God and Mental Health

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What's going on?

We got two Drews, one with hair, one without. That's right. So you guys figure out which is the older one. One. What?

I said one good looking and one not.

The one with hair is good looking. Got it. All right.

I didn't say that. We will let the audience decide.

So we're going to talk about God and mental health. And we've been getting some, some, this was, this cracked me up. Fatima says, hi everyone. I've been waiting since last night. Ha ha ha. That for the folks who don't know, who are looking in the chat, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

This person is from the Philippines. So yes, it was last night because when we posted it, you know, it was night, you know, it is 8 a .m. there in Manila. So, so yeah. And others have been saying, Melissa is saying that she's been waiting at least that long.

So we're glad, uh, we'll, we'll get to some of, uh, those things. Um, and so let's see. Where is it? Uh, Jolene says, ha ha, I've scheduled it on my calendar since the strange fire conference. Well, that was several weeks ago now.

Well, actually depends if you, the, if she's speaking of the Manila conference or a hall there in the Philippines, cause there were one week apart. So, um, and so with this, I want to, before we get into, we're going to do an in new section, things like that.

Uh, but before we do, I just want to say, I do recognize that for some people this topic and it is going to be very emotional. There's a lot of people that I've noticed over the last few weeks ever since MacArthur's comment, um, that this is a very, very emotional topic for many.

And so because of that, I just want to give kind of a warning and say like, all right, we, we're going to try to address this from scripture, what scripture says. And I, I'm just want to be cautious because I just know that for many, this becomes something that, um, they can react to what they think we're saying rather than what we're actually saying.

And so I want to ask you as a listener to, be careful in this episode to hear what we're actually saying and don't assume what we're saying. Don't think that you know what we're saying. Um, and jump right to a conclusion.

I want you to hear us out. Uh, and you may disagree with us. I don't mind that disagreeing with us is fine. Um, but attributing to us something we don't believe is not. I unfortunately had to block someone on Facebook because the person, uh, ever since the comments about MacArthur has been trying to convince me how wrong I am on this issue by addressing something that is not my position, nor MacArthur's.

Okay. I said this back then, but MacArthur did not say that the experience of PSTD or ADD or these others do not exist. He explained it, the experience, but he didn't agree with the label and the treatment.

And so he was addressing it saying that the Bible has an answer on how to deal with these experiences. And so the person just kept trying to convince me that MacArthur says that there is no such thing that like no one has that experience.

And he kept arguing that, well, that's like telling Justin Peters. He doesn't have cerebral palsy, two completely different things, right? Cerebral palsy is a physical thing. Uh, it's not an emotional thing.

And so it's also something that you're, you're not going to address the same way. You're not addressing the cerebral palsy by saying, here's some drugs. We're just going to give you a label. And that way you don't have to try to work on it.

Right. So it's very different. So I ended up saying to this person, I tried being as polite as I could, but I'm like, look, I'm ignoring you. I just stopped posting. I'm not reading any of it. I'm not, you know, because it's just, you keep blowing up my, my inbox and I'm, you're not listening to me.

And so he wouldn't stop. And I pleaded with her. I said, look, I'm going to have to block you just so that I stopped seeing this blown up because you're, you're not getting the message. You're not engaging with what I said and you won't stop.

And so I told him another time, I'm like, look on your next comment, if it's, I love you, but on your next comment on this subject, I'm blocking you. And within seconds, you know, boom. I was like, ah, I didn't want to have to, but I did.

Um, and so I don't want to do that with anyone. Um, I want to, I, I recognize this could be emotional. And so we need to be a thinking people, not a feeling people as Christians. And this is half the problem with our culture.

They don't think anymore. They feel, which actually gets us to some of the in the news segment, because there were some funny things. I wish I had gotten the video of some of the things. I think last week we talked about the, the, the person who was thought it was unfair that they were hungry on a hunger strike.

So, you know, yeah, I mean, you know, the, the, the liberals, it's hard to, you know, if you're trying to do parody, it's hard to do parody with these liberals. Like, you know, because they just do things like, I'm going to stick my hand in a bucket of concrete as protest.

Yeah. Okay. Well, I, I love this one. Uh, there was some actress or something that I saw and she's being interviewed, you know, and someone's talking to her. And ever since the, it was announced that Roe versus Wade was going to be overturned.

She has been in protesting. And I mean, they were just like, she's on this and saying she's been doing this protest for over two years, like two and a half years. Uh, and she's been protesting the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

She is going to stick it to those conservatives. And the person's like, you go girl. What is she doing to protest the fact that your abortion is not federally legal anymore? She's been celibate. Oh, Oh my, you're really going to stick it to the conservatives.

I say go girl too.

Keep it up. Good job. I said, I, I encourage us. This is, Hey,.

Let's do a campaign right now. All the people who are in favor of abortion go celibacy to show us how strong your protest is. Be celibate. In fact, I'll be, we'll do it even more. How about you be celibate with anybody other than your spouse?

I would love to see that sort of thing. So I encourage this. Uh, I think that we should all encourage, uh, the protest for, uh, those who want to protest the overturning of Roe versus Wade by going celibate.

In fact, I think what they should do is since they haven't been allowing different crisis pregnancy centers, like the one I used to work for to go into the public schools, to teach about the dangers of STDs, that's actually how we would teach the abstinence was to talk about STDs.

You couldn't just go in and teach abstinence, but you could go in and teach STDs and explain that. Well, the one way to prevent STDs is abstinence, uh, save it till marriage. So now that it's a protest, I think that like all of, you know, we should get a lot of Christians going into the public schools, you know, get the crisis for any says going to the public school saying we would like to teach about celibacy as a protest against the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

That's a genius.

I think it would be great. Like we should encourage the liberals to continue to teach our values to show us that they're going to stick it to us.

Yep. Yeah. I just, I, I gotta say, uh, because Melissa puts a comment up here. She says, I wish all liberals would stay celibate, you know, and here, here's the thing, right? Here's the thing. Which group is it that's killing off their children in droves, right?

It's the liberals. And now who are the ones that are protesting in the form of celibacy to not have intercourse so they could not get pregnant. It's the liberals. I say, this is a clear testimony to post-millennialism and the Christians taking over the world.

Okay. Clearly.

Yeah.

And you don't quite see the numbers of Muslim births and post-millennial births just saying. So I do like the idea of having a campaign of celibacy to protest the overturning of Roe versus Wade. I think that we should do that.

Uh, I actually had an idea for Trump. You know, it would be interesting. You've been following this stuff with the Trump, um, debates with Biden and, you know, Biden, Biden, the tough guy, Biden, you know, Hey, you, you lost two debates to me already.

He hasn't debated anyone since then. I hear you're free on Wednesday. Bring it on. Um, now, first off folks, if you'd go and look, it was only like a, like three minutes, maybe of a clip there and they had like 10 cuts.

So he couldn't even do like, you know, five seconds without them going, okay, cut. We got to do this again. Right. But first off, so he's saying he won two debates. I guess he's admitting that he lost one of the three debates against Trump because he said he only won two of them.

Oops. And so the other thing that I thought interesting was it is he's like, he hasn't debated since then. Uh, yeah, because he hasn't been running for president since then.

What would he be debating for? Yeah. I mean, so I,.

You just got to sit there and like, um, who wrote, you know that Joe didn't write the script, but who wrote this for Joe unless he just got it wrong and they got tired of doing takes and they were just like, okay, yeah, let's just go with it.

I don't know. I can tell you who didn't write it. Obama's speech writers, you know, it's, it's so crazy because Joe obviously was vice president to Obama. But when you see just the caliber of speeches,.

Uh, no, no, no, you're wrong there. You're wrong there. Yeah. Because Biden announced in a, in a speech that he was vice president during COVID and what Obama had done, uh, to stop COVID. The only thing we can figure is he must've been vice president to Donald J. Trump.

I don't know. I don't know what to make of that.

Yeah. That guy is right now. I mean, honestly, I mean, I know James White has said it before numerous times. I believe, I think we've probably said it on here too, but it is elderly abuse to just keep Joe Biden up there the way he is.

You know, you really get to see that when you look at like a Donald Trump who could be off the cuff and smart and witty, and he's only a few years younger. It really showed like, I, I think a debate against Joe Biden and Trump will actually show that age.

It is kind of interesting. Cause if you've noticed Joe Biden hasn't been able to get through speeches without yelling, it's like what keeps him going. So I think whatever I do believe they're giving them some sort of drugs.

Like I don't believe that cocaine found in the white house was his son's. I think that's what they're giving him to stay awake for his two meetings today and debates and things. But that's how, you know,.

That's how Sherlock Holmes was able to stay up all night and solve crimes. Cocaine.

There we go. But you know, it is something where, you know, Trump in that first debate, if you think about that first debate they did, Trump, I think was trying to get under Joe Biden's skin, thinking that Joe Biden was going to lose it.

And what ended up happening was, I mean, Donald Trump just looked like a jerk. You know, he really did. He came off and I get what he was trying to do. If that's what he was trying to do. But because Biden kept his cool, but he kind of lost it.

But the moderator was kind of helping out. So Trump was debating to be able, but, but he came off looking like a jerk. Now I think that it may be the reverse this time, because if Biden has to yell at people to keep himself awake and alert to keep going, if Trump, and I know this is, this is hard, but if Trump could just keep his cool.

Cool. Yeah.

Like, look, just let Joe Biden unravel himself. All you gotta do is get them on stage, you know, and he'll, he'll do it. But here's what I think since Biden's arguing, he won't debate if RFK is there, what would happen if, if Trump just turns around and says, I'm going to bait debate RFK forget Biden.

And the two of them just talk about Biden's policies.

You know, I, I, I've always thought it would be an interesting conversation between RFK jr. And Donald Trump. Yeah. Very much. So, because I mean, RFK, you know, RFK, if he wasn't a liberal and if he didn't have the stances on abortion that he does, right.

You know, he might be a good candidate, but you know, he's too far left to be able to vote for. I mean, and, and honestly, I think Trump is too far left to, to be able to vote as well. But I think the conversation that they could have, I think, I think that might be a good cause RFK is a very intelligent guy.

If you listen to him talk, this guy does his research like no other.

Exactly. Yeah. And I think, I think the, the, the interesting thing, if you had a three way debate, okay. The interesting thing would be that many conservatives would end up agreeing with RFK when it comes to vaccines.

And he would probably bring that up because it's, it's something that separates him from the other two. What, what Trump would really should do. And he's just, it's, I don't think it's in his nature to do this, but if he was to get into a debate like that and just admit he was wrong, he didn't have all the information about the vaccines.

I don't think he can admit he's wrong. That's, that's one of the issues. Okay. I just don't think he has it in him, but if he could admit he was wrong and he didn't have enough information, I think he would do better in a debate with, with RFK or, or even Joe Biden.

But I don't think either Biden or, or Trump can admit that they're wrong. Right. And, and that's a problem. And so RFK, I think would win on the, on the vaccine issue. So it, but it would, it would be interesting if you have RFK and, and Trump both debating each other against Biden's policies and Biden not be there.

Like that would be the thing to get. I mean, you'd have so many Democrats that would just vote for RFK. Now I say that, but Dan Bongino actually had an interesting thought that since Biden won't resign, the thought is that they're trying to get rid of Biden.

They know he's failing, but he won't quit. So what do they do? And some are arguing that they put up an early debate so that they could show how bad he is and say, look, your numbers are now really tanking and replace them.

And he had an interesting thing, the thought of replacing with RFK. At the convention, because they clearly don't want to seem to want to have Kamala Harris, because if they wanted her, they would have just said, Hey, look, he's not competent to stand in trial.

Then he's not competent to be president. And they would just, you know,.

Replace him.

Yeah. I forgot what that's called, but, uh,.

25th amendment, 26th, 26th. Yeah. Um,.

Yeah. Where if a president's not competent and, uh,.

That's what they, they ruled. So, so, uh, with that, let's just, uh, see years worthwhile says, good morning from the other side of the globe, pastor Andrew. Well, it is good to see you Lorraine. And let's see, what else do we have?

Oh, yeah. Fatima said this, um, and this gets us into our topic of mental health, uh, says it's an emotional topic, but scripture puts me in the right place before God. Thank you for the reminder, no assumptions, listen and pray.

And that's what we're going to ask you guys to do now. This was, I think, Drew, this was an idea you had after talking about MacArthur's comments. Um, but you really want to talk about it in a, in a broader sense.

Right. And so, and, uh, Aaron Brewster is going to come in later on tonight, after he's done teaching. Um, and so, and, you know, just to, you know, for Drew, I know that Aaron's kind of far from you, but you know, he's, he's going to be, you know, just coming off of teaching people how to punch and kick and, you know, just, just keep that in mind if you disagree with him.

No, but, uh, he, he ends up, he teaches karate on, on, uh, Thursday nights. And so he can, he can get in, but, but late. So he's going to join us in a bit. So, uh, and I, I should say, just as a programming note, uh, StreamYard or I shouldn't say StreamYard, Facebook has taken away the ability to have us have this in different groups.

And so the groups that we usually post it in, uh, we can't do it. So I know that people are not able to watch us on Facebook groups as they used to. So here's my encouragement, everyone. If you could take this stream wherever you're watching it, whether it's on ApologizeLive .com or, you know, Twitter or Facebook or YouTube, can you share it on other social medias right now?

Uh, since Facebook is being, well, that's the tyrants they are. So we cannot, we can't share it in groups, but you directly,.

But you can.

And so if you guys could do us the favor and go out to wherever you are right now and share this so that we can, uh, just that way, folks will know about it. Uh, because it's kind of hard for me to go sharing it while I'm doing it and trying to find it is a bigger issue.

So, um, so let's get into topic and Drew, I'm going to, I want to let, I mean, I'm going to let you start it off because well, it was your topic. So, um, why don't you take it away and then we're going to have some discussion.

Yeah. So obviously, you know, we have, uh, John MacArthur's comments, which really caused a, a stir among people, especially on Twitter where everyone can be civil.

Nothing ever creates a stir on Twitter. What do you mean? That is the most civil place in the world.

It is the most Holy place in the world outside of the church. Right. Yeah. Um, and so, uh, that caused a stir, but you know, one of the things that I, that I think Christians especially, uh, we tend to ignore and we tend to look over is that, especially in light of Dr. MacArthur's comments is that mental health is a real thing.

And we, we kind of look over it, brush past it because it's almost like that phrase mental health has kind of been taken and then been tainted by the left where everything now is just a result of mental health.

And it's not just someone living in sin, right? Everything has been chalked up to mental health, but we can't ignore the fact that mental health is a real issue, especially when dealing with sin because it affects the mind.

But, uh, you know, you mentioned, I did want to, uh, it also, I meant it in kind of a broader sense as well as, as though not just the mind, but also how we take care of the health of our body. Because that's important too.

And I made this comment a couple of weeks ago, uh, especially me living here in the South. Everyone is overweight. Let's just say that now.

I thought everyone was Christian in the South.

They're that too. But now, now let me just, let me just make sure I kind of cover my basis here. Like I'm not talking about overweight because of some kind of glandular issue, medical issue, uh, you know, something where maybe they have something that they have to take medication for.

And that medication maybe causes them to retain a lot of water and gain weight or something, right? We're not, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the people who gain weight because of a lack of discipline and putting down the fork, right?

Gluttony is still a sin. And that affects your health, the health of your body, which God has given to you, which you are to take care of. And so, uh, so we, that was kind of the launching part. Um, but also, you know, dealing in this idea of mental health, because we also have to be disciplined.

Where does that come through? It comes through the mind. We have to be disciplined in what we do. We have to be disciplined in our actions. Uh, you know, we just,. Oh, and Brewster is in the background.

I see him.

No, he's not. He's in the foreground. What do you mean?

He's in the foreground now.

Wow. I feel like I'm in the foreground now.

Yeah. Um, and he's trying to see if my, okay. Yeah. All right.

Sometimes the camera doesn't look good. And then sometimes it looks, I'm in it. So it already looks bad enough as it is. Andrew, man,.

Long time no see. How's it going? Well, it's good for you. That's long time no see. Oh, which way, which Andrew? Sorry. No. That's why we go by Andrew and Drew. It just makes it a little bit easier.

That's right. It does make it easier. I appreciate that. Yeah. So you guys have got this whole topic figured out, right? You are.

Oh yeah, absolutely. All we did was watch a couple of YouTube videos, state the main points, and we're pretty much done now.

Yeah. Is there anything that we need to do than a YouTube video?

No. I mean, you literally can learn anything from a YouTube video.

And I want to, I want to look up and I forget, uh, I want to think, I want to say it's a first Timothy five. Uh, but I'm looking for the passage. It says that talks about, uh, you were talking about physical, not just the mental health, but the one that talks about your physical exercise is good.

Yeah. Um, Hmm. I'm trying to find it. So someone in the chat, we'll think of it and let us know before I could find it. I'm sure.

We're talking about the one where it says that physical exercises have little.

Profit. A little. Yeah. That's, that's what I'm thinking. Cause it's because there's, there's some important with that to note. Wait, you misuse that. And, and it's something where, um, it's a first Timothy four, eight first Timothy four, eight.

Okay. I was in five. So, so it says for bodily discipline is of little profit, but godliness is profitable for all things, since it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. Now, an interesting thing with this passage is I could pretty much tell you, if I hear someone preach this passage, I could tell you whether they're overweight or not.

Not absolutely. Hmm. By the way they preach this because it, you know, you're talking about people that have trouble with, with gluttony or with putting down the fork. And, and I should, I should admit, you know, for, for the audience, with all openness is that gluttony is a sin that I have struggled with very much in the past and still in the present.

Okay. Um, I used to, I used to run 40 to 60 hours a week, and I would think I was joking. I said, I would, I run so I can eat like a pig and it doesn't show. And then when I was at America's Keswick and I was counseling a guy that I was working with there and he was there for gluttony.

And as I am, so everything I said was right, biblically as far as the council goes. But as I was counseling him, I mean, the words were coming out of my mouth. And somehow before they got to him, they, they made a turn and, you know, went around the back of my head and smacked me upside the back of the head.

I remembered when, when I left America's Keswick, I called my wife on the way home to let her know. Cause back then, I'd always call to let her know I'm leaving. And, uh, and so now she could just see exactly where I am with the phones.

But I told her I was leaving. I said, and we're driving home. And I said, I realized tonight I'm a glutton and you know, it actually ruined my running for years because I actually was running so that I could give into my gluttony and feel okay about it.

And so this passage is one where people who are overweight and don't take care of themselves, the way they read this is see, you know, bodily, bodily disciplines. It's a little profit. You don't need it.

Yeah. Those who exercise and those who take care of their body point out that the, it's little profit in comparison to the godliness, which is profitable. And there is that comparison because there's the, but there, so it's, it's not this, but this, so we're, we're physical exercise is good for us.

And this is how someone who exercises with how I ended up reaching, right. It is good for us, but compared to godliness, it's a little profit compared to the profit of godliness. And so I think we have to recognize that overall for the Christian, we talk about some of these things.

The overarching thing is godliness.

Yes.

That is going to be what's profitable for us as Christians. And therefore when we speak about the issues of physical health or mental health, we have to put it in light of how do I glorify God in this?

Absolutely.

So, I mean, you were, you just got, you were just getting started though with some of the, some of the issue. And when we get to the mental health issues, I do want to say, you know, cause, cause it's interesting, I don't, I don't share this very often.

And so this guy that I started off the show was saying that I had to block. I tried to explain to him, he's like, well, you can't understand what it's like to have the issues I have. And it was interesting because he, he sent me a voice message so that I could hear his voice and what it is.

I said, like, I'm not interested in your personal experience. I'm interested in the truth of God's word. And he says, well, I'm not arguing from experience. And then he sent me a 30 minute message that was nothing but his experience.

And I said to him, listen, just, just go and listen to how many times you used personal pronouns, just go and check, you know? Um, and so the thing is, is that he's like, well, you can't understand what it's like because you've never lived this.

So as we, well, yeah, as, as we discuss this, I mean, first off, I disagree with that argument, like you have to live it to, you know, I don't have to be divorced to be able to counsel someone, of course, just going to say that.

Yeah.

Um, but I come from a background with a serious issue with OCD. Uh, I would be classified as ADHD.

Okay.

But see, I don't use those terms for me because A, they're not biblical. And I, you know, there are like the OCD. I learned how to overcome that. And it's, it, was it easy? Absolutely not. But it's a difference of your thinking versus your feeling.

And so I would feel like some, like I gotta go check the door lock, even though I lived alone and there's nobody else in the house, it's not like someone snuck in my window and came in and unlocked the door, but I would check my door seven, eight, 12 times a night, just, I mean, I would be sitting in the room where the door is.

And cause I had a one bedroom apartment and I would, I would go to check to see, you know, is it locked? And it's, it was a feeling thing and it was painful, but what I had to do is stop feeling and start thinking.

So I ended up, um, you know, dealing with the fact of saying, look, I just have to, I know I feel like I got to check the door, but I just got to ignore that because I know that there's no one that came in same thing with checking the stove, there'd be things, you know, I had to have my clothes ordered a certain way in the closet.

And so my wife was really good with helping me with a lot of that. When I, when I got married, it helped. So can you recover from some of these things? Some of the things?

Yes.

But some things, no, I recognize that there's, there's going to be physical things there, there are things. And I do want to say that, uh, we do need to be aware when, when people put out studies that say, well, look, these studies show that someone with PSTD has this gene and, and things like that.

I get that the studies show that, but we have to also take into account. There's a area of research called epigenetics. And the thing with epigenetics shows that the question is, you know, when they were talking about the gauging, all people that are practicing with sexuality, they can't help, but they just have this gene.

Well, what epigenetics shows is that behavior can actually change the genes. So now the question is, did someone have, cause they, they never checked when they say that people have the, the gay gene, they only check those people who practice homosexuality.

So now that we have this study of epigenetics, the question becomes, did the behavior change the genes? And therefore it's because they all behave the same way that they have that gene was there beforehand.

You know, in talking about that, it kind of brings light almost to Romans one, right, uh, where God gives them over to their sin, right? The, they live in that. They want to live in that and engage in that behavior, that sinful behavior.

And God says, okay. And I love how Dr. Steve Lawson says when God gives them over, he's pushing them in that direction. He's saying, there you go. Right. Going right on down the hill. Um, so I think what you just said, kind of, you know, when you engage in that behavior, when you engage in sin to that extent and reject God, it does have an effect on you in that way.

Yeah.

So I I'm hesitant to even say this next part because the, uh, the chat is on fire.

Tonight and I've got people, I want to just post it. I want to post it. So, you know, um, so John is saying this, cause I do want to address this. John says, and Brewster, thank you. Just so you know, I will not listen to you because of your views on yoga.

I strongly disagree with you. So John, let me just speak to this for a moment before Aaron says anything. First off, even if you disagree with him on his view on yoga, that doesn't mean he's wrong on everything.

In fact, he can be wrong on everything, but yoga, right? I mean, down that episode, we, you know, Aaron and I disagreed on that, but just because I disagree with on, on that does not mean I'm not going to listen to him on other areas.

In fact, I do listen to him because I value his advice and I value his counsel and I value his, his views on a lot of things. It doesn't mean I agree with everything, but so do, do not. And this is something as Christians and we're right, we're here on this show to teach apologetics.

One thing you never want to do is wrote everything someone says out because you disagree with one thing, one position they have.

Okay.

That actually hurts you more than anyone.

Okay.

So, um, but yeah,.

If that's how we lived in did ministry, right. We would all just be a bunch of islands, right? We w we would have nobody.

Well, that's why we fill ourselves with, you know, surround ourselves with our echo chambers and so on and so forth. I mean, and you're right. Like I, I would want to separate for myself most days, honestly, because there are days I don't disagree.

I don't agree with myself. Um, but I say this because what I'm about to say, I'm really transparent with you guys. Um, people could weaponize this against me. You know, Hey, you know, may the Lord judge between us.

But so growing up, I'm thankful that I grew up in a time when mental illness didn't exist. And you'll understand why I say that in a minute. Had it, had I grown up in this day and age, I would have been diagnosed, clinically diagnosed with ADHD.

Um, I would have been diagnosed with ODD. I would have been diagnosed with what is ODD? That is, um, uh, it's a defiance disorder. I always get the O wrong. Um, I would have been diagnosed with, uh, my, my, my brain's going blank.

Now, even when I was five years old, I would have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, believe it or not. I wanted nothing more than to put on a bunch of girls clothes and flounce around. So, uh, depression, anxiety, all this stuff.

Thankfully, again, my parents wouldn't have bought into that. And, uh, that wasn't in vogue. The reality is that I don't like to use the term mental illness, unless I'm saying that I don't like to use the term mental illness, because first of all, it makes no sense.