Special: Sheologians & Apologia Mashup!

A bonus must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it.

You're gonna bark all day.

Are you gonna bite? Delusional yeah delusional is okay in your worldview. I'm an animal you don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly.

Okay, it doesn't really hurt. She hung up on me. Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men lauding them for their courage.

Going to all the world and make disciples not going to the world make buddies not to make brosives, right? Don't go in the world make homies.

Disciples I got a bit of a jiggle Nick.

That's a joke master when we have the real message of truth. We cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

Show Introduction and Listener Support

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So go do it today. Apology. A studios commas where you go. I'm Jeff. They call me the ninja. That's Luke the bear.

What uh, what's up?

And as you can see we are joined right now live in the studio very exciting times. We're living in actually I think we have one way to put it. Yeah, so we have a summer and joy here from she elogians.

Welcome ladies. Hello. Hello. Hello.

Are you guys also partially from this show? Yeah, but I haven't been on. I know.

I'm trying to make it sound cooler. We have two things happening here at once technically only have one special guest. She elogian. And good news too is summer now lives back in the zona.

Right during the time of the Rona your dad's on. They're throwing a fit cuz no one told him about this. Oh.

Well now he knows now, you know now, you know dad. Hey dad. I'm going on apology a radio.

It's such a thing because now we have your dad. Yeah, pastor James. Dr White is an elder at Apologia Church, and you are a member of Apologia Church. You live back here. It's just it's it's a lot happening in water.

It's like the circle of life. It's a weird thing. And I was saying while your dad's listening That it's surreal such a strange feeling. I know your dad probably feels like this that like your kids are here today.

Uh-huh, and I love them so much and Jenny I think loves me. She loves so much so bad and so bad. I felt so bad the other day because we had the rule of no touching right? And she came up like ready to hug me and I was like, I'm so sorry I know I would love to crush your little body right now, but I cannot.

But but Clementine it's so weird because I knew you when you were tiny right. When you're small when that tiny but small. Yeah, and it's you I know it's it's summer part do.

Summer. Yeah, not even just in how like they look but no so she like.

She has this little cabinet that she is so tiny. She fits in it and she like goes in there and writes poems. And so she's seven and it's already like it's already happening. It's already happening. That's already happening.

And I'm fantastic. My parents had to deal with that too. And I think they love seeing it come full circle. Full circle like how's that? There's a little justice. Uh-huh. Yeah, there's justice in that for my parents.

Current Events: Jobs, Lockdowns, and Police Overreach

So yeah, so we today are gonna do a lot of things. We are going to dissect an Article that was I think the official way to say it is on George Soros's thing. It's his.

Organization, yeah.

Yes one. Yeah, which one which one?

What is it called open democracy?

No, it is open democracy. Open the gates and let everything in a lot of dotnet. Unleash the demons. Unleash the demons. He looks like. He looks like Palpatine but older.

Like the word society in it make it kind of seem like a little like witchy. Yes, yeah like open society the society. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, it's everything about the man is nefarious. His worldview is scary scary scary so we're gonna talk about a really stupid article on that website and Somehow connected to Soros.

We're gonna actually talk about some current events stuff. I guess we should maybe good to start with this. So another 6 .6 million Americans lost their job last week according to NBC news .com. Another 6 .6 million Americans lost their job last week.

I would say there's no real way for them to gauge that. Maybe that's people who went in for their benefits. Possibly that they can't actually get because the systems are crashing. Oh, so many people are crashing and burning financially right now.

I know in a way it was almost a favor to you if your employer let you go like at the beginning right. Because then you actually had time to like File for unemployment and like have access to some of the stuff.

Yeah, because then you know the people who Got to stick around for a few weeks aren't having a hard time getting getting any. Yeah.

Yeah, and I saw. I remember the day that that Las Vegas shut down the strip just laid everybody off and went dark.

No, it was fun. There were families just like walking up and down it cuz it's like the first time you like you could take kids. You could take nothing to see still smell like marijuana. I'm sure that did but it was super eerie.

It was weird.

Last two times we stopped there on long trips to stay the night. I think I got a contact high. Uh-huh, like just because you can't walk down the street. You can't walk anymore to Vegas now without.

Just smells like weed. Yes.

All right, also there was a police Raid at a church's drive-in service issue 500 tickets to entire congregation. Comm this is a drive-in service.

They were abiding by like social distancing the six feet. This isn't about social distancing. No, no, that's not about social distancing.

No, that's about power. That's about money authority tyranny. I mean, I'm in my car. Can I drive down the road?

Yeah, if it pleases the crown, yes, may I please?

We saw Jerry. Jerry works for Costco and Jerry was given the official letter from Costco that gave permission to the crown. That he's an essential worker and he's allowed to be out and about. And I thought whoever would have thought like in America you'd be.

Saying do you have your papers. And it happened in a flash? Yeah, like it happened overnight. So fast so fast so so fast. It's crazy.

Cultural Panic, the Rona, and Kenneth Copeland

Yeah, so a lot's happening around the world right now with the Rona and I think that a good theme song. I did. I think this is a great theme song. Oh boy. You can't really do better than this theme song for the Rona.

I think you'll agree. I don't really think you guys.

I.

Have you seen the video though? Have you seen this music video? Yeah. It's the best. It's not the best. It's the worst. It's the best. No, it's totally 70s. That's it's the worst. Yes. It's funny.

You're saying this because I was. I had this playing in the car the other day cuz it's like my theme song for.

It's great. What happens when you tip over 40. It's it's hey.

Even my I was born in 78. So I wasn't like getting down to this and in 78. Yeah, but my my. But now Stella looked over at the video and he was I am Over the video and he was like, well that video looks really old.

But this was like this is like seriously like they just popped out the window.

Yeah, just like popping out like weird like warehouses and stuff in their weird pants. I was watching it. Like is this. What is happening, right? I don't understand the 70s. I don't get it. Well.

Somebody made, you know, like the like now album 99 or whatever they had the like corona now album and like that was one of the songs it was. It was epic. It was like all these songs that were like amazing for right the corona nonsense.

Our kids are gonna be able to say remember that time. Remember? Oh, yeah.

I'm totally telling my kids that maybe I got that from my dad but like anytime anything was happening my dad would be like Stop you're gonna remember this for the rest of your life and like I don't remember all of those things.

But I remember him telling me that but now I'm doing that to my kids. I'm like you guys listen, you're gonna tell your kids about the time that you were quarantined and all this stuff was happening. I know I'm in full circle.

You can't stop the circle of life. Yeah. Yeah, I keep wanting to sing that song.

So there's another there's another song.

Okay.

Before before you get that did you. Do you remember when we were in? Northern Ireland. We were going to speak at that church and there we stopped at this gas station. They had like the this is now CD at the gas station, but it was like 2008.

We were we just moved and so I found like a stack of CDs that I had and my kids were like.

What is that technology.

Like wow, I mean for us CDs were like the thing like that was how you really remember when it started coming out with like.

I.

Would like right I would write around in a circle in my driveway and on my razor scooter. But what if it when it like slid I don't know out of your pocket or like down to the ground and it just would Never ever be the same.

Yeah.

To get a new one at that point. Yeah, I actually do remember and I think I'm older than everyone on this table.

You are you are shut up.

I'm older than everyone on this table. So I do remember actually early on Jeff. I mean, there's a picture of Calvin over there. Yeah, don't feel too bad.

I remember actually playing 8-tracks.

I've never seen tapes were are like yeah, cuz that tapes were when we were little. Yeah.

And then like the CD transition happened. I actually remember two things. I remember the 8-track.

And I also remember the laser discs. Yep, like if you went into someone's house and their family had a laser dick disc movie player. It was a laser one that was like This big it was bigger than a record even like it was laser.

It was like a DVD. It was like the DVD of the record of the 80s.

Yeah, so it was a huge DVD.

Basically, yeah.

DVD player in 2001 and that was like we've arrived. Yeah. No, that was the earliest we could afford one. And it was guys you need to start giving to.

Orgs where you go and you give. You do it affects things. All right, so I wanted to show you guys this speaking of the Rona and Current events. I'm sure you guys have probably seen this but for those of you guys that haven't because you've been on quarantine.

Maybe you're also stopping yourself from watching things which might be wise in some cases Pastor Kenneth Copeland claims. He can blow virus coronavirus away.

And yeah, well just like a finger speech. We just put pastor in quotes.

Well, you know, that's what we mean an apology pastor. Yeah, this guy's a charlatan of the highest caliber and He's got he's got a master's degree in in charlatan. Re charlotte's. Charlotte's hannery.

And this one's interesting because this guy fleeces especially old. Professing Christians he fleeces them a lot and now his entire congregation is gone and I imagine it's a lot of old people and Boy, he is he's sweating bullets I think and so he has like himself and like four or five other dudes in here and I'll just let you see it.

So just enjoy the show. Real fast. Just want to say he looks like a snake and a turkey. Had a baby. He's got a little jiggle. He's out.

Thank you.

We're turning to the regular and he grows like a badger. Okay, so the best part the best part is up and coming. Now the part that gets me is, you know, even the dudes are around him who are like doing this weird chance thing.

Yeah at that part, you know for a second they were like That too. Am I gonna say that responded quickly though, like they did pretty quick is like, you know the reaction to his comments is one thing but he.

Bet you they were like.

Like he just like powerfully like blew away of you. He's like the kid that like spits on the cake.

He definitely spread COVID -19. Oh, yeah.

Blowing.

In all reality he should have he should have very wet. Hey, yeah COVID. How many people are with him like four or five? It's an empty empty stadium.

I think there's one guy in the audience. Are they like layering his or is it an echo? What's that? Are they layering because it sounds like multiple people? Yeah. Yeah, I just wondering if they like layered it to make it seem like they were more.

No, no, I think it's echo.

No, it's it might be an echo. Yeah. Yeah, cuz there's not as many Bodies to take advantage of as normal. But this is I think an even better Representation of all the theme song. We'll all hear this like when we're like 90.

We're like, that's my time. That's my beat. That was the Rona Rona 2020.

Thank you, they even worked in the the creepy People under the bridge that always dance to the yeah. Yeah. There's a video, you know, what's.

The people under the bridge the techno.

Weirdos are all dressed weird and under bridge. There's a video.

The people under bridges dancing apparently.

Does have you seen the video. It's to Mariah Carey's All over for Christmas, okay, and all I want is they're all like they're like raving but somebody oh, yeah. Like that for me is my favorite. They worked him into that.

Banter, Nostalgia, and Generational Differences

All right. So everyone who's watching right now? No, we are gonna get some seriously logical discussions. But we this is our favorite thing to do. So we're just gonna talk for a minute. Just so you guys can hang out and enjoy yourselves.

You're gonna learn things. Possibly in this moment. So before we get into. Well, I have so much. I want to show you all. Oh, all right. So, hold on before I do that. Did this morning? I have I have plan like can I just do this cuz you'll laugh at this.

This is Luke's favorite thing right now. Luke has sent me more gifts about this in the history of our friendship.

Wow, I'm excited and and he.

Loves this and I think Luke Luke Luke dreams about this. He dreams in China. He dreams in it. I'm confident.

Chinese virus, there are Dozens of you seen this by bias against Chinese Americans in this country. Your own age. Secretary Azar says he does not use this term. He says ethnicity does not cause the virus.

Why do you keep using this. Because it comes from China? It's not racist at all. No, not at all. It comes from China.

Yes.

He's doing that on purpose. He has to be. Yes, have you seen the.

Memes and stuff from it. No, I'm about to send one. Hold on. Just send me a bunch.

He knows I bet when he wakes up in the morning he goes. I bet I can make people Gif meme pay attention to just one stupid thing. I do. I'm just gonna say China weird. Yeah, just see what the people do.

A lot of lip into this one China how can I get duck lips into China? He's like hold my beer, bro. Like 12 a day like yeah for lunch. He has like three cheeseburgers. Yeah on BuzzFeed They basically they did Donald Trump's diet and so in the morning.

Yeah, it's great. Okay. It's like it was on his nose. Wow. On BuzzFeed they did you go watch this guy's just fine. They actually eat his his diet every day. It's like it's like an egg McMuffin for breakfast with a diet coke with a straw.

Yeah, and then it's like three Big Macs, but no bread. Yeah, and he has to eat it with a fork and then for dinner. Oh for a snacks. He has like Vienna Sandwich things the Vienna. They're they're calling Vienna like little they're like little.

Yeah.

No for like a morning snack, oh and then. And then he has and then he has for dinner. He has like a a burnt up steak. He only will have a steak well done burnt. Burnt up. He covers in the ketchup I think.

Which is so weird because you know that man has the money to have some good steak. He what. He goes to fancy restaurants, and I bet you they're like you are out of your mind.

Cuz he was a fancy restaurants, and he's like he probably owns for fancy.

Yeah, and they burn the steak for him, which is I mean, it's like you ruin the whole thing.

Well, you obviously has no taste buds. No. Is he like a smoker or something? Oh Just cuz like if you ate McDonald's only For all day, and then you put and all that ketchup on a steak mmm that you needed to be burned.

How is he still alive though right? How is he still alive? That's the thing because if I did that I wouldn't last another two years. Diet cokes.

It's someone would make a documentary about it right. Yeah. I mean somehow he's fine diet coke all day. That stuff is poison. Oh, it definitely is gross poison.

I remember Marcus. I'm talking to you Marcus Marcus. He was like I'm a vegetarian, and he would just all he would eat potatoes like potatoes potato chips cookies cookies. And then he would just drink diet cokes, and I was like why are you doing this?

How are you living?

I have told the story a lot. We went to our back one time after church. You were there. I think. Maybe. And he literally ordered. Every type of potato on the menu, and that's what he. There's five different types of potatoes like baked potato fries.

You know what he got married. Laura takes care of him. Fish and chips chips more chips, that's the power of women right there. We keep the men's going. Cannot eat potatoes. All the words, but where's the article we.

I know the question.

Yeah, we're gonna talk about not like that.

All right, so one of my new favorite things that happened yesterday. It's it you listen you got to see you have got to see the recent dividing lines with dr. White's where he is reviewing the flowers Wilson interview.

It is just such an amazing just interesting. All kinds of things that are interesting that your dad gets into and sort of you know. Examines and unpacks and applies the Word of God to but this one in particular is just I'm fascinating.

It's like watching a train wreck just how these guys bad. It's really really bad, but your dad. I was driving home yesterday. I have it playing next to me, and so I'm listening to the DL on the way home.

And then this happens, and I almost wrote drove the car off the road. I had to pull over just to text the guys on our elder thread just to say Here's a link everybody listen poop.

What's it gonna be. You'll see right now, okay, and you know what one of their you know what their primary religious duties and accomplishments. Duties as the elect was do the mannequin worldview producing excrement.

What?

Yeah.

So they had very strict dietary laws, and there were certain aspects of food. That by eating certain things they were purifying the world. By going poopo. And this is paralleled with the elect.

He can't take it. He's just he doesn't know what he doesn't know what to do with his hands. I.

Have to watch this now. I didn't make it up.

So.

So cuz he has to talk about it. But how do you talk about it without talking about it and not laughing about it, and it's um.

I feel like I really just want to hear I really just want to hear the part.

I.

Got past it.

Yeah.

So well you guys if you watch that video you'll see yeah, you'll see the moment where. Yes, dr.

James White lost it. I lost the whole thing there, but it's in the last episode of the dividing line. Flowers.

Whatever.

Whatever.

Elders Wells Ken Wilson foul flowers, and it's elder something examining right over my dad's deal. Titles are like Puritan titles. Yeah, I know. It's like you need the clickable. Yeah.

Quick. You have to look for the date on those not the title exactly and.

Apologetics Competition and the Sword Skit

So I wanted to play this for anybody didn't see. I don't know your dad was. Had such a good time with this and he was so excited to do this. So there was an apologetics apologists competition. Over 200 Apologists were entered and there was this voting situation a lot.

It's what you do during quarantine. You do stuff like this, right? And whittled it all the way down and. There I think the final results were Ravi was first your dad was second. I was third, which is weird.

I'm like, you're not even on the Twitters. I know I'm not even on Twitter. Yeah, but yeah. So anyway, so your dad was so excited to do this video. I know he was so excited.

It's the best I was excited to do. Guys really nailed it. Yes.

So unless you guys see the video and see yeah, this was what we did because we were going head-to-head against each other. Which doesn't make any sense. No, I felt like I didn't want to say it on the time.

But I was like is everybody lost their minds. This is I'm not even in the same category or league.

You can't even it's it makes literally no sound when she illusions went up against the dividing line. Yeah.

Yeah, like we were like it's been a great game. It's been.

So happy to take second place to that. Yeah. Alright, it's cool. Yeah, it's all yours.

Yeah, and then Ravi of course he ended up getting over the top in the last few hours, yeah, dr. Brown. Yes, a lot. No, dr. Brown very disappointed. I was dirty.

He's like my second. He's like a grandpa to me. So no comment. Dr. Brown. No comment. Yeah. Well.

Here's here's here's the video we did just for fun. These are the things you do during quarantine.

Check, huh? What?

But you taught me.

Yeah, well I ain't dead yet. It's true. It won't be long. Question is do you have a chin? Oh three debates.

174 no debates.

If I hit your face, I win if I stick it in your beard I.

Win.

Really?

All right, you win ninja. I told you I told you. Really James? You're taking this too seriously. So there was a little behind that a little behind the scenes. On that is your dad actually brought that sword that day 100 and he brought the sword brought the gun.

He was so excited to that section. So I. Yeah, but this is this is the one thing and I didn't say this. I didn't say this to James. I didn't say it. Oh, no, I was trying to be very just you know, like like humble like sure.

Okay, so He hands me the sword. I open it up now. I mind you I've been doing martial arts my whole life, right? I've taught shin Kendo and sword fighting with real swords like test, you know, all that stuff.

Oh, no, and your dad I pull it out and your dad goes now be really careful with that. It's sharp I I just I was like. That'd be like me walking into his office and like opening up some ancient record or some book with some like Something only he could decipher and going be careful that be careful.

Make sure you do this correctly. I mean he'd be like don't say that to me. I've been reading this before you were born.

Did he get that sort out of his knife drawer?

Your dad loves knives. He loves my love. I always have a new knife. Oh.

That's like his gift here loves you here. I love you. Use a knife. I mean, I don't mind. I'm not complaining. I love it.

As a definite sign of his love affection is if he's gifted you.

The first time he gave him to us he was like, oh I was looking at my knife drawer today. And then he starts talking. I was like, whoa timeout. Yeah. Did you say your knife drawer? He's like, oh, yeah I have a knife sure.

Uh-huh. And so he just it's not kitchen knife. No, it's just before he leaves the house. As as one would like where's some jewelry? He's like, oh which knife am I bringing today?

Matches my outfit. Where did where does like just logically speaking? Where is a knife drawer?

Above his underwear. I am not allowed divulge all the many places you can find a weaponry in my dad's house. But there are many places you could find both necklaces bracelets knives and.

Assorted artillery. Oh, wow. It's like it's like above the it's above a family photo. It's like a gun back there like no.

I'm not saying any of that. Oh, and I'm not. Had like candy drawers. Well, my dad has a chocolate drawer. Yeah.

Family Habits, Food, and the Polygamy Palace

So did it. What did we talk about when we were in Salt Lake City. We were doing the Mormon Easter. No, no, whatever time we were there not Easter. It was last Round winner, whatever that one is called.

Yeah.

And the winter time.

Oh.

My brain is not working right now, okay, so we were there. We're all staying in a polygamy palace.

What you say. Nothing nothing. Oh.

What we're all staying in polygamy palace. Yes, which if you guys don't know what that is, I've heard that there's plenty of homes Around bout the Salt Lake area that you're like, why are there actually three houses in one three houses in one?

That's right. Why are there three kitchens in this house? And why are there 29 beds? Yeah. Yeah. Y 'all ain't watching sister. Why that's right. That's right. Interesting. This is a very large house. It's magnificent.

There's a lot of children that were here and possibly more than one wife. But so we have all the food everyone's brought in for like us to eat during that week. And I don't know how many times I saw your dad.

He was eating Crackers with butter like everyone all this all this food to eat and he's eating crackers and butter. Every night that was I was like a dear you eating anything else. It was like crackers and butter and yeah, whatever.

Strange requests like his little cashews or something his little workout bars. Oh, yeah.

Spurs are delicious. I mean quest bars. Yeah bread and crackers.

So my whole life before I went to bed at night I would go out to the kitchen to say goodnight to my dad because he was standing in the kitchen putting butter on saltine. Yeah, that's what he does. That's what he was doing every night.

How was he still alive? How I mean.

You know, it's it's it's that generation. There was something about Marjory generation. Well, I don't know if they've got something in their DNA that like resists diet coke at obscene levels.

Like a whole buckets of butter a day or for like the first 30 years of their life. They actually ate much better quality. That's probably what it is. Now. It's so now it's like.

He also every day had white and delight some taco time. Yes every day.

Well when you're when you're around taco time, he can't resist. Oh, I know like you can't expect that.

I got to the point where I was. Like, did you have you know, he's like, yeah.

But also like just so you know while he's eating the taco time and the butter and the crackers. He's calculating exactly how many kilometers he has to ride to like balance it out. So unlike the rest of us like don't care.

Yeah, he's eating better in saltines every night. But also he knows exactly how many kilometers are gonna like pay for that.

I am confident that in heaven one day in the rewards section of heaven.

Your dad's your dad like a knife drawer. The rewards.

Yeah, your dad like the Lord is gonna be like to your dad and here is here is all your labor all your fighting all. You're putting up with stuff. Here's this amazing little house and then literally next door is gonna be a taco.

That's his kitchen is a taco time kitchen. They're all shades of turquoise light.

Medium turquoise. You think the Lord's gonna add an entire wardrobe full to G sweaters. It'll be Coogee sweaters and they're all ones that Jesus picked out. I know and he really does right that these are the best for you.

He'll have a Coogee bed.

Questions, Injuries, Embarrassment, and Favorite Places

Okay, so question time, okay. All right question time. Here we go. I'm not sure. It doesn't matter which direction just spit it out. Okay. Okay. So here we go. Don't do that not like Copeland. Don't do that seriously don't like ever.

Don't do that your own personal opinion like if you could say to somebody in the world, uh-huh, don't do that. Seriously, don't do that ever like things that annoy you. Oh, don't do that. Don't do it.

Kenneth Copeland did in that video.

Don't refer to a single psalm as psalms. Jerry Roberts 31. It's psalm 31 Jeremiah Roberts. It's not psalms the 31 or revelations.

Revelation revelations chapter 10 when I see solid pastors say everyone turn to revelations 10 I'm like.

Yeah, quit it. Don't do that. Like ever don't do that. Like ever. Stop one of mine for sure. Joy.

I don't know if I have one. Yes. No, I talked about it. I do have one. Yeah. Well, so you can't say what am I? Well, I could watch you. I just forget a lot of things that I think I think for sure. I'll remember that.

No, I don't but I mean I can tell you in the Sheila's audience knows this but don't ever buy. Little tiny water bottles tiny water. They're the stupidest thing. Why it's so rude.