June 16, 2022 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “Books That Changed My Life”

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this is Chris Arnzen your host of iron sharpens iron radio Wishing you all a happy Thursday on the 16th day of June 2022 and I am thrilled to have as a returning guest somebody who is obviously one of my very favorite guests to interview that has made quite palpably evident from the numerous times that I interview this brother and In fact my opinion has been echoed very loudly by a growing number of my listeners

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I'm speaking of dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft the third who is an author and Also the pastor at Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia and today we are going to address books that changed his life

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It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio. Dr.. Joe Moorcraft Well as always especially for the sake of those who have

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Not heard you on the program before and if that's the case they must be new listeners Due to the frequency with which

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I interview you or but tell our listeners about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia It is a congregation in a small believing

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Presbyterian denomination Called the Reform Presbyterian Church, Hanover, Presbytery We have a handful of churches

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We are committed to the inerrancy of scripture the original Westminster confession of faith and the carrying out of the

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Great Commission We started about seven or eight years ago and God has caused us to grow a great deal through those years and to influence a lot of people our people come from all kinds of backgrounds and they are they know why they come and They want to hear the

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Word of God pure and unmixed with human opinion and They also want to be used of God in spreading the gospel and the reformed faith all over the world

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So our church though, it's small spends a great amount of money In evangelism and in world missions and in getting the gospel all over the world by every means possible

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So they are a loving and friendly congregation and they are

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As I say that this year we have grown tremendously Well, if anybody wants more details about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia visit heritagepresbyterianchurch .com

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heritagepresbyterianchurch .com And today we are addressing a theme that you

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Very strongly enthusiastically Recommended to me books that changed your life and Perhaps it might be a good idea to start with two extreme views on the use of books

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Non -canonical canonical books those books that are extra biblical. They're not a part of God's God -breathed canon

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On one end of the spectrum you have those who to the serious neglect of the

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Holy Scriptures Spend the vast majority if not the entirety of their reading time focused on Those that are not

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God -breathed books those that are Even the great works of theologians of the past and of the present

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And you have those on the other end of the spectrum Who have a

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I believe a false piety? And a misguided adherence

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To the truth of sola scriptura, but they twist that Into something that might be rightly named solo scriptura in other words they

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They think that we should not be wasting our times reading Any books outside the

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Bible and yet ironically these same people are likely members of churches where they listen to sermons every

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Sunday and those words coming from the pulpit are not the Identical words from the

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God -breathed canon, so you have a bit of hypocrisy there but if you could tell us what the your

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Biblically informed opinion would be the correct balance somewhere in the middle of those two extremes

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Yeah, I like what Spurgeon said He said visit many books But make your home in the

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Bible Amen and Matthew Henry Said something similar

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He said books are great company But there's no company like the book of God and so if we spend all of our time only reading books by men and not be driven by serious study of the

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Bible Our Christianity Will have a deadness to it and a coldness to it and you can usually tell

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Whether somebody just reads the books of men even good books of men But does not pay any serious attention to the

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Bible on the other hand It's important to read books like it's important to read sermons

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I hear sermons books are sermons to the eye like preaching is sermons to the ear and The preaching of the cross is the power of God into salvation to everyone who believes and that Preaching can be verbal and audible or it can be written.

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I Can be stirred by solid preachers in the pulpit who's preaching the Word of God And I can be stirred by Mighty men of God who wrote down in black and white what they would have preached on and probably did preach on in their churches

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So we can't put books on par with the Bible But we must realize that There are means of grace

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When a person says well, all we need is the Bible That is not exactly right because we need the means of grace that God has ordained for us

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To help us understand the scriptures and understand how to prime in our lives we need we need the

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Lord's Supper We need church membership We need the fellowship of believers and we need books and we need sermons

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I was I made it proficient of faith when I was 11 years old my family was just nominal

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Christian and I Went forward in a revival service it was a presbyterian church, but it was a fundamentalist presbyterian church and the pastor was a godly man and He took me under his wing

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But I met and I read the Bible all the time I Listened to his sermons all the time or every

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Sunday morning Sunday evening Wednesday night spring revival fall revival and I would read the

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Bible all the time, but I Didn't know to read books. I didn't even know there were books out there worth reading

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I Was all the way past high school and into college

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Before I started Realizing how important reading books are and it was in the last years.

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I was in high school in college Last year's I was in college for the first time in my life in 10 years or 11,

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I saw the word predestination and Asked my pastor.

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It was a godly man. I Asked him what predestination was since I've never heard him talk about it

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He was presbyterian preacher Wow a presbyterian preacher that you've never heard speak on predestination.

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That's yes Quite an anomaly. Yes, sir, and he gave me a good catechism answer and I can remember how turned off I was

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I Thought it was terrible. I thought like a lot of people do when they hear it for the first time, but I Think it does violation to the human will so I was really mad at the fact that there was such a doctrine and I was determined that I wasn't going to believe it and I was going to refute it.

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So I went down to the local bookstore and I decided I wanted to get two books.

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I had nobody to guide me. Nobody to lead me. I Wanted to get some books to read on this subject with a view of to refuting them

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So I got two books and This is where my reading began. I God and The other was

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Lorraine Bettner the reformed doctor of predestination That was just a providential occurrence that you bought those books without any knowledge about the authors

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I had nobody guiding me Wow. I didn't know what I was doing

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I just wanted to get two books on the subject and Those two books like look like they ought to be on the subject and they put blowtorches and everything

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I believe And Arthur Pink, you know how manude he is in exegeting the scripture

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Arthur Pink would go through the scripture chapter by chapter very carefully and bring out the doctrine of predestination and election and the various doctrines of Calvinism to And convinced me that these weren't just Sidelines That these just weren't

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Optional things you had to believe But he convinced me that these were right at the heart of the

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Bible. I'd never realized that before. I He taught me about the depravity of man

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God's election not based upon any decisions we make the fact that The scope of the of the atonement is limited to those that Christ came to say that God's grace is irresistible and that it is invincible and The perseverance the saints that once once somebody's really converted

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God keeps them in a way of holiness persevering all their lives

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So that book and Arthur Pink made a great impact on me but so did at the same time

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Lorraine Bettner's book the reformed doctrine of predestination Yes, Lorraine Bettner.

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I've often said is my favorite female author And Meredith Klein is a second runner

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And What that was helpful to me was to see

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Not only the doctrines of the reformed faith but also to see that their place in history

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That these were not the opinions of just some man like Arthur Pink But that these were right in the mainstream of the history of the

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Christian Church Now what's great about Arthur Pink's book the sovereignty of God?

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And Lorraine Bettner's book the reformed doctrine of predestination Is they're not written for scholars?

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There they are scholarly and but they're not written for seminaries. They are written for the serious minded

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Christian Who wants to learn everything he can about the Word of God. Those are the kinds of books that had the biggest impact on my life and so I read those books and I loved

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Calvinism and I became a pastor of a small little church in the coalfields of the

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Appalachian Mountains in southwest, Virginia and before I came there I When I when

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I got there, I loved reading about Calvinism and the reformed faith But I didn't think it was supposed to influence your ministry.

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So I would give altar calls and I would do everything a good Arminian would do but I did and I didn't see the dichotomy of it all and Calvinism was a series of important doctrines and that was about it

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So as I was pastoring in this small little church, I had the opportunity to do some serious reading and There were some more serious minded books that I began to read

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That showed me That the reformed faith was not simply a handful of doctrines, but it was a whole worldview

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It was a whole way of looking at life It wasn't a paper bag where you're reaching the paper bag and you pull out some doctrines and talk about them but they were woven together and knit together a

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One unseparably bound to the other and through these doctrines you have a whole worldview and Then I read some books during that period of time

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That showed me that it was not just they were not just theological It was a whole way of looking at life and living life it was a the reformed faith taught you how to apply the

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Bible to every area of life and And so the books that did that to me in 1969 in this small little church

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Were rushed to these Institutes of Biblical Law Are you still there?

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Oh, yeah The the

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Institutes of Biblical Law, it's a it's a thick book And nobody told me

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I shouldn't read rush duty I mean he wasn't that famous back then and this was the first edition of his book and I just couldn't believe it

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Here's this reformed faith that I love now and I realized it's a whole worldview and he shows how to put it into practice in My life and the man that showed me that it was a whole worldview was a

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Cornelius Vantille Now Cornelius Vantille is a very difficult man to read

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He's so brilliant so intellectual But he it was his book that helped me to see

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That it is a divinely authoritative worldview That speaks to everything so those were two major times of my life and in the middle 60s when

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I learned the reformed faith and And read pink and read Lorraine Bettner and then in 1969 when

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I had the opportunity to dig even deeper, but I skipped a phase

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I In between those times in the middle 60s,

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I went to a very liberal Presbyterian seminary in Decatur, Georgia Called Columbia Theological Seminary in the 19th century.

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It was great Included men like James Thornwell By the time

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I was there in the middle 60s, it had become extremely liberal But it was very easy

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It was not academically challenging and so I bought me a big easy chair and I bought every book

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I could afford by Francis Schaefer and Benjamin Warfield and I would devour them

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I'd stay up late at night reading those two men and Francis Schaefer helped me to see the cultural implications the philosophical implications of the gospel and his analysis of culture

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I helped me understand how to Analyze culture in the light of the Word of God Benjamin Warfield Is one of the great was one of the greatest scholars in the history of Church He taught at Princeton Seminary in the late 1800s the early 1900s

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And my advice to people anything with Benjamin Warfield's name on it Buy it.

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He's got something on just about everything He's great on exegesis on expounding the scriptures and Teaching you how to read the scripture correctly

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Without reading into it something. It doesn't say Or without blinding yourselves from seeing what it really does say

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Some of his books are more difficult to read than others But they're all

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Good for you He's got a great book on the Holy Spirit that to me is the best one of the

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Best books on the Holy Spirit. I know my two favorite books on the Holy Spirit are

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Benjamin Warfield, I think it's called the Spirit of God But it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.

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I Didn't know what the leading of the Spirit meant till I read Warfield And the other book of the

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Holy Spirit is by C .R.

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Vaughan C .R. Vaughan was a southern Presbyterian in the late middle 19th century and His book on the

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Holy Spirit is also magnificent Exegetical Shows what the

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Holy Spirit does in a person's life before he's converted what the

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Holy Spirit does in a person's life when he is converted and What the

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Holy Spirit does in a person's life after he's converted both of those two books

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Whatever other books you have on Holy Spirit sell them and get these two books

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In fact, I know that my former pastor when he

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Was running Calvary Press publishing That was eventually sold by another friend of mine

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Joe. It was sold to another friend of mine Joe Bianchi in Greenville, South Carolina but while pastor

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Gaydosh was operating Calvary Press He created a book

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Where he gathered together Writings by Warfield on the

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Holy Spirit and he titled the book the person and work of the Holy Spirit That's probably the same book.

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I'm talking about. Okay, great I'm sure it's the same one He he wrote along all kinds of subjects one of the greatest chapters of any book that I've ever read anywhere is

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A chapter by Warfield in his book biblical and I Think it's called on the person work of Christ and it is called the emotional life of our

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Lord I'm emotionally stirred every time I read that that chapter the emotional life of our

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Lord He has emotions because he is a man and he explains these powerful emotions

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That were in the humanity of the Lord Jesus Christ He has another chapter that I go back to every now and then called and this is in a book called biblical and theological studies and it's called the prophecies of st.

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Paul and That's another book to that's a

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Chapter that should be read Because he goes through Paul's letters and shows What Paul has prophesied about the future?

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Both at the second coming of Christ after the second coming of Christ and before the second coming of Christ So I can't say enough good things

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About Benjamin Warfield now understand while I'm saying all these things that There's only one infallible book.

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There's only one book that's incapable of error and it's the

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Bible So When I explain these books that had such a great impact upon my life

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I'm not I don't want to imply That I agree with everything like I agree with the

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Bible amen, and I Have a favorite quote of my own by Spurgeon that is heard every single day in my show that is included in the ad for solid ground

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Because the danger of Saying I am just going to read my

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Bible. In fact, there are people I have met people that I know who don't even

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Worship the Lord in his gathered assembly anymore because they think so highly of their own intellect and their own grasp of the scriptures that they just Devote their lives to private study of the

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Bible and they don't go to church. They don't read The writings of great men of history that there is really a very serious and dangerous

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Evidence there of pride and thinking more highly one more highly of Oneself than then you should and that's how false doctrine spreads to yes that the

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I Don't want to imply that the only two good books all the Holy Spirit were by Warfield and Vaughn, but in my opinion the best

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There's a lot of great books by reformed people on the Holy Spirit There's a lot of books on the

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Holy Spirit today that aren't worth reading and Be discerning.

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That's one of the important things that I can tell you is be discerning. Don't just Devour books and read without knowing who you're reading

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Know something about authors know something about publishing houses and don't read read the books that are

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As biblically accurate as possible There's a lot of books out there and some of those books have some good things some bad things

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After you've read all the real good books come back to those But stay away from books until you've read the substantial ones what

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I call the God -owned books Stay away from the other books that are partially true and partially false stay with the books that God has conspicuously used in the life of his church over generations and that as accurately as humanly possible

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Explain to you what the Bible says Amen and we're gonna have to go to our first break right now if anybody would like to join us with a question of your own for dr.

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This is Chris Sarnes and if he just tuned us in our guest today is dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft the third author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia We are talking about books that changed dr.

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Moorcraft's life and Dr. Moorcraft if you could pick up where you left off well before we leave

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My early pastor did the Appalachian Mountains Because I want to go back to some more books

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Because the books that I read then in that obscure little place

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Have affected me for the rest of my life Along with reading

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Rush Dooney and I I want people to understand that Rush Dooney did not just write on the law of God his book

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Institutes of biblical law shows you how to apply the laws the Bible to our modern culture

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But he wrote on all kinds of things his book messianic character of American education is the basis of the whole

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Christian school homeschool movement and He's got books on science the mythology of science biblical view of history the politics

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One of his most important books is called politics of guilt and pity it helps you understand things a

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Lot better had you never read? He helps as a book called foundations of social order that is one of my favorites in that he goes through the councils of the early church and the early creeds and Explains them and shows how they apply as well to Our life in this world

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He wrote commentaries He wrote commentaries are from Old Testament and all the

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New Testament two of my favorite books by him are on the United States Constitution and the political viewpoints growing out of that or as the basis of it that those two books are this independent

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Republic and The nature of the American system Once you read those you'll want to read them time and again

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Which leads me to another book and I want to mention before I forget it. It's not a book

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I read back in those days. I read it about a decade later But it is also one of the most important books in my library and I think it has about a hundred pages

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It's hardback and it's called the guys of every graceless heart by a man named

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Terry illness published by rest in his organization illness was an elder and It is on the subject what happened to American puritanism

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What happened in New England? when it was such a strong and and Sturdy bulwark for Christianity what happened to it?

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But that's another subject, but that book I've read not only given away time after time after time

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But I have read that book over and over and in fact, I have memorized some parts of it called the guys

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GUISE of every graceless heart but there was another man back in those days a very young man in his 20s

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I read I think what's called a draft copy of his book. That is it was not bound

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It was just sheets of paper in a box His name is it before it was actually published

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His name was Greg Monson. He died prematurely in his 40s and His book was called theonomy and Christian ethics

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Theonomy is made up of two Greek words. They are God Namas law the law of God and It's pretty heady stuff.

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So Gary North had him rewrite it later on into a paperback called by this standard every

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Serious minded Christian should read that book It is not written for seminarians though.

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It's over the head of seminarians It is written for The serious minded

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Christians. It's not just on law. It's on covenant. It's on doctrine. It's on justification

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It's on politics. It is a great little book and in many ways Easier to read than rush to me.

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In fact, those two men rushed to the embossed Have influenced me more than any other living human being

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And I can't recommend their books enough by this standard which is a

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Simplification I should say of his earlier book theonomy and Christian ethics

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So those are the kinds of books that I read when I was a brand -spanking -new pastor in the coalfields and Didn't get everybody everything right and I still don't

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But the things I learned then have stuck with me the rest of my life changed my ministry

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Changed my behavior Changed the way I think and look at the world and Late and you never stop being reformed if somebody comes to you and says well finally

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I'm reformed I Doubt if he really knows what he's talking about Because you never stop being reformed

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We when I think I'm reformed God shows me something else about thinking or my living that needs to be reformed by the

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Word of God So you're talking about Semper Reformata? I am assuming. Yes, sir And so,

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I mean, I was 78 years old and I'm still being in the process Being reformed by books by the

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Holy Spirit using books using the Bible Particularly but then using books as well there's something else that I've done throughout my life that has been very important to me in terms of books and that is and This is not that that usual.

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I read commentaries of books. I read I get a book on a comment on a commentary on the book of the

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Bible like let's say Genesis or Luke and Whether I'm preaching on them or not.

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I just read through the commentary Because I want to stay as close to the

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Bible as I could possibly stay. I Love what

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George Grant said if I can get it straight here He said I not only like to read the biographies of great man

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Christians I also want to read the books that they read that made them great

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Christians Very very wise counsel Yes, sir. It is.

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And so I want to stay as close to the Bible as I possibly can. So periodically

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I read books Commentaries on the Bible and one of the most

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One of the books that had the greatest impact on me a commentary Was a book that I took with me to South America.

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I was preaching in various countries in South America And of all things I took a commentary on the book of Leviticus with me

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This book was written in the 19th century by a man named Samuel Kellogg Presbyterian and I think

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I'm a missionary and it it's not set up like your normal Commentary it's it's like a book just reading a book chapter by chapter and So that was one of the most delicious books

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I've ever read the book of Leviticus you wouldn't think the

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Leviticus would be that exciting I taught a year -long study on Leviticus one time and the title of the study was most boring book in the

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Bible But of course I was being facetious If you could find the book,

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I don't know if it's still in print called the book of Leviticus I Samuel Kellogg It's well worth reading my reading of It all depends upon my reading come came in waves

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It all depend on what I was thinking about at the time Maybe I read an author that led me to somebody else

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Maybe I was preaching on a text and that led me to want to study just on my own

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The point the text is being made is making So my reading has come in waves.

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I don't read just one book at a time Right here by my chair. I have a stack of about ten books

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That I'm reading bits and pieces of all the time I Do love to read biographies and there have been some biographies

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That have had a great impact on me one of the first of all things was a biography of Patrick Henry He was this was years and years and years ago

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I Think it was a woman that wrote the biography and I think her name is

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Campbell. I'm not sure but It wasn't the book it was the man she was writing off That made such an impact upon me

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Patrick Henry is one of the great men in American history a devout

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Calvinist and In fact, most people don't realize and I I love to ask people from Illinois Who the first governor of Illinois was?

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His portraits in the rotunda the capital and of course, they don't know and So I take great delight in telling them it was

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Patrick Henry The Patrick Henry was the governor of Illinois when

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Illinois was a county in Virginia But if you can read a biography of Patrick Henry, I mean

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He it wasn't until the last minute That he was even for the

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United States Constitution he there were three things about the

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United States Constitution that he didn't like and Did not endorse it till right toward the end right before its final ratification and Patrick Henry said the three things that are wrong about the

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United States Constitution are number one they destroy The independence and sovereignty of the states number two

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They provide for a Wrong use of taxation by the federal government and three

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They provide for an imperial judiciary the Supreme Court That will overpower all the other branches of government and then he said

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This was in 1780s or earlier than that then he said and if we

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Passed this Constitution as it is written today these colonies

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Within less than a hundred years will be torn apart in Civil War and it was the three

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Criticisms of Patrick Henry of the United States Constitution That the

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Confederate States of America fixed in the Constitution of 1861 so the

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Constitution of the Confederate States in 1861 is even a better Constitution than the

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United States Constitution. And in fact, most people don't realize That the

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Constitution of 1861 of the Confederate States outlawed the slave trade Which leads me to the title of a book that's important that's called the

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Macaria Was so great That many

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Union generals would not allow their soldiers to read that book

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Because it would depress them when they realized what are we doing Invading such a

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Christian culture Wow But the point is that they're all thoroughly

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Christian. I'll give you an example of her attitude She wrote in Macaria She wrote about this.

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There were two young women One was a young southern woman who was a very godly

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The other was a young woman her cousin From New York who was not a Christian.

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She was an artist and she was obsessed with art and the problem is that the godly young woman from the south and the young artist from the north

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Were both in love with the same Confederate lieutenant And Being from the south

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Catfight catfight. No, I'm sorry. Yeah, I know it. I know it and of course

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Being from the south the southern woman Could not talk much about her feelings to her cousin

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Once she knew her cousin was in love with the same man. Well, the young lieutenant gets killed and Macaria is heartbroken

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And grieves deeply and The young artist from New York is

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Shattered since she's not a Christian. She's completely without hope and so Augusta Jane the author

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Distinguishes the two She said the reason that the cousin from the south was heartbroken, but not shattered and The reason the young artist from New York was shattered without hope

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Is because the young artist did not know the closer you stand

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To the hand that holds the rod the lighter the blows well

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That's what one of the best sentences I've ever read And Augusta Jane Evans is her name

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Some people have republished her books. You can find her books a lot of used bookstores

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But she's well worth searching out and in the early days of the 19th century the two most popular authors were the

01:20:28

Scottish Walter Walter Scott and The southerner by Walter Sir Walter Scott's worth of reading to But and a southern author by the name of William Gilmore Sims S -I -M -S

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Most people today haven't heard of him. He wrote several books. He was very popular in the early 1800s

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See if you can find anything by him William Gilmore Sims Especially his biography of Captain John Smith of Jamestown, Maine Captain John Smith one of my heroes of all times and I think the best the best biography of Captain John Smith is by William Gilmore Sims.

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It makes John Smith come alive Well, we have a couple of Listeners with questions for you

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Stephen Nichols on his podcast has been asking guests If they're on a desert island and have the holy scriptures with them and could have five other books with them what would what would those books be and He wants to know what you would choose

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If you were stranded on a desert Well, my answer would be

01:22:28

Yeah, my answer would be how to get off a desert island volumes one two, three four and five

01:22:35

That is good, that's the best answer I've heard in a long time That is very good

01:22:45

Yeah, but you you really aren't gonna answer that book another book, but oh, excuse me, go ahead you're not gonna answer his question

01:22:52

I am not no I think that's the first time you ever said that All right,

01:23:01

Grady. Well, you could at least Gather from dr. Moore crafts interview today that five of the books that he is listing would likely be among them

01:23:11

Yeah, so but thanks for listening brother and thanks for sending in the question Go ahead, brother

01:23:19

You have another person the question. Oh, yes, we do. We have Ted in Moundeville, Alabama But dr

01:23:26

Moore craft be willing to identify any books that were popular with the general public or with pastors in general

01:23:34

That he thinks were overrated or even harmful Yes, many

01:23:43

Would be my answer to that particularly today I Mean if it would probably be easier to narrow down if if these books exist and Are popular amongst reformed readers?

01:23:57

Do you know any that you care to mention? That is a very good question

01:24:03

I Haven't thought about it much, but I'll think about it as our evening goes on and hopefully

01:24:09

I'll think of something Well immediately what comes to mind as far as very popular and dangerous books

01:24:17

Nearly anything written by Rick Warren You know, I was just thinking of him just now

01:24:23

Because he said on a Facebook Page just a day that he has taught 1 million men trained them for the ministry

01:24:34

Yes, I saw that as well. That was from a speech at the recent Southern Baptist Convention General Assembly, and so I was thinking the same thing and you can see now why the

01:24:45

Christian Church is what it is Yeah And also,

01:24:51

I'm sure you would probably agree, but I have to say as much as you and I may disagree with a lot of the content of this book

01:25:02

I Know that God has used it nonetheless to lead people to Christ because I even know theologically reformed people

01:25:13

Who are? Post -millennial or on millennial today who came to Christ through reading the late great planet

01:25:22

Earth and Obviously that I mean

01:25:27

I'm saying that God used that book in spite of The very seriously flawed content and that's by Hal Lindsay and that that really created

01:25:39

You know, it created a firestorm of interest in Christianity and eschatology even though it was a bad and is a bad book.

01:25:52

Oh I mean, I read it one time and believed it But in the in the 1980s, he wrote another book called wrote the

01:25:59

Holocaust Yeah in which he gave the names of the men that are going to lead

01:26:05

America and Israel the global disaster in Armageddon And if you turn to about a page 30, there's my name

01:26:14

So I'm one of the people who bring America and Israel a global disaster, I've never met the guy but as a

01:26:22

Result of his writing that book There was a young woman that visited our church

01:26:28

She went to a fundamentalist Baptist Church. They loved how Lindsay there and She never thought she'd be able to ever meet one of the

01:26:37

Antichrist So she comes to our church just out of curiosity and stays for 25 years and So I wrote a review of how

01:26:51

Lindsay's book and the title of it was Thank you. Hal Lindsay If you had not said what you said about me, we never would have met

01:27:00

Jennifer Clint And by the way Somebody that has been a friend of mine for decades

01:27:09

Even though we have Parted company on a number of serious theological issues but Steve Schlissel In 1990 wrote a response to the book that we just mentioned that you just mentioned by Hal Lindsay And this response was called

01:27:33

Hal Lindsay and the restoration of the Jews by Steve Schlissel Yes sir, that's good I still consider him a friend.

01:27:41

I disagree with him tremendously, but I recommend to people three lectures on Facebook that he gave three parts to them.

01:27:53

They're the only lectures or sermons on the subject I know of They are feisty because that's

01:28:02

Steve But they are three exegetical sermons proving that tattooing is unbiblical

01:28:13

I Remember that years ago. In fact, I think it was the 1990s that he gave that lecture that very very good

01:28:23

I just thought of another book that I Have God saved me when

01:28:29

I was 11 and Then he called me to preach somewhere when I was 12 years old and not many years after that I could remember reading a book.

01:28:40

I didn't know was reformed. I Didn't know there was any such thing as reformed

01:28:46

But that book has stayed with me ever since and It's called the soul winner

01:28:53

Charles Spurgeon Yes, and I would recommend anybody get that book

01:29:00

I've read many books by Spurgeon as Have most of our friends

01:29:05

That love the reformed faith one of my favorite books by him is a book called

01:29:14

Oh, I've forgotten the name preachers Not irrational

01:29:20

Oh While you're thinking I'm going to give our listeners our email address again

01:29:27

It's Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. See HR is a RN z en

01:29:34

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01:29:40

On books of a certain category or on any book. He's already mentioned Whatever your question may be regarding the best in Christian literature

01:29:50

Send your question to Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Are you talking about? lectures to my students

01:29:56

No, it's a short little book, but wasn't published until Long after his death because everybody was afraid to do it

01:30:04

It's about preachers That are not completely balanced and that they have various things about their personality little quirks and that He goes through history and he shows that the great preachers that God used none of them were balanced.

01:30:27

They all had quirks and little things about their personality I took great encouragement by the book, but I'll think of it as time goes on Well, let's go.

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Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen if you just tuned us in our guest for the entire program today has been

01:43:59

Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III who is an author and a pastor at Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia We are discussing books that changed his life and if you could

01:44:12

Provide for us some more recommendations of books that meant so much to you that you would actually categorize them as life -changing

01:44:21

I'll follow the name of this version book. It's called eccentric creatures It's just a small little book

01:44:28

But it's basically entertaining I'll read it again just to be entertained as they

01:44:35

As you see the humanity of the great man that God has used through the years so spinning almost anything by Spurgeon is

01:44:46

Well worth reading and studying. There's two historical books. I think we ought not to be

01:44:53

So Concerned with Reading what everybody's reading today.

01:44:59

In fact what everybody's reading today. It's not that great But we should read the books that God has used in history past and I'm thinking of two

01:45:10

That if I were to pick them up right now They would have as much influence on me as they did when

01:45:18

I first read them decades ago and the first is Confessions by Augustine Augustine lived in the 5th century.

01:45:29

I don't know of any Christians since New Testament times That can speak of God as Augustine could speak of him

01:45:37

Confessions is a book that he wrote. It still sells by the thousands every year ever since he wrote it and it's a book simply a prayer and He's confessing his love for an adoration of the

01:45:52

Living God In terms that just thrill me says things the way he says things

01:45:57

Like for instance the famous sentence Oh Lord, you have made this for yourself and our hearts are restless

01:46:05

Until they rest in you And he just says great things like that over and over and of course the other was written 500 years ago by Calvin Institutes of the

01:46:19

Christian religion when he first wrote the first edition of it he was in his 20s and it was one volume long and Then he continued to advance it and expand upon it till his death many many years later and He knew

01:46:36

God The way very few people know God So I don't want to exclude those two men those had

01:46:45

Continuing impact upon me this very day Augustine confessions and Calvin's Institute's the

01:46:52

Christian religion There is another couple books that I Can't leave out

01:46:59

Because they had such an influence on my understanding of the future when

01:47:06

I first became a pastor in a little church in an Appalachic Mountains, I Wanted to preach through the book of Revelation from the

01:47:15

Greek text So I preached was into it and I realized

01:47:20

I cannot continue to preach On Revelation unless I manipulate the text

01:47:27

Because what I thought Revelation taught is not what it's teaching. So I quit and Then several years later when

01:47:36

I went to my second church, I decided well, I'm gonna try it again Want to try to teach the book of Revelation from the

01:47:45

Greek? So I get a little farther But then I tell the people that I have to quit because if I'm going to continue teaching the book of Revelation based upon my

01:47:58

Presuppositions of what it says I'm gonna have to manipulate the text so I quit again and Then the third pastor that I was in in Bristol, Tennessee after having read two or three books

01:48:12

I Said decided I was going to preach through the book of Revelation and I got all the way through at this time because of the influence of two books on my thinking a great influence

01:48:28

One was by a man named Marcellus kick Kik and It's called eschatology of victory.

01:48:37

Yes. In fact, I was With a friend recently at Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service and She was actually looking for that very book.

01:48:48

Oh, it is so great. It's a paperback after a very short too short introduction

01:48:55

There are two main sections the first section is an exposition of Matthew 24 and the second section is an exposition of Mac of Revelation 20

01:49:09

So it was that book eschatology of victory that started changing all of my thinking about the future and Then there was another one called the

01:49:19

Puritan hope By Ian Murray. Yeah was simply on the the

01:49:26

Puritans view of the future and the Puritans hope for the future and So I saw in those two books something

01:49:36

I had missed being raised in a fundamentalist situation and that is the mism of the

01:49:47

Bible for the future and that is the the victory orientation of the kingdom of God so those two books

01:49:57

I Haven't read them in years, but if I pick them up now and read them again, they thrill me. I'm sure eschatology of victory by Marcellus kick and Ian Murray the

01:50:10

Puritan hope are two books that I would highly recommend to you By the way, our friend

01:50:16

Grady sends in another Not a question, but a recommendation.

01:50:22

He says tell dr. Moorcraft. He needs to write a book with his book recommendations

01:50:28

Yeah, that would be fun Yeah, why that's be a great idea and you can even call it books that change your life

01:50:37

Yes, sir. I just read some Recently that have been very influential on me one by a

01:50:46

Greek Frenchman named beer to a Very good book.

01:50:52

I can't remember the title And then the other I read with the life of Charles Hodge Charles Hodge Was the great professor of systematic theology of Princeton in the early and middle 1800s in fact his three volumes of systematic theology were the very first ones

01:51:15

I ever owned and the first ones I ever read and I've never read a biography of him

01:51:23

So I found this biography by his son a a Hodge Who succeeded him?

01:51:30

At Princeton and I'll tell you that was a great man, too. I mean one thing about reading the biography of godly men and about reading the writings of godly men is

01:51:43

Like the Bible they humble you if they they show

01:51:49

Just how superior? They are in spirituality and in understanding of the

01:51:56

Word of God to where we are today, we're basically Theologically and biblically illiterate

01:52:04

Compared to the massive studies of These great men that I've just mentioned

01:52:11

We have CJ and Lindenhurst from Long Island, New York Who asks has a book ever?

01:52:18

radically influenced your life and Thinking in an unexpected way because the book was written by someone who is not in your own theological camp

01:52:31

Now that's a good question, too and I'm sure there have been let me let me think about it here for a second

01:52:44

While you're thinking I'm gonna repeat our email address again Chris Arnzen at gmail .com See HR is a

01:52:51

RNZ and gmail .com and we're running out of time quickly So, please if you have a question send it in immediately

01:52:59

Well, I can't think of any books But that is a good question, and I'm sure there have been

01:53:04

I don't do not read only reformed literature I don't want to leave that impression That I read literature from all kinds of viewpoints

01:53:15

But where I spend my most time Outside the Bible is

01:53:21

With the writers of the reformed faith because to me They come closer to the scripture than anybody else.

01:53:29

I know Well, basically Unless we have time to read another question that may come in after you finished answering my current

01:53:43

Question well, it's not really a question. It's a request. Please summarize What you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today regarding?

01:53:53

Good solid theologically sound Christian books. We must

01:53:58

The way the book of 2nd Peter I'm preaching through 2nd Peter right now The way it ends is that we're to grow in grace and in the knowledge of the

01:54:09

Lord Jesus Christ So the Christians are never stagnant the word disciple means learner in Greek and when we quit learning we're no longer disciple and So a

01:54:24

Christian is going to continue to learn and never be satisfied With not only his own spirituality, but he's never going to be satisfied with what he knows

01:54:37

He always wants to know more and learn more about the Living God and about Jesus Christ and about the great truths of Scripture and That's one of the exciting things

01:54:50

About Bible study and reading great books is you never get to the bottom of the well

01:54:56

There's always wonderful water there to drink. It never is dry. It's not shallow.

01:55:02

It's deep Artesian well one time when I was a very very young man in college

01:55:08

I went to an American Baptist Church, which was liberal in West, Virginia and The preacher took me under his wing because he figured since I was presbytery and I was bound to be as liberal as he was

01:55:22

So we were talking in his study one time. He'd been a pastor for six years and he says

01:55:28

Joe, I'm leaving the ministry and I said why he said because I've run out of things to preach on Well, I don't see how in the world you can do that and so a

01:55:40

Christian is never satisfied with what he knows and Is always like wanting to learn more hear more sermons read more books

01:55:52

Live in the Bible talk about the Bible to your brothers and sisters in Christ Amen we do have a listener question from Bobby in Hartsdale, New York One of my most beloved heroes of the faith was the late

01:56:12

James Montgomery Boyce and Throughout his ministry. He repeated a book that he highly recommended that was written by a non -christian a

01:56:24

Jewish author in fact named Neil Postman Called amusing ourselves to death public discourse in the age of show business

01:56:33

I was made I'd agree with him on that you would Yeah, that is a very very very important book

01:56:41

Because it helps you see the nature of our culture He doesn't have any answers

01:56:46

Neil Postman because he's not a Christian But God gave him some wisdom to be able to understand

01:56:54

What's happening in our culture just like another man named Richard Weaver wrote a book ideas have

01:57:00

Consequences that had a great impact on me and they depressed the book depressed me for two or three weeks

01:57:07

Because his analysis of American culture was made Francis Schaeffer's analysis just superficial

01:57:15

So I would recommend Neil Postman and I would recommend Richard Weaver in their analysis of what's wrong with American culture

01:57:24

Great. Well, let me repeat dr. Moore crafts website and I hope that any of you who are

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01:58:31

I would I would love it. Oh great. Well, let's see if we can arrange that for 2023

01:58:38

I would love it. Don't hold your breath, but I would Well, I want to thank you so much for being a superb guest as you always are

01:58:48

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01:58:55

That Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner Please tune in tomorrow as we have

01:59:01

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