March 6, 2017 Show with Stanley D. Gale on “Warfare Witness: Contending with Spiritual Opposition in Everyday Evangelism”

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Introduction to Warfare Witness and the Guest’s Ministry

I'm delighted to have back on the program someone who is really a blessing on Iron Sharpens Iron previously. We're going to be discussing, God willing, two of his books today. During the first hour we are discussing Warfare Witness, Contending with Spiritual Opposition and Everyday Evangelism, and then if we have enough time we are going to shift gears and discuss a second book of his during the second hour, A Vine-Ripened Life, Contending with Spiritual Opposition and Everyday Evangelism, and it is our honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron, our guest today, who has been such a blessing to us, Dr.

Stanley D. Gale. Well, Chris, thank you very much. It is a great time, last time. First of all, let us hear.

Something about, I believe if I'm not mistaken, are you still with Reformed Presbyterian Church in Westchester, PA?

Actually, I have shifted gears and I am not any longer. Right, that's what I.

Recall, there was some kind of a transition, that's why. And are you.

Pastoring another church here in Pennsylvania? Yes. How can I import this into churches and to help people to live in and live out the gospel? So I've been working, I've been lining up a Finding Forgiveness seminar, a bunch of.

Questions related. Praise God, and this would be this teaching ministry, is this has something to do with community, or should I say houses of prayer,.

Community houses of prayer? Yes, in fact. Well, let me introduce you to my co-host.

In studio, Reverend Buzz Taylor. It's good to have you back in the studio, Buzz. Good to talk with you. And by the way, I want to apologize, I did make an error on the subtitle of the second book that we are discussing today.

The correct subtitle of A Vine-Ripened Life is Spiritual Fruitfulness Through Abiding in Christ. So I apologize for actually just repeating the same subtitle as our current topic, Warfare Witness Contending with Spiritual Opposition in Everyday Evangelism.

And let me read for our listeners a description of this first book we are discussing. Spiritual warfare is a popular topic with no shortage of books addressing the subject. However, rather than this important issue being developed from a biblically founded view, it is often drawn from extra-biblical ideas with God's Word brought to the surface of human notions.

In Warfare Witness, Stanley Gale sets out to rectify this trend. Spiritual warfare forms the backdrop against which we understand life, the work of Christ, and our work of ministry in the world in which we live.

God has not left us without instruction on the subject of the spiritual opposition we face and how we are to wage spiritual warfare. In fact, the Bible is full of the counsel of God to equip us for the task.

Warfare Witness fixes our attention firmly upon God's Word, enabling us to understand the opposition believers face in reaching others for Christ. Jesus has won the war as only he could, but there remains a battle taking place, one that involves us.

In our spiritual growth we face a foe, and it is of great importance that we know what this foe looks like and how to deal with it. The Lord has not left us to fight this battle alone, and when we look to his Word we will find it an immense source of strength, guidance, and preparation for the fight.

So I'm sure that that is igniting some interest in our listeners because that is a very riveting description of this book that we all in the body of Christ need to know the contents thereof. But first of all, if you could explain the title, Warfare Witness, it is the witness aspect of the title that I'm curious about when you connect it with the word warfare.

It's kind of an interesting combination of words. Yeah, I guess that.

Really... Well I'd like to also to further whet the appetite of our listeners.

Regarding this first book that we are discussing. I'd like to read a couple of endorsements. The first is from one of my favorite preachers and teachers I've ever heard, who I've also met in person and had lengthy conversations with but have yet to interview.

I'm hoping that the Lord opens up a door for Dr. Sinclair Ferguson to be on the program. He seems to be not very comfortable doing radio interviews, but he is certainly an amazingly gifted communicator, preacher, teacher, and author, and he has written about your book.

We are at war, engaged in a mighty spiritual battle. But this war, as Stanley Gale reminds us, is being fought in the homeland. We need someone with a concern for the church and a pastor's love for it to speak to us about these things.

This is exactly what Stanley Gale does. In addition to giving helpful counsel on personal witness, the life of fellowship, prayer, and other vital themes, he sounds the revelry in our ears to awaken us to serve with renewed vigor in the King's army.

And that is Dr. Sinclair B. Ferguson, associate preacher at St. Peter's Free Church in Dundee, Scotland, and also someone who I have had on this program in the past, Philip G. Ryken, president of Wheaton College.

He says, warfare witness offers sane biblical guidance for Christian engagement in the invisible war that rages between God and the devil. In contrast to many misguided strategies for spiritual warfare, one thinks of spiritual mapping, words of knowledge, binding demons.

Stan Gale shows what the Bible really teaches about the attacks of Satan and defending against them. His approach to spiritual warfare is centered on Christ, rooted in church history, and focused on the ordinary means of grace that the Holy Spirit uses to save people in Christ, prayer, and the ministry of God's Word.

As I said, that was Dr. Philip G. Ryken of Wheaton College, and obviously Dr. Ryken has quite the task ahead of him as he continues to be president of a college that has got some of its own inner battles that most of us who are Reformed and conservative evangelicals are aware of, but so I'm sure that this has whet the appetites further of our listeners.

Well, I'm going to give our listeners the email address that they can use to join us on the air with their own question at chrisarnson at gmail .com. Chris Arnson at gmail .com. Please give us your first name, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA.

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Chris Arnson at gmail .com. Well, what exactly are you discussing in the portion of your book under the theme.

Boldness in Evangelism and Confidence in Christ’s Sheep

Commissioned for service? We have a listener from Charlestown, New.

Hampshire, Jerry, who asks, it seems that one of Satan's common attacks in regards to evangelism is to entice us to crippling fear so that we either don't proclaim the gospel or do so in such a mealy-mouthed manner that, say that ten times fast, mealy-mouthed manner that is unbefitting of the gospel and the lordship of Christ.

It is striking that right after Paul explained spiritual warfare and the armor of God in Ephesians 6, he twice requests that the Ephesian believers pray for him regarding boldness and evangelism in 6 19 through 20.

What words could you give to encourage believers to reject Satan's attack that drive us to fear and instead to speak the gospel in love and unflinching boldness? Well, that was a very well thought-out question by Jerry.

In Charlestown, New Hampshire. It is content knowing all the enemy, and this is what the enemy would have us, he would make us think. You know, one of the.

Verses in Scripture that most emboldens me when sometimes you have a fear that you're wasting your time or that you just fear that you're going to receive some kind of negative consequence by being truthful about the gospel to people.

Typically in our lives, sadly, we are so cowardly and selfish that that may even be that we don't want our friends to give us a look that we are insane. You know, the littlest things in life can discourage us, such as that when people actually have been tortured and executed for their faith and still are in certain parts of the world.

But one of the things that continues to embolden me is from John chapter 10 27 through 30 when Jesus says my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give eternal life to them and they will never perish and no one will snatch them out of my hand my father who has given them to me is greater than all and no one is able to snatch them out of the father's hand and I am I and the father are one.

The fact that no matter how inarticulate we are, no matter how much we may stumble and fumble and mumble, the Lord is going to bless the faithful proclamation of his word and his elects will come forth at some point.

They might not instantly come forth when we are speaking, but the the word of God does not return void and and the word will draw his sheep unto Christ at some point when he determines them to come. Is that not something that is a precious truth to to really focus upon whenever we are intimidated by speaking to people about the gospel?

It.

Points us to again not to ourselves. Sometimes I think that the problem.

Isn't so much under-competence as it is over-competence because you know we live in a very well let's say theologically we live in a very post-Calvinist age and I think we have a lot of the same error as as the world you know that thinks that if man isn't involved in it it's not going to be done correctly you know very humanistic approach to things.

And because man is the measure of all things and and it's also the human pride that I have to do so much of the work to make sure that it's done right. I have to clarify the gospel because the scriptures you know need my help you know and and the Apostle Paul said I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

And you know if there was anybody who could have been smart in the gospel it was Paul and he deliberately set those things aside so that the power would be of God. By the way that was Reverend Buzz Taylor in case.

You didn't know. Some people say that we sound a lot alike on the air. I'm sorry would you say brother. I didn't hear you. I said you fooled me. I didn't. I couldn't.

Distinguish you. But it is interesting when you look at you thinking you know.

And even even if we are speaking to a crowd of thousands of people and none of those people ever come to Christ because there is not one member of his elect in that crowd that preaching the gospel proclaiming it is never a waste of time because it still brings praise honor and glory to him.

Even the fact that that those who hear it are worthy of further condemnation for rejecting the truth that has been more clearly proclaimed to them even that brings glory to God does.

It not. It does in fact the same thing is that as by the way Jerry in Charlestown.

New Hampshire. You have won a free copy of the book that we are discussing warfare witness contending with spiritual opposition and everyday evangelism. Compliments of our friends at Christian focus publications.

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We also have Carmine in Hernando Florida who has a question that isn't exactly on the topic but I think it in some way applies to the topic. It's not completely foreign to it. And he asked. And then I'm this is one of those questions that does not have just a yes or no answer.

There needs to be further I think explanation he says. Can a person be saved and born again and not know it. A scripture reference will help. Thank you for your answer. And obviously a person has to know something about the gospel and all that kind of thing before he could have not only any confidence that he's saved but the others who know that person can have confidence that he or she is saved.

But aren't there people out there that are so tortured over their sin that they.

Doubt whether or not they are saved. Amen. Man without but then regeneration and so we can know born again the ground now says hey there. Yes. And at the same time.

The question can a person be saved and born again and not know it that can be answered in the same way. Yes but for a wrong reason. I'm sure that you would agree with me that one of the most what's the word I'm looking for one of them that one of the saddest exchanges on the gospel I've ever heard.

And when I say saddest it's because it comes from someone who is a hero a Christian hero to multitudes countless multitudes who depend on this person for truth. And it is a conversation that Billy Graham had with Robert Shuler.

And basically Billy Graham said that there are people of other religions who are Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and members of other religions who are saved and they just don't know it. They they are saved because they are are believing in God and demonstrating that and following him to the best of their ability.

But they just haven't been properly taught about the Trinity and Jesus. And of course I'm paraphrasing I'm not quoting Billy Graham directly but he was he was. I am not exaggerating what he was saying.

He was certainly saying that there are people who are called from among the Muslims and other religions who are saved. But he did not make it clear that they were called out of those things. If you follow what I'm saying this was Billy Graham saying this to Shuler.

You can see this on YouTube. Okay. And and hear it. And Robert Shuler was was so delighted to hear Billy Graham say this because he had been believing that for years he said in the clip. In fact after the program sometime I'll send you the YouTube link.

But it's it's unless somebody took it down. But but that would be a wrong reason to say yes to that question. I mean a person who does not even know the gospel and does not even know the name of Christ or does not follow Christ and trust in his finished work on Calvary.

That person should not be viewed as someone who could be born again or saved. Am I right. I would say.

That's right yes in fact that one of the great illustrations I'm talking about and Jesus know my sheep I call them by name. In fact we're going to go to a.

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Study because everyone needs a pastor. Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. If you just tuned us in. Here on iron sharpens iron radio our guest is dr. Stanley D Gale and we are discussing his book for the first hour at least.

Warfare witness contending with spiritual opposition in everyday evangelism. If you'd like to join us on the air our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. And we may be if we have time transferring over to the topic of dr. Gale's other book a vine ripened life spiritual fruitfulness through abiding in Christ in the second hour.

I just wanted to play just because some people might be too astonished to believe what I mentioned earlier about Billy Graham. But here is the clip I was speaking of. And of course this is not what I wanted to play.

That was not what I wanted to play but here we go. This is the clip of Billy Graham having a conversation with with Robert Shuler. Tell me what do you.

Think is the future of Christianity. I think everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ whether they're conscious of it or not they're members of the body of Christ. And that's what God is doing today.

He's calling people out of the world for his name. Whether they come from the Muslim world or the Buddhist world or the Christian world or the non-believing world they are members of the body of Christ because they've been called by God.

They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their heart that they need something that they don't have and they turn to the only light that they have. And I think that they are saved and they're going to be with us in heaven.

It's fantastic. I'm so thrilled to hear you say that there's a wideness in God's.

Mercy there is definitely so there's proof in the pudding there and Billy Graham sounded there. And I don't want to disparage my primitive Baptist friends but there are a great number of primitive Baptists who are hyper Calvinists who actually have the same exact explanation they so distort election and remove man's responsibility from it that they would say that there are going to be many welcome into heaven that never converted to Christianity because they were of the elect and just never came to understand why they were saved on this earth that they will find it out later in heaven.

But this is totally absurd and an unbiblical concept isn't it. We have Joe.

The Thief, the Pharisees, and Spiritual Warfare in John 10

In Slovenia. Who asks. Please ask dr. Gail to address John 10 verse 10. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. This verse is commonly used today in teaching on spiritual warfare identifying the thief as Satan.

However it seems more appropriate within the context of John chapters 9 and 10 to understand that Jesus is referring to the Pharisees and other human false teachers who lead people away from God and his truth as the thief.

How does dr. Gail understand this verse in context as it would relate to spiritual warfare. Thank you for sharpening us today in.

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Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. We have a listener CJ from Lindenhurst Long Island New York who wants to know do you believe that a true Christian could be drawn away into apostasy. Never to we never to return to.

Biblical orthodoxy. Well CJ you have also won a free copy of our book the.

Book that we are discussing today by dr. Gail warfare witness. So thank you very much for your insightful question. If you could describe in a little bit more detail this present evil age and what you say on that in that section.

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Sure asking.

About the present evil age after the Genesis. Cover their self. Exactly. But we see anger and all that and anger I think it's Genesis 4 7 God and his decaying before Cain move of killing his brother and he says if you do right if you if you do right will not your accountants be lifted up but if you do not do right.

Crouching at are delivering those help amen. I don't know about you dr. Gail but.

I think that we should keep on the same subject in the second hour and we'll schedule you for another interview on the vine ripened life on another date because I think there's so much to unpack here.

Okay. Yeah if that's all right with you sure we'll remain with the topic of warfare witness for the second hour but we are going to a midway break now. If you'd like to join us on the air our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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