The Trinity is F**KED?! | More WOKE Tik Tok Theology | Pastor Reacts

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has anyone else noticed how f**k the trinity is?

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say what? can i - can i try this?

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this is silly god... is gay god is a lesbian god is trans but that's not what jesus actually meant at all being born anew to see the kingdom of god is not about believing certain doctrines the early church was a group of people who came together around a social and spiritual vision you can tell this is a garbage take because of one simple fact welcome back friends today is a new day and time for a new video my name is nate sala and you're watching wise disciple where we're helping you become the effective christian that you were meant to be before i jumped into this ministry i was a debate teacher and a pastor so with the intersection of those skills let's turn our attention to tiktok where all the deep theology is taking place in today's culture wait what's that?

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that's not true my bad well let's react to whatever is being passed off as theology these days but let's do it with an eye on scripture and a heart of compassion it's gonna be hard okay but this is a good exercise for us as christians so let's get right into it you better convert and love jesus or you're gonna burn in hell forever i'm already a christian are you though?

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yeah i'm not gonna play this game i'm just trying to tell you the truth in love repent or burn okay what do you mean okay?

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i mean i'm not gonna respond to your antagonism with hatred or anger because i don't want to help your leaders manipulate you through isolation what?

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if you really wanted me to convert you'd talk to me about jesus's miracles the way he healed people fed people you'd probably give me some free food that sounds like bribing people to believe in jesus i didn't say it was ethical i just said it would be more effective but people need to know that the wages of sin is death or consider that your leaders are intentionally trying to isolate you what?

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when you go out and tell people they'll burn in hell the response is usually negative right? hostile even it teaches you that the outside world is bad and you're good it makes you feel persecuted even though you were the aggressor in the first place that all has the effect of isolating you and strengthening your loyalty to your brand of christianity it's intentional it hurts people and it doesn't actually save souls this video is probably compelling for a lot of people because it actually includes a couple of things that are true so i came up as a pastor at an sbc church i wasn't too familiar with the sbc before becoming a pastor i certainly had never heard of the ifb you know independent fundamentalist baptist not saying all churches in the ifb are a problem the point is these types of churches and structures that this lady alludes to actually exist they are structured around a particular senior pastor or church leader who he leads with a very heightened vision that pits adherence to this vision against the outside world and then it furthers this kind of constant adversarial stance which then leads to isolationism which in turn creates an environment for abuse now i'm thinking of, you know, west borough baptist church i'm thinking of bob goddard in the iblp, right?

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so this lady is right when she identifies these structures that actually do exist and also good for this lady for pointing out that turn and burn style preaching is not the way to lead off or initially speak to people i actually agree with that having said that, the question is should the threat of hell be completely off limits to the christian as they engage others for the kingdom of heaven?

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and the answer is absolutely not the bible teaches about hell and so good bible readers are going to need to talk about it, right?

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you have to ask the question when someone says if you don't repent you'll go to hell is that unbiblical?

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is that something not found in the bible? are people getting this idea from abusive leaders who manipulate them?

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or are they getting that from the bible? matthew 10 28 says who said that?

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no, jesus said that and we all need to wrestle with what he meant when he said it i've got news for you you cannot allegorize jesus' words right here into universalism sorry clearly he wanted his disciples to understand what god can and will do to those who reject him wait, what's that?

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jesus said more along these lines? take a look at this verse 34 does this sound like giving people free food?

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does it sound like focusing on miracles and healings only? not at all now, did jesus give people free food?

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sure but why did he do that, progressive christian? why did he feed the masses? he did that like a good jewish rabbi because there was a lesson that he was teaching the people around him particularly his disciples he used the exercise of feeding the crowd with miraculous food to teach them an important lesson about himself as well as the kingdom of god in other words, jesus didn't just feed people simply because they were hungry he didn't just heal people simply because they needed healing everything jesus did provided him the opportunity to teach about god when jesus said to teach them all that i have commanded you that's the great commission, right?

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well, is this not part of jesus' commands to his disciples? rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell is that not a command to all of disciples of jesus that they should obey?

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wow, nate, that sounds an awful lot like fear -mongering and hate rhetoric to control people the only way that this lady can say what she's saying is because she ignores jesus' complete teaching on hell she also completely ignores the disciples' own application of jesus' teaching on hell and what we're left with is don't talk about hell, guys reduce jesus down to just his healings and his miracles only also, give out free food that in no way will give folks the wrong impression about what's at stake with regard to their own sin and how it separates us from god no, don't worry about that that was kind of fast okay jesus never said anything about abortion gee, i don't know why he wouldn't have i mean, there must have been so many planned parenthoods around jerusalem back in the 1st century dang, why didn't he say anything, guys?

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you know, come to think of it jesus didn't say anything about people becoming furries either you know what?

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jesus didn't say anything about the first moon landing i knew it was a hoax jesus didn't say anything about the internet, guys wow!

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dang, wait a second jesus didn't say anything about the chosen, guys this is blowing my mind okay jesus never said anything about abortion, homosexuality, and transgendered people now, here's the response that we as christians need to get used to saying when folks make these kinds of statements you ready for this?

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so therefore what? in other words so therefore what follows from this?

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if jesus never said anything about a particular topic are you saying that therefore he endorses that particular topic?

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see, that kind of fully formed claim is what we need to pull out of folks like this very often people make these kinds of half -baked or half -cooked claims you know, they're incomplete and so we need to help them fully complete these claims so that we can properly respond if jesus never said anything about abortion does that mean that he fully endorses it?

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well, wait a second do not think that i have come to abolish the law or the prophets i have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them now, this was a very jewish way of saying i'm here to show you how to properly interpret the scripture jesus refers to the law and the prophets and that is shorthand for what we call today the old testament, okay?

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so a fundamental component of jesus' ministry was to properly interpret the old testament hmm, what does the old testament have to say about homosexuality, guys?

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we've been through this before in previous videos look at leviticus 18 .22 you shall not lie with a male as with a woman it is an abomination same thing is said in leviticus 20 .13

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you can look at genesis 1 .27 and so god created man in his own image in the image of god he created him male and female he created them okay, these passages well, they're not the only ones but these passages give you a clear picture of how god designed human sexuality and gender and the roles of men and women especially with regard to their sexual practices all right i actually unpacked a lot of this more in the last woke tiktok video so you should definitely check that out okay, so that's what the old testament says about those issues what about abortion?

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again, what is the attitude that the bible teaches us to have with regard to children? look at genesis 1 .28,

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right? and god blessed them and god said to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it okay, what does multiply mean?

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does it mean get pregnant and then kill them in the womb? no see, the israelites understood the value of children there was no abortion epidemic in their society the way that we see one in ours today why?

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well, because the bible teaches that children are a tremendous blessing psalm 127, verse 3 says behold, children are a heritage from the lord the fruit of the womb a reward children are a direct gift from god why?

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because he wants us to multiply and fill the earth and subdue it it goes back to genesis like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one's youth blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them with children why didn't jesus say anything about abortion?

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why didn't he say anything about homosexuality or transgenderism? because he didn't need to remember, one of the reasons that he came to earth was to properly interpret the old testament and guess what?

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the israelites already properly understood the issues of human sexuality and of having children had someone tried to affirm this kind of nonsense in the first century the israelites would have immediately understood as we do today that this is not what god intended this is not part of god's design for humanity jesus didn't say anything about these issues because he didn't need to what is the deal with not saying anything but just smiling and dancing and pointing at words on a screen?

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is this what counts as compelling speech these days? 15 seconds of a song and smiling?

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can i can i try this? okay let me see this is silly, okay?

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i mean this is uh god created lgbtq folks really, where does the bible teach that?

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see we do have a creation account for humanity but as i just pointed out genesis 1 very clearly shows us that when god created humanity he created them male and female and then gave them specific roles to fill the earth and subdue it that's why in genesis chapter 2 we see the institution of marriage to surround and give meaning and depth to the job that god gave humanity therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife and they shall become one flesh this is of course after god creates eve from adam's side do you see the creation of the lgbtq folks anywhere in there?

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this is just a claim that is backed up not with scripture but like music and pointing and smiling reverend rosie and this is a pentecost grant has anyone else noticed how the trinity is when it comes to you know say what?

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this is a this is a reverend i take it she preaches from the word of god and she says the trinity is what?

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the inequity of what is happening of the workload is un -inequitable un -inequitable?

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is that even a word in the progressive lexicon? inequity is un -inequitable i'ma i'ma chew on that one like the spirit has literally birthed the church helps every single one of us pray gives us all the ability to speak to god and speak for god and with god and you know moves and works with every single person within them and without them and transforms the world but like most people forget that she's even part of it and then homeboy and daddy -o are all taking all the credit mean like is she talking about god the father and jesus the son?

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homeboy and daddy -o the utter lack of reverence and respect and fear for the godhead for the persons of the trinity i wow if this woman does not immediately repent for her disdain of the lord i mean i don't i don't want to be anywhere near her when she stands before god i think we all need to back away and recede into the bushes like homer on this one he literally takes all the credit half of the stuff that the spirit does homeboy takes a credit for now look daddy -o is up there doing their work i mean i get it administration is hard you made the world, okay?

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but like who is the backbone? who's doing all the work? and get none of the credit the women the spirit sounds like the church to me did she did she just say the holy what the heck is going on right now?