can still have DIY abortions, whether by pills or potions, anywhere, even up to the moment of birth in some states.
39:15: In what other situation of homicide is any party involved with the taking of a life exempt from being subject to the justice system?
39:24: Abortion is the only case of homicide in which the perpetrator of a crime is automatically ruled out from any legal recourse.
39:34: This is vitally important to understand because often a false dichotomy is set up between abolitionists and those in the mainstream pro -life movement.
39:44: Pro -life leaders will say that they believe the abortionist should be pursued legally, unlike abolitionists over here who say that the mother should be pursued legally.
39:54: But this is a false choice. The reality is that abolitionists are for prosecuting abortionists, but we are also for allowing the mother to be prosecuted as well.
40:07: And it is up to the justice system to decide each case of homicide by the formal rule of law on the basis of its own merits, just like in any other case of homicide.
40:19: That is what is meant by equal protection of the laws. The baby in the womb must have the same standards of justice to protect them as everyone else because God's word commands us not to have unequal weights and measures in the consideration of legal matters.
40:38: Justice must be applied equally, which can only be done if all responsible parties are answerable, whether they be perpetrators, accomplices, or co -conspirators to the act itself.
40:53: Consider for a moment how unacceptable it would be in the case of a mother that killed her born child to disqualify her from the legal process altogether based on arbitrary factors like her emotional state or her circumstances, the way so many do when it comes to the mom that kills her own preborn child.
41:15: None of these things have any bearing on the necessity for justice to be done. Opponents of equal protection advance several caricatures against it, but in standing against it, one of two things become clear.
41:28: Number one, they either don't believe that a fetus is actually a person or therefore violating the constitution and the law of God itself.
41:39: As Christians concerned with justice for the preborn, we need to get this right so that we are not guilty of the kind of prejudicial bigotry that many pro -life leaders engage in when they reject due process for the baby in the womb.
41:56: We must do as James says and fulfill the royal law of scripture by loving our neighbor as we love ourselves so that we do not show partiality and convict ourselves under the law.
42:08: Equal protection is the way we end abortion in our nation. As long as we fail to meet the demands of justice, children will continue to be murdered.
42:20: It's time to love our neighbor as ourselves and to actually apply the commandment of Christ in the legal realm as it relates to preborn children.
42:32: History has already judged those evil people in the same way future generations will judge you.
42:38: And more importantly, there is a day of judgment in which you'll be judged for this injustice today. Thank you mayor and members of the council.
42:57: My name is Reverend Jeff Durbin. I'm in opposition today and I'm a pastor of Apologia Church and the head of End Abortion Now and I'm a resident of the city of Phoenix.
43:06: By God's grace, we're the organization that has actually put in the bills of abolition and criminalization across the
43:13: United States of America including Louisiana, Texas, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and there's more coming.
43:20: We also filed the amicus brief in the Dobbs case that defeated Roe. Just an observation, it's an incontrovertible fact that what's in the womb is human from conception.
43:30: That is not under dispute. That's not debated. Somebody making that claim is about 50 years behind the science.
43:36: There's an incontrovertible fact that what's in the womb is human from the moment of conception and all humans deserve equal protection.
43:43: When the Christian abolitionists fought to criminalize slavery based upon the Christian scriptures and Christian worldview, they had to contend with rulers and powerful white people who just couldn't let it go.
43:54: They fought, those rulers, to dehumanize our black brothers and sisters and not offer them equal protection under the law.
44:01: The same thing that you're attempting to do today. Dehumanize the pre -born and offer them no protection.
44:08: History has already judged those evil people in the same way future generations will judge you.
44:14: More importantly, there is a day of judgment in which you'll be judged for this injustice today. Can you just imagine, friends and fellow residents, when slavery was abolished and criminalized, rulers such as yourselves calling a special session to legislate or resolve to ignore reports of people beating or owning our black brothers and sisters.
44:36: The law doesn't work in their favor, so they suggest simply ignoring it. Scripture says those who hate me love death.
44:44: Nothing could be clearer than that today. I call on you to repent, turn to Christ, and establish justice and equal protection for these innocent pre -born human beings.
44:55: Thank you for your time. Madam Chair and members,
45:26: I want to thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the Bill of Equal Protection for all human beings in your state. I want to thank you all for staying up so late.
45:33: You guys are out of your minds. My name is Reverend Jeff Durbin. I'm the pastor of Apologia Church and the head of End Abortion Now.
45:40: We've raised up about 900 local churches across the country that go to abortion mills to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope and love to mothers and fathers going in, and to even adopt other children if they'll let us.
45:53: And we've saved thousands upon thousands upon thousands of children from death, and you can prevent that here.
46:02: I'm speaking on behalf of over 60 million pre -born human beings murdered since the tyranny of Roe and the thousands killed daily, upwards of 3 ,000 killed per day in this nation.
46:15: It's an incontrovertible and irrefutable biological and biblical fact that all human beings, all life begins at conception.
46:22: It's one of the things that's incontrovertible and hasn't been able to be disputed by the members this evening is that the word of God isn't the only standard that says it's the image of God and worthy of our value and love and protection, but science is on our side.
46:37: We know it's a fact irrefutable, and the heads of Planned Parenthood and other organizations admit, yeah, it's fully human at conception, but we still have the right to kill children in the womb.
46:48: That is something that's incontrovertible and needs to be contended with. It's a moral question, not a biological one.
46:55: What's in the womb is fully human from conception. The only difference is the difference of degree, size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependence.
47:02: We don't kill other human beings because they're small. My wife would be in huge trouble if that were the case.
47:08: We don't kill other human beings because of their level of development. I have a toddler who's two years old that I adopted who was going to be killed because he had spina bifida as a diagnosis.
47:17: His mother had two abortion appointments. His name is Augustine. He is two right now.
47:22: He's not fully developed, and he is fully dependent on us, as I'm sure some of you guys know who have children running around.
47:28: We don't kill other human beings because of simply where they're located. What is in the womb is fully human, and what's being killed in our nation is about 3 ,000 per day.
47:38: I have so much written here, but I thought I'm going to change the direction just quickly. Refute the arguments against the bill, because they're poor arguments and fallacious, and I want to humbly encourage you to think about them.
47:50: This issue is first and foremost an issue of sin. It's an issue of morality. It is also a crime, yes, but it is a sin, and there is hope and forgiveness and peace only in Christ, but sin will not only corrupt us morally, but it corrupts even our reasoning processes, and I want to show you some of that now.
48:07: One of the things you keep hearing is bodily autonomy arguments. Let me please just ask you humbly, please, I know it's late, to listen to this one thing, because every time you hear it, it's self -refuting.
48:17: All arguments from humans that we have bodily autonomy are pro -life arguments because what's in the womb is human.
48:26: If your argument is humans have bodily autonomy, then the humans in the womb have bodily autonomy, so every time you hear it, it's self -refuting every single time.
48:36: Mr. Durbin, your time is up. If you could just wrap it up real quick. Yeah, I'll finish with these last thoughts.
48:43: The issue of slavery in the Holocaust, they were called beasts and parasites. I'm glad that's behind us now, but this issue here of the
48:51: Supreme Court, I'll just say quickly, Supreme Court, the decision of Roe v.
48:57: Wade is not law. Congress legislates in our nation. Congress creates law, not the Supreme Court. When I wrapped it up,
49:03: I meant like one sentence. Yeah, and Dred Scott and your marijuana laws show that states resist the federal government.
49:09: You do it every day in Colorado. You resist the federal government for marijuana, but you won't do it for children.
49:15: That's a sin. It's a crime. I call you to turn to Christ and do what's right and establish justice. Okay.
49:26: Representative Mollica, you have a question? Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. I have several questions, and I think that there's a lot.
49:34: I mean, that was a lot of testimony. That was just a lot of testimony.
49:42: So my first question, and I mean, I probably know the answer, but I still want to ask it, is do any of you, can you relate or know what it's like to carry a child or carry a child that may not be able to come to term?
50:03: We heard testimony earlier tonight about carrying a child that their organs weren't fully developing.
50:11: Do any of you know what that's like to carry a child or have to deal with that? And Mr.
50:20: Durbin, thank you. I'm sorry. We're supposed to recognize speakers. I'm so sorry,
50:25: Madam Chair. I apologize. And that's the whole point, because we do have people listening online. They just want to know who's talking.
50:31: Please go ahead and answer. Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, I thank you for the question, sir. The obvious question to whether I know what it's like to carry a child is, no,
50:38: I'm biologically a male, and I can't create life. However, I have five children, and my wife carried them all, and I know when we talk about the emotional impact of a child who is in the womb who has some sort of genetic abnormality, that is a heavily emotional situation because of the value and dignity of human life.
50:59: We recognize it with both the mother and the child. It's an impactful thing to consider.
51:04: For example, my son was in the womb with the worst stage of spina bifida, and his mother had two appointments to take him to kill him, and his name is
51:14: Augustine. He's two years old, and he's the greatest gift of my entire life. All of life is precious. We live in a fallen world.
51:21: There is sickness, disease, and decay. These are things that hurt all of us. You feel the weight of it, sir, and so do
51:26: I. But what we don't do is then say, well, these are painful circumstances, so now let's allow people to kill their children.
51:34: I want to just point out one fact. Less than 2 % of all abortions, almost 3 ,000 a day, less than 2 % are because of rape, incest, life of the mother.
51:42: The other 98 % are at will because of convenience. When you're talking about a situation like genetic abnormality, like my son was diagnosed with, you're talking about a heavily emotional issue that doesn't allow us to then say, okay, let's kill all the babies at will.
52:00: Go ahead, sorry. Can I speak to that, Madam Chair? Sure. Just briefly. Mr. Eberoth.
52:09: Eberoth. Yeah. It's okay. It's a hard name to pronounce, easy to forget. Fine. I'd also speak to that.
52:16: When you ask about carrying a child, so again, I'm a biological male. That's impossible for me to fully understand.
52:23: But I have a sister who's Down syndrome. And so during the stages of development, when they had discovered early on that my sister was going to be born with Down syndrome, that would have also fallen under the current laws given now under the category of she would have been developmentally, had developmental issues that would have been allowed for an abortion, even early on in the early phases of the legislation here in Colorado.
52:49: It would have been legal for her to be killed in the womb. And it was highly encouraged for a number of reasons.
52:56: One, to my parents, they said things like, it's going to be difficult for her, she's going to have a hard life, just having
53:03: Down syndrome. But then they also later discovered that she had two holes in her heart. And so as things progressed, they said, well, there's a high possibility that she may not even make it to full term.
53:13: And then they got to the place where they said she might not even make it to delivery, right, through delivery, because it's very stressful on the little one as they get delivered.
53:22: And again, may I stress here, she was born with two holes in her heart, literally pumping, bleeding to death as she's being delivered.
53:31: With that said, she immediately was rushed into open heart surgery. And may I add, my parents decided not to take her life and to keep her.
53:38: She was immediately rushed into open heart surgery. And they said, well, you know, there's a high probability she's going to die at a very early age, which was part of the motivational factor to abort her.
53:51: And may I say this today, my sister is 35 years old, has lived a wonderful life as an advocate for Down syndrome children.
54:00: And she has spoken multiple times in California at their capital in Sacramento on behalf of special needs children.
54:08: So I would say we need to be very careful in distinguishing, yes, they might be born without organs, but it's really not, in terms of intrinsic value isn't based on what kind of organs they don't have, right, the lack thereof, or the quality of life they might experience, or even the quality of life of the parent.
54:24: We need to do what's in the best interest of the child and do our best to preserve life at all costs. Representative Mullica, and then we do have other questions from other members.
54:34: Yeah, just thank you, Madam Chair. I think something I'm interested in, too, and it was referenced, you know, and I don't know where those statistics came from, but I'd be curious to know your thoughts on abortion in the case of rape incest or the health of the mother, that if you agree with that or if you disagree with that.
54:57: That's a good question. Madam Chair. Go ahead. Mr. Durbin.
55:04: Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Representative, for the question. I think it's an important one. The statistic of less than 2 % for rape incest life of the mother is a commonly known statistic in the industry itself, so it's regularly acknowledged.
55:19: Very important, because when we talk about those issues, they are all issues that impact us, because we recognize that rape is such a horrendous abomination.
55:29: It's such a tremendous evil that even in the Bible, God's law, and that went through English common law and all through history, it's such a tremendous evil that it was something that was worthy of capital punishment.
55:40: So according to a biblical worldview and then English common law moving through history, what was handed down to us was that kind of value put on a woman's life that you cannot do to someone's body whatever you please.
55:51: Somebody cannot, by their own will and force, do something to another person's body against their will.
55:58: So if you're against rape, you should be pro -life and an abolitionist on our side, because what's happening in abortion is primarily the issue that makes rape such an abomination.
56:08: I am doing to another person's body something against their will. But also, I do not believe that in the instance of rape that we should punish the child for the sin of the father.
56:18: We should not give children capital punishment because their fathers are criminals. There are so many living, amazing, thriving, beautiful human beings today that are alive that would come right here,
56:28: Representative, and testify to you. They are products of rape, and they're grateful to God that they weren't killed.
56:34: Next is I actually had friends I grew up with that were products of incest. I don't think we should kill them. And when it comes to the issue of the life of the mother, it's such a...
56:43: For me as a pastor, I wanted to say this. In the last month, I've dealt with three miscarriages, one baby delivered at the hospital, six months in the womb.
56:50: It's such a dramatically painful situation for a mother when you talk about an instance where the life of the mother is at risk.
56:57: However, and you guys can check this later. Check me on this statistic. The number of instances today because of medical technology where the mother's life is truly in danger is so infinitesimally small.
57:09: But what we do with that, Representative, is we actually go in a situation like that, and it is a life -saving operation.
57:17: The doctors at a hospital are concerned with the preservation of life in both cases, the mother and the preborn child.
57:24: When you go to a hospital, they're trying to actually perform a life -saving operation. It's a dramatically emotional situation.
57:31: And so when we talk about the issue of the life of the mother, I think we're once again back to the question of who says that a human life is valuable.
57:39: Is it valuable in this instance but not in this instance? Because that's exactly what was going on, and the things we all agree with are evils behind us, the issue of slavery and the issue of the
57:49: Holocaust. Same issue. Representative Ortiz. And I would ask you all to please stick to answering the specific question being asked.
57:58: So the specific question here is did the Supreme Court legislate, that's option
58:04: A, or did they interpret the constitutionality of existing state law that was refuted in Roe v.
58:11: Wade? I don't need the ten -minute explanation. I just want the concise, quick answer.
58:16: Mr. Durbin. Yeah, well, our president, Joe Biden, and the White House press secretary do not agree with the idea that Roe v.
58:25: Wade is law. He's not answering the question. I'm specifically addressing your question,
58:31: Representative. They've said, and you can check this yourself, a number of times that they want to codify
58:37: Roe as law, and I understand that there are representatives in Colorado here that want to codify Roe as law because it's not.
58:43: The answer was it refuted a Texas state law. Representative Ortiz, I do need to recognize you. That's a good question.
58:50: You may not like his answer. He's just going to process it. And we only have 30 seconds, so if you want to spend 30 seconds and explain that.
59:00: I will, and I am answering the representative's questions. I'm sorry he's bothered by it, but it is not law.
59:07: Congress creates law in our nation. You can look that up in the Constitution. It is not the Supreme Court. Colorado understands the need to protect their citizens because Colorado defies federal law and the courts every day in Colorado by resisting federal law and court opinions on marijuana.
59:23: It is against the law federally and by the courts to smoke marijuana in the state, but Colorado says our citizens and their rights are more important, and so we resist the federal courts, and I'm thankful that we have that history even in the case of Dred Scott.
59:36: Thank you for your response. Our time is up. Thank you all. Your time is up. All right, here we are.
59:47: We're in Coleraine, Northern Ireland at the Causeway Hospital. Many of you guys know the history of Northern Ireland and the
59:55: Republic. It wasn't actually that long ago when abortion was legalized in the
01:00:03: Republic and then thrust upon Northern Ireland, and so through the work of End Abortion Now and Apology of Church, through your prayers, through your giving, through your sacrifices, you've been a part of us raising up the churches in Northern Ireland who are fighting against this, their now new holocaust, and they're doing it as the church with the gospel of Jesus Christ, with the word of God, and so you're seeing some of this right now.
01:00:31: Some of the believers who are out here in front of the hospital, they come, they speak the truth, they give mothers who are coming in the truth, and they're out here with signs with scripture on them testifying to the authority of Christ and the word of God here in Northern Ireland, and so please continue to pray for the churches here in Northern Ireland and in the
01:00:52: Republic who are standing strong with the gospel itself to fight against the evil of abortion in their nation, and so I'll turn it over to you.
01:01:00: Yeah, so one thing that's unique about this setup that's different than the United States is this is a hospital, so we're out here at the corner, the main entrance coming in, and literally all they can do is stand there with a sign and hope that they dissuade abortion -minded women from coming in.
01:01:17: They have no idea who is actually coming in for an abortion or not, and we've been able to encourage them. Just today
01:01:22: I had a couple conversations earlier where I said, hey, just being here, just having that presence, you have no idea how many babies are actually being saved.
01:01:30: We tried to encourage them with that, but you can see the difficulties that they have. They can't get right up to the clinic.
01:01:37: They really have ultimately no idea how many people are coming in to have an abortion, so be praying for them. It's a much more difficult situation than we have in the
01:01:45: States. Yes, and Pastor Luke and I wanted to speak to you specifically.
01:01:52: You've been a part of this work with us, and so you can't be here standing with us in Northern Ireland, but we wanted you to see the fruit of your prayers, your sacrifices, and your giving towards this ministry.
01:02:04: God has blessed this work so tremendously, not only with the lives that have been saved, but also with the prophetic witness of the church that is now speaking this truth in the public square without compromise, without neutrality, under the
01:02:18: Lordship of Christ. That's something that you've done together with us, so we just wanted to bless you with this scene so you can see what we see, and you can start to know a little bit about what we know.
01:02:28: We've been having so many conversations this last week in Northern Ireland with churches, with pastors who are fully dedicated, without compromise, dedicated to the gospel, dedicated to now bringing this truth into the public square, and that's something that is no glory to us.
01:02:45: It is really to the glory of Christ, but he's done it with his people. So I wanted to bless you all with that and encourage you.
01:02:51: God is doing very powerful things. This is a global movement of the church. It's happening around the world, and so please continue to pray for this ministry.
01:02:59: Please get involved. If you haven't signed up yet at endabortionnow .com to start doing this work alongside of us, please do so, and please do give financially to this ministry.
01:03:09: We'd be grateful for anything that you can do to help us to continue this labor, this work to help raise up the
01:03:15: Christian church to preach Christ amidst this Holocaust. Thank you guys so much for all you've done.
01:03:26: Hey everyone, this is Pastor Jeff Durbin with End Abortion Now. For the past seven years, many of you all have stood with us.
01:03:33: You have served alongside of us. You've given financially to this ministry that is dedicated to ending one of the greatest injustices of our day, and that's the slaughter of our pre -born neighbors.
01:03:45: God has blessed us in this ministry, and we're a part of this ministry fundamentally because we're
01:03:51: Christians. The goal of this ministry is to end abortion in Jesus' name as Christians.
01:03:59: We wanted to have a ministry in the area of abortion that was focused on Christ, focused on the gospel, and focused on telling the truth to our culture.
01:04:09: We wanted to do this ministry explicitly as Christians under the banner of the gospel with local churches working together across the
01:04:17: United States of America and around the world. And that's what God has done. God has allowed us to raise up over 900 local churches equipped and trained absolutely for free with no cost to them to go out to their local abortion mills to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope to mothers and fathers who are going inside.
01:04:37: And because of that effort, we have saved tens of thousands of lives. You've been a part of that with us.
01:04:43: If you've prayed for us, if you've given financially over the last seven years, you've been a part of that effort to raise those churches up.
01:04:51: Babies are being saved every single day across the United States of America because of your work together with us.
01:04:57: So I want to first say from my heart, thank you for being a part of this ministry with us.
01:05:02: We've also, because of your help with us over all of these years, been able to give the message of the gospel on our media platforms globally in conflict with the issue of abortion.
01:05:13: It's changed hearts. It's changed minds. We have messages on our platforms of mothers who came across our content who were on their way to the abortion facility to have their abortion.
01:05:25: And now their babies are alive today because of that message. We've been able to raise up churches, raise up Christians to speak consistently to their neighbors, to their communities, and to their legislatures in this area of abortion because of the content that you've helped us to build.
01:05:39: So I want to say thank you again for that. And we've been able through your help together with us to have bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization go into states across the
01:05:50: United States of America. Bills in Arizona, in Texas, in South Carolina, in Louisiana, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado.
01:05:58: And there's more coming. All of this has happened because you've partnered together with us to end this evil and this great injustice that's perpetrated upon our preborn neighbors.
01:06:09: And so thank you for being a part of this with us. As many of you know, the numbers are staggering.
01:06:16: 60 million plus human beings have been killed in our nation since Roe versus Wade.
01:06:22: 60 million plus and counting. There's more and more all the time. Now we're thankful that we were able to participate in the amicus brief filed by our constitutional attorney
01:06:33: Bradley Pierce in the Dobbs case, which ultimately overturned Roe versus Wade. We knew that Roe versus Wade needed to go away.
01:06:40: It was an injustice, an evil court opinion that the states should have actually resisted. However, that Roe decision was actually in the way of us establishing justice in the states.
01:06:52: And now that Roe is out of the way, we have almost 10 states committed to putting in bills of abolition in our union in the beginning of next legislative session.
01:07:03: So we have that happening and Roe is out of the way. I want to just speak to this for a moment. Many, many people believe that essentially this fight is really basically over because Roe is out of the way.
01:07:15: I want to say that the fight has only just begun. Roe's being overturned has not established justice for the preborn.
01:07:21: We are not anywhere close to equal protection. We don't have criminalization in the states across the United States of America where true justice is established for our neighbors.
01:07:29: And so our fight has really just started. We want to ask you to partner with us in 2023. Once again, we have over 900 churches that are already a part of our network.
01:07:39: We are adding more all the time. We are producing more content that is changing hearts and changing minds and saving lives.
01:07:47: You can see those stories at endabortionnow .com. And we have 10 states right now that we are working in to put bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization in in the first quarter of next legislative session.
01:08:00: So we need you to partner with us again in 2023. It is going to be our most important year yet.
01:08:06: So with the 900 churches and with a new website that actually helps you to partner with us in a much more comprehensive way, we have something special for 2023.
01:08:16: And that is that you can go to our new website, endabortionnow .com, and you can actually click on your state.
01:08:23: You can see the churches that are involved in your state that are saving lives, the lives that have been saved.
01:08:29: You're going to be able to hear those stories. And we've made it easy for Christians across the country to fight this battle with us in your particular state.
01:08:38: You go to endabortionnow .com. You go to where the states are. You click on the states. You'll be able to see the lives that have been saved.
01:08:44: And you'll be able to also connect directly to the legislators in your state.
01:08:50: We have everything already prepared for you. It's a pre -filled out form you can send directly to the legislators in your state.
01:08:57: We also have a petition you can sign in your state to put on the desks of the people who need to see it.
01:09:03: We've done all the work for you. We've made it simple so that you can partner with us in your state to establish justice.
01:09:10: All that is coming in 2023. It's our most important year. We need you to stand with us.
01:09:16: Since we started this work, this has grown in incredible ways. It is truly the grace of God that has brought us to this place.
01:09:24: And it is through believers just like you that partnered with us from the very beginning that helped us.
01:09:31: We're not a massive ministry. We're not huge. We don't have the tens of millions of dollars coming in like the pro -life organizations.
01:09:37: We are a local church that is equipping and training other local churches to save lives and that is going to legislators across the country and saying we demand justice immediately and abortion now.
01:09:49: And we've only been able to do this because believers just like you have put your hands in my hands and partnered with me in this ministry, with our team, to make this happen.
01:09:59: You've done this with us. So all of the tens of thousands of babies that are alive today are alive because of God's people sacrificing, praying, partnering with us.
01:10:08: All of the bills that are going in next year to establish justice are happening because believers just like you join together with us financially.
01:10:17: We need your help. We try as a ministry to stay lean and mean and we try as a ministry to make sure that we're as effective as we can possibly be with the truth and with very little budget that we need.
01:10:31: And so this year we need a little over a million dollars for the budget for 2023. I'll give you an example.
01:10:37: In one state last year, Louisiana, that bill itself that was unprecedented and it did a lot of damage, that bill was tens of thousands of dollars to put into place and to work.
01:10:49: And so God blessed it, but we need your partnership as we do this fight. So will you partner with me in 2023?
01:10:57: Help us as a ministry, as a church, as Christians to end this injustice in Jesus' name.
01:11:03: We're doing this as Christians. We're doing this because the gospel. We're doing this because we're called to love our neighbors and to lay our lives down for them.
01:11:10: And we're doing this fundamentally so that we don't have to do it anymore. We don't want to see this regulated.
01:11:16: We're not starting a business. For us, this isn't an industry. We're a church. We're trying to speak the gospel in this area to overcome it with the light of the gospel and we're trying to wash our hands of it and then walk away from it once justice is established.
01:11:30: Will you help us do that? Will you join us in 2023 with a donation? Give towards this work.
01:11:35: Help us to raise up more churches. Help us to save more lives, many more lives. And help us to establish justice at the state level.
01:11:43: Partner with us in 2023. I want to thank you for all you ever have done and I want to thank you for what you give in 2023.
01:11:51: EndAbortionNow .com is where you go. Check this site out. You can give there and please participate in all the new features we have there so you can help us in all the states that we're working in to end abortion now.
01:12:13: Hello, my name is Tim and I am the web manager here at End Abortion Now. I have the absolute joy and pleasure to present to you the new and updated
01:12:24: EndAbortionNow .com. I want to show you just a glimpse into what our donors accomplished this last year by showing you some new tools that will impact the way we politically fight to end abortion around the
01:12:38: United States. At the beginning of 2023, End Abortion Now will be going to be filing 10 state bills of equal protection.
01:12:48: We will be going to Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Louisiana, Texas, South Dakota, and finally
01:12:57: Arkansas. That may sound great and all, but why does it really matter?
01:13:03: Sometimes when we talk about politics, we can really lose sight of what we're actually doing here in trying to end abortion.
01:13:11: We are saving lives. Let me show you why these new tools will impact the way we approach the mission of ending abortion.
01:13:20: Let's go to the new interactive map. Now, let's go to the state of Georgia since we will be submitting a bill of equal protection there next year.
01:13:31: Scroll down and there you'll see 114 babies murdered through abortion every single day.
01:13:42: 114. That means by the end of watching this video, one baby will have died.
01:13:49: By the time we get to the state of Georgia next year, 10 ,260 babies will have been murdered.
01:13:56: If you're like me, you want to do something about this but know nothing about politics.
01:14:02: This is why we've made it easy through this new tool on endabortionnow .com.
01:14:09: If you continue to follow me on Georgia's state page, you will see two primary calls to action that you can take.
01:14:16: Number one, sign the petition. When we submit the bills of equal protection in Georgia and all the other states next year, we want to present a stack of names to the representatives there for political leverage.
01:14:33: How? Tell them if they do not support the bill, they will have thousands of their voters voting them out.
01:14:41: It's easy to do. Just go to your state, click on sign the petition.
01:14:47: It takes no time, no commitment. The second thing we've created is the state page.
01:14:54: Among state -specific data, you will see a contact your representative button. When you see us in your state next year and when you get an email from us telling you to contact your representatives, you want to click this button.
01:15:07: You will see the list of every pro -life politician in your state. You will then systematically email and call each of them, clicking on their names, clicking their email address, copying and pasting the message.
01:15:23: Then you can grab your phone and call them. Use the on -screen script to help assist you in that phone call.
01:15:31: This is what it takes to save the lives of children, like little Dakota. You can read about her on the homepage.
01:15:38: This is what it takes to save the lives of precious babies like Savaria, Keyshawn, Kingston, Navy, Rosie, River, all the babies on our testimony page.
01:15:48: These new tools equip us to finally see an end to abortion in these states.
01:15:54: Using these tools is a means of protecting and giving life to thousands of little children this year and thousands more to come.
01:16:02: If you haven't already, please consider helping us end abortion in these states this year.
01:16:08: The cost is great if we continue to do nothing. It's the price of tens of thousands of babies.
01:16:16: But the cost to you right now might be your financial support and handful of phone calls.
01:16:23: It's worth it. Please join us this year. If you feel led to give, please do so.
01:16:31: Click on the link somewhere in this video or go visit the new site at endabortionnow .com.
01:16:36: As you can see, our donors change lives. God bless you all, and I look forward to see what
01:16:44: God will do with your support in the following years. You know, when we first started our ministry to bring the gospel to the abortion mills, we saw the need.
01:17:10: We knew what Scripture said about it to rescue those who were being led to death. And so we thought, well, obviously, this is something the
01:17:17: Christian church should do. That's where the Christian church belongs. We want to bring the gospel there, tell the truth, especially there, if anywhere.
01:17:26: So we started building everything up to get out to the abortion mill and to bring a team, to bring the gospel.
01:17:33: We wanted to make sure we had people on standby even to adopt children, and we just wanted to save lives and see people come to Christ.
01:17:42: I mean, I can remember putting up the camera and live streaming us at the abortion mill so we could show believers that, look, we're saving children's lives.
01:17:50: We're seeing saves. We're seeing turnaways. We're having gospel conversations. We turned a live stream on, and the comment section was just filled with people who were professing believers, not unbelievers, but professing believers who were saying things like, that's not how you reach those women.
01:18:08: This isn't the right way to do it. This seems very abrasive. This seems mean -spirited because we were saying, please don't murder your children.
01:18:17: When we initially started doing that, it was the beginning of this whole ministry, and so we had fruit.
01:18:23: We had babies' lives being saved and us doing baby showers for mothers who turned away from the clinic.
01:18:30: We didn't have a lot of experience with, well, how do you deal with Christians who are telling you, don't go out into the public square with the truth?
01:18:37: Don't tell a mother who was minutes away from murdering her child, please don't murder your child.
01:18:43: The only way these women are going to come to Christ is if we give them the gospel. The only way their babies are going to be saved is if the church is there, you know, standing up for these children, and the only way we can actually minister to these women in the long run is if we show up.
01:18:57: And so we were surprised. We were surprised. What ended up happening was so many babies started being saved from this ministry that we stopped responding to people who were in the comments saying, this is wrong, you shouldn't do it.
01:19:16: We just started sharing pictures of babies that have been saved. So somebody would make, you know, a nasty comment.
01:19:22: We would just share a picture of Olivia Grace and Cara. Or we'd share a picture of Carmelo.
01:19:30: And that would tend to silence them. I don't think it's wrong to say, you know, alright,
01:19:36: I'm willing to be open to correction. If there's a better way to do this at the abortion mill to bring the gospel and save lives,
01:19:42: I'm all ears. How many babies have you saved? How many women have you seen turn to Christ through your methodology?
01:19:49: And the answer was crickets. We have trained up and raised about 900 local churches, mostly across the
01:19:59: US but also around the world in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, we've been to Scotland, it's happening in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, I mean really all over.
01:20:10: Churches are getting free training and free resources from us to just go out and bring the gospel into this particular area.
01:20:17: The Bible actually gives us a view into what the Spirit of God was doing within His people in the public square with the gospel message.
01:20:29: We get a picture of the methodology that actually God used to change the world.
01:20:36: End Abortion Now is a ministry of Apologia Church. It's a local church's ministry to bring the truth of the gospel into conflict with abortion in the public square in every area.
01:20:48: And so we knew we needed to bring the church to the abortion mill, we needed to bring the gospel there, we needed to save lives, we needed to raise churches up, and we needed to teach and speak into the culture through all the media platforms we have to tell them the truth about this issue of abortion and to bring the truth into conflict with error and with darkness in this area.
01:21:10: And we needed also to bring the truth to legislators who are responsible before God to establish justice and to preserve these lives.
01:21:19: And it is a very important area for the church to be involved in because the pro -life establishment, the pro -life industry, has sort of been in charge of fighting this battle since the beginning of Roe vs.
01:21:33: Wade. And the pro -life establishment is explicit. They express it themselves that they are not approaching this as Christians explicitly.
01:21:43: The head of National Right to Life has said that explicitly, that their organization tries to approach this from a neutral perspective, not as Christians, not with the gospel, not with the call to repentance.
01:21:54: If the problem of abortion is sin, if it's in fact evil, then the only solution is
01:22:00: God's word, God's truth, and the gospel itself. People aren't going to come to life apart from the words of life.
01:22:06: And so the pro -life establishment has fought with compromise, they've fought with neutrality, and the result has been over 62 million dead babies.
01:22:17: The result has been, in states across the union, bills of partiality, unequal weights and measures.
01:22:24: The pro -life establishment actually promoting and advocating for and accepting bills that say you can kill these humans, but not these humans.
01:22:34: Things that God hates. He says unequal weights and measures are an abomination to him.
01:22:40: We've been able to get bills of equal protection. Equal protection from conception.
01:22:46: All human life begins at conception, it's in the very image of God, and all human life deserves equal protection.
01:22:51: We've been able to get those kinds of bills into legislatures across the country, from Oklahoma to Arizona to Texas to South Carolina to Philadelphia to Ohio to Louisiana.
01:23:02: The problem has been that the pro -life establishment has been the major force fighting against these bills.
01:23:10: We've been getting bills into legislatures, and they've been able to stop them from even getting hearings.
01:23:16: We haven't been able to get them past the hearing stage until Louisiana.
01:23:22: What happened in Louisiana was unprecedented. It was historic. In Louisiana, we were able to get a bill into not only the hearing, but also onto the floor.
01:23:33: When it went to the hearing stage, it absolutely sailed through the hearing stage with a vote of 7 to 2.
01:23:42: Since Roe vs. Wade, getting bills of equal protection and abolition hasn't really been a thing until very recently.
01:23:49: And then we weren't able to get them past the hearing stage. And now we got a bill of equal protection that calls what's in the womb the image of God.
01:23:59: It's a mustard seed that's starting to bloom into a very big tree, and it's happening across the country.
01:24:05: We have more states coming very soon. We were even able to argue in the case that ultimately overturned
01:24:14: Roe vs. Wade, we were able to argue with an amicus brief in that case, and in our amicus brief, we argued that the court must yield to the authority of Jesus Christ, not just the
01:24:26: Constitution, but the authority of God's Word in Jesus Christ is ultimate. It's above the court.
01:24:32: It's above the very Constitution itself. It's a transcendent law. It's an authority above all, and we argued that in the case that ultimately overturned
01:24:42: Roe vs. Wade. Do you see what happens? Do you see what happens when the
01:24:48: Church of Jesus Christ brings His Word to the world? Light in darkness, and we have that message of life.
01:25:01: We have to speak it. I hope you join us in bringing that to the world. That day we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection, and we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill.
01:25:26: Of course the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up. I think Roe vs. Wade is one of the worst decisions that's ever come out of the
01:25:33: U .S. Supreme Court, but it's the law. Like it or not, it is the law. It's been the law for almost 50 years. We can't defy the federal courts.
01:25:40: We don't care how much they're defying the Constitution. We can't defy them. Well, that excuse is gone.
01:25:46: We're outside the Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe vs. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
01:25:56: We're gonna win. We've raised up churches in Canada, the
01:26:03: United States of America, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Northern Ireland, in the Republic of Ireland, in Scotland, all over the world who are preaching the gospel in this area and demanding equal protection for all humans from conception.
01:26:18: We've been able to get bills in through the work of the church and through End Abortion Now in states across the country.
01:26:24: Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, Colorado.
01:26:29: It's something that's happened across the country. And ultimately, the huge moment was
01:26:36: Louisiana. Yeah, so in Louisiana, House Bill 813 carried by Representative Danny McCormick, it was a bill that provided equal protection.
01:26:54: And what that means is that all the bill did, it actually didn't really create a new law. You know, states already have laws that prohibit homicide, right?
01:27:03: Murder is already illegal in every single state. What House Bill 813 did was it took away the abortion exception to that.
01:27:10: So that way, homicide that already protects the lives of born people would now protect the lives of pre -born people, people before they're born.
01:27:19: That's what the U .S. Constitution says, no state shall deny equal protection. So that's what the bill did, it provided equal protection.
01:27:25: And that's not just in the U .S. Constitution, that's in the Louisiana Constitution, too. It was a very favorable situation that really is unprecedented in terms of the progress of this kind of work that we're trying to put in place to actually protect life at this stage and make abortion illegal.
01:28:17: Thank you. House Bill 813 will be reported favorably. They approved the bill.
01:28:26: They were like, this is common sense. If a fetus is a person, so let's treat them like a person.
01:28:31: How do we treat other people? Let's treat the fetus the same way. If we truly believe that they're persons, like we've said in the pro -life movement for 49 years, let's treat them like that.
01:28:40: The committee said, thumbs up. The bill in Louisiana was historic because the bill made it not only to hearing, but past the hearing and onto the floor.
01:28:50: This bill was talked about across the country. MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, everybody knew about this bill, and this bill was a big moment because in all the years of Roe v.
01:29:02: Wade, the pro -life establishment hasn't been working to criminalize and abolish abortion. This was a bill of equal protection.
01:29:09: A bill that's consistent with what they say they believe. A bill that says that what's in the womb is in the image of God. It's human from conception.
01:29:16: All humans deserve to be equally protected under the law. They have not fought that way, and so this was historic in that sense, but it was also historic because it made it to the floor in Louisiana, and it was a huge moment in Louisiana because as soon as it passed through the hearing stage and it went to the floor, the pro -life establishment was freaking out.
01:29:40: Over the course of the next week, before it got to the floor of the House, there had been lots of lobbying by pro -life organizations, pro -life politicians, pro -life establishment, pro -life lobby, the pro -life industry.
01:29:54: They'd been lobbying, saying, you've gotta kill this bill. And as we moved closer and closer to the day of the actual vote, the establishment came in undercover, and they started talking to our legislators, telling them, don't pass that bill.
01:30:08: Don't pass a bill like that, no bill that would actually criminalize abortion and actually provide equal protection.
01:30:14: So the day of the vote itself, over 70 pro -life organizations joined together to put a letter out to legislators across the
01:30:21: United States of America that said that they did not want legislatures to put any bills of equal protection in that would actually call it a crime for everybody involved in killing the child.
01:30:33: They said, we're against criminalizing the mother, which the bill doesn't criminalize the mother.
01:30:39: The bill criminalizes conduct. It criminalizes murder. It doesn't criminalize the mother. It doesn't even really talk about the mother.
01:30:45: The law applies equally to everybody. Just like the laws that protect the lives of born people.
01:30:50: It doesn't single out one particular sex. That day we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection, and we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill.
01:31:04: Of course the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up. There was maybe two or three pro -choicers at the Capitol that day.
01:31:10: That's how much they knew they didn't have to lift a finger, because it was the establishment, the pro -life establishment that came in and tried to convince all of our legislators to not pass the bill, because fundamentally they have a worldview that is not a
01:31:23: Christian worldview. They believe that they can acquit the guilty. There are people who murder their children who should not be seen as guilty of the crime of abortion.
01:31:33: Of course, again, this goes against the biblical worldview. It goes against Christian history and Christian tradition.
01:31:40: Christian churches have always seen everybody involved in killing a child on the womb as guilty, and they need the gospel.
01:31:48: We had our work cut out for us, but it was a big moment. Louisiana was huge because it showed the establishment that this small group of Christians with nowhere near the funds and budget they have can deliver a bigger punch and punch a bigger hole than they ever have in 50 years of Roe vs.
01:32:08: Wade. My name is Zach Lautenschlager. I've worked in professional politics for the last 24 years, focused my career on no compromise political fights, defending the right to keep and bear arms, and working to return to the right to life.
01:32:26: I've worked with End Abortion now for the last three years. Our forefathers sacrificed to that level so that we can stand and fight for the rights to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness using political means.
01:32:48: Louisiana last year, well, earlier this year, is certainly, in the last cycle, is certainly another major milestone as legislation moves from committee to a vote on the floor of one chamber.
01:33:06: As far as we know, that's one of the first where we won a committee vote and it moved to the floor.
01:33:11: And this is the way you measure yardage. You measure progress in politics. Every bill is going to have to go through multiple votes, and if you can start moving through winning some of those, you're definitely making progress.
01:33:25: It's really interesting when you talk about, like, how do you put one of these bills in? The truth is, it's so grassroots and so simple that some of it is, honestly, in terms of political acumen or political power and prowess, it's kind of embarrassing.
01:33:46: It's literally Christians calling up legislators and saying, do you believe it's human from conception?
01:33:52: Yes, I need to talk to you. I'm going to pick up the phone and use the publicly available roster of the
01:34:01: House and Senate in my particular state, and I'm going to call their office and I'm going to ask them, would you consider actually ending abortion?
01:34:08: Would you sponsor legislation to end abortion? That's the basic level. It's that kind of grass roots, mustard seed kind of moves in states that has brought all these about.
01:34:20: It's just been a move of the church going to legislators and saying, you said you believe this. Are you a believer?
01:34:26: Yes. Do you want to protect these children? Yes. This is a bill that's consistent. There's not much to it. Human from conception, all humans deserve equal protection.
01:34:34: Very simple. And so we've been able to work with churches and ourselves talking directly to legislators to find the legislators who want to be brave, find the legislators who are not going to compromise, find the legislators who are going to be consistent and put the bills in those states.
01:34:49: And so, of course, when we get the bill into the state, we gather the churches in that state to rally and also to talk to their legislators to co -sponsor the bill and to pass these bills.
01:35:01: And we're in a new place now because now we're moving into other states in 2023. And one of the states that we have is
01:35:08: Georgia. So it was exhausting. We were all super tired, but it went really well.
01:35:14: Good stuff. The representative we talked to is just a solid believer, loves the
01:35:20: Lord, loves God's law. Didn't even have to teach him Lex Rex. He already believed it and said it himself.
01:35:26: God's law is above man's law and the Constitution. So that was good. He's a good dude.
01:35:33: We got his commitment. He wants to do it. He wants to work with us on what it's going to look like in terms of when he has the debates.
01:35:40: He wants us on his side, Bradley and me, to answer questions as experts.
01:35:47: He wants to be trained. He wants us to do the groundwork to get the public involved.
01:35:52: So he knows what he's doing. Solid dude. We are leaving the hotel right now to go to the Capitol to film the spots that we're going to be releasing when this stuff goes through.
01:36:04: Just short spots. And then we return home tonight. I think we landed like 7 .45
01:36:10: our time. Georgia is another state similar to Louisiana in terms of its prospects.
01:36:18: There are quite a few groups on the ground in Georgia right now that are on the exact same page as we are.
01:36:28: We've met with them. We've talked with them. We're equipping them. They're ready to go.
01:36:34: They're on the gospel message. They're consistent. They're not compromised. And they're ready to raise up other churches across the state of Georgia and to make sure that everyone knows this is going on so that our legislators can get the support that they need and that the
01:36:46: Church of Christ knows about this bill and what's going on. So we were able even to go to Georgia and meet with all of our organizations that are out there some of them.
01:36:57: To meet with them they're all preparing right now for this move as Christians to establish justice for the pre -born in the state of Georgia.
01:37:05: Will it be as impactful as Louisiana and everything that happened there? I think it has the potential to be just as impactful if not more.
01:37:15: Based on the climate right now of course this is the first legislation at this scale that we're going to be able to shine light on since the overturning of Roe v.
01:37:25: Wade which is a big, big deal because legislators politicians no longer have the excuse of waiting on the
01:37:35: Supreme Court to overturn Roe. That's already done and gone and over with.
01:37:40: If anybody has told you that passage of 813 will prevent a single abortion they misled you or they don't know how the law works.
01:37:48: Because the fact of the matter is if we pass this bill and the Senate passes this bill and the Governor signs this bill it will be enjoined the next day.
01:37:56: Because Roe v. Wade is still the law of the land. The U .S. Supreme Court said you can't do this.
01:38:02: Thank you for joining us on this Friday night on a day that changed America. We're outside the
01:38:07: Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe v. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
01:38:15: That excuse is gone. A lot of politicians use that, well we can't defy the federal courts we don't care how much they're defying the
01:38:23: Constitution, we can't defy them well that excuse is gone. You can't use that one anymore.
01:38:29: Roe is gone. Planned Parenthood v. Casey is gone. And a lot of them have said, well we would do what you're saying we would abolish abortion if it weren't for the court.
01:38:39: Well now the court's like, alright here you go. And that's what we're saying too here you go then.
01:38:45: Here's your opportunity. Put your money where your mouth is. Do it. Abolish abortion.
01:38:51: We're up against a pro -life industry that even with Roe v. Wade out of the way, they're still fighting their fight the same way.
01:38:59: 15 week bans, total partiality. You can kill this child but not this child.
01:39:05: Heartbeat bills. Roe v. Wade was never the issue. They're a business they're an industry they're staying alive through regulation we want this to be over and to wash our hands of it and to walk away.
01:39:19: I don't want to do this ministry anymore I want justice established and I want this done.
01:39:25: So, the bill in Georgia it does what the Constitution requires. It provides equal protection
01:39:31: It does what the Georgia Constitution requires. And it provides equal protection and equal protection just means one of the laws protect born people and protect the pre -born equally.
01:39:48: I'm looking forward to the battle that's going to happen. There's going to be the abolitionists on one side.
01:39:53: There's going to be the people who believe consistently that a fetus is a person. They're made in the image of God.
01:40:00: They should be protected from conception until natural death. That's where we should be protecting them.
01:40:06: And a lot of people have said that they believe that, but now they're going to have an opportunity in Georgia to prove it.
01:40:12: Prove it. You say you want to abolish abortion prove it. Do it. Here's the bill. We're going to win.
01:40:19: We're going to win. Period. Jesus is, according to scripture, putting all of his enemies under his feet.
01:40:25: So we're going to win. This is ending. Someday. We're prayerful that Georgia of course establishes justice but this is going under the feet of Jesus.
01:40:36: The church is going to have victory over this. It is an absolute guarantee. Listen.
01:40:42: Listen. Because every second counts. Listen. Because every second counts.
01:40:54: Why do we do bills of equal protection? We do bills of equal protection as Christians because we want to be consistent.
01:41:01: Consistent with God's word. Consistent with human reason and logic.
01:41:06: Equal protection means that all human beings from the moment of conception from the moment of conception are protected and given the same standards of justice.
01:41:15: Equal protection matters to God. In Proverbs 20, 23 God says that unequal weights and measures are an abomination in his sight.
01:41:23: Did you hear that? Unequal weights and measures are an abomination to God. God tells us throughout his word that he expects us to establish justice.
01:41:33: To protect the fatherless. To make sure that all image bearers of God are protected and given justice.
01:41:39: That really is the duty of the Christian church. To love our neighbors as we love ourselves. To treat everybody the same.
01:41:46: This is seen in history always when we think about the issue of slavery. Why was the
01:41:52: Jim Crow era and the issue of slavery such an abomination? It's an abomination because we had image bearers of God.
01:41:59: Human beings who were treated with such depravity. With such evil. With such injustice.
01:42:04: We recognize the evil of saying, yeah I know he looks like a person but it's not a person. It's a black man.
01:42:10: We all see the evil in that. Equal justice matters to God. We can't say, yeah you can kill these humans but not these humans.
01:42:19: Christians God commands us to hate unequal weights and measures and that is why we must have equal protection for all humans from conception.
01:42:35: Foster care system is probably the worst thing going on in the state of Louisiana. Yes it is. I would never want a child to grow up in a foster care system.
01:42:40: It was better when the church had control at the end. We were doing much better with it. I'm sure y 'all were. Let's just be honest with each other.
01:42:47: Do you see your contradictions? Everything is a contradiction. When it comes down to choice nobody else has the right to choose anything that anybody gets to do.
01:42:57: You're a psych major is that what you said? Yes I am. And you just looked up that a person is not a human until they have cognitive reasoning skills.
01:43:06: Is that what you said? No, I said fetuses within a woman. Then you looked it up and you looked up in your book that at 13 is when you have cognitive thinking skills.
01:43:14: I said they develop cognitive thinking skills at 13. The reason you can't, the reason you can't kill this baby right here is because they don't have that.
01:43:23: But your book says at 13 is when they have it. So can we kill 12 year olds? Well a moment ago you said something compelling a second ago.
01:43:30: You said you take an ethics class. You said that tell me if I heard you right. You said that nobody has the right to tell somebody else what to do.
01:43:38: So we shouldn't stop child molesters. So you just contradicted yourself.
01:43:45: That is my moral thinking. That is yours but you don't have any say. I don't have any say.
01:43:52: That's why there's a bunch of child molesters running around. But should we prosecute them? Should we prosecute them? Why not? Should we?
01:43:58: Ought to we prosecute them? That is my moral opinion. But you just said that we should never tell someone what to do.
01:44:03: I didn't tell you to prosecute them. I said in my moral opinion they should be prosecuted.
01:44:09: That does not mean just because I said they should be prosecuted they will be. No but the ought is a moral question.
01:44:16: You take an ethics class. We're talking about oughts. What ought to be the case. And so I think we ought to say for example execute people who kidnapped and enslaved black people.
01:44:26: And I believe that because of God's law. God's law says that they should have been executed and it was morally wrong.
01:44:32: It's an atrocity. But let's say that someone believed what you believed back during the time of slavery and you know we watched the beautiful black men and women on these auction blocks.
01:44:42: We pass by it and then you say hey that's immoral and wrong. We ought not do that. I know the
01:44:48: Christian abolitionists stopped it. Exactly. So we walk by together and we say that's morally wrong and then someone walks by with your argument and says no.
01:44:57: Ethically we can't tell anybody what to do. That is true because you want to know why?
01:45:02: That is true because if something is, let me get this correct because I just did a freaking essay on it and I'm freaking burned.
01:45:10: It's okay I'm listening. If that is the cultural moral law slavery at some point was morally correct according to American culture.
01:45:19: Not according to scripture but the law of the land, yes. According to American culture 400 years ago slavery to some people was morally correct which is why it stood when it did for so long.
01:45:33: And for the civil war to happen and for abolition technically in terms of who said this?
01:45:39: Rachel said that cultural ethical laws cannot be changed.
01:45:46: They can be deemed as incorrect but for somebody to come and try to change the moral cultural laws for a certain society that is wrong which is why we had a civil war because nobody wants their cultural ethical laws to change.
01:45:59: Do you see that there's a problem? I know what you're saying. It's a good point. That's why there's so many different views of morality.
01:46:05: Some people think that happiness should determine how we act. Some people think that reason should determine how we act. You are taking an ethics class I can tell.
01:46:10: That reason should determine the actions that we take. That is my stance. Where does human reason come from?
01:46:17: From any walking breathing person. I can't go out to the lawn over there and dig up the law of non -contradiction.
01:46:26: It's not made of matter. It's an immaterial thing. Laws of logic are immaterial.
01:46:34: Unchanging. But if you believe what this university teaches I imagine that we came from fish.
01:46:41: If you believe we evolved from bacteria through fish to us. I don't think about that. I don't know where the hell we came from.
01:46:47: If I sit here and try to figure out the universe, I would jump off God damn Morse Tower because that would be the new reason for me to climb that tower and jump off.
01:46:55: But you said I'm sorry. I don't hope for that for you at all.
01:47:02: Good. I'm glad. I didn't know if you were giving us a deep thought there. The issue is reason.
01:47:09: But you know that if you've ever read Mein Kampf you can see some pretty convoluted reasoning there.
01:47:15: And he would argue using his perverted reasoning processes that Jews were just parasites.
01:47:24: Jews were parasites. And he was using human reason to display it. The plantation owners that were arguing for slavery had really bad reasoned arguments.
01:47:34: And so if you say human reason is the pinnacle of what is moral and ought you're going to have to wade through a lot of difficult waters of people who are doing some very perverse things with human reason.
01:47:44: So the question is, how do we know what ought to be the case? And the answer is God and His law.
01:47:50: I am not religious. You're very religious. You've been arguing about ethics, what we ought to do.
01:47:56: That's very religious. That's very religious. It is. What is a religion?
01:48:02: Ethics is right or wrong. Religion is beliefs, values, principles. Well, that's, well, right.
01:48:07: When you say something is right or wrong, you're talking about beliefs, values, and principles. So welcome to religion.
01:48:13: But the issue here, ultimately here, the issue here we're displaying here,
01:48:18: I'm glad and I respect you and I honor you because you're made in God's image. What we're saying here is this isn't a biological issue.
01:48:24: This is a moral issue. Not biological. Because what this is is human. There's no question about that.
01:48:31: Like when the slave owners looked at the black people and said, you know, I know it looks like a person. It's not a person.
01:48:37: It's a black woman. That was moral. Right. But what was true is that all of us come from the same parents.
01:48:48: We're all part of the human race. We're all human. You're as much human as I'm human. And so what they were doing is they were saying, you know,
01:48:57: I'm going to say not human. And what we're doing with this little boy is we're saying not human.
01:49:02: Same problem. I think everyone knows that when they're having... I would hope that every woman who could carry a child knew her child was human and not like the antichrist or something.
01:49:12: Oh yeah, no, that's a good point. The young lady over there... Somebody's like sitting here like, yeah, let me abort my horse.
01:49:18: Well, actually they're very good. That's very good. We know what we're doing. Honestly, okay, you know what?
01:49:25: As somebody who is pro -choice, I've never seen someone who's got an abortion and has not regretted it for whatever reason.
01:49:32: Why? Whether it was because of the physical and mental strain that it caused. Why would it be mental strain?
01:49:39: Because you have to go through this entire... You don't even know it's going to work. I've seen many people get abortions and they still ended up having a baby.
01:49:47: Praise God. Right, glory to God to them. They have their little precious baby. What's it called?
01:49:54: Their precious baby. Yes, they have their baby. That they told you it was a human being. So what makes it a precious baby is my choosing it?
01:50:01: If I have a baby and I choose that this shit is not a precious baby, that's my choice. So you can choose to say like the plantation owners,
01:50:07: I don't see you as fully human. I'm not going to kill my baby. That's just like ridiculous. Why? Actually, you know what? I probably will.
01:50:13: I don't give a fuck. There you go. Yeah, because that is my choice. Because in reality...
01:50:18: I have four months pregnant and I don't want it. I'm going to terminate it. Right, you're going to kill your baby.
01:50:24: Because why would I put such a burden of human life on myself? First of all, kids are expensive.
01:50:30: I know. It's expensive to have kids. Yes. Across the way, if you have a dog... Yes, what is this?
01:50:36: If you have a dog and you say you don't want the dog, just say you believe in the rule. I'm not going to sell it. Why not just shoot it?
01:50:44: Because who the fuck is out here shooting dogs? That's just weird. We're not just shooting.
01:50:52: We're decapitating I did not birth that dog. The dog's mom decided she wanted to keep the dog.
01:50:58: Whoever the dog breeder was decided that my dog is having babies and she's going to have those babies.
01:51:03: That is her choice. If I choose to sell... If I choose to shoot my dog, sell the fuck what?
01:51:11: What does that have to do with you? Not a goddamn thing. That is my moral wrong. So you're okay with shooting the dog?
01:51:16: I'm not okay with shooting dogs. I'm not out here just shooting people's dogs or shooting my own dogs. Why would I shoot my own dogs when they're my goddamn dogs and I sat here and fucking paid for them?
01:51:23: It's either okay or it's not. No, it's my choice or it's not. Kaya, why are you so angry?
01:51:29: Because, y 'all are like it's like talking to a wall. It's like I'm right here with it. We're talking with you.
01:51:36: We've refuted a lot of your arguments. And I'm... No, it's not.
01:51:42: It's not. Kaya, remember a while ago? You don't let me say this. If I choose to set this thing on fire, that's my choice.
01:51:47: If I choose to shoot my dog that I found on the corner of the street who followed me home, that is my choice.
01:51:53: If I choose to terminate a baby at eight months, that is my choice. So if someone walks by you and chooses to punch you in the face and take your purse, you're cool with that because it was their choice?
01:52:02: That would be weird. But yes, that was their fucking choice to make. Is it moral? No, it's not. Thank you.
01:52:07: Says who? Says myself because that is my choice to make. But the rapist, he makes a choice and says,
01:52:14: I like it. That is his choice. That does not mean it's moral. Thank you very much. So what we're saying is that ultimately
01:52:19: God is the... No, this is not about God. Oh, it's very much about God. If this is all
01:52:26: God's plan, then it was God's plan for me to terminate my baby. Well, no. We sin against God.
01:52:31: We violate God's law. What's that?
01:52:37: Oh, I'm so glad you asked that. Yeah, come on in. Did you say what does God have to do with legislation?
01:52:43: Talk about slavery in the Holocaust. No, she's asking a different question.
01:52:49: Can I answer that? Would you mind if I answer it? Separation of church and state. Everybody go home, shoot your dogs, set your house on fire.
01:52:55: Would you mind if I showed her the respect? That is your choice. Just know that. Would you mind if I showed her the respect of answering your question?
01:53:03: Good. Okay, so you asked the question of separation of church and state. That doctrine of separation of church and state, if you like it, you should thank a
01:53:13: Christian for it because Christians developed that in history. The separation of church and state did not mean the separation of God and state.
01:53:22: They were trying to avoid the Church of England situation where the church is controlled by the state. Separation of church and state is not in our constitutional documents.
01:53:31: You can find it in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Dansbury Baptists reiterating the Christian historical doctrine of separation of church and state.
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01:54:38: pregnant. We can go as low as 11 because of how menstruation works. Right. 11 year old gets pregnant, you're forcing that 11 year old to keep that baby and birth that baby even though 11 year olds are not supposed to give birth.
01:54:50: It's an evil, can I answer that? It's an evil, evil thing you're talking about because you're talking about a man doing something to a girl's body apart from her will and her choice.
01:55:03: Right. And so if you're against rape, you should be fully against abortion because what's happening in abortion is a person is doing to something that I am answering and I'm not finished.
01:55:13: Sometimes, sometimes. No, I'm trying to you cut me off. I didn't get to finish.
01:55:19: So it takes sometimes more than five sentences to answer a question. So I was saying that if if you believe that rape is wrong and repulsive, you should be against the issue of abortion because what's happening in rape is the same in principle issue that's happening in rape.
01:55:36: Someone is doing something to somebody's body apart from their will. Right. And without their permission.
01:55:41: I believe that the man who rapes the 11 year old girl. Right. I believe that he deserves the death penalty.
01:55:47: You believe the child deserves a death penalty. You still. Fundamentally different.
01:55:54: Yes or no. Pursue the rapist. You would force that 11 year old to give birth. When you say force, when you say force, you're assuming the category of the option to murder the child.
01:56:07: What happened in a rape was an evil, immoral thing that you haven't responded to yet in terms of.
01:56:14: I did. Yes or no. I believe we should pursue the rapist. And like Brian said, you should not punish the child for the crime of the father.
01:56:21: The 11 year old would have to stay pregnant and give birth. I believe that we should not take one issue where there's a victim and create two victims.
01:56:28: You're arguing create more victims. I just answered you. We should not create. I'm answering you.
01:56:34: I'm answering you. If you would let me say it. We should not. We should not, like you suggest, create more victims.
01:56:41: You already have a victim and a crime. We should pursue. We should pursue the rapist.
01:56:52: She's a victim. She's a victim. Well, you call it trauma, right?
01:56:57: And I agree. And I agree. And I agree.
01:57:03: And I agree. I agree. Do you see what happened is that you didn't let me finish the thought.
01:57:09: Let me finish. I said you call it trauma. And I agree.
01:57:15: But why is it trauma? Because someone did something to her body against her will.
01:57:22: You're forcing her. That's what happens in abortion. So if you're against rape, you should be against abortion.
01:57:29: I'd like to hear you respond to that because you haven't yet. If what that abortion is equivalent to rape, it's a human being doing something to another human being.
01:57:38: I don't know why you're speaking Latin here. Fetus means small child or baby. So you can speak
01:57:44: English. We're in Louisiana. You guys do talk kind of funny, but when there's a sperm cell and an egg cell that are still in the process of conjoining.
01:57:53: No, it's when, when. And it's a very good question. You have a library here.
01:57:59: Okay. And all biological textbooks, all biological textbooks. You can check this out. You can leave right from here and find it out.
01:58:06: All biological textbooks will, will argue and agree today without question is not disputed that all human life begins at the moment of conception, the very moment of conception.
01:58:15: You, you, and what's your name? My name is Annie. I'm Jeff. I'm Jeff. It's not a lie. Go look it up.
01:58:21: Um, the moment of conception, all human life is at the moment of conception. So you,
01:58:26: Annie, where the you, you are today as a human at that very moment, the only difference was the difference of size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependence.
01:58:35: Biologically speaking, you were the you, you are now at that moment of conception.
01:58:40: That's indisputable today. Okay.
01:58:47: So let's try. Can I try any of those grown adults? Great. Great. So, so we can kill, we can kill nine -year -olds then.
01:58:54: Cause you said grown adults makes you human. I believe that rapists who go so far as to abuse a woman deserve capital punishment.
01:59:05: Yes. We should protect innocent life, but the rapist is not innocent. He's guilty. You think we should kill him?
01:59:11: You believe we should kill the children. We believe the rapist should be killed. You believe in the death penalty for the baby.
01:59:21: We believe in it for the rapist. Yes. And I stand very proud on that. Under the medical procedure of terminating, murdering a child, whatever is much different than killing.
01:59:32: You're using a lot of, you're using a lot of euphemisms. When you said fetus, that's a Latin word. It means baby.
01:59:38: And when you said abortion, it's a euphemism for the unjustified taking of human life. So you can, you can speak with as much clarity as you want.
01:59:46: I think he just said that he wants to protect the lives of rapists. That is what he said.
01:59:51: I don't think, I don't, I don't want to put words in your mouth. Do you believe that we should protect the lives of rapists?
02:00:02: I'm not sure. I'd like him to answer. So do you, do you believe we should protect the lives of rapists?
02:00:11: Yes or no? Annie? Yes. Go ahead. Right. Well, you guys were, you guys were, you guys were, were actually mocking the fact that as Christians, we believe
02:00:22: God's law, that a man who rapes a woman deserves to die because he's guilty. You mock that.
02:00:28: But you guys believe that we should kill the child. We believe the rapist should be killed.
02:00:34: Judicially. You believe that children should be killed. I have, by the way, I have friends who are the products of rape.
02:00:40: I have friends who were the products of rape. They stand here arguing with you right now saying, I thank God that I wasn't killed for the crime of my father.
02:00:47: They are beautiful, amazing, thriving human beings today. Should we kill them? Not now.
02:00:53: They're the products of rape. But you're arguing that the products of rape should be executed. I'm arguing that we're arguing that it's up to the mother because at that point for the next nine months, the mother's going to be carrying the child for the next 18 plus years.
02:01:05: She's going to be carrying. She's carrying a what? The child. Okay. That's what I think she said carrying the child.
02:01:10: If this is the argument that y 'all are working off of, you know, that's what you said, Annie. That's what you said.
02:01:16: I guess it was a Freudian slip. I don't know. But you said the mother carries a child in the womb. Does this make y 'all feel good to be like, no, we love you.
02:01:23: We love you. We love you. We care for you. Let's go back to what I was saying. Okay. We're saying that it's up to the mother, right?
02:01:29: Because the zygote at that point, the egg and the sperm of her rapist are not going to survive outside of her body.
02:01:34: Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's not here. Yeah. It's not, I'm just saying it's not an egg and a sperm. I thought
02:01:40: I couldn't interrupt you, but if they, if they combine, right. Okay. Can I please finish? Yes. Right. So the zygote's not going to exist without her.
02:01:47: The zygote is totally dependent on the mother for the next nine months and potentially for the rest of her life. We're saying it should be up to the mother because she has to deal with the trauma.
02:01:55: Oftentimes like rape addicts, especially in Louisiana, where they're not getting the treatment they need. They're contracting STIs. They have
02:02:00: PTSD. They turn to addiction, all those sorts of things. So what you're doing is you're condemning that mother to an awful life to continue living with like the repercussion of her rape and this reminder of the trauma she went through.
02:02:12: Because unless you're also advocating for like stopping the backlog of rape kits and you're advocating for like comprehensive sex education, more than just abstinence only sex education and free contraceptive and free
02:02:24: STI testing and welfare and welfare for black mothers. Can I respond to all that? Can I respond?
02:02:30: I'm still finishing. Okay. Unless you're making about 10 different points. I'd like to respond to any one of them.
02:02:35: Here's the argument that you guys are like supporting the life and that we're murderers for wanting like mothers to be able to decide if they are raped, what they do with the zygote.
02:02:44: And I'm saying that you're condemning those women to an awful life. You're saying they justify to be in like psychological death for the rest of their lives.
02:02:52: Can I respond now? Now that I'm done, you can respond. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. So you made an argument that because the human being, because when the sperm and egg meet, it makes a unique human being.
02:03:04: So you're using a lot of euphemisms, but the human being from conception is dependent upon the mother. And so therefore she ought to be able to kill it because it's dependent upon her.
02:03:12: So you wouldn't have any argument then with the mother who pulled over there. This is fairly recently in our history.
02:03:17: She pulled over to the side of the road. She turned around and shot her like six and eight year old kid in the chest and killed them. They were both dependent upon her, both dependents.
02:03:25: Right. And so, so that's, that's, that's, that's a significant issue in terms of when you talk about dependence, that it's dependent upon me.
02:03:33: So I ought to be able to kill it. Jeff, it's not the same thing because she could have dismembered them as children are in the womb.
02:03:39: Right. I mean, shooting them in the chest was a lot less painful than them being, their limbs being removed one by one until they bled.
02:03:46: Yeah. And, and you'll, I'm going to, I'm going to finish shooting of children. I'm going to, I'm going to answer her question.
02:03:52: You've already, you've already been refuted up and down my friend. So we're spending 45 minutes with you. So the next thing, when you said dependence, my,
02:04:00: I have a two year old and he, I have, I have five kids. My two year old is fully dependent upon me, fully dependent upon me.
02:04:07: Can I kill him? Cause he's dependent without argument, work in court. It wouldn't work in court. Can I, can I explain? Well, well, yes, go ahead.
02:04:15: I'll add, you had a lot of points I was trying to get to, but go ahead. Yeah, for sure. I don't know if I have the patience to stay here for the whole time. I think you're conflating different types of dependence, right?
02:04:22: So like, obviously your two year old is economically dependent on you because he can't hold his own job. So he's relying on you, your family structure, your community, your neighborhood, those sorts of things.
02:04:31: What I'm talking about. I mean, he's not, he's not just economically dependent. Yeah. And like mentally, because like you have an emotional bond, whatever.
02:04:38: He can't drive a car, all those sorts of things. I'm not, okay. What's. See, there's more than, more than just a simple category.
02:04:46: You and I go out of degrees of dependence on other humans, our entire lives. When you were, when you were, when you were, well,
02:04:53: I wasn't finished either. And you tried to get, you tried to, I know, but now I'd like to,
02:04:58: I'd like to respond to that though. Well, I, you had about 10 points. I was addressing one and then you wanted to respond.
02:05:05: You didn't let me do that. So I'm just trying to respond as much as I can. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
02:05:11: And now, and now I'm going to respond to your point and demonstrate that it's an error.
02:05:17: Um, you and I go through different degrees of dependence as human beings, our entire lives. From the moment we come into this world, we're fully dependent.
02:05:25: Like nursing moms are displaying fully that their children are dependent upon them to survive.
02:05:32: You wouldn't argue. I don't think that a nursing mother who just at nine months in said, this is a hassle.
02:05:39: It's, it's difficult for me. I'm going to go ahead and decapitate this child. You wouldn't argue that that's justified.
02:05:45: Would you? Will I be able to answer fully now? If I, if I respond right now, can I answer fully?
02:05:51: Sure. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. So what I was talking about in terms of dependence earlier was there's like a level of biological dependence during the nine months from which the egg and sperm cell develop.
02:06:04: And so at that point, that organism, the zygote is not living independently. So that's when we're talking about like, we would,
02:06:12: I think all of us would disagree that it isn't a fully fledged human with a belief system and with the morality.
02:06:17: So you disagree with all biological science then? But the consciousness of like, so what if someone's in a coma, can
02:06:23: I stab them while they're in the coma? That would be up to the family to determine. Can I stab them in the coma?
02:06:28: You've been asked this about 10 times and you can't respond to it. Can I stab them? Who is reaching inside and stabbing a baby?
02:06:35: What is that? Oh my goodness. Are you serious? Do you want to see a video of it? That's actually how it's done.
02:06:42: It's done by crushing the skull, pulling the legs off, pulling the arms off. This is the issue.
02:06:50: Can I just say this to you with respect? Why are you using that terminology?
02:06:57: When the sperm and the egg meet, it's not sperm and egg for nine months as you tried to suggest.
02:07:03: When the sperm and the egg meet, it's a unique human being from the moment of conception. That's the truth.
02:07:10: It's not whatever, it's the truth. You're at a university and I expect more from university students. It's not, when we talk about dependence, that baby can't survive outside the womb.
02:07:25: It's a human being. It's a human being. We live in a world that God made where babies are formed in the wombs of mothers.
02:07:33: There's no getting around that. It's a very simple issue.
02:07:42: You don't have any basis to be arguing for anything left, right, up or down apart from the biblical worldview.
02:07:47: Do you agree with the evolutionary perspective of origins? Do you believe in it?
02:07:53: Yes. So you believe your ancestors were fish? Yes. So why are you out here arguing? So what's amazing is the mockery.
02:08:11: You're mocking somebody for what, for you think something is true and they don't believe it, so you're mocking them. And yet you believe that your ancestors, your ancestors, you believe were bacteria.
02:08:22: Science depends upon the uniformity in nature and induction. So you tell me as someone who believes that your ancestors were fish and that you live in a godless, unguided universe, give me a justification that satisfies the preconditions of intelligibility.
02:08:36: You don't have an answer, young lady. You don't have, you don't have an answer. Fantastic. Fantastic.
02:08:44: So can you answer the question? Can you answer the question? That's a
02:08:50: Christian doctrine. What did it mean? Who gave that to the world? Who gave, who gave the separation of church and state?
02:08:58: Can I ask you to please don't interrupt her. Can I ask you, you said church and states. Where did that doctrine come from?
02:09:03: Oh, I don't know, like moral, like common sense. No, it came from the Christian church. It came from the biblical worldview.
02:09:09: And what did it mean? What did it mean? It means that we need to separate legislation. Nope. That's not what it means.
02:09:15: That's not what Thomas Jefferson said. That's not what the Huguenots or the Puritans meant.
02:09:20: There are more than just Christians. Right, right. We cannot enforce our religious beliefs on other people.
02:09:26: So what if someone says they want to enslave a black person? Are they allowed to do that? No. Who says? What are you talking about?
02:09:33: Who stopped it? It's logical fallacies, it's logical fallacies. Who stopped, who stopped the enslavement? Christian abolitionists, based upon the law, word of God.
02:09:41: That doesn't mean that. Okay, so you're saying that. It was an atheist. Wait, so you're saying that only Christians atheists, atheists, atheists borrow from the
02:09:50: Christian worldview to be opposed to slavery. But let me tell you, if you believe your ancestors are bacteria, you have no justifiable ultimate objection to slavery because your ancestors are fish, correct?
02:10:03: Okay. There's where the legs fall off, ladies and gentlemen. And you're going to take all of what we're saying out of context.
02:10:13: Oh, it'll be all in context. Oh, we'll put it all together. We'll put it all together. Audio is being recorded.
02:10:20: So what you have here instead, that's not true. No, that's what he said. No one can hear. There's no, there's no mic over there.
02:10:28: I'll be in view. Yeah. When I say that it's really unfortunate that you guys all this debate about choice, but you don't believe that we have the choice to monitor what happens within our own bodies.
02:10:37: And just the utter lack of compassion for people who experienced probably the most traumatic event why is it traumatic?
02:10:44: I want you to explain. I want you to explain. Can you, can you, can you tell us why
02:10:51: I want to hear you explain why? Cause I know why I think it's morally evil, but why, according to your worldview, why is it traumatic?
02:11:00: I'm going to say as someone who's experienced sexual violence, I don't have like the emotional ability to stand here and hear you twist my words and tell me that what happened isn't bad enough for me to have autonomy over my own body.
02:11:11: So like, so you believe in bodily autonomy. I don't have, how about, how about him? Did he have bodily autonomy?
02:11:17: I don't have the mental energy. Okay. God bless you.
02:11:22: I'll pray for you, Annie. It was good right until the wheels fell. Our ancestors were fish.
02:11:29: That doesn't hurt. That doesn't hurt. Your ancestors are bacteria.
02:11:35: You're not a Christian. No, you're not. You deny God's word. Is Christ a
02:11:40: Lord of all? You believe that our ancestors were fish and yet you say
02:11:47: Christ is your savior? Yes, because I believe in evolution. So you don't believe the Bible. You don't believe the
02:11:53: Bible. So you don't believe Jesus, his word. You don't believe that his word should be the standard.
02:12:00: Do you follow Christ? He said, you shall not murder. What's this? Oh, come on. That's not murder.
02:12:06: It's the unjustified taking of human life. That's an image bearer of God. Look at you and he would hate you. Okay. How do you, how do you know that?
02:12:13: Because he had a message. How do you know, how do you know what, how do you know Christ's message? Where did you get
02:12:18: Christ's message from? And I go to church and I pray to God. Wait, no, where did, where did you learn? This is all for you guys.
02:12:23: Listen, you're not, you're not, you're not listening. Where did you get Christ's message? Where did you find it? Did you read it somewhere?
02:12:29: I found it in my parents. I found it in my community. I didn't listen to hateful bigots like you all.
02:12:36: That wasn't very nice. You said we're being, you said we're being, you said we're being unloving, but you've been insulting the whole time.
02:12:44: So who's being loving? Who's being loving? I'm loving to lots of other people. You're the one that's trying to force trauma on children.
02:12:52: No, you are. You're saying kill the children. We're trying to stop children from being traumatized. No, you're not.
02:12:58: You do nothing to help girls. Actually I do. So I wanted to answer this a moment ago and we were arguing.
02:13:04: No, you said I've done nothing. I've actually, I've actually started medical clinics in the state of Louisiana where women receive free medical care when they have a crisis pregnancy.
02:13:16: Last year, last year to kill their baby.
02:13:22: Last year we helped over 1100 women in the state of Louisiana in a crisis pregnancy center.
02:13:29: You realize, of course, of course we helped them along the way.
02:13:36: We, we, some of them chose to place their child for adoption. Many of them chose life for their child.
02:13:44: No, no, no. They weren't forced. They wanted to keep their children. It sounds as if you're upset that these women, 1100 women kept their children and we provided them the support so they could do that.
02:13:57: They want to murder their child. They want to murder their child. It shouldn't be legal. We'll give, we'll give them the gospel and love them.
02:14:04: Of course we support and love them, but we don't support children being killed. But you said
02:14:13: I have no compassion. There's 1100 women that I've helped in a crisis pregnancy. How many of you have?
02:14:22: Hey everyone, this is Pastor Jeff Durbin with End Abortion Now. For the past seven years, many of you all have stood with us.
02:14:29: You have served alongside of us. You've given financially to this ministry that is dedicated to ending one of the greatest injustices of our day, and that's the slaughter of our pre -born neighbors.
02:14:41: God has blessed us in this ministry, and we're a part of this ministry fundamentally because we're
02:14:47: Christians. The goal of this ministry is to end abortion in Jesus' name as Christians.
02:14:54: We wanted to have a ministry in the area of abortion that was focused on Christ, focused on the gospel, and focused on telling the truth to our culture.
02:15:04: We wanted to do this ministry explicitly as Christians under the banner of the gospel with local churches working together across the
02:15:13: United States of America and around the world. And that's what God has done. God has allowed us to raise up over 900 local churches equipped and trained absolutely for free with no cost to them to go out to their local abortion mills to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope to mothers and fathers who are going inside.
02:15:33: And because of that effort, we have saved tens of thousands of lives. You've been a part of that with us.
02:15:39: If you've prayed for us, if you've given financially over the last seven years, you've been a part of that effort to raise those churches up.
02:15:47: Babies are being saved every single day across the United States of America because of your work together with us.
02:15:53: So I want to first say from my heart, thank you for being a part of this ministry with us.
02:15:58: We've also, because of your help with us over all of these years, been able to give the message of the gospel on our media platforms globally in conflict with the issue of abortion.
02:16:09: It's changed hearts. It's changed minds. We have messages on our platforms of mothers who came across our content who were on their way to the abortion facility to have their abortion.
02:16:21: And now their babies are alive today because of that message. We've been able to raise up churches, raise up Christians to speak consistently to their neighbors, to their communities, and to their legislatures in this area of abortion because of the content that you've helped us to build.
02:16:35: So I want to say thank you again for that. And we've been able through your help together with us to have bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization go into states across the
02:16:46: United States of America. Bills in Arizona, in Texas, in South Carolina, in Louisiana, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado, and there's more coming.
02:16:56: All of this has happened because you've partnered together with us to end this evil and this great injustice that's perpetrated upon our preborn neighbors.
02:17:05: And so thank you for being a part of this with us. As many of you know, the numbers are staggering.
02:17:12: 60 million plus human beings have been killed in our nation since Roe versus Wade.
02:17:18: 60 million plus and counting. There's more and more all the time. Now, we're thankful that we were able to participate in the amicus brief filed by our constitutional attorney,
02:17:29: Bradley Pierce, in the Dobbs case, which ultimately overturned Roe versus Wade. We knew that Roe versus Wade needed to go away.
02:17:36: It was an injustice, an evil court opinion that the states should have actually resisted. However, that Roe decision was actually in the way of us establishing justice in the states.
02:17:48: And now that Roe is out of the way, we have almost 10 states committed to putting in bills of abolition in our union at the beginning of next legislative session.
02:17:59: So we have that happening and Roe is out of the way. I want to just speak to this for a moment. Many, many people believe that essentially this fight is really basically over because Roe is out of the way.
02:18:11: I want to say that the fight has only just begun. Roe's being overturned has not established justice for the preborn.
02:18:17: We are not anywhere close to equal protection. We don't have criminalization in the states across the United States of America where true justice is established for our neighbors.
02:18:25: And so our fight has really just started. We want to ask you to partner with us in 2023.
02:18:31: Once again, we have over 900 churches that are already a part of our network. We are adding more all the time.
02:18:37: We are producing more content that is changing hearts and changing minds and saving lives.
02:18:43: You can see those stories at endabortionnow .com. And we have 10 states right now that we are working in to put bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization in, in the first quarter of next legislative session.
02:18:56: So we need you to partner with us again in 2023. It is going to be our most important year yet.
02:19:01: So with the 900 churches and with a new website that actually helps you to partner with us in a much more comprehensive way, we have something special for 2023, and that is that you can go to our new website, endabortionnow .com,
02:19:17: and you can actually click on your state. You can see the churches that are involved in your state that are saving lives, the lives that have been saved.
02:19:25: You're going to be able to hear those stories, and we've made it easy for Christians across the country to fight this battle with us in your particular state.
02:19:34: You go to endabortionnow .com, you go to where the states are, you click on the state, you'll be able to see the lives that have been saved, and you'll be able to also connect directly to the legislators in your state.
02:19:46: We have everything already prepared for you. It's a pre -filled out form you can send directly to the legislators in your state.
02:19:53: We also have a petition you could sign in your state to put on the desks of the people who need to see it.
02:19:59: We've done all the work for you. We've made it simple so that you can partner with us in your state to establish justice.
02:20:06: All that is coming in 2023. It's our most important year. We need you to stand with us.
02:20:12: Since we started this work, this has grown in incredible ways. It is truly the grace of God that has brought us to this place, and it is through believers just like you that partnered with us from the very beginning that helped us.
02:20:27: We're not a massive ministry. We're not huge. We don't have the tens of millions of dollars coming in like the pro -life organizations.
02:20:33: We are a local church that is equipping and training other local churches to save lives, and that is going to legislators across the country and saying we demand justice immediately, end abortion now.
02:20:45: And we've only been able to do this because believers just like you have put your hands in my hands and partnered with me in this ministry with our team to make this happen.
02:20:55: You've done this with us. So all of the tens of thousands of babies that are alive today are alive because of God's people sacrificing, praying, partnering with us.
02:21:04: All of the bills that are going in next year to establish justice are happening because believers just like you join together with us financially.
02:21:13: We need your help. We try as a ministry to stay lean and mean, and we try as a ministry to make sure that we're as effective as we can possibly be with the truth and with very little budget that we need.
02:21:27: And so this year we need a little over a million dollars for the budget for 2023. I'll give you an example.
02:21:33: In one state last year, Louisiana, that bill itself that was unprecedented and it did a lot of damage, that bill was tens of thousands of dollars to put into place and to work.
02:21:45: And so God blessed it, but we need your partnership as we do this fight. So will you partner with me in 2023?
02:21:53: Help us as a ministry, as a church, as Christians to end this injustice in Jesus' name.
02:21:59: We're doing this as Christians. We're doing this because the gospel. We're doing this because we're called to love our neighbors and to lay our lives down for them.
02:22:05: And we're doing this fundamentally so that we don't have to do it anymore. We don't want to see this regulated.
02:22:12: We're not starting a business. For us, this isn't an industry. We're a church. We're trying to speak the gospel in this area to overcome it with the light of the gospel, and we're trying to wash our hands of it and then walk away from it once justice is established.
02:22:25: Will you help us do that? Will you join us in 2023 with a donation? Give towards this work.
02:22:31: Help us to raise up more churches. Help us to save more lives, many more lives, and help us to establish justice at the state level.
02:22:39: Partner with us in 2023. I want to thank you for all you ever have done, and I want to thank you for what you give in 2023.
02:22:47: Endabortionnow .com is where you go. Check this site out. You can give there, and please participate in all the new features we have there so you can help us in all the states that we're working in to end abortion now.
02:23:08: Hello, my name is Tim, and I am the web manager here at End Abortion Now. I have the absolute joy and pleasure to present to you the new and updated endabortionnow .com.
02:23:22: I want to show you just a glimpse into what our donors accomplished this last year by showing you some new tools that will impact the way we politically fight to end abortion around the
02:23:34: United States. At the beginning of 2023, End Abortion Now will be going to be filing 10 state bills of equal protection.
02:23:43: We will be going to Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Louisiana, Texas, South Dakota, and finally
02:23:53: Arkansas. That may sound great and all, but why does it really matter?
02:23:59: Sometimes when we talk about politics, we can really lose sight of what we're actually doing here in trying to end abortion.
02:24:07: We are saving lives. Let me show you why these new tools will impact the way we approach the mission of ending abortion.
02:24:16: Let's go to the new interactive map. Now, let's go to the state of Georgia, since we will be submitting a bill of equal protection there next year.
02:24:26: Scroll down, and there you'll see 114 babies murdered through abortion every single day.
02:24:37: One hundred and fourteen. That means by the end of watching this video, one baby will have died.
02:24:45: By the time we get to the state of Georgia next year, 10 ,260 babies will have been murdered.
02:24:52: If you're like me, you want to do something about this, but know nothing about politics.
02:24:58: This is why we've made it easy through this new tool on endabortionnow .com.
02:25:05: If you continue to follow me on Georgia's state page, you will see two primary calls to action that you can take.
02:25:12: Number one, sign the petition. When we submit the bills of equal protection in Georgia and all the other states next year, we want to present a stack of names to the representatives there for political leverage.
02:25:29: How? Tell them if they do not support the bill, they will have thousands of their voters voting them out.
02:25:37: It's easy to do. Just go to your state, click on sign the petition.
02:25:43: It takes no time, no commitment. The second thing we've created is the state page.
02:25:50: Among state -specific data, you will see a contact your representative button. When you see us in your state next year, and when you get an email from us telling you to contact your representatives, you want to click this button.
02:26:03: You will see the list of every pro -life politician in your state. You will then systematically email and call each of them, clicking on their names, clicking their email address, copying and pasting the message.
02:26:19: Then you can grab your phone and call them. Use the on -screen script to help assist you in that phone call.
02:26:27: This is what it takes to save the lives of children like little Dakota. You can read about her on the homepage.
02:26:34: This is what it takes to save the lives of precious babies like Savaria, Keyshawn, Kingston, Navy, Rosie, River, all the babies on our testimony page.
02:26:44: These new tools equip us to finally see an end to abortion in these states.
02:26:50: Using these tools is a means of protecting and giving life to thousands of little children this year, and thousands more to come.
02:26:58: If you haven't already, please consider helping us end abortion in these states this year.
02:27:04: The cost is great if we continue to do nothing. It's the price of tens of thousands of babies.
02:27:12: But the cost to you right now might be your financial support and handful of phone calls.
02:27:19: It's worth it. Please join us this year. If you feel led to give, please do so.
02:27:26: Click on the link somewhere in this video or go visit the new site at abortionnow .com.
02:27:32: As you can see, our donors change lives. God bless you all, and I look forward to see what
02:27:40: God will do with your support in the following years. You know, when we first started our ministry to bring the gospel to the abortion mills, we saw the need.
02:28:06: We knew what scripture said about it to rescue those who were being led to death. And so we thought, well, obviously, this is something the
02:28:13: Christian church should do. That's where the Christian church belongs. We want to bring the gospel there, tell the truth, especially there, if anywhere.
02:28:22: So we started building everything up to get out to the abortion mill and to bring a team, to bring the gospel.
02:28:29: We wanted to make sure we had, you know, people on standby even to adopt children. And we just wanted to save lives and see people come to Christ.
02:28:38: I mean, I can remember putting up the camera and, you know, live streaming us at the abortion mill so we can show believers that, look, we're saving children's lives.
02:28:46: We're seeing saves. We're seeing turnaways. We're having gospel conversations. We turned the live stream on, and the comment section was just filled with people who were professing believers.
02:28:58: Not unbelievers, but professing believers who were saying things like, that's not how you reach those women.
02:29:04: This isn't the right way to do it. This seems very abrasive. This seems mean -spirited because we were saying, please don't murder your children.
02:29:13: When we initially started doing that, it was the beginning of this whole ministry. And so we had fruit.
02:29:19: We had, you know, babies' lives being saved and us doing baby showers for mothers who turned away from the clinic.
02:29:26: We didn't have a lot of experience with, well, how do you deal with Christians who are telling you, don't go out into the public square with the truth?
02:29:33: Don't tell a minutes away from murdering her child, please don't murder your child.
02:29:39: The only way these women are going to come to Christ is if we give them the gospel. The only way their babies are going to be saved is if the church is there, you know, standing up for these children.
02:29:48: And the only way we can actually minister to these women in the long run is if we show up. And so we were surprised.
02:29:55: We were surprised. What ended up happening was so many babies started being saved from this ministry that we stopped responding to people who were in the comments saying, this is wrong, you shouldn't do it.
02:30:11: We just started sharing pictures of the babies that have been saved. So somebody would make, you know, a nasty comment.
02:30:18: We would just share a picture of Olivia Grace and Cara, or we'd share a picture of Carmelo and that would tend to silence them.
02:30:28: I don't think it's wrong to say, you know, all right, I'm willing to be open to correction.
02:30:33: If there's a better way to do this at the abortion mill to bring the gospel and save lives, I'm all ears.
02:30:39: How many babies have you saved? How many women have you seen turn to Christ through your methodology?
02:30:45: And the answer was crickets. We have trained up and raised about 900 local churches, mostly across the
02:30:55: U .S., but also around the world in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland. We've been to Scotland.
02:31:01: It's happening in Canada, Australia, New Zealand. I mean, really all over. Churches are getting free training and free resources from us to just go out and bring the gospel into this particular area.
02:31:14: The Bible actually gives us a view into what the spirit of God was doing within his people, in the public square, with the gospel message.
02:31:25: We get a picture of the methodology that actually God used to change the world.
02:31:32: End Abortion Now is a ministry of Apologia Church. It's a local church's ministry to bring the truth of the gospel into conflict with abortion in the public square, in every area.
02:31:44: And so we knew we needed to bring the church to the abortion mill. We needed to bring the gospel there.
02:31:50: We needed to save lives. We needed to raise churches up, and we needed to teach and speak into the culture through all the media platforms we have to tell them the truth about this issue of abortion and to bring the truth into conflict with error and with darkness in this area.
02:32:05: And we needed also to bring the truth to legislators who are responsible before God to establish justice and to preserve these lives.
02:32:15: And it is a very important area for the church to be involved in because the pro -life establishment, the pro -life industry, has sort of been in charge of fighting this battle since the beginning of Roe v.
02:32:28: Wade. And the pro -life establishment is explicit. They express it themselves that they are not approaching this as Christians explicitly.
02:32:38: The head of National Right to Life has said that explicitly, that their organization tries to approach this from a neutral perspective, not as Christians, not with the gospel, not with the call to repentance.
02:32:50: If the problem of abortion is sin, if it's in fact evil, then the only solution is
02:32:55: God's Word, God's truth, and the gospel itself. People aren't going to come to life apart from the words of life.
02:33:02: And so the pro -life establishment has fought with compromise. They've fought with neutrality, and the result has been over 62 million dead babies.
02:33:13: The result has been, in states across the union, bills of partiality, unequal weights and measures.
02:33:20: I mean, the pro -life establishment actually promoting and advocating for and accepting bills that say you can kill these humans, but not these humans.
02:33:30: Things that God hates. He says unequal weights and measures are an abomination to Him.
02:33:36: We've been able to get bills of equal protection. Equal protection from conception.
02:33:41: All human life begins at conception. It's in the very image of God, and all human life deserves equal protection.
02:33:47: We've been able to get those kinds of bills into legislatures across the country, from Oklahoma to Arizona to Texas to South Carolina to Philadelphia to Ohio to Louisiana.
02:33:58: The problem has been that the pro -life establishment has been the major force fighting against these bills.
02:34:06: We've been getting bills into legislatures, and they've been able to stop them from even getting hearings.
02:34:12: We haven't been able to get them past the hearing stage until Louisiana.
02:34:18: What happened in Louisiana was unprecedented. It was historic. In Louisiana, we were able to get a bill into not only the hearing, but also onto the floor.
02:34:29: When it went to the hearing stage, it absolutely sailed through the hearing stage with a vote of 7 to 2.
02:34:37: Since Roe versus Wade, getting bills of equal protection and abolition hasn't really been a thing until very recently.
02:34:45: And then we weren't able to get them past the hearing stage, and now we got a bill of equal protection that calls what's in the womb the image of God.
02:34:56: It's a mustard seed that's starting to bloom into a very big tree, and it's happening across the country.
02:35:01: We have more states coming very soon. We were even able to argue in the case that ultimately overturned
02:35:09: Roe versus Wade. We were able to argue with an amicus brief in that case, and in our amicus brief, we argued that the court must yield to the authority of Jesus Christ, not just the constitution, but that the authority of God's word in Jesus Christ is ultimate.
02:35:26: It's above the courts. It's above the very constitution itself. It's a transcendent law.
02:35:32: It's an authority above all, and we argued that in the case that ultimately overturned
02:35:38: Roe versus Wade. Do you see what happens? Do you see what happens when the church of Jesus Christ brings
02:35:46: His word to the world? Light in darkness, and we have that message of life.
02:35:56: We have to speak it. I hope you join us in bringing that to the world.
02:36:12: That day, we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection, and we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill.
02:36:22: Of course, the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up. I think Roe versus Wade is one of the worst decisions that's ever come out of the
02:36:29: US Supreme Court, but it's the law. Like it or not, it is the law. It's been the law for almost 50 years. We can't defy the federal courts.
02:36:36: We don't care how much they're defying the constitution. We can't defy them. Well, that excuse is gone.
02:36:42: We're outside the Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe versus Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
02:36:51: We're going to win. We've raised up churches in Canada, the
02:36:59: United States of America, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Northern Ireland, in the Republic of Ireland, in Scotland, all over the world who are preaching the gospel in this area and demanding equal protection for all humans from conception.
02:37:13: We've been able to get bills in through the work of the church and through End Abortion Now in states across the country,
02:37:20: Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, Colorado.
02:37:25: I mean, it's something that's happened across the country, and ultimately the huge moment was
02:37:32: Louisiana. Yeah.
02:37:43: So in Louisiana, House Bill 813 carried by Representative Danny McCormick, it was a bill that provided equal protection.
02:37:50: And what that means is that all the bill did, it actually didn't really create a new law. You know, states already have laws that prohibit homicide, right?
02:37:59: Murder is already illegal in every single state. What House Bill 813 did was it took away the abortion exception to that.
02:38:06: So that way, homicide that already protects the lives of born people would now protect the lives of preborn people, people before they're born.
02:38:14: That's what the U .S. Constitution says, no state shall deny equal protection. So that's what the bill did. It provided equal protection.
02:38:21: And that's not just in the U .S. Constitution, that's in the Louisiana Constitution too. It was a very favorable situation that really is unprecedented in terms of the progress of this kind of work that we're trying to put in place to actually protect life at this stage and make abortion illegal.
02:38:51: I'm Guto. Yes, Representative LaFleur. No, Representative Marcel. Representative McCormick.
02:38:58: Yes. Yes, Representative Hodges. Representative Muscarello. Yes, Representative Nelson.
02:39:05: Representative Sebaugh. Yes, Representative Villio. Representative Marino.
02:39:11: No, seven yeas, two nays. Thank you. House Bill 813 will be reported favorably.
02:39:19: They approved the bill. You know, they were like, this is common sense. If a fetus is a person, so let's treat them like a person.
02:39:27: How do we treat other people? Let's treat the fetus the same way. If we truly believe that they're persons, like we've said in the pro -life movement, for 49 years, let's treat them like that.
02:39:36: The committee said, thumbs up. The bill in Louisiana was historic because the bill made it not only to hearing, but past the hearing and onto the floor.
02:39:46: This bill was talked about across the country. MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, everybody knew about this bill.
02:39:54: And this bill was a big moment because in all the years of Roe v. Wade, the pro -life establishment hasn't been working to criminalize and abolish abortion.
02:40:03: This was a bill of equal protection, a bill that's consistent with what they say they believe, a bill that says that what's in the womb is in the image of God.
02:40:10: It's human from conception. All humans deserve to be equally protected under the law. They have not fought that way.
02:40:16: And so this was historic in that sense, but it was also historic because it made it to the floor in Louisiana.
02:40:22: And it was a huge moment in Louisiana because as soon as it passed through the hearing stage and it went to the floor, the pro -life establishment was freaking out.
02:40:36: Over the course of the next week, before it got to the floor of the House, there had been lots of lobbying by pro -life organizations, pro -life politicians, pro -life establishment, pro -life lobby, the pro -life industry.
02:40:50: They'd been lobbying saying, you've got to kill this bill. And as we moved closer and closer to the day of the actual vote, the establishment came in undercover and they started talking to our legislators, telling them, don't pass that bill.
02:41:04: Don't pass a bill like that. No bill that would actually criminalize abortion and actually provide equal protection.
02:41:10: So the day of the vote itself, over 70 pro -life organizations joined together to put a letter out to legislators across the
02:41:17: United States of America that said that they did not want legislatures to put any bills of equal protection in that would actually call it a crime for everybody involved in killing the child.
02:41:29: They said, we're against criminalizing the mother, which the bill doesn't criminalize the mother.
02:41:35: The bill criminalizes conduct, criminalizes murder, doesn't criminalize the mother. It doesn't even really talk about the mother.
02:41:41: The law applies equally to everybody, just like the laws that protect the lives of born people.
02:41:46: It doesn't single out one particular sex. That day, we were standing as Christians for a consistent bill of justice and righteousness and protection.
02:41:56: And we had essentially two groups that were warring against the bill. Of course, the pro -choicers, but they didn't even need to show up.
02:42:02: There was maybe two or three pro -choicers at the Capitol that day. That's how much they knew they didn't have to lift a finger because it was the establishment, the pro -life establishment that came in and tried to convince all of our legislators to not pass the bill.
02:42:16: Because fundamentally, they have a worldview that is not a Christian worldview. They believe that they can acquit the guilty.
02:42:23: There are people who murder their children who should not be seen as guilty of the crime of abortion.
02:42:29: And of course, again, this goes against the biblical worldview. It goes against Christian history and Christian tradition.
02:42:36: Christian churches always seen everybody involved in killing a child on the womb as guilty, and they need the gospel.
02:42:43: And so we had our work cut out for us, but it was a big moment. Louisiana was huge because it showed the establishment that this small group of Christians with nowhere near the funds and budget they have can deliver a bigger punch and punch a bigger hole than they ever have in 50 years of Roe v.
02:43:04: Wade. My name is Zach Lautenschlager. I've worked in professional politics for the last 24 years, focused my career on no compromise political fights, defending the right to keep and bear arms, and working to return to the right to life.
02:43:22: I've worked with end abortion now for the last three years. Our forefathers sacrificed to that level so that we can stand and fight for the rights to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness using political means.
02:43:43: Louisiana last year, well earlier this year is certainly in the last cycle is certainly another major milestone as legislation moves from committee to a vote on the floor of one chamber.
02:44:02: As far as we know, that's the first, one of the first where we won the committee vote and it moved to the floor.
02:44:07: And this is the way you measure yardage. You measure progress in politics. Every bill is going to have to go through multiple votes, and if you can start moving through winning some of those, you're definitely making progress.
02:44:21: It's really interesting when you talk about like, how do you put one of these bills in? The truth is, it's so grassroots and so simple that some of it is honestly in terms of like political acumen or political power and prowess, it's kind of embarrassing.
02:44:41: It's literally Christians calling up legislators and saying, do you believe it's human from conception?
02:44:48: Yes, I need to talk to you. I'm going to pick up the phone and use the publicly available roster of the
02:44:57: House and Senate in my particular state. And I'm going to call their office and I'm going to ask them, would you consider actually ending abortion?
02:45:04: Would you sponsor legislation to end abortion? That's the basic level. It's that kind of grassroots mustard seed kind of moves in states that has brought all these about.
02:45:16: It's just been a move of the church going to legislators and saying, you said you believe this. Are you a believer?
02:45:22: Yes. Do you want to protect these children? Yes. This is a bill that's consistent. There's not much to it. We're human from conception.
02:45:28: All humans deserve equal protection. Very simple. And so we've been able to work with churches and ourselves talking directly to legislators to find the legislators who want to be brave, find the legislators who are not going to compromise, find the legislators who are going to be consistent and put the bills in those states.
02:45:45: And so, of course, when we get the bill into the state, we gather the churches in that state to rally and also to talk to their legislators to co -sponsor the bill and to pass these bills.
02:45:56: And we're in a new place now because now we're moving into other states in 2023.
02:46:02: And one of the states that we have is Georgia. So it was exhausting. We were all super tired, but it went really well.
02:46:10: Good stuff. The representative we talked to is just a solid believer, loves the
02:46:15: Lord, loves God's law. Didn't even have to teach him Lex Rex. He already believed it and said it himself.
02:46:22: God's law is above man's law and the Constitution. So that was good. He's a good dude.
02:46:28: We got his commitment. He wants to do it. He wants to work with us on what it's going to look like in terms of when he has debates.
02:46:36: He wants us on his side, Bradley and me, to answer questions as experts.
02:46:43: He wants to be trained. He wants us to do the groundwork to get the public involved.
02:46:48: So he knows what he's doing. Solid dude. We are leaving the hotel right now to go to the Capitol to film the spots that we're going to be releasing when this stuff goes through.
02:46:59: Just short spots. And then we return home tonight. I think we landed like 745 on time.
02:47:07: Georgia is another state similar to Louisiana in terms of its prospects.
02:47:14: There are quite a few groups on the ground in Georgia right now that are on the exact same page as we are.
02:47:24: We've met with them. We've talked with them. We're equipping them. They're ready to go.
02:47:30: They're on the gospel message. They're consistent. They're not compromised. And they're ready to raise up other churches across the state of Georgia and to make sure that everyone knows this is going on so that our legislators can get the support that they need and that the church of Christ knows about this bill and what's going on.
02:47:47: So we were able even to go to Georgia and meet with all of our organizations that are out there, some of them, to meet with them.
02:47:54: They're all preparing right now for this move as Christians to establish justice for the pre -born in the state of Georgia.
02:48:01: Will it be as impactful as Louisiana and everything that happened there? I think it has the potential to be just as impactful, if not more.
02:48:11: Based on the climate right now, of course, this is the first legislation at this scale that we're going to be able to shine light on since the overturning of Roe v.
02:48:21: Wade, which is a big, big deal because legislators, politicians no longer have the excuse of waiting on the
02:48:31: Supreme Court to overturn Roe. That's already done and gone and over with.
02:48:36: If anybody has told you that passage of 813 will prevent a single abortion, they misled you or they don't know how the law works.
02:48:44: Because the fact of the matter is, if we pass this bill and the Senate passes this bill and the governor signs this bill, it will be enjoined the next day because Roe v.
02:48:53: Wade is still the law of the land. The U .S. Supreme Court said you can't do this.
02:48:58: Thank you for joining us on this Friday night on a day that changed America. We're outside the
02:49:03: Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe v. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
02:49:11: That excuse is gone. You know, a lot of politicians use that, well, we can't defy the federal courts.
02:49:17: We don't care how much they're defying the Constitution. We can't defy them. Well, that excuse is gone.
02:49:23: You can't use that one anymore. Roe is gone. Planned Parenthood v. Casey is gone. And a lot of them have said, well, we would do what you're saying.
02:49:31: We would abolish abortion if it weren't for the court. Well, now the court's like, all right, here you go.
02:49:38: And that's what we're saying too. Here you go then. Here's your opportunity. Put your money where your mouth is.
02:49:44: Do it. Abolish abortion. We're up against a pro -life industry that even with Roe v.
02:49:51: Wade out of the way, they're still fighting their fight the same way. 15 week bans, total partiality.
02:49:58: You can kill this child, but not this child. Heartbeat bills. Roe v. Wade was never the issue.
02:50:04: They're a business. They're an industry. They're staying alive through regulation.
02:50:10: We want this to be over and to wash our hands of it and to walk away. I don't want to do this ministry anymore.
02:50:17: I want justice established, and I want this done. So the bill in Georgia, it does what the
02:50:25: Constitution requires. It provides equal protection. It does what the Georgia Constitution requires, and it provides equal protection.
02:50:32: And equal protection just means, what are the laws to people? You protect the pre -born equally.
02:50:44: I'm looking forward to the battle that's going to happen. There's going to be the abolitionists on one side.
02:50:49: There's going to be the people who believe consistently that a fetus is a person. They're made in the image of God.
02:50:56: They should be protected from conception until natural death. That's where we should be protecting them.
02:51:02: And a lot of people have said that they believe that, but now they're going to have an opportunity in Georgia to prove it.
02:51:08: Prove it. You say you want to abolish abortion? Prove it. Do it. Here's the bill. We're going to win, and we're going to win, period.
02:51:17: Jesus is, according to Scripture, putting all of his enemies under his feet. So we're going to win. This is ending someday.
02:51:25: We're prayerful that Georgia, of course, establishes justice, but this is going under the feet of Jesus.
02:51:31: The church is going to have victory over this. It is an absolute guarantee. Because we're
02:52:02: Christians. The goal of this ministry is to end abortion in Jesus' name as Christians.
02:52:09: We wanted to have a ministry in the area of abortion that was focused on Christ, focused on the gospel, and focused on telling the truth to our culture.
02:52:19: We wanted to do this ministry explicitly as Christians, under the banner of the gospel, with local churches, working together across the
02:52:28: United States of America and around the world. And that's what God has done. God has allowed us to raise up over 900 local churches, equipped and trained absolutely for free, with no cost to them, to go out to their local abortion mills, to preach the gospel, to offer help and hope to mothers and fathers who are going inside.
02:52:48: And because of that effort, we have saved tens of thousands of lives. You've been a part of that with us.
02:52:54: If you've prayed for us, if you've given financially over the last seven years, you've been a part of that effort to raise those churches up.
02:53:01: Babies are being saved every single day across the United States of America because of your work together with us.
02:53:07: So I want to first say from my heart, thank you for being a part of this ministry with us.
02:53:12: We've also, because of your help with us over all of these years, been able to give the message of the gospel on our media platforms globally in conflict with the issue of abortion.
02:53:24: It's changed hearts. It's changed minds. We have messages on our platforms of mothers who came across our content, who were on their way to the abortion facility to have their abortion.
02:53:35: And now their babies are alive today because of that message. We've been able to raise up churches, raise up Christians to speak consistently to their neighbors, to their communities, and to their legislatures in this area of abortion because of the content that you've helped us to build.
02:53:49: So I want to say thank you again for that. And we've been able, through your help together with us, to have bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization go into states across the
02:54:01: United States of America. Bills in Arizona, in Texas, in South Carolina, in Louisiana, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado.
02:54:09: And there's more coming. All of this has happened because you've partnered together with us to end this evil and this great injustice that's perpetrated upon our pre -born neighbors.
02:54:20: And so thank you for being a part of this with us. As many of you know, the numbers are staggering.
02:54:26: Sixty million plus human beings have been killed in our nation since Roe versus Wade.
02:54:33: Sixty million plus and counting. There's more and more all the time. Now we're thankful that we were able to participate in the amicus brief filed by our constitutional attorney
02:54:44: Bradley Pierce in the Dobbs case, which ultimately overturned Roe versus Wade. We knew that Roe versus Wade needed to go away.
02:54:51: It was an injustice, an evil court opinion that the states should have actually resisted. However, that Roe decision was actually in the way of us establishing justice in the states.
02:55:02: And now that Roe is out of the way, we have almost 10 states committed to putting in bills of abolition in our union in the beginning of next legislative session.
02:55:14: So we have that happening and Roe is out of the way. I want to just speak to this for a moment. Many, many people believe that essentially this fight is really basically over because Roe is out of the way.
02:55:25: I want to say that the fight has only just begun. Roe's being overturned has not established justice for the pre -born.
02:55:32: We are not anywhere close to equal protection. We don't have criminalization in the states across the United States of America where true justice is established for our neighbors.
02:55:40: And so our fight has really just started. We want to ask you to partner with us in 2023. Once again, we have over 900 churches that are already a part of our network.
02:55:50: We are adding more all the time. We are producing more content that is changing hearts and changing minds and saving lives.
02:55:58: You can see those stories at endabortionnow .com. And we have 10 states right now that we are working in to put bills of abolition, equal protection, and criminalization in the first quarter of next legislative session.
02:56:10: So we need you to partner with us again in 2023. It is going to be our most important year yet.
02:56:16: So with the 900 churches and with a new website that actually helps you to partner with us in a much more comprehensive way, we have something special for 2023.
02:56:27: And that is that you can go to our new website, endabortionnow .com, and you can actually click on your state.
02:56:34: You can see the churches that are involved in your state that are saving lives, the lives that have been saved.
02:56:39: You're going to be able to hear those stories. And we've made it easy for Christians across the country to fight this battle with us in your particular state.
02:56:48: You go to endabortionnow .com, you go to where the states are, you click on the state, you'll be able to see the lives that have been saved, and you'll be able to also connect directly to the legislators in your state.
02:57:01: We have everything already prepared for you. It's a pre -filled out form you can send directly to the legislators in your state.
02:57:08: We also have a petition you could sign in your state to put on the desks of the people who need to see it.
02:57:14: We've done all the work for you. We've made it simple so that you can partner with us in your state to establish justice.
02:57:21: All that is coming in 2023. It's our most important year. We need you to stand with us.
02:57:27: Since we started this work, this has grown in incredible ways. It is truly the grace of God that has brought us to this place, and it is through believers just like you that partnered with us from the very beginning that helped us.
02:57:42: We're not a massive ministry. We're not huge. We don't have the tens of millions of dollars coming in like the pro -life organizations.
02:57:48: We are a local church that is equipping and other local churches to save lives, and that is going to legislators across the country and saying we demand justice immediately and abortion now.
02:58:00: And we've only been able to do this because believers just like you have put your hands in my hands and partnered with me in this ministry, with our team, to make this happen.
02:58:09: You've done this with us. So all of the tens of thousands of babies that are alive today are alive because of God's people sacrificing, praying, partnering with us.
02:58:19: All of the bills that are going in next year to establish justice are happening because believers just like you join together with us financially.
02:58:28: We need your help. We try as a ministry to stay lean and mean, and we try as a ministry to make sure that we're as effective as we can possibly be with the truth and with very little budget that we need.
02:58:41: And so this year we need a little over a million dollars for the budget for 2023. I'll give you an example.
02:58:48: In one state last year, Louisiana, that bill itself that was unprecedented and it did a lot of damage, that bill was tens of thousands of dollars to put into place and to work.
02:59:00: And so God blessed it, but we need your partnership as we do this fight. So will you partner with me in 2023?
02:59:07: Help us as a ministry, as a church, as Christians to end this injustice in Jesus' name.
02:59:13: We're doing this as Christians. We're doing this because of the gospel. We're doing this because we're called to love our neighbors and to lay our lives down for them.
02:59:20: And we're doing this fundamentally so that we don't have to do it anymore. We don't want to see this regulated.
02:59:26: We're not starting a business. For us, this isn't an industry. We're a church. We're trying to speak the gospel in this area, to overcome it with the light of the gospel.
02:59:35: And we're trying to wash our hands of it and then walk away from it once justice is established. Will you help us do that?
02:59:41: Will you join us in 2023 with a donation? Give towards this work. Help us to raise up more churches, help us to save more lives, many more lives, and help us to establish justice at the state level.
02:59:54: Partner with us in 2023. I want to thank you for all you ever have done. And I want to thank you for what you give in 2023.
03:00:01: Endabortionnow .com is where you go. Check this site out. You can give there and please participate in all the new features we have there so you can help us and all the states that we're working in to end abortion now.