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Especially when I can share with others What I am doing for a living and that

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He said you've got to meet Lou Vega and you've got to interview Lou Vega and after sitting down with

Lou pastor Lou I Was convinced that this may be one of the times that Bill Hill is

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And I actually I immediately knew that Bill Hill was Absolutely, right about this.

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The day before the 4th of July Independence Day To be discussing the theme

tyranny its cause and cure that is our theme today with Lou Vega senior pastor of

Covenant Church in Houston, Texas, which is a.

A.

Congregation within the PCA Presbyterian Church in America and Lou was born in Cuba and

fled with his family to America after Fidel Castro's communist revolution and takeover of

Cuba.

And it is obviously Very fitting that he discusses a theme like the

one we are addressing today.

Tyranny its cause and cure.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio pastor Lou Vega.

I've already had my.

Well, I don't think that I'm exaggerating in the slightest bit.

Great.

Were you speaking to Cal very recently?

In fact that reminds me Cal Emailed me when I was away on a trip.

I just got back from Tennessee myself Franklin Tennessee and in fact

before that I was in Birmingham, Alabama, and after that I was in Greensboro, North Carolina, but.

But Cal emailed me asking if I wanted to interview him again, and I've got to get back in touch with him.

I'm in Florida.

I will have to try to worm my way into his house.

Well before we go into.

Your personal your personality your personal testimony.

What I meant to say before we go into that.

Because as many of our listeners know that is a tradition on iron sharpens Iron radio whenever we have a first -time guest.

We have that guest give their personal salvation story.

But before we do that tell our listeners something about Covenant Church in Houston, Texas.

Well

one

thing

that I

might

want

to

ask

just

because.

The PCA amongst the conservative Branches

of Presbyterianism since it's so large there's more of a spectrum

of diversity even though I would say everyone who is still in good standing with the PCA is

biblically sound and Confessionally solid, but I would have obviously varying degrees of this

Disagreement from congregation to congregation and I also being a reformed Baptist disagree with some of my reformed

Baptist friends who are pastors and that what.

Some things their churches may believe in and practice but if you could tell us give us so I could

a description of where your church would land in the orbit of

the PCA would you tend to be a lot more on the conservative side and

the views about.

The

involvement

of

women

in

leadership

and

all

these

things

that

you

might

want

to

address

the

framework.

Oh,

wow.

I love Thornwell just out of

curiosity.

I don't want to get you in too much trouble, but.

Thornwell was one of the few at least today.

He's a voice amongst the few Presbyterians that did not

believe in accepting Roman Catholic baptism as valid.

I was just wondering where you stood on that.

Well that

specific

topic

actually

if

anybody

wants

to hear

my friend

Jeff

Waddington's

take

on that very

issue

of

Thornwell's.

Non -acceptance of Roman Catholic baptism, which Jeff Waddington agreed with.

You can look up in the archives of iron sharpens iron radio .com.

Do you know Jeff by the way?

He's an Orthodox Presbyterian Minister.

And

of

course.

Thornwell's arguments were not isolated to the Church of Rome

being a False church.

It was the ceremony itself.

The right has been changed from the biblical practice even though there is a

Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit being cited in the in the right.

There are other things going on.

There are Saints being prayed to and and all kinds of things.

You're really being baptized into the Roman Catholic Church not into Christ.

So there's a lot of things going on there.

Well, we will maybe return to that the topic in a future interview, but right now

I'd like you to begin.

Your summary of your own salvation testimony, I know that you were born in Cuba.

Tell our listeners what kind of religious? Atmosphere if any you were raised in and what kind of providential

circumstances rose up in your life that drew you to Christ?

And saved you and and even led you to the reformed faith.

Natural next step

and in

Francisco Franco

was in the

allegiance

to the

Nazis at

one point.

Absolutely

Yes,

eight

years 2011.

Well, I

was

when

I

was

a

Catholic

elementary

school

student.

We we had to tell our parents that they had to buy us a copy and it remained in our desks in

Catholic school.

Unopened it.

We never the nuns told us we had to get it because it was Vatican to time.

And but we never used it.

Oh, man.

In fact, we're gonna pick up right where you left off there when we return from our first break.

I want you to continue the story and how you eventually embrace the reformed faith and also how you entered into the ministry.

But please if you have a question for Lou Vega, our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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Don't go away.

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finest preachers on the planet Earth.

Reverend Jeff Thomas Truly an extraordinary man of God that most reformed people will recognize.

Reverend Armin Tamasian a brother, I believe who will be a household name Amongst reformed Christians

over the next decade.

He is just an extraordinary young man with gifts and abilities far beyond his youth.

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River Richard Caldwell jr. And and Andrew Quigley are two names on the roster.

I have never heard preached before but if sermon audio picked them they must be magnificent.

So if you'd like to join me there Thursday and Friday December 19th and 20th in New York City go to the foundations

conference calm the foundations conference calm and register and I am

really looking forward to it.

Especially since this will be during the Christmas season and I can't think of a better place to be during The Christmas season than New York

City.

Then in January I am packing up my bags again and heading down south to Atlanta, Georgia more

specifically College Park, Georgia.

To the Georgia International Convention Center for the g3 conference.

The three G's stand for gospel grace and glory and this January's theme is

worship matters.

The speakers include a really phenomenal lineup as always this

January they are Kosti Hinn whose name you may

recognize that you may recognize his last name on before.

Unfortunately for a horrible reason his uncle is the notorious charlatan Benny Hinn the word -of

-faith heretic and and Kosti Hinn would not be upset hearing me say that about his uncle because Kosti Hinn has

made it a mission in his life to expose his uncle and Those promoting the word -of -faith heresy

for the charlatans.

They are and for the deadly and damning doctrines that they promote and

Kosti Hinn is Repented of the word -of -faith heresy.

He is now a reformed Baptist pastor and a cessationist in California and he is on the

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Also David Miller a really fine powerful preacher of the gospel.

Derek Thomas.

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Very well -known name amongst reformed Christians my friend since 1995.

Dr. James R. White of Alpha and Omega ministries.

Will be on the roster.

Joel Beeky another friend of mine since the 1990s president of Puritan Reform Theological Seminary.

Josh Bice who is the founder of the g3 conference again?

We have Stephen J Lawson and Paul Washer on the roster at this conference my friend.

Dr Tomaskal who's the executive director of Founders Ministries the Calvinistic ministry within the Southern

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Chris Arnson at gmail .com and Lou I know that you've reached the point where you have embraced the reformed

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The gospel lived out is not only praise to our Lord, but important to those who are lost.

Thank him for me and that's from sterling vanderwercker.

I just thought I'd pass that on to you since it's a nice word of encouragement.

Okay, if you could now pick up where you

really knew that God had a call upon your life to enter into the ministry.

By

the way,

do

you

know

one

of

my

pastors

John

Miller

Grace

Baptist

Church

of

Carlisle,

Pennsylvania.

I love John Miller.

Yes.

Of course.

I know dr. Piper who I've interviewed Joey Piper and I've interviewed.

Let's see, of course.

I've mentioned for Bill Hill from the seminary and I know I know Jeff Downs.

I.

Can't remember if Deckard Stevens was a student there, but I know he was from that area.

As you know, Deckard Stevens.

Oh, oh, I'm Ryan McGraw.

I've interviewed.

Yes.

No.

No, I mean you're hitting all that's my sir.

Great.

Well on now.

Tell us something about setting the stage before we go into the biblical data about tyranny.

Set the stage a little bit about Castro's Cuba what you can remember about it as a child

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remember or what what was related to you by your parents.

And you're finding a new home in America and.

Give us an idea of why this subject of tyranny is so etched in your heart and mind.

Oh, that's fine.

I'm looking for.

I already know that I want to do part two at least and possibly part two and three on the subject.

With you.

Wow

was

like

a

cognac

a rare coin.

Like Santeria.

How can I forget.

Well, of course at the at the.

Tropicana, right?

That's right.

Wow

in

fact

a

lot of

people.

Especially Millennials.

Would have no idea that what at one time Cuba was the playground of the rich and famous for for those in

the United States who had vacation there and even a playground provided by the

Mafia.

In fact now we have to go to our final break.

I'll make it as brief as possible and of course.

Don't be too anxious because we will definitely as long as our guest is per is willing and God is

willing.

We're gonna have part two.

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Well, we're now back to the final segment with our guest today Lou Vega, we are going

to be continuing this no doubt on another program on the theme tyranny its cause and

cure.

And before the break you were just reaching the point of.

Explaining

why

Cuba

became

a

ripe

place

for

a

communist

revolution.

Oh,

yeah.

I definitely want to have you back.

In fact, I have I'm gonna when we go off the air I'm going to read some dates to you because I definitely want to have you

back on the air soon.

On this issue in fact, we have a Listener who has a question to ask.

We have CJ and Lyndon Hearst Long Island, New York who says.

Many liberals laugh and scoff and mock at the notion that this nation

the United States of America will ever become succumbed to a tyrannical

rule and that is one of the reasons that they Are trying to rob us of our rights to bear

arms.

Do you think that the Threat of a tyranny rising up in America is a lot more real

than our liberal friends imagine.

I mean,

in

fact

what

we see

things

like this

happening

all the time that

are rising up in

our

midst

right now.

It's not even a future threat.

There are things happening all around us people losing their livelihoods because they may oppose a

Homosexuality because they believe in a biblical concept of morality and sin.

And there's all kinds of things but.

They

Spanish

names.

No, no.

Right and we're gonna pick up right where you left off there.

And I will if you could stay in the line so I can get a date Reserved for you for a part two of this

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I look forward to having you back on the program if you could please stay so we can get you back on the air Pastor Lou.

And I'll be right with you after we close.

I want to thank everybody who listened today and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives That Jesus Christ is

a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.

Amen.