The gospel faith and repentance

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Well, my name is Jeff Rice and I'm here with my good buddy Austin hammers and we plan to get on here and talk to you about the

Christian life and what Christians are to believe and how Christians are to think when it comes to subjects of the gospel subjects of justification sanctification and eternal life

Amen and just to keep that I I'm a simple thinker. I'm still learning a lot of this myself.

And basically we're gonna talk about what is Christianity? What what is it really? Biblically, so for all of you who have questions, maybe you've experienced things that don't really add up don't make sense to you

You feel that God's taking you on different direction direction Sorry for the animals We wish to explain to you what

Christianity really is and it's pierced from through the Word of God We meet in,

Tallahoma, Tennessee, and I have a good pleasure to fellowship and and Hang out with Austin doing some street preaching and he came to the church and he fellowshiped as a

Conference a as two believers with the congregation and we just had a good time and we get it off really well

And so we decided to come together and talk about talk talk about God in a in a format where?

Other people can listen to the conversation because me and Austin we we talk most every day

And when we do it's like one two -hour conversations And so we thought it'd be fun to record it and let everyone else listen in Absolutely, so and to be brutally clear as We're doing this

Jeff is making Bibles. So you're gonna have all kinds of sounds there. His family is home I'm sitting at my desk just wrapping up my workday and so this is typically when

I take a break and we get on the phone and We kind of both are doing our thing and talking.

So this will be a fun experience. I hope as we're developing this we'll make changes and we'll we'll try and make it as fun as possible because the reality of it is is

Christianity is freeing and We don't really believe in any right or wrong way Of doing something like this, so anyway enjoy

But Jeff today we I wanted to talk to you about the gospel if there's anything that matters it's the gospel and If there's one message every believer

Has to hear and should understand and be able to share with somebody. It's this wouldn't you agree?

Oh Whatever it is that you believe teach it has to be

Grounded rooted coming from The simple truth of what

God has done To reconcile to redeem to ransom a people for himself

Amen, and I mean exactly everything comes from this without this you have no root period

And that's um, that's something we can flush out deeper but first Jeff would you would you preach the gospel to me and anyone listening?

Yeah, well, so I think the most simple form of the gospel is definitely found In 1st

Corinthians chapter 15 and I'll read that in just a second But you know the word gospel means good news

And as we get into it, we'll see and understand that If we all lived in the world where there was only good news, then all we would have is news so by The word gospel being introduced.

We all have to understand that there is bad news And I think that's where Paul in 1st

Corinthians chapter 15 kind of Introduces it so if you look at verse 1 it immediately starts out now

I would remind you brothers. So he's speaking to brothers of the gospel. This is something that they know

It says I preach to you which you received in which you stand and Saved if you hold fast

To the word that I preached to you unless you believed in vain For I deliver to you as a first importance what

I also received that Christ Died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures

That he was buried Now that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures.

So you kind of see two things right here Developing in from the from the gospel that this is something by which you are saved you know

But that you're standing in it. You're saved. But also this is something that you're Being saved like the gospel is not only has not only saved you but it is saving

And so a lot of theological terms get thrown around sometimes you'll hear someone say the word justification

Someone you know, then you got sanctification and then you got glorification and the Bible will kind of say the same thing sometimes by using the word save So you'll say it'll say saved being saved to be saved.

I Think a real easy way to kind of understand. This is to understand justification sanctification and glorification

So justification is the The moment of salvation. This is when you are saved you are justified by What Christ has done?

But also Being saved is you're being sanctified sanctified

And I would argue that this also is because of what Christ has done as well as I would argue you're being saved

It's not something that you're doing but it's something that Christ has done And so the immediate question comes well, why do we need to be saved?

I remember There was some evangelists come to my door one time and I didn't know who

I was I didn't know who they were But they were just going around door -to -door

And at this time I was very cocky snarky just trying to challenge people Everyone I met

I'd ask them, you know, what's what's the gospel? And so they come up to my porch and they first thing that they asked me was

Hey, are you saved? And I turned around real quick kind of like spinning in a circle. I said from what?

Is somebody trying to stab me? Is someone trying to kill me? What do I need to be saved from?

And the guy really didn't know how to respond, you know, I kind of caught him off guard So I tried to slow the conversation down, but he still didn't know

What it is that I was supposed to be saved from And so the

Bible has this concept that That we have fallen in Adam We you know when

Adam fell all humanity fell and the earth became cursed

And so we are born in Adam Sinful and we prove that by sinning

So in sin the Bible says is lawlessness So whenever we sin the

Bible tells us this is what what's called breaking God's law So you have God has a moral law.

He has rules if I tell my kid not to Run in the house and five minutes later.

They're having a race and they're running in the house. Well, they broke my rules. They've sinned well

You know violating my rule isn't that bad You know,

I mean my kids might tell you it's pretty harsh, but but God's standard is higher than mine

God placed Adam in that garden and he said, you know, you can eat of any tree of the garden

But do not and I can just picture him saying look at me Adam. Do not Eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for the day that you eat of it.

You will surely die And also in this garden was the tree of life

So there's two trees Well, there's many trees, but the two main trees was a tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life

If Adam would have not eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

He could have eaten from the tree of life And if he had eaten from the tree of life, he would have earned life

For himself and for his posterity well He didn't keep the covenant that God gave him so he ate from this tree of knowledge of good and evil and God told him that the day that you do you will surely die and his death was being removed from the garden and not being able to eat of the tree of life the reward of keeping the covenant would have been eaten from the tree of life and Having eternal life

Adam did not Be Meet the qualification

He ate of the wrong tree and by doing so he fell was removed from the garden and by doing so he curses the whole

Earth and we have all fallen in him. We have been removed from the garden There is no tree of life for us to reach out and grab and eat

And so because of that God Made a standard he created a wall and gave it to to the

Hebrew people the Ten Commandments and we have all Fallen and we have all broken the standard

God's moral law do not Worship another God do not have any other gospel for me

Honor the Sabbath, I mean keep the Sabbath honor your father and mother do not lie

Still do not covet do not commit adultery all so on and so forth

And every one of us have broken these laws. And so because we have broken these laws we have

Committed treason against the king we are guilty of lawlessness of breaking God's rule and Again, God's standard is higher than mine

So I got my kids running around the house and I tell them not to yeah They'll get in trouble. But Adam ate of took one bite of a fruit and because of this bite from a fruit

Not only did he get removed from the garden But so did his posterity and now because of this one sin that he committed

Every child born is born under his curse and deserving of death

God's standard is high. And so we might look in and say well lion is not bad. Well, it is to God Lion is horrible to God.

It's it's it's awful. We don't need to do it. It's it's violating his covenant

It it's it's breaking his rules and Because his standard is so high.

The Bible says that every liar will find their part in the lake that burns with fire

And so just From lying whether it be to your mother to your teacher to your father to your friend to your boss

We deserve To be punished we deserve death and that's what the

Bible teaches that The wages of sin is death. So if sin is breaking God's law and Our reward our paycheck for breaking

God's law is death So because we have broken God's law so that sins will die

So if you ever wonder why people die, it's because all of all have fallen short of the glory of God we sin

Because we sin we will die that our death is God's paycheck for what we've earned in life

But not only do we deserve death we deserve Punishment we deserve to be exiled

Completely out of the realm of where God is and that this place of punishment is a place called hell

And this is where we all deserve to go but the moment that Adam fell

God God in a promise of a curse actually blesses the

People he tells the serpent that From the woman will come an offspring who would

Actually bruise his head while only bruising his heel So we see this as the first proclamation of the gospel that someone was going to come and defeat the dragon that's that that persuaded his way into the life of The first creation and so we believe that this is

Jesus we believe that when Jesus Died on the cross that this was him bruising the head of that snake

While only bruising his heel before we even get there. We need to understand

The implications that go around that how how is it that That someone named

Jesus born of the woman under the law Is able to accomplish such a great task

Right, I think that's the the main question when it comes to the gospel how how it did this

Jesus character Meet the requirements of being this snake crusher.

I agree Yeah, who was Jesus and why he's so significant to the gospel because didn't he preach the gospel?

What is the gospel And I said in a simple You know to the shortest summation of the gospel is 1st

Corinthians chapter 15, but an actual shorter summation It's Jesus.

Jesus is the gospel. He is the good news. He is that the prototype, you know, he's the one that was prophesied as the curse to the

Serpent, but the blessing to us that that through him. He was going to remove the bite from the apple

He was going to uncurse the earth Like in our text it says that he died for our sins so he died

For you know, we broke God's law He came and he paid our fine. He he is the propitiation

So the word propitiation It actually means in layman's term a payment for wrongdoing

And I give us a little analogy my daughter who is 11 and has a soccer ball and a net and the net is probably about 20 feet over from my neighbor's window and 20 feet back

And she Could and she could if she tried hard enough was to kick that ball.

She could hit that window And if she broke the window, well, someone has to pay for the window

Her being 11, she don't have a job. She can't pay for the window. This is a fine that she cannot pay

And so me being daddy has to reach into my pocket and pay what she owes and that is a window

And so let's say a window these days is 80 to 100 bucks. You don't have it I reach into my pocket grab the money pay for the window that money is the propitiation.

It's the payment for her wrongdoing All right, well we need a payment for our own wrongdoing we need someone to pay our fine

And so God reaches into his eternal pocket And he and he sends his son

Jesus Christ who is God himself the first John excuse me, the gospel of John tells us that in the beginning was

The word and the word was with God and the word was God and that Everything that was created was created through this word that was with God and was

God and in verse 14. It tells us that this This word that was with God and was

God became flesh And then we find out in verse 18 of that same chapter that that no one has ever seen

God Speaking of the father but the only God speaking of that word who was the son Has come to reveal him to make him known to explain him

And so Jesus comes to explain it to us who God actually is

So in doing so he becomes the payment for our wrongdoing But we also have the concept of what

John sees we have John the Baptist And I hate to keep bouncing around but I'll eventually bring it back together

John the Baptist sees Jesus coming from a distance Before this he has people asking him is you know?

Questioning why is he baptizing? Asking if he's the Christ, you know, if you're not the

Christ, why are you baptizing? He made a statement that he's a voice crying out in the wilderness preparing the way for the

Lord making straightest path And he pronounces a curse on them saying I see you Pharisees and Sadducees you come down to the waters of Jordan You brood of vipers

Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come speaking of? You know, they have broken God's law and wrath is coming

This is even now the axe is at the root of the tree them being the tree the Jewish people being the tree

He says the axe is at the root of the tree and that And then he also says that that But this one that's coming

These sandals that he's unworthy to carry will baptize with Holy Spirit and fire that fire be in judgment and so But in John he sees

Jesus coming toward him and he says behold the Lamb of God it takes away the sins of the world This pointing us back to the

Paschal Lamb but in order for you know, like when the

Jews exited from From Egypt they had to take a lamb and they had to put the blood on the doorpost and on the mantle

And this was going to be a sign for them And as the angel comes through that this angel was going to kill the firstborn of all

Who do not have the firstborn of male of all who do not have this blood on the door?

So none of the Egyptians during this time of slavery had the blood of the lamb on the door The death angel comes through he kills the firstborn

Unless they had this blood of the lamb on their door John sees Jesus and he says that's them

That's the lamb that will be slain for the foundation, I mean, that's the lamb that will be

Slain for the sins of the world So we have this idea now That there's going to be a lamb that's going to be slain

For all the sins of the world, but in order to be a lamb that's slain The Bible is clear that the lamb has to be perfect.

It has to be spotless so in our text it says that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures that speaking

Specifically of his passive obedience. This is something that happens to him Christ did not kill himself

Him dying being nailed hands and feet to a Roman cross and dying dying at death was something that was done to him.

So this is Christ Passive obedience because he could have stopped him.

He's God, right? So he could have stopped him but in his passive obedience He allows them to to kill him to crucify him and the

Bible says that this was done for our sins but that You know in order to meet that condition you have to be perfect.

You have to be spotless And that's where it's active obedience comes in So Jesus Christ when he came into the world, this is this

God man. This God in man is It's What the theologians call the hypostatic union that Jesus is both

God and man truly God truly man because it took Jesus being truly

God to Reconcile man to God, but it took Jesus being truly man to die for men because God cannot die so in order for this to take place

Jesus had to live a Perfect life is in his active obedience. He had to live the life that we could not live

That's keeping God's commandments perfectly loving God loving neighbor perfectly

And because he has done That because he has kept that covenant

He is the spotless lamb. He is what John saw the lamb that would take away the sins of the world

So Jesus did not live the perfect life he could not die the death in our place

Does it make sense? Absolutely, which brings in the third part that he raised on the third day

Yeah So we have him dying for our sins why because he lived a perfect life

He was buried and he rose on the third day speaking of the resurrection of Jesus Christ And this is the the hinge upon Christianity, you know, if this isn't true, then nothing's true

And so we just So that so the resurrection is the comfort the resurrection is

Is is what you believe in order to become Christian? Thank the

Bible lays it out very very carefully when it speaks about And how someone how does someone go from being in Adam to being in Christ and Jesus gives parables, but Romans chapter 9 verse 10

Excuse me. Romans 10 verse 8 9 tells us that if we let me turn there so I don't just aimlessly quote it and if you ever want man, you can always

You can always shout out a verse I'll type it in since I'm on the computer and I can I Can read it aloud if that ever helps you out?

So it's just Romans chapter 10 And I'm beginning in verse 9 it says because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is

Lord and Believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead You will be saved

For with the heart one believes and is justified and with his mouth one confesses

And is saved now two things happen there Notice with me. It says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is

Lord, that's one thing The second thing and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead

And also, you know, just as well as I do we're living in a world where most everyone says that they're

Christian and They can point back to some time that you know, they walked an hour shook a hand signed a card prayed a prayer

Repeated something after someone To to which they called upon the name of the

Lord Right, oh absolutely Then they might have fallen away and because of that we have this idea that a man could lose their salvation well

The Bible is clear right here. It says that you also have to believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead

Well, how important is the resurrection? Well, if you do not believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead

Calling upon his name does nothing millions and billions of people have called upon the name of the

Lord And it did nothing You have to truly believe the scientific impossibility

That Jesus Christ rose from the dead that he was crucified hands and feet to a

Roman cross That when he was that he was literally beat with a cat of nine tails beard ripped out crown of thorns on his head nails

Nailed hands and feet to a Roman cross speared in the side horrible, horrible beaten crushed by God dies

Buried for three days and he comes out the team like this is something that really happened

Like what like there's no denying it Yeah, it's not like it was just some spirit or ghost.

It was it was physical Jesus Right, right And so Christianity hinges upon the fact that this actually happened and if you don't truly believe that it happened

Something I mean listen, this is a scientific impossibility things like this don't happen

But if you don't believe that this happened, you're not a Christian and that's why faith is so important because That's Austin, you know just as well as I do

We just don't believe people crawl about the grave and live and then go up into heaven. No, absolutely.

Absolutely not I mean, I I would argue scripture even shows us that that faith in itself is a gift from God correct

And so we're not born with this kind of faith to believe that something like that I mean the idea is this is that as Christ was on the cross

That the wrath of God that we deserve you deserve. I might deserve it more than you Fell on Jesus.

So this is where the gospel comes together You know you and I we've broken God's law every day

Jesus been the propitiation God paying our flying the the raft that we deserve. How did he pay our flying?

It fell on Jesus the mercy that we don't deserve comes to us how by two things and We'll probably walk through these two things by faith and repentance by believing and trusting

And what Jesus Christ has done for us. Absolutely. I'm turning from ourself to God and believing what

Jesus Christ has done That it actually was done for us

Amen No, you're good,

I mean I took in different directions it doesn't matter I mean that was solid Yeah, we'll just roll let's just roll right into it man,

I mean being that faith and repentance is the pillar on which our belief is right because as we were discussing the supernatural impossibility of a man really walking out of the grave after taking such a beating and I mean dead dead and But yet he's alive

Right. And so how do you believe in such a thing? Like I hear the joke all the time zombie Jesus day You know, it's it's a mockery in our society

Yeah, and this is exactly why because it is a gift to even have faith in that in the first place to understand the holiness of that the glory of that so it's and these are things that That come from a gift of God because how else would

I have the understanding? So it's we're no different than the

Atheist when it comes to natural logic No, we don't believe that people can and just walk out the grave

Absolutely. The Atheist is no different from us to when it comes to natural logic when it comes to it takes something to create

Correct, which is which is why the question of morality is so dangerous For the

Atheist, so it but yeah, but if so, let's let's start with faith Jeff. I think that um,

I Think we'll see how this goes. If anything, we'll cut this into two episodes Both episodes will be available on the same day

But if you don't have time to listen to a whole thing, I'm not good at pausing and remembering where I left off So I'll just start another episode for the next two we're already at We're at 30 minutes now.

So yeah, that'll be fair a 30 minute episode and a 20 minute episode but So, yeah, go ahead and define faith

Yes, I would say that everyone works in the realm of faith You know you get into your car you're driving and you're coming to a red light you hit your brakes

There's a certain Faith that we have in us to trust that our vehicle that's going 50 miles an hour

Or You know if you drive slow Sorry for you, but or if you drive fast

You know that that the brakes are going to stop, right? There's a certain amount of faith there that we have in the vehicle

There's a certain amount of faith that we have when we go into a restaurant Ordering food trusting they didn't spit in our food

There's a certain amount of faith that I have in my chair when I sit down And I and I say that it's faith, you know, my chair has four legs

The car has brakes. I Believe at the restaurant that I mean that has good honest people working there

That's not gonna spit in my food. And plus I'm not one of these guys that are out there Arguing with everybody making enemies and all that stuff

So I feel like there's a certain faith that I have a certain trust factor that I have in certain things

Absolutely. I'd agree with that Yeah, but when it comes to the this kind of faith it's different so if you just take that chair analogy, you know that the chair has four legs as a you know, you know every time that I've said it before it's held me

I Have faith that it's gonna hold me, you know a hundred times hundred more times.

I sit in it, but but there's a Faith for me when I've been my knees and to relax into that chair that it doesn't collapse well faith in Jesus being that The resurrection that it's something that's impossible

Scientifically impossible what people don't rise from the dead, but yet I'm saying that this actually happened it

It's basically like Telling someone to sit in a chair, but there is no chair

Like there's no evidence of the chair But I'm telling them no no the chair is here and Actually, the chair is there

I just can't see the chair and that's how the idea of the

Christian faith is is that Unless you're given faith to believe you cannot believe

And so whenever we whenever we're talking about Christian faith We're not talking about the faith that it takes to sit in to sit in chairs or to hit the gas

Hit the brake pedal or to trust someone's not spitting your food Yeah, it's because totally different.

Yeah, it's totally different, right? But yet my faith in Christ And what took place is stronger than any faith that I've ever had and it's something that I didn't conjure up within myself

It's something that was given to me when I heard about the gospel when I heard the gospel of Jesus Christ I went from not believing

To believing and nothing could change my mind Amen, it's something that's outside of myself.

Jesus made it clear to Nicodemus Nicodemus said to him He said that we know that yeah, but you're a teacher from God or something something of that sort and Jesus stops him in his tracks and he says

Unless you're born again. You cannot even see the kingdom of heaven Basically, how do you know that I'm from God when you can't even see the kingdom of heaven

You can't even see the chair. How do you know you can sit in it? You can't see it

But and I'm saying that when God gave me faith I could see the chair But no one else around me can see the chair and that's what

Christian faith is And so I understand why people don't don't believe because they can't see the chair.

They can't see the kingdom of God Amen, that's why it's so important that the gospel message be preached because no one can see it

Unless first they're born again Amen, Romans 10 17 is trusting that what

Jesus Christ did on that cross There's with his life death burial resurrection and ascension.

He'd done that for you And nothing can change that. Amen, and I mean scripture backs all of this.

I mean I maybe I'll try and take the time and pull up all the scripture scripture references and I'll put it in the description where you can walk

Through this yourself in the Bible But I promise all this is in there and Scripture commands us to do our own due diligence as well.

So if you if you disagree with any of these points we embrace that We're not gonna agree with you, but we would love to hear you out

So if you would like to have a real discussion about it There will be an email in the description and we will do our due diligence and not only respecting your question

But giving you a thought -out answer That we don't have in ourselves

Well, the Bible says the same thing you're saved by grace through faith and that is not of yourself

The nearest ant is seated to that. It's not of yourself. It's faith You cannot produce faith in yourself you don't wake up and decide to believe

Believing is something that happens to you You go from not believing to believing that there's no other way to explain it because the thing

What it is that we have to believe we have to believe that Jesus is the

Christ that that the the infinite became finite that the creator of all things entered into creation and then he paid the fine that I couldn't pay by Living the perfect life and dying a death in my place as a substitute

Amen So, let me ask you this couldn't couldn't

I just simply you know Kind of like what we were talking about earlier with the sinner's prayer. I mean couldn't we just walk through John 3 16 and Call on the name of the

Lord What you could yes You explain it.

I mean But just telling someone that that God loves them and to believe in Jesus.

I Don't think that that does it because I mean there's guys, you know, there's a

Hispanic guy You know Fred Meyers like my friend he always likes to say there's a friend

There's an Hispanic guy that lives in his neighborhood named Fred Meyer. I'm afraid it works at Fred Meyers name.

His name is Jose Jesus Which is Jesus is you know, is that the

Jesus I'm to believe in? Or you got the Mormons have their own Jesus and Muslims got a

Jesus Jehovah's Witnesses have a Jesus and so it you know, just tell him that you know

God loves him and he sent his son. He was Jesus. I think you have to go Who is

Jesus and then, you know the context of Of John 3 16,

I mean John 3 16 is speaking of the Covenant of Redemption I mean first it says for God well

If you if you're looking at it in Christian theology, there's one God three persons

Because for God so loved the world. Okay, is this the father the son of the Holy Spirit that he sent his only son?

So we know that it's the father because he sent his son And it says that he sent his son this pointing back to the

Covenant of Redemption that God purposed to save a people and That he sent his son to accomplish the purpose and that the

Holy Spirit would apply the purpose So we have for God so loved the world the word world there doesn't mean every single human being

As a matter of fact, the Greek word is Cosmo. It just means all of Earth for God so loved the earth

Adam cursed the earth. God is uncursing the earth how by sending his son

But then it says that whoever believes in him meaning not just the Jews red yellow black or white

We're precious in the sight, right? So whoever believes in him in this Cosmo in this world that has been cursed

It's going to be uncursed Will not perish where Paris needs to be destroyed, but we'll have eternal life eternal life

Mean meaning that you will never die Yeah, right amen and and I mean

And the core understanding that needs to be there is the the who the the who is the resurrected

Yeah, the resurrected the glorious the glorified Sits at the right hand. The world is becoming his footstool

Jesus Yeah, the gospel the death very Excuse me The life death burial and resurrection of Jesus has to be articulated in order for anyone to be saved

Amen, and that you cannot believe that that God sent his son and if you believe in him

You have to believe in his life death burial resurrection Was done for you.

He accomplished this one act in history for you That's what you have to believe right and I mean in the

Great Commission, too It's not just about it's not just about going out and convincing people. It's about discipling them

Doing life with them teaching them, right? I mean, so it's I completely get what you're saying that John 316 could be a great tool to have a beautiful gospel discussion

But it in itself is not enough Yeah, it's just like how I just broke it down to you

Redemption like I can take it John 316 preach the gospel from it, but Events, you know the

Lord could say someone but if I just read John 316 It's not explaining the gospel nothing could

God use that in their life as they see Yes, absolutely

But they have to believe The gospel If we don't get to the gospel

Then it don't make sense. Amen Yeah, because says who Yeah, right

This is beautiful. All right, so let me ask you another question. This will be the last one Can you can you define repentance?

And if you don't mind, could you go ahead and for those who might be catching the second episode before they caught the first?

You know, I encourage you to go back But if if not, then can you give us a summary as to why we're speaking on repentance

Jeff? Yeah, so repentance is one of the two things required for someone to be saved so First let's look back at it as as you know

Let's just say That I was very very rich and and I gave you a house

And I said, you know the requirements of you staying in the house says you got to give me $1 ,000 a month

Now that might sound high in some places, but you're living in the neighborhood. That's two thousand a month. So $1 ,000 a month is very gracious Well, so that money is what is required of you to live in the house

Okay, but let's say That I require that of you, but I also give you the money

To pay me and that's what we're talking about when it comes to faith and repentance

Faith and repentance are the two things required for salvation And I take the position that faith is the gift of God and that repentance is given to those

It's granted to those Who have faith in Christ and it's also what

Has to happen like it. It's what it's what's required of us to be saved

So faith is trusting in Jesus Christ, but trusting that he is the payment for your salvation

All right. So the idea of repentance is especially in our day and time and it's been it's been

I mean because it's Okay, so there's a difference between Justification repentance versus Repentance and sanctification all right, so biblical repentance salvificly for the

You know for a person to be saved they must have faith and repentance

My argument is that that repentance is not stop sinning

Okay, I know that might be shocking to some people no, but I but I agree in other words you can't become perfect Yeah.

Yeah Reason being is Yes, that is the quality

You know if that's what God requires then no one becomes a Christian All right, first John is very clear.

It tells us not to sin It tells us what to do when we sin let's confess our sins it tells us

You know to never say we have not sinned and don't say that you never seen or have not sinning it's very clear and then it says that when we do sin we have an advocate and We need to understand that Jesus paid our fine.

He is our propitiation Right in other words ever this side of heaven are going to be perfect So it's not sinning period was a qualification for being a

Christian no one's a Christian So is it fair to say that? Like I love your expression sinning

Saints It's we we know we're sinning and to lie about our sin to say we're not sinning is the problem

But to to know you're sinning and actively working against it, you know acknowledging it's there

And taking that moment to reflect on it that is that a fair summary? repentance Well, I would say this so so After Jesus died very rose again

The apostles received the Holy Spirit There they're preaching. He To a group of Jews who've traveled because of the festival

He preaches the gospel in verse 36. He says this Acts chapter p36

It says let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him speaking of both

Lord and Christ This is Jesus whom you crucified Verse 37 says now when they heard this they were cut to the heart and they said to Peter and the

Apostles brothers What shall we do? Peter said to them repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus And the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the

Holy Spirit All right, so was that repentance stop sinning

And I would say no But what what I would say that repentance was was this group of Jews rejected

Jesus as Messiah Right And so their repentance would be to stop trusting in the sacrificial system

And to trust in what God has provided for them and that is the

Messiah Stop trusting in yourself. Stop trusting in Workspace righteousness stop trusting in the sacrificial system

But trust in what God has given you and that is Jesus. And so repentance would be

Them turning from self -righteousness turning from that sacrificial system Turning to God by putting faith in Christ So faith and repentance here is two sides of the same coin

Now am I saying that that we should continue to sin? No, absolutely not That's where sanctification repentance comes in and I believe that this also is a gift from God Amen, why else would you want to do it?

Yeah Yeah, absolutely, you know that as we're living out this Christian life God through his Holy Spirit and through the church is you know?

Through the means of grace is given us repentance. He's granting to us Repentance that leads to life that you know

But it still doesn't make us to where we actually stop sinning completely

Now there will come a day when we stop sinning. That's when we're glorified but the word repentance is the

Greek word metanoia it means to Change the way you think now picture this they believe that these

Jews at this time believe that their sins were forgiven through the Mosaic sacrificial system

Peter preaches the gospel lets them know clear that Jesus is the only way that our sins are forgiven they are to Stop rejecting

Jesus and receive Jesus and be baptized in his name speaking of Christian baptism

Alright That's what repentance is. That's that's how Vific repentance is that you turn from self -righteousness

You stop trusting in whatever system you believe in that's going to make you right with God And you turn to God by putting your faith in Jesus Christ, that's repentance so It's so good.

It's it's beautiful. I mean In an application for us as Christians. This is I mean, it's a form of worship

This is one of the few things that we get to acknowledge and be a part of With God on a regular basis, right?

I mean, it's is that fair to say Jeff? So it's I mean if you just take the idea that if it's anything else then we're preaching a workspace salvation anything else

God that the two things that God requires is faith and repentance and those two things are given to us and the reform

We like to say that not only do does Jesus faith us But he repents us

Because faith is the gift This is something that he has given to us and repentance is granted

It's done for it. He does this to us We don't have the power to to do this ourself where it brings to mind

Ephesians 2 10, you know by grace You haven't saved out of works.

So it's it's just more proof to the pudding. It's beautiful. I Putting myself in the shoes of a first -time listener and if that's you if this is really one of the first times you're hearing

About Christ feel free to write us any question you want We would love to have this discussion with you, but trying to put myself in those shoes

I think the next set of questions I would have is who is Jesus and How how do I how do

I identify Jesus when today he is called so many things So maybe that can be our next episode

Sounds good, but Jeff it is an absolute pleasure being on the phone with you and listening to you and Fill everybody in my intention is to move into this man's backyard

You can hear my family in the background we're very active lifestyle but we're gonna relocate to his area because it's one thing to talk about things like this and it's it's another to see them lived out and Covenant Reform Baptist Church is a beautiful part of the global expression that the church is and What I have found there is authentic fellowship and abiding in the vine and these are things we'll talk about later, but I Believe it's extremely important that you go to church.

And if you can't find a church that fits what you're looking for Settle, you know as long as you can agree on the closed -handed things settle and obey the word and do not forsake the congregation

Go and be a part. You have to be it's so crucial and and so I've been part of many beautiful churches

But this is the first where I found somebody who I really think can teach me And so if I ever say anything wrong in this podcast, it can be a lot of fun because Jeff gets to tear me up Harder than anybody else.

I'm a student so But we do this not to set some standard of this is what people need to do that's not the case here at all, but really we just want to provide content that has application for today things things that we can discuss and talk about Really regardless of denomination and if if your denomination disagrees with the things that we're talking about We that's a whole nother conversation

And we don't wanna Make fun or pick on we might pick on yeah

Hey on or you know Bring tension or be enemies. No, we're throwing no shade

There there is no shade being thrown and if we do make a joke and you're offended, please write us. We'll apologize

We'll even apologize openly if it makes you feel better. So but and that we're not above reproach either

So you feel free to throw any swings our way as well, especially our Presbyterian friends They're they are our brothers and sisters.

We love them to death. And if any of you guys want to cash aid we would embrace it Amen Functional family that is what the church is and if you find anything that is anything but that It'll be you better run because you'll mess it up But Jeff love you brother