May 24, 2021 Tribute Show with Fern Hill on “When Tragedy is Transformed into a Ministry: The Timothy Hill Children’s Ranch Story”

I'm Chris Arnzen, host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio. A very dear friend of mine for over 30 years, Fern Hill, co-founder with her husband Jerry of the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch, a home for orphaned, abused, and abandoned children in Riverhead, Long Island, New York, passed away peacefully in her sleep and entered into eternity with her Lord, God, Savior, King, and Friend, Jesus Christ, early Monday morning, May 17th, 2021, at the age of 86.

I had interviewed Fern and Jerry quite a number of times over the years, and known only to our omniscient Lord, my last interview with Fern would be on December 3rd, 2020. Today, I am airing that wonderful interview once again as a rerun, and I hope you are as richly blessed by our conversation as I was.

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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Lake City, Florida, and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth, who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host at Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Thursday on this third day of December, 2020.

And it's been 11 years since I have had my guest today on the program, a dear friend of mine, probably one of the longest lasting friendships that I have had that continues to this day, which began in about the 1980s when my guest's husband was a minister at a church at Bethpage, where my older brother, Bob, was a member.

That's how I first met Jerry and Fern Hill, who are founders of the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch in Riverhead, Long Island, New York. And today, we have Fern Hill on, the wife of Jerry. We were supposed to have Jerry on the program as well today, but Fern will explain in just a moment why Jerry could not be on the show with us.

But it is such an honor and privilege to have you back on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, my precious friend Fern Hill.

It's so great to be back with you, Chris. Thank you so much.

Yes, it's a pleasure is all mine, sister. And and well, if you could explain why your dear husband, Jerry, my good friend, could not be on the program today with you.

On the 20th of November, just before kitchen and made my shake for me, which he usually does every morning, and then went back into man a few minutes later and the lights were on and the door was open to the bathroom, but he wasn't there.

And I looked down in the floor, clutching the bed frame, said, Honey, what are you doing? No answer. So I knelt down beside and said, Sweetheart, what are you doing?

Joy. Well, I hope that everybody listening will certainly pray for our dear friend, Jerry Hill, Fern's husband of many years. How long have you been married?

Sixty four years.

Wow. Praise God. And how old is Jerry, if you don't mind me asking? And other than or should I say before this stroke, that would be very hard to believe because Jerry has more had more vitality and energy and just enthusiasm for life than most people that I know my age and younger.

Well, in June, he played in the iron one day.

Well, I was the one that actually called Jerry to arrange this interview just now, just days before this occurred. And he just sounded as chipper and as lively and as excited and happy and joyful as he always does.

He was he was so excited about it and told me about it. And so he was thrilled to get there. He's not with us today in this interview, but I want to give our listeners our email.

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And today our theme is when tragedy is transformed into a ministry, the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch story. You have told this story on our program several times, Fern. And in fact, even several times before I had my own radio program, I was instrumental in getting you interviewed by the late Andy Anderson on WMCA radio, where I worked for 15 years.

And Andy always loved interviewing both you and Jerry. But since it has been 11 years, as I said, over 11 years, it was in August of 2009, the last time I had you two on my program when we were still broadcasting out of the studios at WNYG and WGBB in Babylon, Long Island, New York.

I can still remember vividly that day when you were there. And so since it's been so long, there's a whole new audience of Iron Trip and Zion Radio that likely has never heard the story of the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch.

And it really begins in Riverhead, Long Island, eastern Suffolk County with your young son, Timothy, who was a bit of a child prodigy. And tell us about this young man who was your first son, if I'm not mistaken.

Timothy Hill’s Gifted Childhood and Early Dream

OK, Timothy is only 13 years old. Do those three different instruments, the violin, the bass violin, the piano and the guitar every day. And he loved and always talked about God to them and to the children in the neighborhood.

He loved people. He loved animals. And when he was 12, he came to me one day and saved my money and found a place to keep a horse and bought the food for the horse and paid for the. He darted out the door and his foster sister at that time.

We'd had several. He said, I know the reason you told him that you think he can't do it. She said, I know Timothy and he'll do it. And I thought he would, too. Maybe the time he was 17 years of age, but never dreamed.

And so that was the day he went out and got his first paper route. And they came back the next day with two more paper routes. And he did save his money. He did buy his own horse. He did feed his own horse.

He did do the rent around. No, you have the little to go. And my brother let me know why. Immediately started writing them down on a piece of paper.

Amen. That was your first book. And we'll at some point in the program get around to having you let our listeners know about your current book, your latest book, Gifts from Glory, a collection of true stories on prayer.

But before Timothy was tragically killed by that truck, he had already had a dream. And I don't mean this in a supernatural sense, but he had a vision that one day he wanted to start a ranch for homeless children because he had seen you and Jerry and had lived with foster children that you and Jerry had welcomed into your home and had taken care of.

And he saw the love that you demonstrated toward them. And he had this idea, since he himself loved horses and farm animals, that an ideal setting for a home for homeless children would be a ranch. And that was another thing.

Did not the Lord lay upon your hearts, you and Jerry, after the death of Timothy?

He had already purchased his own horse and he was actually saving money. He was saving his money from his paper route and work on the farm to buy prop. And he was working on that. He literally had gone to real estate agents and looked for all over the country that he was looking for the proper land to have a ranch for homeless children.

He'd seen much healing take place in the lives of children in our home. But he felt that every child ought to have farm, ought to have a farm to work on, ought to have dirt, have animals to work with, which we didn't have because we just lived in a housing development.

And I can remember it was somewhat humorous that you and Jerry were getting phone calls from real estate agents saying, do you know that your 12 year old son has showed up at our office pricing property?

He even went to Oklahoma and tried to buy back his grandparents. He would do it. And he was only 12 years old at that time. They took him very seriously.

Yeah, that's that is the story of that young man, Timothy. It really embarrasses me as a 57 year old man knowing.

He still inspires me to this day because people ask for an unusual, just hurting young people come here and in the morning and see the transformation. And our theme is.

Amen. And I have seen the operation of the ranch firsthand. In fact, as you likely remember, I actually lived on the premises of the ranch for several weeks after I after I graduated from alcohol rehab at the a wonderful place that I always sing the praises of whenever I have the opportunity, Hebron Colony in Boone, North Carolina, which is a Christian drug and alcohol recovery ministry.

It's the oldest alcohol recovery ministry in the United States that's still running. And they have a facility for men in Boone, North Carolina, and a facility for women in Santee, South Carolina. And after I got out of there, I spent at least three weeks on the premises of the ranch and got more of a one on one kind of familiarity with the kids there and seeing how it operated firsthand.

And I was always very impressed with with how the ranch functions and how these children, even though kids are kids, they had the highest respect for the staff there. And, you know, potentially in other circumstances, it could be a powder keg.

You have these children from troubled homes all together. And you could imagine in the wrong setting the violence that could break out and all kinds of things that could be explosive.

And the violence does still break out from time to time when we get some new kids in here. The ones who've been here for a while began to appreciate it, but none of them want to be here in the beginning.

And some of them are so angry. Even Thanksgiving Day, we had the day before Thanksgiving, we were new and they didn't get a home visit that they'd been and they were so angry, they completely broke the bill.

We have things like that to happen, but we just have to deal with it and realize they're hurting and and we just have to deal with it. And in fact, you'll be glad to know this, that many of our staff, several of our staff today are former residents.

Yes. So they know how the kids are feeling.

It was it was so heartwarming to know that the children who grew up and went on to pursue their lives and get jobs and get married and so forth, how they would very frequently return because they had such precious memories of being there and such a fondness and love for you and Jerry.

Residents come that was that is in the Marines and he was so thrilled to get to come back home and visit that this is his home as far as he's concerned and it is for so.

Many. And what I'd like you to do is is back up a little bit, because obviously when you and Jerry knew that you were going to make or at least you were going to prayerfully attempt to make Timothy's dream of a ranch for homeless children a reality other than the fact that you took in foster children.

This was obviously a monumental task ahead of you, and I'm sure that you are wondering how are we actually going to pull this off? I mean, there must have been a bit of fear and trembling in your hearts and minds taking on an enormous task like this.

I think we were too naive to fear and tremble with it done. And so many people told it wouldn't be done because we were working with a congregation that was a small congregation and drug addicts, alcoholics, prostitutes, and we had not one businessman in the congregation, not one doctor, not one lawyer, none of that.

Whereas when we were in Tennessee, we were with a congregation full of those type people. And so everybody told us it couldn't be done. We didn't have the backing, could be done. We knew that God was in control.

And I'm sure that there are some listeners saying, wait a minute, this woman's from.

Riverhead, Long Island. She sure doesn't sound like you're from Oklahoma originally,.

Right? I was born in Oklahoma.

And Jerry, your dear husband, is from Tennessee. Yes. And by the way, I'm glad that you have preserved your accent, though. I don't know if Oklahomans pick up any New York accent, but you sound like an Oklahoman to me.

One thing that would be sure of great interest to our listeners that is not really connected too much to the discussion here, but Fern, my guest today, was at least in New York state the first white person to donate a vinyl organ to an African-American.

And why don't you tell us about that story, if it's not too much of a detour off of our main subject today. I just find it so fascinating.

Well, Dolores was just passing out from dialysis. He had to get her to have a kidney. And when I visited her, I said, well, you could have one of mine. And I didn't think anything about it. You know, I just thought that was the thing to do.

And when I got home, I don't want you to have a kidney. And he said, I love Dolores, but why would you do that? My nurse friend said, you can't do that. It's harder on the donor than it is on the kidney.

And it might not work. And so I said to my husband, you know, James in the book of James says, if we see someone in need and we just say be warmed and filled and don't do anything about it, I know that God will take care of me and the doctors of my kidney if it's not right.

And if I'm not healthy, if I don't do it, I said, if you don't want me to.

The Ranch Is Born and the Call to Compassion

We're going to our first break. And when we come back, I want to go back in time a little bit again to how the ranch was finally born, how it finally came to fruition. And I know that the millennials listening may not have any idea of the recollection of the Bonanza program, although some of them might have seen the reruns on cable vision.

But I know that Lorne Green, who used to live in East Marion, Long Island, out in eastern Suffolk, played a part in getting this ranch off the ground. And we'll hear about that. And if anybody has any questions, again, our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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This is Chris Armisen. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the entire program is Fern Hill. She and her husband, Jerry, are the co-founders of the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch in Riverhead, Long Island, New York.

And Fern is the author of two books, Graduation to Glory and also Gifts from Glory, a collection of true stories of prayer or on prayer. And today we are discussing when tragedy is transformed into a ministry, the Timothy Hill Children's Ranch story.

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And Fern, as I was saying before the break, you were doing certain things to see if you could bring this dream of Timothy, a ranch that was a home for homeless children, into fruition. And how did Lorne Green of Bonanza hear about this and start to do, I believe, telethons for you?

When I wrote the book, it was dedicated to the ranch, so all the proceeds from that book, again, that was the seed money that started the ranch. And a gentleman, he, and he got excited about it and wanted to do a, so he happened to contact Lorne Green and Lorne did a video for the ranch, contribute to the ranch.

It's just been amazing at how God has used so many people that we had no idea.

Praise God.

And, uh, so eventually you were able to successfully raise the needed money to purchase this property.

Yeah, we purchased 106 acres and it was another thing. One of the, one of the gentlemen here in town, he said, those people are wonderful people. He said, there's just one thing wrong with them. He said, they carry this face bit just a bit too far.

He said, they actually think that they're going to get some property here on Long Island. Well, you know, property and, um, property going into foreclosure, able to get 106 acres and we had saved enough money from people who just heard about it and read graduation glory and made contributions and put in till we had $80 ,000 saved up.

He had a down payment on it in 1957 and he called us and explained who he was and explained that he had just read graduation glory, 25 copies. And, um, so he didn't even know about the second they had read.

Oh, so this was just recent. Yeah.

That was just recently because gifts from glory is a new, uh, so when did, what.

Year did the ranch actually, uh, open its doors for the very first time? Tell us about the children that are residents there, uh, how they wind up there and, uh, what kind of backgrounds and other, the backgrounds are somewhat diverse and you have some, uh, heart wrenching stories that I remember you telling, uh, years ago.

I remember one of the children, one of the boys that was a resident, his mother was driving down one of the parkways on Long Island and pulled over to a hot dog stand and told the young man to get out of the car to buy some hot dogs and gave him money to buy the hot dogs.

And then she sped away never to see that boy again.

That's right.

Uh, how heartbreaking.

And, and we've had young people who've come to us, there's been 14 different foster homes before they came to us. That must be, and we have adopted it and, uh, get, and, um, when he left, he said, Gabe, you know, uh, if things don't work out, know that you still have a family.

He said, Oh yeah, but he just knew this would work out. And he was so excited. He'd saved his money to get a ticket to go see them on the holidays. And sure enough, at the last minute, they told him he couldn't come and he was devastated, even though he thought he'd prepared.

Well, uh, how did the, the young men there? And I know that you do have now, not so long ago, uh, within the last decade opened up a girls facility. But before we get that, get to that, how did the young men typically, uh, come to be?

Yes.

Well, they come to us, a lot of them come to us through the, so they give them the opportunity to, to choose to come. Many of them come to services for different ways.

And sometimes they're removed from the home because of abuse. I understand.

That's true.

And some of them are the children of prison inmates.

That's right. Well, we do take prison inmates. Now, uh, the sheriff actually came to us and said, you know, good money for these people to, you have a program for them. He said, why can't you take some of these back here?

So now we have what we call the release temple from jail and they're young people that are 16, 17, 18 years old. Um, and they maybe have something like that too. And they go back on the streets and he said, oh, they're going to do.

Yes. I remember seeing that house when it was in the process of being remodeled.

Neighbors were so good to bring back cookies and what's happening.

Yes. I could tell it still moves you right now. Uh, Lord has touched your heart with, uh, that compassion that folks can demonstrate. And, uh, and if you could, before we go to our midway break, uh, if you could share one or two, uh, stories of children that are memorable to you that have stayed at the ranch,.

You don't have calls from young people that came here way back in the 1980s. Park city has several other of the country occasionally and donates for the ranch here.

And, uh, by the way, it might interest our listeners to know, uh, and I guess I'm going to be bragging about myself, but I was the very first recipient of the Timothy Hill children's ranch volunteer of the year award.

Do you remember that? That was back in the, uh, early nineties, if I'm not mistaken.

Okay.

Uh, quite a while ago. And, uh, it's, uh, it's just a joy to see the enthusiasm that brothers and sisters in Christ out on Long Island have, uh, had for the ranch when they discover it. And you have churches of all varying denominations and backgrounds, uh, who have sent folks out there to volunteer, uh, to preach there and to work with the kids, evangelize the kids.

Uh, that's something that's, uh, very refreshing and a joyous thing to witness.

It's amazing. We'd have a young campus minister who, and, um, and they're constantly reminded.

That.

Amen. Well, we have to go to our midway break right now, and this is the longer than normal break that we have in the middle of the show. Uh, because grace life radio 90 .1 FM in Lake city, Florida requires of us a longer break because they have the show twice a day in a prerecorded format in morning drive and in the evening.

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