The gospel faith and repentance

Hey, what's up?

Welcome to my two cents with Jeff Rice.

My name is Jeff and I just want to thank you for checking this out.

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Well, my name is Jeff Rice and I'm here with my good buddy Austin hammers and we plan to get on here and talk

to you about the Christian life and what Christians

are to believe and how Christians are to think when it comes to subjects of the gospel subjects of

justification sanctification and eternal life.

Amen and just to keep that I I'm a simple thinker.

I'm still learning a lot of this myself.

And basically we're gonna talk about what is Christianity?

What what is it really?

Biblically, so for all of you who have questions, maybe you've experienced things that Don't really add up

don't make sense to you.

You feel that God's taking you on a different direction direction.

Sorry for the animals.

We wish to explain to you what Christianity really is and it's pierced from through the Word

of God.

Man Austin we met on Facebook and we kind of come together and become real good friends.

I'm the pastor or one of the elders at the main teaching pastor of Covenant Reform Baptist Church.

We meet in Tallahamma, Tennessee, and I have a good pleasure to fellowship and and

Hang out with Austin doing some street preaching and he came to the church and he fellowshiped as a

Conference a as two believers with the congregation and we just had a good time and we get it off really well.

And so we decided to come together and talk about talk talk about God in a in a

format.

Where?

Other people can listen to the conversation because man, man Austin we we talk most every

day.

And when we do it's like one two -hour conversations.

Absolutely, so and to be brutally clear as We're doing this Jeff is

making Bibles.

So you're gonna have all kinds of sounds there.

His family is home I'm sitting at my desk just wrapping up my work day and so this is

typically when I take a break and we get on the phone and We kind of both are doing our thing and

talking.

So this will be a fun experience.

I hope As we're developing this we'll make changes and we'll we'll try and make it as fun as

possible because the reality of it is is Christianity is freeing and We don't really believe in any

right or wrong way Of doing something like this, so anyway

enjoy.

But Jeff today we I wanted to talk to you about the gospel if there's anything that matters it's the gospel and

If there's one message every believer Has to hear and should understand

and be able to share with somebody.

It's this wouldn't you agree?

Whatever it is that you believe teach it has to be

Grounded rooted coming from the simple truth of what

God has done.

To reconcile to redeem to ransom a people for himself.

Amen, and I mean exactly everything comes from this without this you have no root

period.

And that's um, that's something we can flush out deeper.

But first Jeff would you would you preach the gospel to me and anyone listening?

Yeah, well, so I think the most simple form of the gospel is definitely found

In 1st Corinthians chapter 15, and I'll read that in just a second.

But you know the word gospel means good news.

And as we get into it, we'll see and understand that If we all lived in the world where

there was only good news, then all we would have is news so by The word gospel

being introduced.

We all have to understand that there is bad news.

And I think that's where Paul in 1st Corinthians chapter 15 kind of Introduces

it.

So if you look at verse 1 it immediately starts out now, I would remind you brothers.

So he's speaking to brothers of the gospel.

This is something that they know.

He says I preach to you which you received in which you stand and by which

you are being saved.

If you hold fast to the word that I preached to you unless you believed in vain.

For I deliver to you as a first importance what I also received that Christ died

for our sins in accordance with the scriptures.

That he was buried.

You know that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures so you kind of see two things

right here.

Developing in from the from the gospel that but this is something by which you are

saved.

You know.

But that you're standing in it.

You're saved.

But also this is something that you're Being saved like the gospel is not only has

not only saved you but it is saving.

And so a lot of theological terms get thrown around sometimes you'll hear someone say the word

justification.

Someone you know, then you got sanctification and then you got glorification and the Bible will kind of say the same thing

sometimes by using the word save.

So you'll say it'll say saved being saved to be saved.

I Think a real easy way to kind of understand.

This is to understand justification.

Sanctification and glorification.

So justification is the the moment of salvation.

This is when you are saved you are justified by What Christ has done?

But also Being saved is you're being sanctified sanctified

and I would argue that this also is because of what Christ has done as well as I would argue

you're being saved.

It's not something that you're doing but it's something that Christ has done

and so the immediate question comes.

Well, why?

Do we need to be saved?

I remember There was some evangelists come to my door one time and

I didn't know who I was.

I didn't know who they were.

But they were just going around door -to -door.

And at this time I was very cocky snarky just trying to challenge people.

Everyone I met I'd ask them, you know, what's what's the gospel and So they come up to my

porch and they first thing that they asked me was Hey, are you saved and I turned

around real quick kind of like spinning in the circle.

I said from what?

It's somebody trying to stab me.

It's someone trying to kill me.

What am I?

What do I need to be saved from?

And the guy really didn't know how to respond, you know, I kind of caught him off guard If I try to slow the

conversation down, but he still didn't know what it is that I was supposed to be saved from and

so the Bible has this concept.

That.

That we have fallen in Adam.

We you know when Adam fell all humanity fell and the earth became

cursed.

And so we are born.

In Adam.

Sinful and we prove that by sinning.

So.

In sin the Bible says is lawlessness.

So whenever we sin The Bible tells us this is what what's called breaking God's law.

So you have God has a moral law.

He has rules if I tell my kid not to Run in the house

and five minutes later.

They're having a race and they're running in the house.

Well, they broke my rules.

They've sinned.

Well.

You know, but violating my rule isn't that bad?

You know, I mean my kids might tell you it's pretty harsh, but but God's standard is higher than mine.

God placed Adam in that garden and he said, you know, you can eat of any tree of the garden, but do not.

And I can just picture him saying look at me Adam.

Do not Eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for the day that you eat of it.

You will surely die.

And also in this garden was the the tree of life.

So there's two trees.

Yeah, there's many trees but the two main trees was a tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life.

And if Adam would have not eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil He could have eaten

from the tree of life.

And if he had eaten from the tree of life, he would have earned

Life or himself and for his posterity.

Well.

He didn't keep The covenant that God gave him so he ate from this tree of

knowledge of good and evil.

And God told him that the day that you do you will surely die.

And his death was being removed from the garden and not being able to eat of the tree of life.

The reward of keeping the covenant would have been eaten from the tree of life and having eternal life.

Adam did not meet the

qualification.

He ate of the wrong tree and by doing so he fell.

Was removed from the garden and by doing so he curses the whole earth and we have all fallen in him.

We have been removed from the garden.

There is no tree of life for us to reach out and grab and eat.

And so because of that God Made a standard he he created a wall

and gave it to.

To.

The Hebrew people the Ten Commandments and we have all fallen and we have all broken the standard

God's moral law.

Do not Worship another God do not have any other gods before me

Honor the Sabbath.

I mean keep the Sabbath honor your father and mother do not lie Steal do not covet do not commit

adultery all so on and so forth.

And every one of us have broken these laws.

And so because we have broken these laws we have Committed treason against the king

we are guilty of lawlessness of breaking God's rule and Again, God's standard is higher than

mine.

So I got my kids running around the house and I tell them not to you know.

They'll get in trouble but Adam ate of took one bite of a fruit and because of this

bite from a fruit Not only did he get removed from the garden But so did

his posterity and now because of this one sin that he committed Every

child born is born under his curse and deserving of death.

God's standard is high.

And so we might look in and say well lions not bad.

Well, it is to God.

Lion is horrible to God.

It's it's awful.

We don't need to do it.

It's it's violating his covenant.

It it's it's breaking his rules.

And.

Because his standard is so high.

The Bible says that every liar will find their part in a lake that burns with fire.

And so just.

From lying whether it be to your mother to your teacher to your father to your friend to your boss

we deserve.

To be punished we deserve death.

And that's what the Bible teaches that The wages of sin is death.

So if sin is breaking God's law.

And.

Our reward our paycheck for breaking God's law is death.

So because we have broken God's law so that sins will die.

So if you ever wonder why people die, it's because all of all have fallen short of the glory of God we sin.

Because we sin we will die that our death is God's paycheck for what

we've earned in life.

But not only do we deserve death we deserve Punishment.

We deserve to be exiled Completely out of the rim of where God is and that this

place of punishment is a place called hell.

And this is where we all deserve to go.

But the moment that Adam fell.

God.

God in a promise of a curse actually blesses the

People he tells the serpent.

That.

From the woman will come an offspring who would Actually bruise his head

while only bruising his heel.

So we see this as the first proclamation of the gospel that someone was

going to come and defeat The dragon that's that that persuaded his

way into the life of The first creation

and so we believe that this is Jesus.

We believe that when Jesus Died on the cross that this was him bruising

the head That snake while only bruising his heel, but before we even

get there we need to understand The implications that go

around that how how is it that That someone named Jesus born

of the woman under the law Is able to accomplish such a great task.

Right, I think that's the the main question when it comes to the gospel how how it did this Jesus

character Meet the requirements of being this snake crusher.

I agree.

Yeah, who was Jesus.

And why.

Why is he so significant to the gospel.

Because didn't he preach the gospel?

Yeah.

You know when you ask who you know, what is the gospel.

And I said in a simple You know to the shortest summation of the gospel is first Corinthians

chapter 15, but an actual shorter summation It's Jesus.

Jesus is the gospel.

He is the good news.

He is that the proto you know, he's the one that was Prophesied as the curse

to the Serpent, but the blessing to us that that through him.

He was going to remove the bite from the apple.

He was going to uncurse the earth.

Like in our text it says that he died for our sins so he died.

For you know, we broke God's law.

He came and he paid our fine.

He he is the propitiation so the word propitiation.

It actually means in layman's term a payment for wrongdoing.

And I give us a little analogy.

My daughter who is 11 and has a soccer ball and a net and the net is probably about

20 feet over from my neighbor's window and 20 feet back In front of it

and she could and she could if she tried hard enough was to kick that ball.

She could hit that window.

And if she broke the window, well someone has to pay for the window.

Her being 11.

She don't have a job.

She can't pay for the window did this is a sign that she cannot pay.

And so me being daddy has to reach into my pocket and pay what she owes and that is a window.

And so let's say a window these days is 80 to 100 bucks.

You don't have it.

I reach into my pocket grab the money pay for the window that money is the propitiation.

It's the payment for her wrongdoing.

All right.

Well, we need a payment for our own wrongdoing.

We need someone to pay our fine.

And so God reaches into his eternal pocket.

And he and he sends his son Jesus Christ who is

God himself.

The.

First John excuse me, the gospel John tells us that in the beginning was the

word and the word was with God and the word was God and that Everything that was created was created through

this word that was with God and was God.

And in verse 14. It tells us that this This word that was with God and was God became flesh.

And then we find out in verse 18 of that same chapter that that no one has ever seen God Speaking of the

father but the only God speaking of that word who was the son Has come to reveal him to make him known

to explain him.

And so Jesus comes to explain it to us who God actually is.

So in doing so he becomes the payment for our wrongdoing.

But we also have the concept of what John sees we have John the Baptist.

And I hate to keep bouncing around but I'll eventually bring it back together.

John the Baptist sees Jesus coming from a distance.

Before this he has people asking him is you know?

Questioning why is he baptizing?

Asking if he's the Christ, you know, if you're not the Christ, why are you baptizing?

He made a statement that he's a voice crying out in the wilderness preparing the way for the Lord making straightest path.

And he pronounces a curse on them saying I see you Pharisees and Sadducees you come down to the waters of Jordan.

You brood of vipers.

Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come speaking of?

You know, they have broken God's law and wrath is coming.

This is even now the axe is at the root of the tree them being the tree the Jewish people being the

tree.

He says the axe is at the root of the tree and that.

And then he also says that.

That.

But this one that's coming His sandals that he's unworthy to carry will baptize with Holy Spirit and

fire that fire be in judgment and so.

But in John he sees Jesus coming toward him and he says behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

This pointing us back to the Paschal Lamb but in order for you know,

like the women the Jews exited from From Egypt they had to take a lamb and

they had to put the blood on the doorpost and on the mantle.

And this was going to be a sign for them.

And as the angel comes through that this angel was going to kill the firstborn of all Who do not

have the firstborn of male of all who do not have this blood on the door?

And so none of the Egyptians during this time of slavery had the blood of the lamb on the door.

The death angel comes through he kills the firstborn.

Unless they had this blood of the lamb on their door John sees Jesus and he says that's them.

That's the lamb That will be slain for the foundation.

I mean, that's the lamb that will be Slain for the sins of the world.

So we have this idea now That there's going to be a lamb that's going to be slain

For all the sins of the world, but in order to be a lamb that's slain.

The Bible is clear that the lamb has to be perfect.

It has to be spotless so in our text it says that That Christ died

for our sins according to the scriptures that's speaking Specifically of his

passive obedience.

This is something that happens to him.

Christ did not kill himself.

Him dying being nailed hands and feet to a Roman cross and dying dying at death was something that was

done to him so this is Christ Passive obedience because he could have

stopped him.

He's God, right?

He could have stopped him but in his passive obedience He allows them to to kill him to

crucify him and the Bible says that this was done for our sins but.

That.

You know in order to meet that condition you have to be perfect.

You have to be spotless.

And that's where his act of obedience comes in.

So Jesus Christ when he came into the world, this is this God man.

This is God in man.

It's What the theologians call the hypostatic union that Jesus is both

God and man.

Truly God.

Truly man because it took Jesus being truly God to Reconcile

man to God, but it took Jesus being truly man to die for men because God cannot

die.

So.

In order for this to take place Jesus had to live a Perfect life has in his act of

obedience.

He had to live the life that we could not live.

That's keeping God's Commandments Perfectly loving God love a neighbor perfectly.

And because he has done That because he has kept that Covenant

He is the spotless lamb.

He is what John saw the lamb that would take away the sins of the world.

So Jesus did not live the perfect life.

He could not die the death in our place.

Does it make sense?

Absolutely, which brings in the third part that he raised on the third day.

Yeah.

So we have him dying for our sins.

Why.

Because he lived the perfect life.

He was buried and he rose on the third day speaking of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

And this is the the hinge upon Christianity, you know, if this isn't true, then nothing's

true.

And so we just.

So that so the resurrection is the comfort the resurrection is.

Is is what you believe in order to become Christian?

Think.

The Bible lays it out very very carefully when it speaks about How

someone how does someone go from being in Adam to being in

Christ.

And Jesus gives parables, but Romans chapter

9 verse 10.

Excuse me.

Romans 10 verse 8 9 tells us that if we.

Let me turn there.

So I don't just painlessly quote it.

And if you ever want man, you can always.

You can always shout out a verse.

I'll type it in since I'm on the computer and I can.

I Can read it aloud if that ever helps you out?

And so it's just Romans chapter 10.

And I'm beginning in verse 9 it says because if you

confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and Believe in

your heart that God raised him from the dead You will be saved.

For with the heart one believes and is justified and with his mouth one

confesses And is saved.

Now two things happen there.

Notice with me.

It says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, that's one thing The

second thing and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

Also, you know just as well as I do we're living in a world where most everyone

Says that they're Christian.

And they can point back to some time that you know, they walked and I'll shook a hand sign the card prayed a prayer

Repeated something after someone To to which they

called upon the name of the Lord.

Right, oh absolutely.

Then they might have fallen away and because of that we have this idea that a man could lose their

salvation.

Well, the Bible is clear right here.

It says that you also have to believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

Well, how important is the resurrection?

Well, if you do not believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

Calling upon his name does nothing.

Millions and billions of people have called upon the name of the Lord.

And it did nothing.

You have to truly believe the scientific impossibility that

Jesus Christ Rose from the dead.

That he was crucified hands and feet to a Roman cross.

That when he was Literally beat with a cat of nine tails beard ripped out crown of thorns on his

head nails Nailed hands and feet to a Roman cross speared in

the side.

Horrible horrible beaten crushed by God dies.

Buried for three days.

And he comes out the team like this.

It's something that really happened.

Like what.

Like there's no denying it.

Yeah, it's not like it was just some spirit or ghost.

It was.

It was physical Jesus.

Right, right.

And so Christianity hinges upon the fact that this actually happened and if you don't

truly believe that it happened.

Something I mean listen, this is a scientific impossibility things like this don't happen.

But if you don't believe that this happened, you're not a Christian.

And that's why faith is so important.

Because that's Austin, you know, just as well as I do.

We just don't believe people crawl about the grave and live and then go up into heaven.

No, absolutely.

Absolutely not.

I mean, I I would argue scripture even shows us that that faith in itself is a gift from God.

Correct.

And so we're not born with this kind of faith to believe that something like that.

I mean the idea is this is that as Christ was on the cross.

That the wrath of God that we deserve you deserve.

I might deserve it more than you.

Fell on Jesus.

So this is where the gospel comes together.

You know you and I we've broken God's law every day.

He's just been the propitiation God paying our fine the the wrath that we deserve.

How did he pay our fine?

It fell on Jesus?

The mercy that we don't deserve comes to us how by two things.

And.

We'll probably walk through these two things by faith and repentance by

believing and trusting.

And what Jesus Christ has done for us?

Absolutely turning from ourself to God and believe in what Jesus Christ has done for us that it actually

was done for us.

I don't know if you how you want me to follow up with that or no, you're good.

I mean, I know I took in different directions.

It doesn't matter.

I mean that was solid.

Yeah, we'll just roll let's just roll right into it man, I mean being that faith and repentance is the

pillar on which our belief is right.

Because as we were discussing the supernatural impossibility of a man really walking out of the grave

after taking such a beating and I mean dead dead and.

But yet he's alive.

Right.

And so how do you believe in such a thing?

Like I hear the joke all the time zombie Jesus Day, you know.

It's it's a mockery in our society.

Yeah, and this is exactly why.

Because it is a gift to even have faith in that in the first place.

To understand the holiness of that the glory of that.

So it's and these are things that That come from a gift of God because how else would I have the understanding?

So it's.

No, we don't believe that people can and just walk out the

grave.

Absolutely.

The atheist is no different from us to when it comes to natural logic.

When it comes to it takes something to create something, correct, which is which is why the question of

morality is so dangerous.

So it but yeah, but if so, let's let's start with faith.

Jeff I think that um, I Will see how this goes.

If anything we'll cut this into two episodes.

Both episodes will be available on the same day.

But if you don't have time to listen to a whole thing, I'm not good at pausing or remembering where I left off.

So I'll just start another episode for the next two we're already at.

We're at 30 minutes now.

So yeah, that'll be fair a 30 minute episode in a 20 minute episode.

But.

So yeah, go ahead and define faith.

Yes, I would say that everyone works in the realm of faith.

You know you get into your car you're driving.

And you're coming to a red light you get your brakes.

There's a certain Faith that we have in us to trust

that our vehicle that's going 50 miles an hour.

You know if you drive slow Sorry for you, but or if you drive fast,

you know that that the brakes are going to stop, right?

There's a certain amount of faith there that we have in the vehicle.

There's a certain amount of faith that we have when we go into a restaurant.

Ordering food trusting they didn't spit in our food.

There's a certain amount of faith that I have in my chair when I sit down.

And I and I say that it's faith, you know, my chair has four legs.

The car has brakes.

I believe at the restaurant that I mean that has good honest people working there.

My food and plus I'm not one of these guys that are out there Arguing with everybody

making enemies and all that stuff.

So I feel like there's a certain faith that I have a certain trust factor that I have in certain things.

Absolutely.

I'd agree with that.

Yeah, but when it comes to The this kind of faith, it's it's different.

So if you just take that chair analogy, you know that the chair has four legs as a you know

Every time that I've said it before it's held me.

I Faith that it's gonna hold me, you know hundred times hundred more times.

I'll sit in it but but there's a Faith for me when I've been my knees

and to relax into that chair that it doesn't collapse well faith in

Jesus being that The resurrection that it's something that's impossible.

Scientifically impossible what people don't rise from the dead.

But yet I'm saying that this actually happened.

It's it's basically like Telling someone to sit in a chair, but there

is no chair.

Like there's no evidence of the chair, but I'm telling them no.

No, the chair is here.

And actually the chair is there.

I just can't see the chair and that's how.

The idea of the Christian faith is is that Unless you're given

faith to believe you cannot believe.

And so whenever we whenever we're talking about Christian faith We're not talking about the faith that it takes to sit in

to sit in chairs or to hit the gas Hit the brake pedal or to trust someone's not spitting in

your face.

Yeah, it's because totally different.

Yeah, it's totally different, right?

But yet my faith in Christ and what took place is stronger than any faith that I've

ever had and It's something that I didn't conjure up within myself.

It's something that was given to me when I heard about the gospel.

When I heard the gospel of Jesus Christ I went from not believing To believing

and nothing could change my mind.

Amen it's something that's outside of myself.

Jesus made it clear to Nicodemus.

Nicodemus said to him He said that we know that yeah but you're a teacher from

God or something something of that sort and Jesus stops him in his tracks and he says

Unless you're born again, you cannot even see the kingdom of heaven.

Basically, how do you know that I'm from God when you can't even see the kingdom of heaven.

You can't even see the chair.

How do you know you could sit in it?

You can't see it.

But and I'm saying that when God gave me faith I could see the chair.

But no one else around me can see the chair

and that's what Christian faith is.

And so I understand why people don't don't believe because they can't see the chair that can't see the kingdom of God.

Amen, that's why it's so important that the gospel message be preached because no one can see it

Unless first, they're born again.

Amen.

Romans 10 17.

It's trusting that what Jesus Christ did on that cross.

There's his life death burial resurrection and ascension.

He'd done that for you.

And nothing can change that.

Amen.

And I mean scripture backs all of this.

I mean I maybe I'll try and take the time and pull up all the scripture scripture references and I'll

put it in the description where you can walk through this yourself in the Bible, but I promise all this is in there and

Scripture commands us to do our own due diligence as well.

So if you if you disagree with any of these points we embrace that.

We're not gonna agree with you, but we would love to hear you out.

So if you would like to have a real discussion about it There will be an email in the description and

we will do our due diligence and not only respecting your question But giving you a thought -out answer.

Because we're over here saying that this is something that we don't have in ourselves.

Well, the Bible says the same thing.

You're saved by grace through faith.

And that is not of yourself.

The nearest end to seed it to that is not of yourself.

It's faith.

You cannot produce faith in yourself, you don't wake up and decide to believe.

Believing is something that happens to you.

You go from not believing to believing that.

There's no other way to explain it because

What it is that we have to believe we have to believe that Jesus is the Christ.

That That the the infinite became finite.

That the creator of all things Entered into creation.

And then he paid the fine that I couldn't pay by Living the perfect life and dying a death

in my place as a substitute.

Amen.

Raising on the third day and now he's with the father.

So, let me ask you this couldn't couldn't I just simply you know.

Kind of like what we were talking about earlier with the sinner's prayer.

I mean couldn't we just walk through John 3 16 and Call on the name of the Lord.

What you could yes.

You explain it.

I mean But just telling someone that that God loves them and to believe in Jesus.

I Don't think that that does it because I mean there's guys, you know, there's

a Hispanic guy.

You know Fred Myers like my friend he always likes to say there's a friend.

There's an Hispanic guy that that lives in his neighborhood named Fred Meyer.

I'm afraid it works at Fred Myers name.

His name is Jose Jesus.

Which is Jesus is you know, is that the Jesus I'm to believe in?

Are you got the Mormons have their own Jesus?

Muslims got a Jesus.

Jehovah's Witnesses have a Jesus and so it you know, just tell him that you know, God loves him.

And he sent his son who is Jesus.

I think you have to go Who is Jesus and then, you

know the context of John 3 16.

I mean John 3 16 is speaking of the covenant of redemption.

I mean first it says for God.

Well.

If you if you if you're looking at it in Christian theology, there's one God three persons.

Because for God so loved the world.

Okay, is this the father the son of the Holy Spirit that he sent his only son?

So we know that it's the father because he sent his son and it says that he sent his son this pointing back to the

covenant of redemption that God purposed to save a people and That he sent his son to accomplish the

purpose and that the Holy Spirit would apply the purpose.

So we have for God so loved the world.

The word world there doesn't mean every single human being.

As a matter of fact the Greek word is Cosmo.

It just means all of Earth for God.

So loved the earth.

Adam cursed the earth.

The God is uncursing the earth how by sending his son.

But then it says that whoever believes in him meaning not just the Jews red yellow black or white.

We're precious in the sight, right?

So whoever believes in him in this Cosmo in this world that has been cursed.

It's going to be uncursed.

Will not perish where Paris needs to be destroyed, but we'll have eternal life eternal life.

Mean meaning that you will never die.

Right, amen, and I mean

Right.

And and the core understanding that needs to be there is the the who the the who is the

resurrected.

Yeah, the resurrected the glorious the glorified.

Sits at the right hand the world is becoming his footstool.

Jesus.

Yeah, the gospel the death.

Excuse me.

The life death burial and resurrection of Jesus has to be articulated in order for anyone to be

saved.

Amen, and that you cannot believe that that God sent his son and if you believe in

him You have to believe in his life death burial resurrection Was

done for you.

Right and I mean in the Great Commission, too.

It's not just about it's not just about going out and convincing people.

It's about discipling them.

Doing life with them teaching them, right?

I mean, so it's I completely get what you're saying that John 3 16 could be a great tool to have a beautiful

gospel discussion.

But it in itself is not enough.

Yeah, it's just like how I just broke it down to you.

I use the Covenant of Redemption like like I can take it.

John 3 16 preach the gospel from it.

But and then you know the Lord could say someone but if I just read John 3 16

It's not explaining the gospel.

Nothing could God use that in their life as they see.

Yes, absolutely.

But they have to believe The gospel.

If we don't get to the gospel Then it don't make sense.

Amen.

Yeah, because says who.

Yeah.

Right.

This is beautiful.

All right.

So let me ask you another question.

This will be the last one.

Can you can you define repentance?

And if you don't mind, could you go ahead and for those who might be catching the second episode before they caught the first?

You know, I encourage you to go back.

But if if not, then can you give us a summary as to why we're speaking on repentance Jeff?

Yes, so repentance is one of the two things required for someone to be saved.

So First let's look back at it as as you know.

Let's just say That I was very very rich and and I gave you a

house.

And I said, you know the requirements of you staying in the house says you got to give me $1 ,000 a month.

Now that might sound high in some places, but you're living in the neighborhood.

That's two thousand a month.

So $1 ,000 a month is very gracious.

Well.

So that money is what is required of you to live in the house?

Okay, but let's say That I require that of you, but I also

give you the money To pay me and that's what

we're talking about when it comes to faith and repentance.

Faith and repentance are the two things required for salvation.

And I take the position that faith is the gift of God and that repentance is given to those.

It's granted to those who have faith in Christ.

And it's also what?

Has to happen like it.

It's what it's what's required of us to be saved.

So faith is trusting in Jesus Christ like trusting that he is the payment for

your salvation.

All right.

So the idea of repentance is especially in our day and time and it's been it's been.

I mean because it's okay, so there's a difference between justification

repentance versus Repentance and sanctification.

All right, so biblical.

Repentance salvificly for the.

You know for a person to be saved they must have faith and repentance.

My argument is that that repentance is not stop sinning.

Okay, I know that might be shocking to some people.

No, but I agree.

In other words, you can't become perfect.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Reason being is if that is the You

know, if that's what God requires then no one becomes a Christian.

All right, first John is very clear.

It tells us not to sin.

It tells us what to do when we sin that's confess our sins.

It tells us You know to never say we have not sinned and don't say that you

never seen or have not sinning.

It's very clear.

And then it says that when we do sin, we have an advocate and We need to understand that Jesus paid our

fine, you know, he is our propitiation.

Right in other words ever this side of heaven are going to be perfect.

So it's not sinning period was a qualification for being a Christian.

No one's a Christian.

I mean, so is it fair to say that?

Like I love your expression sinning Saints.

It's we we know we're sinning and to lie about our sin to say we're not sinning as the

problem.

But to to know you're sinning and actively working against it, you know acknowledging it's there.

And taking that moment to reflect on it that is that a fair summary of repentance?

Well, I would say this so.

So.

After Jesus died buried rose again.

The Apostles received the Holy Spirit.

There they're preaching.

He.

To a group of Jews who've traveled because of the festival He preaches the gospel in

verse 36.

He says this.

Acts chapter p36.

He says let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him speaking of Both Lord and

Christ this Jesus whom you crucified.

Verse 37 says.

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart and they said to Peter and the Apostles brothers What shall we do.

And Peter said to them repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Forgiveness of your

sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

All right.

So was that repentance?

Stop sinning.

And I would say no, but what.

What I would say that repentance was was this group of Jews rejected Jesus as Messiah.

Right.

And so their repentance would be to stop trusting in the sacrificial system.

And to trust in what God has provided for them and that is the Messiah.

Stop trusting in yourself.

Stop trusting in Workspace righteousness.

Stop trusting in the sacrificial system.

But trust in what God has given you and that is Jesus.

And so repentance would be.

Then turning from self -righteousness.

Turning from that sacrificial system.

Turning to God by putting faith in Christ.

So faith and repentance here is two sides of the same coin.

Now am I saying that that we should continue to sin?

No, absolutely not.

That's where sanctification repentance comes in and I believe that this also is a gift from God.

Amen, why else would you want to do it?

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

You know that as we're living out this Christian life God through his Holy Spirit and through the church is

you know?

Through the means of grace is given us repentance.

He's granting to us Repentance that leads to life that you know.

But it still doesn't make us to where we actually stop sinning completely.

Now there will come a day when we stop sinning.

That's when we're glorified.

But the word repentance is the Greek word metanoia.

It means to Change the way you think now picture this.

They believe that these Jews at this time believe that their sins were forgiven through the Mosaic

sacrificial system.

Peter preaches the gospel lets them know clear that Jesus is the only way that our sins are

forgiven.

They are to stop rejecting Jesus and Receive Jesus

and be baptized in his name.

Speaking of Christian baptism.

All right.

That's what repentance is.

That's that's salvific repentance.

It's that you turn from self -righteousness you stop trusting in whatever system you believe in.

That's going to make you right with God.

And you turn to God by putting your faith in Jesus

Christ.

That's repentance.

So.

It's so good.

It's it's beautiful.

I mean In an application for us as Christians.

This is I mean, it's a form of worship.

This is one of the few things that we get to acknowledge and be a part of With God

on a regular basis, right?

I mean, it's.

Is that fair to say Jeff?

So it's I mean if you just take the idea that if it's anything else then we're preaching a workspace salvation if it's

anything else God that the two things that God requires is faith and repentance and

those two things are given to us and the reform.

We like to say that not only do does Jesus Faith us, but he

repents us.

Why.

Because faith is the gift this is something that he has given to us and repentance is

granted.

It's done for it.

He does this to us.

We don't have the power to.

Ourself where it brings to mind Ephesians 2 10, you know by grace.

You haven't saved out of works.

So it's it's just more proof to the pudding.

It's beautiful.

I Really?

You know for me a lot of questions.

Putting myself in the shoes of a first -time listener.

And if that's you if this is really one of the first times you're hearing about Christ.

Feel free to write us any question you want.

We would love to have this discussion with you, but trying to put myself in those shoes I think the next set of questions I would have is who

is Jesus.

And How how do I how do I identify Jesus when today he is called so many

things.

So maybe that can be our next episode.

But Jeff it is an absolute pleasure being on the phone with you and listening to you and

Fill everybody in.

My intention is to move into this man's backyard.

You can hear my family in the background.

We're very active lifestyle but we're gonna relocate to his area because

it's one thing to talk about things like this and it's it's another to see them lived out and

Covenant Reformed Baptist Church is a beautiful part of the global expression that the church is and

What I have found there is authentic fellowship and Abiding in the vine

and these are things we'll talk about later.

But I.

Believe it's extremely important that you go to church.

And if you can't find a church that fits what you're looking for.

Settle, you know as long as you can agree on the closed -handed things settle and obey the word and do

not forsake the congregation.

Go and be a part you have to be.

It's so crucial and in so I've been part of many beautiful churches.

But this is the first where I found somebody who I really think can teach me.

And so if I ever say anything wrong in this podcast It can be a lot of fun because Jeff gets to tear me up harder than anybody else.

I'm a student so.

But we do this not to set some standard of this is what people need to do.

That's not the case here at all, but really we just want to provide content that has

Application for today things things that we can discuss and talk about.

Really regardless of denomination and if if your denomination disagrees with the things that we're talking about We

that's a whole nother conversation.

Yeah.

Hey on or you know.

Bring tension or be enemies.

No, we're throwing no shade there.

There is no shade being thrown and if we do make a joke and you're offended Please write us.

We'll apologize.

We'll even apologize openly if it makes you feel better.

So but and that we're not above reproach either.

So you feel free to throw any swings our way as well, especially our Presbyterian friends.

They're they are our brothers and sisters.

We love them to death.

And if any of you guys want to cast shade we would embrace it.

Amen.

Dysfunctional family that is what the church is and if you find anything that is anything but that It'll be you

better run because you'll mess it up Jeff.

Love you, brother.