Am I Racist?

There's a new movie out called am I racist put out by Daily Wire's Matt Walsh asking the question of am I a racist goes through and He is playing the role of training himself to be a DEI expert. This movie was Hysterical and yet it got people to say what they wouldn't normally want said but they thought they were with Friendly, so you get to see what they actually say behind the scenes now.

This was the strange thing about this. I. Your host here at the rap report. Andrew rap report was invited on to another one of the Christian podcast community podcasts Where I was asked to come on to the show.

Are you just watching to do a movie review? I know my regular audience you're going what I know I'm pop culture illiterate but this one is a little different more politically based and dealing with things that we deal with here on the rap report, so I Wanted to go see that movie and the host of are you just watching Eve Franklin?

Needed someone to review it with so we got together and did a movie review of that movie. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you go and see the movie because it was great. But this is our review of that on the are you just watching podcast?

I hope you enjoy it. And I hope that this is educational because we talk more than just the movie. It's actually a cult. Hmm.

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Exploring a cult from the inside isn't always pretty but it can be quite hilarious. Are you just watching episode 153. Am I racist. Welcome to the podcast that shares critical thinking for the entertained Christian.

I'm Eve Franklin.

I'm Andrew Appleport. I'm not Tim Martin. Wait a minute. How'd I get in here?

Yeah, so I have a guest on with me this month and Tim was not able to record and Andrew has just been Chomping at the bit to join me to talk about the movie, but he's actually watched.

Let's explain this to the audience. So people understand the joke here. I am pop culture illiterate and Basically the closest I come to understanding movies is by listening to are you just watching. And that gives me enough that I don't now.

Need to to watch. Yep, I don't really watch movies. I'm not really and this is the joke you and I always have. People will talk about actors or actresses and I go who I don't even know who they are. So what am I doing here?

Well, I actually watched a movie. You actually watched two movies.

But we're only gonna talk about one of them today. Movies in like two weeks. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because I guess it was a good month for for movies that attracted Andrews attention. I'm done for ten years.

Yeah, just to let my audience know. In case they haven't tuned in to the rest of the Christian podcast community though I do tag you at the end of every episode. Andrew rap report is actually my boss in the CPC and he does the rap report and.

Do you still do the the brief one as well or just the full. I am not. Do so I have Andrew reports rap report. So if you just do rap report two peas rap with two peas, you'll you'll find it. I have a daily one that I had put on pause for a long time.

But now that that is on the radio in Utah I have to start recording more of those so I have to start that up. Do a weekly live stream called apologetics live. Where anyone can come in ask any questions.

You can go to apologetics live comm to see. When we do it at Thursday nights 8 to 10 Eastern, we usually will have a topic but you can come in and ask any question. I Have any question you have about God in the Bible and if you doubt that Challenge me, but just remember I don't know is a perfectly good answer.

Yes. I don't know is a perfectly good answer. I agree with that.

But what we're going to talk about today is the daily wire movie. Am I racist which actually was in theaters? I think this is their first movie that they have released as a feature in In theaters and it seems to be doing very well.

I I watched Matt Walsh on a another podcast YouTube last night and they looked up the live stats for movies and it was number three. So it's doing quite well and Unfortunately, all of the main review places like what is it Rotten Tomatoes and all of them are giving it You know negligent to nothing scores because they don't want to acknowledge that it exists but the movie is actually quite good and I thought it would be fun to bring Andrew on to talk about it because this is not a movie that My normal co-host Tim Martin is comfortable talking about so this will give us something that new for our listeners.

So because we both wanted to talk about the what is a woman and I never actually got to review that one. So that was a good movie. I agree. I mean.

Walsh does do some Good funny movies. I will say that. Yeah. Yeah.

I I'm not entirely sure what I think of Matt Walsh is a Christian, but his movie-making skills are quite good. So and we can discuss that later. Sure, just our initial reactions mine. Obviously are a little bit more verbose than answers.

Isn't a minute. I thought it was a really good comedy and After discussing a couple movies in the past where we Tim and I were Reviewing secular comedies that I did not find funny. I actually laughed when I watched this one, which is you know Definitely an improvement over the comedies that I have been recently reviewing.

This one was actually funny. Maybe it's just because I understand conservative humor better than I do secular humor. I don't know, but I found this movie very funny and it was hard to stop laughing While watching it.

I'm impressed that Matt Walsh was able to stay so straight-faced and Unemotional in the process of these interviews and I'm not sure I could do that. I tend to be a little bit too much emotive when it comes to you know, these kind of debates but that's I guess how Matt manages to do this stuff and I This approach is interesting because a lot of times when we talk about liberal issues and political issues.

We tend to be in our own bubble and we talk about them. We we say what they say. But we don't necessarily have the opportunities to actually have them say it so that we can rebut them directly. Because these people typically will not come into debates with conservatives or Christians.

They just refuse to get in the same room with them. So this movie gave us the wonderful opportunity to actually hear these people saying these things. Directly one-on-one with somebody and I mean, we're not making this stuff up.

They actually said this stuff. He filmed them saying this stuff. So it gives us a different perspective well that allows us to speak boldly about their positions and Finally I don't know that we'll deal much in our talking about the movie but there was a section of this movie near the end that I really appreciated where Matt Walsh goes on the road and to talk to actual black Americans to find out what their views on white privilege and All of that stuff white fragility and all of the issues that he'd been learning about what their actual views on and that was probably The most wholesome content and the whole thing.

So I really appreciated that Andrew, why don't you tell us what you thought of the movie? It was good.

No, no for folks who may not realize so this the film is about what's referred to as D E I. D I stands for diversity equity and inclusion. Granted I think that the last two letters should be just reversed and call it what it is die.

Because that's what it brings about death. But yeah, look if you saw what is a woman Matt Walsh you mentioned him having an ability to keep a straight face. I don't know how he did it in what is a woman?

Because he's there he's interviewing different people on what is a woman and transgenderism and all this stuff. The shift in this Film is now he's taking on the role of a D E I Advocate. He's a trainer.

So he's going through his process where he's learning. How do what do I got a study to do this? Literally $29. That's all it took for him to get a certification as a DEI expert. Because of that he was able to get on TV, you know shows news shows.

To act as a DEI expert promoting his workshop that he does.

Was do. Yeah, what's really interesting is I said that I'd seen him on another podcast last night and He mentioned that that Online course that only cost $29. He didn't actually do it one of his producers did.

That's that's what it takes to be an expert so there you go, you don't even have to do the work. Which is kind of irony, there's an irony there I'm not gonna spoil it for you, but there's an irony there when you watch the film toward the end.

What his workshop is called? But the work it's important to know he didn't do the work. Just saying. Yeah so it's it really so going into this I had a couple things because. The first film he did what is a woman?

It was very clear that Was doing interviews it was very clear it was it was set up so that he's got people that he's gonna interview and That was before he was really well known. It was actually some of the things he did in Developing that documentary that got him so well-known and some of that way in the documentary, but now he's well-known.

And it's amazing that he can get on television on national television. Just by saying his name is Matt and he's a he's a DEI expert. He's he's certified. That's all he never had to give his last name.

Yep range and I Walked into the saying and I said this to my bride. I want to know how he pulled some of this off because some of the. When you do an interview you're signing up and getting approval to record.

How is he going into? Dinners where he's not even allowed to be there because there's only women only white women with Blacks that are gonna tell white women how racist they are men are not allowed. How does he get in and record?

How does he record some of these people and the whole goal of this? It's he's going down the line of learning to be a DEI expert and he's interviewing people and getting them to come on to train him and There's different things where I said, okay, I want to make sure this isn't just make-believe like they just made it up.

But then as well, I'm sure we'll get to later. We end up finding out that some of the people in the film. Well, they they shut their ex accounts down just before the film came out. They put out statements.

Trying to say how Matt deceived them. I mean he was real deceptive say what the writer of white fragility said that he he deceived by calling himself Matt. Which actually is his name yeah, she never asked for him a last name so he never provided it.

Whose fault is that like? Oh, he did a really bad thing. He called himself by his first name. Okay, and he probably called you Robin, which was your first name. What a surprise. Yeah, I was interested to see how he was gonna pull this off and I think a lot of what it is is.

Some they said they were doing a documentary. Under the name they had a name for the what they expected the documentary to be which was like shadow justice. And then they changed it to am I racist? And so the key I think for this film is.

You got to see what people are saying behind the scenes. When they don't think anyone is you know, it's just those that agree with them, right? Yeah when they're inside their bubble. Yeah, right we get to see the truth.

Yeah, I thought one of the more interesting interviews in there was the one where he talked to the gentleman that wrote the hate crime hoax and He was interviewing him the author of hate crimes hoax as a DEI expert.

And it turns out that he thought and I put this in quotation marks that they'd left hoax off of it. So he thought they he wrote a book about hate crimes and then they got him in there. They started he started like debunking the whole hate crime thing and he's like, wait a minute.

Wait a minute. What are you doing? And it was all set up because obviously they knew he wrote a crime hoax. But he was interviewing him as if he was a D DEI Specialist who then got thrown off by his input and it was funny.

Well, the that's an that was a very amazing way of teaching truth because throughout its movie Matt Walsh is supposed to be someone who is Learning and believing the DEI agenda. So how do you then bunked in a film like that?

How do you debunk to all the stuff? Will you bring someone in? And Let them debunked. And Matt is trying to give arguments for DEI and this guy's just nailing one after another. And it's there's a point where yes.

You said the author says I think he left the word hoax off of the book. Like why he starts to get puzzled like why is he being interviewed? In this style of interview now, I would love to have seen his face when he finds out.

Afterwards, like I don't know when Matt Walsh and that his production crew told the guy it would be hilarious if if they never did. Until it's released. That would have been the best, right? Whenever they did.

I mean that guy we must have been like, oh wow, like I've been had and it's a great way to be had. I mean it was it's really good. Yeah.

He was one of the the better interviews.

There were a lot of good interviews and yeah. Look, the the fact is is that one of the things I thought was quite interesting about the film we could get into this later, I'm sure but One of the things Matt Walsh did was expose that you get a $29 Course and you could be a DEI expert.

But he was showing the price that he had to pay to get each of these people. One of the things that amazed me was the person who got paid the most Was probably least qualified to be there and that's the woman who by me.

This is not far from where I live is Sesame Street and there was a video where one of the characters that is walking around is shaking hands of the kids looks up and Is looks at someone but then doesn't see two black kids.

Here's the irony. They're black kids who this character did shake the hands. But just this woman and so she claimed it's racist. She needed she would not go on To be interviewed unless she got $50 ,000 and the whole point of him showing the money is to show this is why these people do it.

They're doing it because they're getting paid. Yeah, very well. I mean this much like Matt Walsh asked the mother Do you know the color of the person in the in the suit and she's like no they won't release that.

So, how do you know it wasn't racist? What if it was a black person in there? Right that changes everything but yeah, you know the question with that is Eve Support is not necessarily a bad thing right here.

They're they're getting paid a lot of money to promote this DEI, which is why they do it. But you know you do this show pretty much out of the love of your heart and the enjoyment of it. But people can support you.

Can't they? Yes. Yeah. In fact since she brought it up.

I'll go ahead and do my plug for that. We're listener supported and I have some gentlemen that give regularly to the support of my podcast. So I like to mention them in every episode Isaiah Santiano Craig Hardy Stephen Brown the second David Lefton and Peter Chapman.

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Are you just watching and consider a monthly gift to support this podcast? Thank you Andrew for that wonderful way of plugging my support. Well done. Well, I'm good with transitions.

I'm a professional podcaster after all. Yes, you are you are and.

And Tim and I are just playing at it.

No, because you got supporters that makes you a professional. See that I didn't look. All I need is a dollar to be a professional. And if I had $29, I could be a DEI expert.

That's right, I'm an influencer. I get money off of people who pay me to do this so that that's very true.

Well to support really because people don't often think about how much it costs to do a podcast there's Expenses that are involved. So. That's the reality. I mean, I think you and I both do this out of love of our heart.

Oh, yeah, I my podcasts are more teaching based with doing either apologetics or hermeneutics how to interpret the Bible. But.

We're not gonna make a living off it. And people who think they can go into podcasting professionally and make money off of it get disillusioned very quickly.

Hey, can we give them some inside baseball? Even though I don't really know what that ends up meaning I just know it means you tell like inside secrets, but here's the thing we get people that apply to the Christian podcast community.

I'm thinking of one right now. They we did the we got this far as the interview and. The guy that had the podcast actually said he wanted to retire and do this full-time and. Well, okay after even I got done laughing We tried to I explained to him like you're not gonna quit your job and do this full-time.

Like you're not gonna be Joe Rogan. Sorry. Yeah. There's only one show Rogan. Yeah, he had a huge platform before he got started. All right, and we burst his bubble and he just had no more interest. Yeah.

Yeah. Podcasting is a labor of love. Yeah.

Well, the first thing that I kind of wanted to talk about in regards to this movie was the cult that is DEI and I Think that this movie really exposed that and in a very real way. Because a lot of the people that he talked to Really spoke about it in religious terms, even though I think that they would think they were very unreligious Nuns as I think it's called these days as an n o n e not in you in but they spoke in very religious terms and one of the first ones that really popped out was the Bookstore lady that he was asking about books that he could read and she mentioned that white fragility.

Was the DEI Bible? I don't remember whether she said it was a white man's Bible the white people's Bible or DEI Bible. But she referred to it as a Bible. You know to be a cult you have to have your religious book.

The white fragility and then you have to have you know sins that people do in order that they you know that they get atoned For and they listed quite a few sins and they were all having to do with being white.

So I didn't see them saying that anybody other than white people commit these sins. So it's Being white is the first one smiling too much. Or not smiling enough when they see a person of color not admiring or having People of color role models.

That was a really interesting one that I think shows up in the preview. So if you haven't seen the movie, but you have seen the preview you've seen that one a cultural appropriation not listening to or Valuing a person of colors lived experience.

This is one that has gotten thrown at me by people that I actually went to church with many years ago they told me that I was racist because I refused to sit down in a Struggle session with a bunch of black ladies and hear them talk about why they thought I was racist.

So yeah, I guess I'm racist just because I don't value their lived experiences. And then there was a very interesting line in the I Think you mentioned it already the dinner where they were just telling white people how racist they were.

They made the comment is that if you need to cry you need to go leave and go to the cry room because when a white Woman cries she draws all the attention to her. So I just learned that I am NOT supposed to cry in public because I will draw all the attention to myself.

So that's a one of a de I sin, but it was okay for them to draw the attention to.

Themselves see right this a little bit of critical thinking. What's this program about this whole show? Oh critical thinking and and you don't go to Go to Amazon and you can get the workbook on are you just watching and when you go see movies?

You could apply just a little bit just a little bit of critical thinking. Critical thinking is what's lacking in this culture. And that's why this de I cult can can occur, right? I mean, I just put out a post because.

You know Kamala Harris has said that you know a woman died Because of Trump's abortion banned. What did she die of she took the abortion pill? That she was given at an abortion clinic. Yeah, so what actually die of an abortion, right?

So, how did he have the abortion if Trump banned it like a little bit of critical thinking? Yeah, you mentioned de I as a cult in my book. What do they believe which is dealing with the major Western religions?

I in the introduction give a definition of a cult now. If you look at that book, I'm gonna give a different definition for de I because that book is dealing with religious cults where you're dealing with so there's five points that I'd have of you have to have a you know, some authoritarian Person or organization you have scripture twisting.

Okay in a case like this. They're not going to be using scripture in the first place that in yes, you're saying they they claim to wait for a dealer. G is the Bible but. What we have is, you know, there's isolationism.

Eclusivism and harm that's done. That's what we'd see in a religious circle. But really at its core what you're dealing with is is control. And so there's another definition that I'd like to use for a cult here.

Okay, and it is you can think of it from the acronym bite. It's behavior control information control thought control and emotion control. And as you go through this film. You will see each of those things and how they play out in our society where they are trying to control behavior.

You you will see that in the way they're trying to make white people feel bad about being white and. Therefore they have to do something different and treat people different. Well treat blacks different.

Information control because you're only supposed to be allowed to have certain information. You shouldn't be you shouldn't receive any information. That's not from their approved sources. You have thought control.

That you're supposed to think of the way they want you to think and and you're supposed to well you mentioned it emotional control. White people shouldn't be crying over over their their racism. They should just be doing whatever blacks tell them to do.

Yeah, and so you see that when we were saying it's a cult. The one characteristic of cults is control and you can see in the bite Acronym that the DEI throughout this film will show you that they fit that definition of a cult.

Yes, definitely and you know when we look at the kind of Sensitivity training that they that you know, Matt goes into in this course of the movie where you know He's being told that for white folks. The only thing they can do Because they're racist is to reallocate our resources and privileges to balance out systemic inequalities.

And then also do have the hard conversations that we've been putting off for years. Which means we're supposed to be telling all of our white friends and family that they are racist. We can't just sit on our hands and let racism go unmentioned.

We have to get involved and speak out against it. And you know It's very interesting because if you look at the controlling mechanisms in this DEI Cult the vast majority of the women that he talked to in his course of learning To be a good DEI expert.

They were all white women. Not all of them, but the vast majority of them were white women. So it's like why is it that it's the white women that are so vocal on this issue? I think there was maybe two black ladies that were experts.

The first one in that first group he was with and then one of the ladies at the dinner it was was black.

Well, I think part of the reason for that is That they think well one reason is because the white women want to make a lot of money. Yeah, they can. Right, the idea is that they'll be more receptive by other white women and.

So that gets more people buying into this, right?

Yeah, I guess and and like you said the proprietors of all of this are are leading people astray simply for the wealth of it. I thought it was very interesting that there was the near the end Robin. Was it the Angelo?

Is that her name? She's the author of white fragility and and Matt finally was able to get an interview with her and In the course of that he plays a trick on her.

I want to set up just a little bit of some behind-the-scenes because For two weeks before the film came out Matt Walsh kept doing interviews and he kept saying Robin DiAngelo with that part that you think won't be in the film that you're so worried about will be in the film it's in the film and so He was egging her on.

Well, her response was a public statement she put out. Which what convinced me that this was not something where Matt did it colluding with them because when when I heard about this I thought like is this guy just gonna play like get people and play along.

Just for them, but the fact that she realized that if that's in the film She's gonna it's gonna hurt her brand. Right. It's something that is kind of a spoiler. But since she has publicly talked about it you spoiling it well, it's really out there like you have to see the film to know about it, but the fact that she came out and Had to talk about this.

It shows you that she was not approving of it, but she knew there was she signed off and there was she had no legal choices, of course, yeah recourse. Yeah, so that spoke volumes to me going into the film to go.

Okay, this was not a setup thing because I was wondering. Throughout this because I've been let down in the past where you think it where they make it sound like oh, look. It's a it's big documentary where they expose things and you find out they were all working together.

So that's what told me they weren't working together. She goes into exposing it. You know, she said I knew something was up because the grips those other guys that hold the camera. They wouldn't look at me and you know, he had this funny wig on and he kept using this name Matt.

Well, okay, that's actually his name that's why he used it. But the fact that needed was a wig to get her to not recognize who he was. Okay. But then he's going through and just asking her like she's now keep in mind.

This is like a two-hour interview. Like you see these clips throughout the film and like the dinner that you mentioned earlier that was like a two three-hour dinner. They just take clips of it. Mm-hmm.

So he has her there. He's doing this whole thing. He wants to see if he can get her to do something which was what?

So there the whole deal with DEI is that they want Reparations for the black community for all the harm done to them for through racism. His producer is black. And so he's he had him come out and sit down and he's like, I'm I'm going to Give you reparations.

And Robin was like super puzzled by it and she's like You know give it directly to him and he's like, well, why should we wait on the system to fix itself? Let's actually pay the money if let's put our you know.

Our money where our mouths are and actually, you know pay the reparations. And so he takes money out of his pocket and gives it to his producer Ben. I think is his name. And then he looks at her like are you gonna do it?

And she's like you want me to give him. She Says and and he just really he's like well, you know, you said you wanted to pay them reparations. Here's a black man. You can pay him reparations. And so she gets up and goes and finds her purse and digs some cash out gives it to him.

The amazing thing and the thing that I think was so interesting with that scene was She was looking at him like you want me to give him money? What did she want? She wanted she's Was saying well that's really an institutional thing like the government should take the money and give it.

She didn't want to give her own money. And that's why matt pressured her. He's like, well, don't you think it should start with us? And she's she's like was trying to get out of it. She turns to him like would it make you happy if I gave you money?

He goes. Well, i'm not going to turn money away. Should I go get my wallet and he's like? Yeah, right. This tells you what the real issue is with this whole thing. They don't personally want to do what they say.

They want the government to do it in other words. They don't want to pay their own money in reparations. They want the government to take it from people and give it to people as reparations. That's the difference with what they're trying to do.

And so As we end up seeing it. It shows us on they don't really believe what they believe and matt was calling them out and that's why that was such an uncomfortable situation for her because what it exposed was that.

She wants the government to take money from other from some people and give it to others called stealing. But she doesn't want to have to give of her own money. She wants the government to do it with other people's money and matt was trying to call out the fact that fact and he did It brilliantly because you saw how she did not want to give her money but he was willing to and calling real shouldn't start with us shouldn't we be the ones to set the example and It is a great scene to really expose What they really believe behind the scenes.

You know here was one of the things that came up in that interview she made a statement that for white people They cannot stop being racist. It's a continuum now. Again, a little bit of critical thinking.

This is what I do in my rapper podcast. I kind of teach critical thinking and hermeneutics how we interpret the bible. But we apply a little bit of critical thinking if white people cannot stop being racist now first off.

It's not that black people can stop they somehow can't be racist at all. But they say whites cannot stop you mentioned a term earlier systemic. This became a big popular thing that america is systemically racist.

Well, if it's systemic. You can never fix the system.

That's the the meaning of they don't want to they want to burn it all down. That's what several of them said with america's not fixable. We just have to burn it to the ground. They're very anti-american as well.

And so I want you to think about really what this movie is showing is the marxist agenda. That's behind all this and you saw it in the black lives matter protest right. We we heard all this talk about january 6th with an insurrection and I don't mean to get political.

But just looking at facts and definitions. An insurrection is when you use violence to try to change a government system. You had two years of people burning cities and saying they're doing it to put an end to the systemic system Of racism and they wanted to burn it down and change the system.

That is the very definition of an insurrection. Where on january 6th, there's a very weird insurrection where all the people forgot to bring their guns. In fact, there are people that are in prison because they left their guns in the hotel rooms.

You know outside of dc because they can't bring a gun into dc. Yes, they locked it in their hotel, which is kind of weird that they got charged with gun possession charges. When they left their gun behind right?

So so when we do this, we look at the critical thinking we have to recognize that. One of the things you don't hear from these dei people the dei want to blame all of the whites for slavery. But they want to ignore the blacks in africa that kidnapped other blacks and sold them into slavery.

That's a major issue if you're going to really want this now i'm going to shock your you eve and your audience. But you mentioned the idea of reparations. And for years I have said I am fully on board with reparations.

I support reparations in america. I think that Everyone who is part of the party that supported slavery. In other words the the democrat the democrats who fought for slavery. They were the party of the kkk.

They were the party that fought against letting the the republicans allowing blacks in congress. They were the party that fought against the civil liberties movement. They fought every single thing to keep blacks enslaved until they figured out that they can keep them enslaved a different way.

And just get them on A welfare system and keep them on the government dole. So they keep voting for them over and over and over so it's just a different type of slavery. But they've always been the party of slavery.