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- And you guys can feel free throughout the whole time that if you'd like to, you know, if you guys want to talk amongst yourselves, make some comments, remarks about things that are going on, you can use the chat.
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- At a certain point in time, we'll have it where you guys can put questions into the chat so that if we can do, answer some of them during a
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- Q and A. So, okay. With that, let's go ahead and get started. Just a little heads up about Russ Miller.
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- We're really glad to have him tonight. He is the off -grid creationist, which means that he's off -grid.
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- And you might think, well, then how can he be on Zoom? And we don't really know, but we're hoping that it will last our whole time.
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- So, we're going to be flexible and patient and see how things go. And if he drops off, then
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- I have a backup plan that will be just as fun, but not as good because Russ wouldn't be here, but still, we'll have a good time.
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- So, let's go ahead and pray to get things started. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for your love and your goodness to us.
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- Thank you for the opportunity, once again, that we have on a Thursday night here to invite friends, new friends, friends far and wide from across the country and even
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- Canada and sometimes beyond. And thank you for Russ and his ministry. We thank you that he's willing to join us and to remind us of some of the truths that we can be confident about from your word and how we can see them in our surroundings.
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- Thank you for the beautiful scenery that you give us each day. Thank you that we can see the way that you uphold nature in a consistent way, and that helps us be able to study science.
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- And we know that because we study science based on a universe that you created in a consistent way, we know that it always is going to bring glory to you, as long as we have the right lenses on.
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- And we thank you that that's true. And we just ask for a blessing over our time tonight that we are able to fellowship with each other in a good way and take something away from this that we have learned that we didn't know before, and also we pray for technology that it works with us.
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- In Jesus' name, amen. All right, ladies, you guys got to be on those mutes.
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- Okay. All right. So, let's start by introducing
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- Russ with a video that he has. This is a video that explains his
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- Rim and Raft tour that he does at Lee's Ferry. So, I'm going to go ahead and use my videos log in there to go ahead and choose, find this video, and give me one second, apparently, as I find what
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- I'm looking for. So, I'm going to have to go to a plan
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- B already because I'm not finding what I needed. So, sorry about that, guys.
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- Is it titled Lee's Ferry? It is. Yep. I have it. I just,
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- I downloaded it, and for some reason, when I go to share my screen, it's not letting me do the one that I downloaded.
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- So, I have another option here. So, we'll just do it a different way. Okay. So, here we go.
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- Let me make sure that I have the sound on for you guys and share. Okay.
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- Can you guys all see a video right now with the plane? Yep. Yes. All right.
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- So, let's play this video. So, I'm standing at Lee's Ferry in northern
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- Arizona at Marble Canyon. This is where the river raft trips are launched and head through Grand Canyon, and we're standing in front of the
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- Vermilion Cliffs. We're at the base of the Vermilion Cliffs. This is the 2 ,000 to 2 ,500 -foot step of the
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- Grand Staircase. We've just gotten through a rafting trip from Glen Canyon Dam to Lee's Ferry, which cuts through those massive layers of rock, strata.
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- They were laid down by water. Now, as we get to Lee's Ferry, suddenly, the whole area opens up, and these massive rock layers behind us have been removed for tens of thousands of square miles.
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- I would ask you to ask yourself, when you look at that massive strata layer, those vertical rock walls, how in the world, what power could have removed these rock layers for tens of thousands of square miles?
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- And when you realize that there used to be 6 ,000 or so feet of additional rock layers on top of these layers, which you pick up at the
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- Gray and White Cliffs of Zion and the Pink Cliffs of Bryce, there is a mile of missing strata here.
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- Ask yourself, what force could have possibly have removed them and cut the steps and vertical cliffs?
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- I would have to say the only viable explanation is the worldwide global flood, which removed those layers the last time they ran off, after the mountains arose and the valley sank down.
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- The last time those waters rushed off the continents, they eroded that mile of strata in the
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- Grand Staircase. And here we stand in front of some of the most awesome proof of the truth and reliability and authority of God's Word.
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- One thing is for certain, on every Creation tour with Russ Miller, you will discover that evolution is a faith, but the facts have failed.
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- But biblical Christianity is a faith that fits the facts.
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- Okay then, so that was a nice introductory video, so welcome
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- Russ. We're glad again to have you with us here tonight, and I thought that maybe we could start by asking,
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- I could ask you a couple of questions. So I wanted to ask you, why is it that you, why is it that you refer to the global flood as the launch pin of the war of worldviews?
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- Now I sent you that question, and there was a typo, and it says actually I call it the lynchpin, the lynchpin.
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- So that was my fault. I also should mention, because we live where we live, this comes in by a satellite link.
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- So by the time Terry says something and I hear it, or I hear something and, or I say something and Terry hears it, there's a good two second delay, so that might seem, that's the reason our timing's a little weird at times.
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- But I've been doing, I've been in full -time Creation ministry now for 21 years, and starting out from day one until today, the biggest issue
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- I run into is the age of the earth. Millions of years of time is the foundation for Darwinism, naturalism, humanism, modern atheism, agnosticism, all the compromised positions within the
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- Christian church today are all based because of millions of years of time.
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- And once you understand how the old earth beliefs come about, you'll understand how it comes down to whether or not there was a global flood.
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- Let me talk about what I call the five pillars of old earth beliefs, and then you'll see why the global flood is indeed the lynchpin.
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- In fact, in 2 Peter 3, 3 through 6, it is foretold that in the last days, scoffers would deny that the world that was being overflowed with water perished.
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- The Bible foretold 1 ,900 years ago that in the last days, scoffers would deny the global flood.
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- So let me talk about the five pillars. The number one pillar of old earth beliefs is the belief that there was never a global flood.
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- Everything else flows from that. Pillar number two is the geologic column or time scale.
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- We've all seen that drawing of 12 primary layers with ages and names assigned to the layers.
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- That is all based on the belief that there was never a global flood. You see, a global flood would have laid down the earth's crust, those stratified layers laid down by water that had been separated by grain size, weight, and density.
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- Here we see a miner with a panty, scoops up some sediments and sloshes that pan back and forth, and the moving water stratifies out the sediments in his pan, gold being the heaviest sinks to the bottom.
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- Well, on a global scale, the global flood eroded probably close to two miles of the earth's crust.
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- The sediments were rolling around in those waters and getting separated by grain size, weight, and density, and then laid down in the layers we have today that make up the crust of the earth.
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- That's why we have these stratified layers. All shale, all sandstone, all mudstone, the water stratified them out by, again, grain size, weight, and density.
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- The geologic column, pillar number two, is the drawing of the earth's crust, those layers
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- I'm talking about, based on the belief there was never a global flood and they formed slowly. By the way, that puts death before Adam.
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- We'll talk about that later on. Pillar number three of Old Earth beliefs is radiometric dating techniques, which must get a date that matches the man -made geologic column, which is based on the belief there was never a global flood, the linchpin in the world world views.
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- Pillars number four and five are dinosaurs and Grand Canyon. Dinosaurs, their millions of years ages assigned by which stratified layer they're found in, based on the geologic column, which is based on the belief there was never a global flood, and Grand Canyon, which is, again, based on the belief it formed slowly over long ages of time, not quickly, as a result of the global flood.
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- I hope by hearing all that, anyone listening can understand why the global flood is the whole linchpin in the world world views.
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- If there was a global flood that covered all the high hills under the whole heaven, it would have laid down the earth's crust, the stratified layers, quickly in that year -long event, wiping out all of the
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- Old Earth beliefs that are the foundation for Darwinism, naturalism, humanism, modern atheism, agnosticism, etc.
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- So the global flood is truly the the linchpin in this war of world views. Okay, great.
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- And then Russ, can you tell us when and why you began leading tours to the
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- Grand Canyon and the Grand Staircase? Sure.
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- It goes back to the year 2000, when we started our ministry, and we only live about an hour and a half from Grand Canyon.
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- And so I was interested in the canyon, and I just happened to go there one day, looking around, and I started realizing, wow, we could take
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- Christians here, and Grand Canyon is one of those five pillars of secular Old Earth beliefs.
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- But I started looking at it, and I went to different points, and I thought we could bring groups here, and I could show them the original
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- Creation Rock, where the first flood layers come in and lay right on top of the Creation Rock, literally where Creation and Judgment meet.
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- I could show them proof of the almost two miles of layers that have been removed from above today's canyon, and picked up as you go north in what is geologically called the
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- Grand Staircase. So I can talk about that in a bit too. But we started doing, we had a
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- Christian radio station put on our first trip with us. He had a really nice little jingle off an old
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- Paul Simon tune, and it was get on the bus with Russ, and that's just kind of been something that people today even talk about.
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- But we started, I think our first rim tour was in 2004, and the first year we did the one trip.
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- The next year we did three, the next year we did six or seven. And I've been doing about 19 or 20 trips a year there with groups of about 50 people.
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- So I've been taking about 900 to 1 ,000 people a year to Grand Canyon. I also have led
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- Christian -based and Creation -based raft trips through the entire length of the canyon, more than a dozen such trips.
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- And I don't do the trips through the canyon anymore, but we have a rim and raft trip that is really quite spectacular.
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- Charlie, who was on earlier, he was going to go on one of our trips this year. They were all sold out, and Charlie got on one, and then every single one was canceled because of the of the virus.
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- But we're rescheduling for next year, and we've got several going through May, June, and into July, and Charlie's going to be on one of those.
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- That's going to be a lot of fun. But we started doing the trips because we could go to these secular bastions, one of the pillars of secular beliefs, and very quickly recapture it for the glory of God.
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- We can take, we've had atheists go on the trips, secular scientists have become
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- Christians afterwards. We had an entire Mormon family with us one trip that came up to me afterwards and said,
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- Russ, I saw the truth of God's word today. Where can we go to get baptized? And we just had a lot of really great reactions to the trips, and we've had river guides that have accepted
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- Christ after going with us, and bus drivers, and God's just been really good to us on these trips.
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- I don't really have much in the way of promotion. Probably most of your listeners never heard of me before. I'm the unknown creationist and the off -grid creationist, but God's given us really good information, and we share it where God opens doors.
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- Yeah, and I think we have a video to show about the Grand Canyon tour, so I'm going to go ahead and play that one right now.
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- Super. For the glory of God, causing people to explode in their belief, and their faith, and their trust in the word of God, word for word, and cover to cover, as I like to say.
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- We look at the Grand Canyon through the correct biblical interpretation, which is of a relatively young creation judged by a global flood.
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- I take people on the rim to where they can actually put their hands on original creation rock that was there at the end of day six when
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- God called his creation very good. And I can explain that missing mile and a half of strata has been removed from above the rim of the canyon.
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- Undeniable proof of the flood, which wipes out every older belief. These tours are important because 85 % of Christian kids are now leaving the church by the age of 20.
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- Half of Christians in the church today are trying to mix older beliefs of the death before Adam into God's word.
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- People are going to experience a deep understanding of how real science is a believer's best friend, and how real science fits with the uncompromised word of God.
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- We've had atheists, secular scientists, entire families that were non -Christian become
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- Christian after going on this tour. So I invite folks to get on this tour, get on the bus with Russ, and have your eyes open to the truth and the authority of God's word.
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- I like that, that get on the bus with Russ. That's great. So I want to show everybody.
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- I should have sent the jingle to you. I want to show everybody your website.
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- It's creationministries .org. So I'm going to, I have it open somewhere around here.
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- I had a whole plan that got a little bit thwarted. So I'm going to do a new share, and we're going to go to this one right here.
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- Okay. So you guys can see his website, creationministries .org.
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- Maybe, Robin, you want to type that into the chat so that people can keep that, creationministries .org.
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- And this is the homepage here. When you go, he is,
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- Russ has so many resources here. And Russ, you always say that people, if they buy your videos, they can make copies, right, and distribute them.
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- Right. We, our goal, of course, as a ministry is to get this information out and make difference in people's lives.
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- And I've never prevented, I've always encouraged people to get, for instance, our
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- DVDs to make all the copies they want, give them away. And then last December, because we have entire
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- DVD sets, and people really don't know which is the one to make a copy of and give somebody. So last
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- December, we put together a special DVD specifically for people to copy and give away based on First Peter and Give a
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- Reason for the Hope that's in Your Heart, we call it our Give a Reason DVD. And it has the four live film teachings of ours in the very order
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- I would present them to either a non -believer or a young Christian or a
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- Christian who's struggling with these issues. So that's our Give a Reason DVD. And it's specifically made for people to get and just make all the copies in the world you want and give away.
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- Great. And then also people can use your website to arrange a tour, right, so they can find the types of trips here.
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- And then, and then they can arrange a tour with this link. Yes. Yes. And it's actually,
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- I'm sorry, we just got tied up this week because our ministry is me and my wife. And we, we actually haven't gotten next year's listed on, we meant to list it by this program, but we'll have them listed by the end of next week.
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- But we have several room and raft and a couple of grand staircase tours set for next year already.
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- And we're looking forward to that. Okay. All right. So I'm gonna,
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- I, we have a couple more questions that we can talk about. You know, we've heard from several of our speakers this summer, especially
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- Mike Riddle talks a lot about no death before sin, no death before Adam, no death before sin.
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- So I know you wanted to touch on that a little bit. So go, you could go ahead and talk about that. I think that's another key issue for folks to discuss.
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- Within Christian circles, Terry, a lot of people don't see any reason to talk about the creation, evolution, age of the earth issues.
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- I've spoken in many churches where literally the pastors have come up to me afterwards and said something to the effect of Russ, I, I really didn't want to have you come here and speak, but people kept bugging me about having you come here.
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- So finally, I said, okay, we'll have a guy come and speak, but I really had no idea why we should waste time talking about creation, evolution, and age of the earth issues.
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- And you just showed me, this is the foundation of everything. And Terry, the reason a lot of pastors and a lot of Christians don't understand the issue is because we have so much compromise within Christian schools and colleges on the age of the earth, that we can't stand up for the truth.
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- The age of the earth, you always hear, well, it doesn't matter if God used six days or 6 billion years or whatever. Well, first of all, besides God's word, because it does matter, is the fact that the, the old earth beliefs, the age of the earth in itself isn't the main issue.
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- The issue is that the old earth beliefs, picture us on a timeline. The Bible says, in the beginning,
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- God created. Jesus Christ says, man was made male and female since the beginning in Mark and in Matthew.
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- The biblical message, I call this the cost or creation, original sin, separation, and the cross, need for redemption.
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- The biblical gospel message is that God created a perfect universe, but man's original sin,
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- Adam's original sin that corrupted it, allowing death to enter while separating us from God, requiring our redemption through Jesus Christ.
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- The old earth beliefs, very subtle and very damaging, put death prior to Adam.
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- Once you or a Christian school or college has, has compromised with old birth beliefs that put death before Adam, they can't teach that Adam's sin brought in death.
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- You see that? Once you put death for Adam, you can't teach Adam sin brought in death, separating us from God, requiring our redemption.
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- It's a foundational attack. It's a foundational issue. And the number one comment
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- I hear when I speak in a church is people, including pastors, coming up to me and saying, when you explain the death before Adam issue, my jaw hit the floor.
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- In fact, all of my messages now, the first eight minutes I go through what I call the cost.
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- I explain the creation, the original sin, the separation, the need for redemption. I explain how the layers formed during the flood, how
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- Jesus said, Moses wrote of me, but if you believe not his writings, how will you believe my words? And I show people how the old earth beliefs are based on a belief, the layers form slowly with no global flood.
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- They're full of dead things that puts death before Adam. That's the battle right there. We have been losing the battle because of compromise within our ranks.
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- We can't talk about it without getting somebody upset. So it's actually one of the things I focus on.
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- My book, The Cost, covers top 10 old earth beliefs, top 10 evil fruit of old earth beliefs, number one being
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- Darwinism. So I covered the top 10 Darwinian beliefs. And it's very easy to read and understand.
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- It's written in the same method that I taught, just down to earth and easy as I can make things to understand for folks.
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- And actually one of the larger Christian schools in the Southwest is working with me and the book,
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- The Cost, to develop an in -school and also an online creation evolution course.
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- It'll be based on my book, The Cost. And so we're working on that right now and it's to launch in a few months.
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- So excited about that. But that is the key issue, whether there was a global flood, the linchpin, because without a flood, the old earth beliefs put death before Adam.
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- So I hope some people heard that. If they've heard that for the first time, hopefully it's opened some eyes. Yeah, I mean,
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- I think that's probably one of the biggest challenges to the old earth thinking.
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- And that's great news about the curriculum. That's exciting that that's going to happen. Tell us where you're living now and how you became the off -grid creationist.
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- Well, my wife and I live in a nice chalet cabin in northern Arizona. It is actually in an old extinct volcanic crater.
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- It's called Stoneman Lake. And actually, geologists can't tell us if it's an extinct volcanic crater or a sinkhole.
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- So we go with extinct volcanic crater. Sounds a lot better. Nobody wants to say, hey, I live in a sinkhole.
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- But we're surrounded by, we're at about 6 ,800 foot elevation. And we are off grid.
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- The electricity we have is we have a really nice solar system with 24 deep cell batteries, a backup generator.
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- We have a private well company here that supplies water. And we just love it here.
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- We've been having a little bit of trouble here in the last three or four days with elk. We have a fenced acre with a five -foot fence around it with also about six inches above that, a strand of barbed wire around that.
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- And we planted four apple trees four years ago. And this year was the first year they really produced apples.
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- And three nights ago, some bull elk jumped over our five -foot tall fence and ate half of the trees.
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- So I thought, it looked to me like they had jumped over our gate, which is only about four feet tall.
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- So I parked my pickup truck across the gate night before last, thinking that would solve the issue.
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- Then they jumped over the taller fence and really did some damage. So last night,
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- I parked our Jeep in one corner where they've been jumping over and also blocked the gate, put out some solar lights and some motion lights.
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- And just before going to bed last night, I went out on the front deck with a spotlight and just looked around.
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- And sure enough, there are eight bull elk standing just right across the road from our house, just waiting to get in and finish off what we have left of our trees.
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- And it took me quite a while, but I was able to get them to convince them to move on.
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- I thought they'd come back during the night. I got up about four in the morning and went out and looked around.
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- They hadn't come back. So last night, we won the battle last night. So we'll see how things go tonight.
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- It's an interesting place to live. It sure does sound like it. My mom complains about gophers.
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- I can't imagine having to deal with the elk. So okay.
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- So we have gophers too. Now you've been making these off -grid creationist videos and I've really been enjoying watching them.
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- They're just short videos. So I, you know, you and I picked out a couple that we could share. So I'm going to go ahead and share the first one.
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- And people can find these on YouTube or on Facebook, right?
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- Correct. Hi, Russ Miller, off -grid creationist here.
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- I was watching some elk move up the side of the hill just behind our place here and our volcanic crater in northern
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- Arizona. Oh, we have all kinds of great wildlife we get to enjoy here. Elk, mule deer, white -tailed deer, all sorts of mammals, all sorts of carnivores, all sorts of raptors and birds.
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- It's a great place to live. We enjoy it, but my friends, that's not what I want to talk about.
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- I want to talk about non -existent animals, make -believe animals. We have real animals here.
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- We can watch them, observe them, test study them if we want scientifically. We have lots of real animals, but if you look in a biology book today, you'll find all sorts of never having existed animals and really nice colorful drawings.
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- One is the whale evolution series, where they show a land creature that supposedly evolves, with really nice drawings by the way, into a whale over the, of course, magic ingredient, which is millions of years of time.
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- But these animals never existed. This is a Darwinian macro -evolutionary fairy tale or fantasy.
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- You know, a real animal, a real mammal, let's say an elk, it does not have the genetic information to form a whale's flipper, the blow of a whale.
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- And real science, a believer's best friend, knows of no way for nature to add that kind of new and beneficial genetic information to a gene pool.
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- If you've been fooled by macro -evolution, realize, look in the textbooks and you'll find that their proofs for Darwinian change are almost always drawings.
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- There's an old saying that goes like this, Darwinists are experts at drawing things that never existed to support their theory that never took place.
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- The fact of the matter is, if you took away their box of crayons, they'd be left with nothing. And my friends, that's what
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- I wanted to talk about. Hi, I'm the off -grid creationist.
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- Okay, so I really, I like your humor that you weave in. It's a serious topic really, because you know, people's lives are at stake.
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- But it's, you bring in an element of interesting humor.
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- That's one way to put it. So, and I like the recurring theme of, but that's not what
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- I wanted to talk about, and then that's what I wanted to talk about. So let's go ahead and show one more of these.
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- This is the snow sleds. Snow sleds and bananas. Hi, Russ Miller, off -grid creationist here, and I'm just summarizing our snow sled.
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- It's a pretty handy piece of equipment to have in the wintertime when you live off -grid in snow country.
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- We found that out our first winter here. The first snow was predicted to be three inches deep.
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- Well, woke up the next morning, it was actually three feet deep. We had all our vehicles parked here at the cabin, and they don't plow out this way.
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- They plow across the top road, around the canyon, and actually down to the bottom of the main road, which is three quarters of a mile from here.
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- But we had three feet of snow on the road between us and where they plowed. So we actually didn't, couldn't get out for about 12 days, which was fine.
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- We just hung out and enjoyed the cabin and cabin life for a while because, well, we didn't have much other choice.
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- But right now I winterize it by putting gas, fresh gas, about a gallon every two or three months with stabilizer in it.
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- Because unless you really like rebuilding carburetors, which I do not, you need to keep fresh gas in there.
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- And I come out and I run it for about five to ten minutes once a month as well. But that's not what
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- I wanted to talk about. Darwinists claim that similar biochemistry is proof of goo -to -the -zoo -to -you evolution.
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- I say that we all have the same evidence and similar biochemistry is much better supporting evidence that we all have the same similar designer.
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- Take, for example, your biochemistry is over 90 percent the same as that from a mouse.
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- Your biochemistry is more than 70 percent the same as that from some worms.
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- In fact, your biochemistry is 50 percent the same as that from a banana. Did you evolve from a banana?
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- Of course not. Now, last time I spoke at a college, I asked that same question. 500 students raised their hand and they were serious because they've been taught we've all evolved from a common ancestor, which would mean you're related to bananas.
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- I got to tell you, I got home that night and I got online and looked at my family tree. There wasn't a banana in the whole bunch.
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- And if you didn't find that very appealing, I don't find goo -to -the -zoo evolution very appealing as well.
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- My thought is similarities are proof of a similar biblical designer.
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- And you can put your trust in the word of God, word for word and cover to cover. And that's what
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- I wanted to talk about. Okay, so there's a couple of your off -grid creationist videos.
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- And we'll just show people that you have your channel here. Okay, so they can, people can follow you here on YouTube, the
- 34:14
- Off -Grid Creationist and find your videos there. And also you are on Facebook.
- 34:22
- Facebook, you have your page Off -Grid Creationist Russ Miller and people can follow you there and like your videos and share your videos.
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- And then also some of the videos that we've been playing tonight have come from Vimeo because you have a page over there also on Vimeo.
- 34:42
- So those are three ways that people will be able to find you. YouTube, Facebook, and Vimeo.
- 34:49
- So, okay, so next up, let's, oh, well, that brings us to our main talk for tonight about real science, which is a believer's best friend.
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- And we're going to play the second part of one of your big talks on science versus Darwinism in textbooks.
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- But before we get it started, it's about a 28 -minute video that we're going to play. We're playing part two.
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- So before we, we do that, if you could kind of summarize the first half and then tell us how this, what the impact this talk has had.
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- Okay, Terri, we, this particular message and I've made different versions of it.
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- Some, some are called science versus Darwinism in the textbooks. Some are called the top 10
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- Darwinian lies. And what I do is I start out by going through the scientific issues with Darwinism, from putting death before Adam to getting life started, which is a massive problem for Darwinism.
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- In fact, it's so big today, Darwinists will get mad at you if you even connect the start, the origin of life with Darwinism.
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- And the reason they get mad is there's no scientific way for non -living matter to produce living matter.
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- They can't get life started. So Darwin's book, The Origin of Species, now they claim it has nothing to do with the origin of the species because they can't get any life started from non -life.
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- Never has this been observed, never in a lab of scientists working with, on the research of millions of other scientists research before them with billions of dollars of lab equipment and computers and salaries thrown in with world fame and billions of dollars resting.
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- If they could get non -life to produce life, they can't do it. Life only comes from life.
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- One Harvard Nobel Prize winner, I won't mention his name, about two years ago came out and announced that he had proven that RNA could self -replicate itself, opening the door for life to possibly have started on its own.
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- And then about six months later, he had to retract those claims and admit that his religious beliefs in Darwinian evolutionism and atheism led him to make the statement it was totally a fraud.
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- But in real science, a believer's best friend, life only comes from life.
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- So I go through this. I go through the fact that 10 times in the book of Genesis, we're told that kinds will bring forth after their kind, 10 times in Genesis.
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- Well, today in the year 2020, the only thing that real science finds is that one kind will only produce its own kind.
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- People only produce people. Dogs only produce dogs. Pine trees only produce pine trees, et cetera.
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- One kind will only produce after its kind. So I talk about that and explain
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- Darwinian macroevolution. In fact, if you asked me, Russ, do you believe in evolution?
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- I would say, yes, I believe in biblically correct microevolution, which is better called microadaptations or transitions.
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- They're just kinds bringing forth after their kind, and changes within the kind are caused by the sorting or the loss of the parent starting genetic information.
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- So changes, even microchanges like the Bible says will happen, are caused basically by the loss of genetic information as gene pools get weaker and weaker.
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- It's called gene depletion. Darwinian macroevolution needs nature adding massive amounts of new and beneficial genetic information to change, let's say, a fish into an amphibian with all of the skeletal and muscular and central nervous system changes.
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- And real science, a believer's best friend, knows of no way for nature to add any such information.
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- Gene depletion is what breeders use in breeding. If they want a purebred, they don't breed in new information.
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- They breed out gene depletion, what they don't want. They keep matching pairs, offspring together, and they're losing gene depletion, what they don't want, until they get the kind that they want.
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- But dogs only produce dogs no matter how much information you lose. So I explain all this and show how
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- Darwinism is scientifically impossible during the first half. I show how to scientifically destroy Darwinism in four seconds flat during the first half of that talk.
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- And that's simply this. Start your watch. Gene depletion plus natural selection makes Darwinism impossible.
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- Stop your watch. As things are losing information, eventually they get removed by natural selection.
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- Otherwise, everything would go extinct due to the loss of information. So I explain how
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- Darwinism is a scientific impossibility, how they can't get life started. And then we get into Part B, and I start going through some of the frauds in the textbooks that everybody's been shown, everybody's been taught.
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- And we just take them apart one at a time. And it's not hard to do once you see it. If you believe in Darwinism, you're going to walk away with a whole different mindset.
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- We had one biology teacher who came to an event I gave at a college a few years ago, and it actually came on one of my
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- Grand Canyon tours almost three years later. And she walked up to me on the tour, and she said,
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- Russ, this is going to shock you, but I was at Northern Arizona University when you shared your science and Darwinism there.
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- It was two weeks before I graduated with a degree in biology. And I'd been raised in a
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- Christian home, but I lost my faith within the first week of college because there are all any Christians in here, I'm picking on them.
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- And she hadn't been to church in about five years when she came to see my talk, two weeks before she graduated in biology.
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- She told me on the hike, three years later, I was so mad at you for coming on our campus and challenging what we've been taught, and that I hated your guts.
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- And she took a job as a high school biology teacher for two years, and her church had me, the church
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- I should say she was raised in, her parents' church, had me speak on a Sunday morning about two years later.
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- And she said when she heard that I was speaking, she wanted to throw up, and she went to church for the first time in like seven years.
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- As she put it, to hear what nonsense you're going to spew out of your mouth. And she said halfway, so that was her attitude coming in, halfway through the service, she said, this guy is telling the truth.
- 41:38
- Gave her life back to Christ that day. She went in the next day and told the school she would never again teach the fairy tale of Darwinian evolution.
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- They told her she'd have to resign. She did. She ended up getting a job teaching science in a
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- Christian school. And there's quite a bit more to the story. It's a little fairy tale story, but I'll leave it right there.
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- But this has a big impact on youth and college kids. I don't think
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- I've ever given it to a youth group that didn't have kids come up to me afterwards and say how it saved their faith.
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- So this is part B. It gets in, we get more through the technical things in the first half.
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- Then we start getting into what they show in the textbooks, and it actually can be kind of fun to go through those.
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- Yeah, so a serious topic that affects lives, but also we can have some fun with it and make it interesting.
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- So, okay, so we're going to show this video. It's about 28 minutes long. If you guys have questions during it,
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- I noticed that you guys have been using the chat box already, so you can ask them questions. We'll have a little bit of time afterward for a short
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- Q &A, and then we'll go. So let's go ahead and get started on that.
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- So let's look at some of the famous frauds in the textbooks, and I imagine every one of you have seen these when you were in school.
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- This is Ernst Haeckel. He read Darwin's book 10 years after it came out in 1869, and he had the same problem
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- Darwinists have today. He couldn't find any evidence it happened. Well, so he did what Darwinists have become famous for.
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- He invented some evidence, and he came up with the biogenetic law, also called the theory of recapitulation.
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- Kids, ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. Well, how is a kid supposed to stand up and argue with that, right?
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- What that means is you go through your evolutionary stages while you're in your mother's womb. Now, I'm going to show you his drawings.
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- They go from left to right across the top. These are his drawings, and right below are the actual photos, but he's got these labeled humans, fish, chicken, turtle, et cetera, right?
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- It was proven in the 1870s. What Haeckel had done was he took a human in the embryonic stage and made a drawing of it, and then he made copies of that drawing and labeled them fish, salamander, turtle, et cetera, and came up with the theory of recapitulation, ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, that you go through your evolutionary stages in your mother's womb, proven fraud in the 1870s, and still taught in colleges today.
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- Here's an NAU textbook. I like to use their textbooks because they pick on me. I might as well pick on them,
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- I figure. It's kind of fair that way, but this is their textbook. It tells students whether they develop into fish, amphibians, or humans, vertebrate embryos all start out very similar with gill slits and a long tail.
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- I'm not there in those classrooms. Kids are being taught this is a fact. I'm surprised that only 85 % of Christian kids are leaving the church.
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- What's wrong with those other 15 %? Aren't they paying attention to what they're being taught? Look at this.
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- My friends, you never have gills. You never have gill slits. You have folds in the skin that develop into organs in the throat and neck area.
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- They're not gill pouches or gill slits. The NAU book goes on. In fact, let me say this.
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- You never have a long tail. One of the first things that develops in a human embryo is the backbone.
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- We named the end of the backbone the tailbone. It's not because there was ever a tail there.
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- It's just what we called it. Now the NAU book goes on. Why would humans, think logically students, why would humans have embryos with gill slits and a tail unless their ancestors also once had these features?
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- And kids' faith is destroyed. I don't know about you.
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- I get mad about it. Mad enough I'll go to NAU or ASU and I'll put this on in one of their auditoriums.
- 46:15
- You never had slits or gills. Those are folds in the skin that later develop into organs in your throat and neck area.
- 46:22
- We need to get this information to people. Have you ever heard that you're 98 % the same, your biochemistry is a chimpanzee?
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- Proving you're close relative to the chimp? Well actually real science, a believer's best friend, has this down to about 90%.
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- In fact, this one has chimp and human Y chromosomes as much as a 30 % difference.
- 46:44
- A 30 % difference? Talk about complexity. You're made up of about 80 trillion cells and each of your cells'
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- DNA contain 3 billion base pairs of genetic information.
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- Talk about complexity. A 30 % difference would require 925 million beneficial information -adding mutations to take place just to change a chimp into a human.
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- And Darwinists can't show you a viable one between bacteria cells and everything in the world. They'll stand up to scrutiny.
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- If genetic similarity proves our evolutionary past, they should teach kids we evolved from worms. You're 75 % the same, your biochemistry is some worms.
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- Like I said last night, you're 50 % the same as a banana. No jokes today, okay.
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- Can I even ask, did anyone evolve from a banana? Did anyone evolve from a banana? Not even one?
- 47:49
- Okay, usually there's somebody. Okay, one. One person. Have you ever heard that bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics or insects becoming resistant to insecticides is proof they're evolving bigger and better?
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- This has nothing to do with the evolution of new kinds with new and beneficial genetic information. Let's say
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- I had a thousand cockroaches right here on the floor and they were running right toward the front row, but I sprayed insecticide on them and killed 998, but two survived.
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- Did those two instantaneously evolve an immune system? No, they already had a gene in their gene pool that allowed them to survive.
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- Now the other 998 either didn't have it or it was switched off and they died.
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- The two evolved nothing. The information was already there.
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- Now when they have offspring, their offspring inherit that gene and the entire population is immune to the poison.
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- They evolved nothing. So why do Darwinists use this as one of their big proofs?
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- Because they've got nothing. They don't have any real evidence. You see gene depletion plus natural selection makes
- 49:02
- Darwinism a scientific impossibility. Yet this textbook says, hey kids, we have proof of evolution from the fossil record.
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- Well if Darwinism were true and the straddle layers formed slowly over never seen millions of years of time, they should be full of evidence if it really happened.
- 49:21
- They show these evolutionary trees of life and at the bottom they have the word typed in invertebrate ancestor.
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- Well why don't they show what it was? They wouldn't have any idea what it was. And then someone took a box of crayons and they drew nice colorful lines from the word invertebrate ancestor to everything on earth and that's supposed to prove everything evolved from the word invertebrate ancestor.
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- Does anyone thinking about it, does anyone actually see any proof of Darwinism there? No. For each one of those lines to be scientific, they'd have to be made up of millions of transitional fossils as one kind slowly changed into the other.
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- Here we are 150 plus years after Darwin's book came out and they don't have a single viable missing link of any sort that'll hold up to scientific scrutiny.
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- They only have about four or five they even try to throw out there and fool people with. You know thousands of creatures are found entombed in amber and we're told that this amber is up to 250 million years old.
- 50:25
- Well things are supposed to evolve over time, right? All the creatures found trapped in amber look just like the living ones today.
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- There's no evidence of Darwinism in the fossil record. We can trace the evolution through the fossil record.
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- To be specific just give me one. Um between six and seven million years ago.
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- Hundreds of thousands to millions of years. So it's quite a long time. Yes. Millions of years.
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- Yes. So it can't be observed. Evolution is is not testable over time.
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- This book says well Archaeopteryx is the missing link between reptiles and birds. This was found two years after Darwin's book came out.
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- Well they said well Archaeopteryx was about the size of a pigeon. It had claws on its wing proving it's a reptile becoming a bird.
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- Well the Hoidson is found in South America alive today. He's about the size of a pigeon and has claws on his wings.
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- No one's saying he's a missing link of any sort. Actually 20 almost 30 years ago they found, think about this, they found modern bird fossils below the layer that had
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- Archaeopteryx in it. Now they say that shows their evolutionary past as the layers form slowly.
- 51:42
- Well if if modern birds are there before Archaeopteryx he couldn't be much of a missing link could he?
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- And here's a real dagger through this. Reptile DNA doesn't have the genetic information to produce feathers which are very complex structures.
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- And real science, a believer's best friend, knows of no way for nature to add that kind of genetic information to a gene pool.
- 52:05
- In other words it doesn't add up. In fact now they're starting to say well you know Archaeopteryx he may not have been a missing link.
- 52:13
- Maybe he was he was a feather dinosaur. He was just a bird. He was a perching bird.
- 52:19
- An odd bird but a bird. Have you ever seen the whale evolution series or the camel evolution series etc?
- 52:25
- They're all pretty much the same. Here's the whale series. It shows this extinct land mammal and then Ambulocetus is the work of art.
- 52:31
- He's supposed to be the missing link. Here are the bones found. The white bones are found in a different strata layer in a different location.
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- They weren't in the same layers or locations but they put them together and they come up with about 25 percent of a skeleton and they say that's the missing link.
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- Ambulocetus, he had no pelvic girdle. They don't know if he ran, swam, flew or what but that's the missing link.
- 52:54
- And then Bacillosaurus is actually 10 times that size. But he wouldn't fit the propaganda if they drew him to size would he?
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- This book says that the low fin type fish are the missing link between fish and amphibians.
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- And the story goes the low fin couldn't swim so he walked around on the bottom of the ocean on those low fins.
- 53:19
- I guess one day he got bored so he climbed out on land and became an amphibian. It's a nice story but the amphibian has feet, shoulders, elbows, claws, skeletal system, a muscular system, a central nervous system and a different neck system.
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- Science knows there's no way for nature to add any new and beneficial genetic information much less the millions of pieces this would have required.
- 53:45
- And guess what? The low fin fish which they thought was extinct for 300 plus million years is found alive today.
- 53:52
- He doesn't walk around on the bottom of the ocean floor. He's a very good swimmer. And the fossilized version that they say is 300 million years old looks just like the living one with no evolutionary change.
- 54:06
- I always say there's two ways to look at the evidence so I say either that fish refutes the old earth dating methods and Darwinism or maybe that scuba diver is 325 million years old.
- 54:19
- You're going to have to make your own choice as to what you want to believe because there are two ways to look at all evidence.
- 54:25
- So this appropriately was announced on April Fool's Day in 2006 but this is now one of the messiahs of Darwinism.
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- Titalic rosea and here's when they found it and announced it. Think about what this says. It's still a fish but exhibiting changes that anticipate the beginning of digits, wrists, elbows and shoulders.
- 54:45
- Let me reread that. Think about this. It's exhibiting changes that don't even show the beginning that anticipate some random chance mutation in the future that'll lead to the beginning of wrists, shoulders, elbows.
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- How do you have random chance mutations that anticipate and this is now one of their messiahs,
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- Titalic. Think about this. Titalic and the fossilized lobefin fish that we find today have bones exactly like the living lobefin fish.
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- From the fossilized lobefin fish to the living lobefin fish there's no change in them. So why would we think
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- Titalic's turned into wrists, elbows, shoulders, etc. And this is one of their messiahs today.
- 55:37
- This NAU book and you know the NAU books are typical of all colleges. Don't think it's NAU. A lot of high schools as well.
- 55:45
- This NAU book says look all these creatures have two bones in the forelimb from a human arm, two bones in the forelimb, the wing of a bat, the foreleg of a horse or dog or a cat.
- 55:59
- There's two bones in the forelimb and it says proof they've all derived from a common ancestor.
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- And what do they say the common ancestor that we all evolved from is? The lobefin fish.
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- Can you believe that? And there's not a shred of change in the lobefin fish fossils found. My friends any argument of similarity whether it be similar bone structure, similar biochemistry is really a better argument that we have the same designer.
- 56:27
- Similarities are proof you have the same loving biblical creator. I drive a
- 56:32
- Ford pickup truck. My next door neighbor has a Ford van and their dashboards are identical.
- 56:41
- It's not because they evolved from a skateboard. It's because they have the same designer right?
- 56:48
- Absolutely. Similarities are proof of a similar designer. So in case you think it's just me saying that they've got no evidence, actually back in about 1930
- 56:57
- Richard Goldschmidt came up with the hopeful monster theory to explain why they have no evidence.
- 57:03
- And he said well maybe reptiles laid eggs and birds popped out leaving no evidence behind.
- 57:10
- Well most people were laughing at the hopeful monster theory. So 50 years later around 1980 world famous evolutionists
- 57:16
- Niles Eldridge and Stephen Gould of Harvard changed hopeful monster just slightly but they came up with, they gave it a better sounding name, punctuated equilibrium.
- 57:27
- This is now a key concept for Darwinian evolutionism. If a kid asks a professor why is there no evidence in the fossil record?
- 57:36
- He's going to say punctuated equilibrium. Don't you know anything? But what that means by the way is evolution didn't just happen overnight but it happened in a short spurt of time and then there's a long period with no change.
- 57:48
- They call it stasis. And then a period of fast evolution in a long period with no change so no evidence was captured in the fossil record.
- 57:59
- It's not just me saying they've got no evidence. They've got a theory to explain when they've got what? No evidence.
- 58:05
- They've got no evidence. I thought science was knowledge derived from the study of the evidence.
- 58:13
- Darwinism isn't science and neither is millions of years beliefs or both beliefs. You might be thinking oh come on Russ what about the ape man?
- 58:22
- I mean we've all been showed the hominids the closest link between ape and man right? Let's take a look at some of the famous hominids.
- 58:29
- Here's a modern textbook showing humans related to jellyfish and worms connected by a nice red line.
- 58:37
- What more could you want than a nice red line? And you know I can sit here and when we're just talking about this it starts to look kind of silly doesn't it?
- 58:45
- But if you're a student in school and you've gone home and read the book and you sit in class and you're told look this is the evolution proof you're not going to be thinking this is silly.
- 58:55
- You're going to most likely accept it and you're going to be one of those 85 percent that leave the church by the age of 20.
- 59:03
- Piltdown man was the messiah of evolution from about 1912 to the mid 1950s for 45 years.
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- This was actually this uh Piltdown man was probably the number one reason we eventually kicked creation and prayer out of our schools and start teaching our future citizens they evolved without God because it changed so many people's thinking over that 45 year period.
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- And then finally in about 1955 it was discovered these jokers had taken the skull cap of a human, the jawbone from an orangutan, felled them down to fit together, acid treated both sides and buried them in a rock quarry in Piltdown England, came along two years later dug up Piltdown man and spent the rest of their lives as world -renowned evolutionists speaking wherever they wanted to speak and misled not millions, billions of people into rejecting
- 59:56
- Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It's based on a total fraud. Nebraska man was used as proof for Darwinism.
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- All they found in Nebraska man back in the 1920s was a piece of a broken tooth but they got pretty creative from the broken tooth they reconstructed
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- Nebraska man, his family, even the tools they would have worked with from a piece of a broken tooth.
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- It was later proven that tooth came from an extinct peccary, extinct pig.
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- There's a real Nebraska man right there. So in 1932 they found a crushed lower jawbone it was crushed in about 40 pieces it had all apes teeth but they reconstructed those 40 pieces and lo and behold it came out in the shape of a human jawbone with all apes teeth and thus was born ramepithecus the missing link and into textbooks again for 45 years went ramepithecus teaching kids they evolved without God and then in 1977 it was proven that was actually the jawbone from an orangutan after misleading hundreds of millions of people into rejecting
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- Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. So a kid studying to be a dentist hands me his advanced biology book from dental school and he says hey
- 01:01:17
- Russ look through my book pick out some frauds hey we could be here for a week going through the frauds you're when you leave here today
- 01:01:22
- I'm not going to cover every fraud there's too many you're going to have to be able to stand on your own and say if this goes against the
- 01:01:28
- Word of God I'm putting my faith in the Word of God you can't put your faith in these things it's sad but it's just the way it is put your faith in the
- 01:01:36
- Word of God. So I'm just flipping through the book while he's talking to me and there's the drawing of ramepithecus's teeth so that caught my eye because it was proven to be an orangutan 35 plus years ago well now they put it back into the modern advanced biology books with the new name it's called civipithecus and it says this genus now includes the animal formerly known as ramepithecus that was proven to be an orangutan 35 years ago and now he's branched off into ancestors anyways the author of the book somehow someone told told on me for pointing this out so they called me and they were going to sue me
- 01:02:14
- I said what are you going to sue me for you're making fun of me I'm not making fun of you I'm just showing you what people what you put in your book to take it out of the book
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- I won't talk about it anymore anyways she hasn't she hasn't sued me yet that was two years ago so so now this has been the messiah for evolution since about 1974 this is lucy and these were the bones originally found with lucy about 30 percent of a skeleton and they said look we know it's an ape becoming human because the femur the thigh bone angles to the knee and human thigh bones angle to the knee they they said that proves it's a ape becoming human they forgot to mention that almost all tree dwelling apes have angled femurs they said but the knee joint is think about this slightly bigger than a normal ape's knee my friends if you took every knee joint in this room they'd be different sizes there's no proof of evolution there they also forgot to point out that the knee joint in question was found over a mile away and 230 feet deeper in the strata yeah if that was lucy's knee
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- I want to see the airplane that hit that monkey because he must have been going about 700 miles an hour right through the treetops right now other such fossils have been found since australopithecus afarensis is a scientific name they have curved toes and fingers for grabbing on a tree lens this from 30 years ago anatomists have concluded these creatures are not a link between ape and man and did not walk upright like a human yet here's a new textbook showing lucy walking perfectly upright like a human talking on a cell phone