An Apology and Plea to Kanye West

Welcome to the program ladies and gentlemen, my name is Justin Peters I hope that this finds you and your family doing well today.

I want to thank you so much for joining me So a few days ago as of this recording

Kanye West did an interview or at least it was posted an interview that he did With big boy

TV. I'm not familiar with them and It was a fairly lengthy interview I think an hour or a little bit more but there were clips of this that were circulating and I saw those and So I want us to look at this

Clip two and a half minute or so a clip of Kanye West as he's being asked about his faith whether or not he is still a

Christian so let's look at this and then we'll talk about it on the other side Are you in that space where you're comfortable enough to say this is where I am right now.

I'm still a man of God Jesus still it is King, but this is vultures right now.

This is where I am It is but I you know, I have my issues with Jesus There's a lot of stuff I went through that I prayed and I ain't see

Jesus show up. So I had to put my My experience in this world my experience of my children my experience other people my experience of my account

My experience of my brand and my experience with the level of music that I was dealing with in my own hands

Like a lot of times I just feel like in our society and America, you know people

Christians will depend on Jesus so much that we won't put the word in ourself and the main thing that Really that I don't rock with it's like it's just always like I'm gonna pray for you and it's just like you can actually physically do something yourself to more than just pray and We're so in this mentality, that's that's all that needs to happen, but We we ain't praying our way out of prison we ain't praying our way out of the abortion clinics, you know any threats

We've been dealt dealt with and I didn't pray my way through them threats either

I had to get up and do it myself. I had so much to do. I had time to pray

So that's where that's that's who my issue is and look around Matt today Show up show up, you know saying

I don't understand that that's a Controversial no, we're gonna speak but I dropped the con So I'll be surprised that I'm still alive

Every day, how did you not so -called disappear? Like cuz that's a hell of a fight cuz you know

Cuz I'm God And they want to disagree. I'm the god of me and you can't tell me who

I am. I can't tell y 'all I could tell y 'all it's your job to listen. I'm the god of me

I don't know if I'm in heaven already and sure I got number one I'm not Paul, you know, I might be on like a fourth dimension version of the lifestyle

Is you know, I don't know like I said, I must have died in his accident. It must be heaven Why should you fear?

You know, it's another thing. I don't like your Christianity the fear of God if God is love

Why should you fear him? Because you place one fear you get another fear get another fear.

What do you have that point you're easily controllable You're easily sellable. You're easily contracted

Because you have this fear on you So in this interview

Kanye says I have my issues with Jesus Instances in which

I prayed and Jesus didn't show up and then he laments that people put so much trust in Jesus And then he says

I have so much to do I don't have time to pray and look at where I look where I'm at today so in other words kind of a self -made man and Then he was asked how did you not disappear and he responded cause

I'm God I'm the God of me and you can't tell me who I am. I'm the

God of me Cuz you know Cuz I'm God And anyone who disagree

I'm the God of me and you can't tell me who I am I can't tell y 'all

I could tell y 'all it's your job to listen. I'm the God of me This is this is very sad on on so many levels because as most all of you know

Some years ago, I believe it was 2019 Kanye West made a profession of faith

He professed to be a Christian and he had this album come out called entitled.

Jesus is King and Then he started doing these Sunday services. He was traveling around having these services with big choirs and all that and Boy, he was made.

He was the hottest thing going in the evangelical world People all over the place.

We're talking about Oh Kanye West is a Christian how wonderful this is, you know, and they he's doing these Sunday services and people were promoting and posting his

Album and promoting in the Sunday services and and all of this everybody was just excited and it really did not matter

From which theological stream within evangelicalism you came

I saw people even in my own theological circles, which would be a

Soteria Logically reformed in other words a high view of God's sovereignty and salvation a high view of Scripture even people in my camp were really excited about this and promoting

Kanye Kanye how wonderful this is and and I was watching this and admittedly

Kanye did Make some statements that were at face value encouraging.

I thought Well, you know, he's saying some of the right things and I heard he was around some some good solid people and so I was

Hopeful, you know that maybe maybe the Lord actually did save Kanye but even if if Kanye had been a true

Christian. I also knew that he should not be in a position of Leadership and so I said on Twitter I Said look, you know what?

I'm what we're hearing from Kanye. It sounds good. It's encouraging I'm hopeful I'm praying for Kanye and I meant that because I was and and I still do not every day but from time to time

But I said, you know, we need to tap the brakes here because at best at best

He was a brand -new Christian if everything he was saying about what he believed was true at best

He was a brand -new Christian and so we need to tap the brakes here, you know, he he doesn't need to be out in the

Spotlight, he doesn't need to be leading worship services. He needs to be in a church

He needs to be in a doctrinally sound church learning This is not the time for him to to be out worshiping and leading worship and I said we need to tap the brakes on this, you know and see if his if his conversion is is the real thing and Man I got ripped up one side and down the other

I Have not been excoriated so much. There's probably two things. I've been excoriated the most for The thing with Kanye West and Beth Moore and also even the flat earth, but that's another deal

But even people in my camp in my theological circles, even some of them Were excoriating me

You know, you're not the judge of Kanye, you know, how can you say, you know, we should take his professional faith at face value well, sadly

It did not take very long In watching Kanye to see that he was not a

Christian He had not been converted. He was not saved While he was doing the

Sunday services almost immediately. He was With TD Jake's at his church

He's saying good things about TD Jake's saying us even things like about Mormons that Mormons are

Christians And then he's at Lakewood Church speaking at Lakewood Church on the platform there with Joel Osteen and and Then you know since then there's been other things that he's done in the news to really make people realize

Okay, yeah this this guy's not in a good place and in anybody with any any

Biblical discernment on any level can quite clearly tell that Kanye West is not a

Christian in fact, I actually got off of Twitter because I was excoriated so viciously and it became a stumbling block to my wife

Kathy it grieved her and So I got off Twitter for a few years and I'm back on now, but at any rate

This is just the latest example latest evidence of why Kanye is not a

Christian now in this short clip He said I have my issues with Jesus instances in which

I prayed and Jesus didn't show up. You know, that's kind of Unfortunately, I couldn't help but make the connection, you know, he was at Lakewood Church and Joel Osteen And that's the kind of the

Joel Osteen Cotton -candy Prosperity gospel theology, you know

God is basically our cosmic butler and they'll do anything for us that we want and health and wealth and all that kind of stuff

So I had to make that connection, but but clearly from these things, you know, he says he says

I'm God I'm the God of me and you can't tell me who I am. I'm the God of me.

Kanye is clearly Not a believer. He's clearly not a Christian Christians do not say these kinds of things and Much less believe them.

And so I want to offer an apology

To Kanye Kanye if you are watching I want to apologize to you on on on behalf in a sense of all of those

Who put you in a place where you should not have been and especially those people who knew better Biblically knew better to do that and yet They promoted you.

Anyway They lauded you Anyway, they thought the Sunday services and the album and all this kind of stuff and not even the merchandise all that They thought it was great and they promoted you and just talked and talked about how wonderful you are and all this kind of stuff especially for the people now,

I doubt that they are apologizing, but I want to say if they had If they had integrity

And if they really cared about you they would be apologizing to you right now because as I said best -case scenario if the things had been true that you were saying back in 2019 if they truly had been true if you truly had come to Christ and were a new creature in Christ born again

Regenerate and dwelt by the Holy Spirit of God Best case you are you are a baby

Christian and baby Christians are not to be in positions of spiritual leadership people were putting you in a place in a position that You should not have been in and no baby

Christian should ever be in First Timothy 3 verse 6 says this is the context here

Paul is talking about qualifications of elders and he says a elder should not be a new convert now granted you weren't the elder of any church

But the general principle is the same a new convert is not to be in a position of leadership

You're not supposed to be leading worship a new convert should be in a doctrinally sound

Church Sunday after Sunday after Sunday after Sunday sitting in the pew under good teaching and learning

People in my camp who knew better Put you in a position that you should not have been and that was the worst possible thing that they could have done for you and it

Reflected unfortunately a real lack of concern on their part Towards you and I apologize.

I'm sorry that that happened to you It should never have happened to you

It's my understanding that there was one pastor With whom Kanye was in contact at least on somewhat of a regular basis who

I think was cautioning Him not to get out into the public

But unfortunately many many others many many others were just cheering this on and it was

Very unfair very unfair to you Kanye first Timothy 5 22 says do not lay hands upon anyone hastily and thereby share responsibility

For the sins of others keep yourself pure We should not lay our hands so to speak in a in a in an endorsing kind of way

Saying that this is this is a fellow believer. This is a fellow Christian We endorse him and that you know put them in a place of leadership

We should not do that too hastily because the the risk is is that Person is not really

Who he or she claims to be and if they're not truly a Christian if they're not truly born again if they're still lost then that lost person will do what lost people do and Bring reproach upon the name of Christ and in so doing by laying our hands on people too hastily

In that kind of approving sense Then we are participate participating in those sins.

And so Kanye Sadly the people that put you And encouraged you to be in a position that you should not have been in they are they have they have culpability

In in your sin as well, and they they will have to answer to the

Lord for that so I apologize To you,

I'm sorry that that happened was not my Doing I I was encouraging the opposite of that.

I was saying we need to tap the brakes here And you know, this is not high -level discernment

This is you know, I would have I thought that this was like isn't this common sense. Isn't this basic?

biblical understanding and it seems like We don't do we're not so careless in any other area of life if If you're building a house

Do you get do you get someone who's just had? One class in woodshop to build your house

No If you need to go to the doctor, do you seek out someone who's just read a you know?

Medicine for dummies and you trust that person to perform surgery on you No If you need your if your car breaks down if you need your transmission rebuilt

Do you seek out someone who's just watched one YouTube video on how to rebuild a transmission?

No Not in a million years in every area of life

We seek out people who are who know what they're doing who have

Experience Who have built up a wealth of knowledge who are proficient and knowledgeable in what they do

We seek that out in every area of our lives except Except when it comes to the thing that is by far the most important The shepherding of our eternal souls and the worship of our eternal thrice.

Holy God When it comes to church when it comes to preaching, ah Whatever anything will do.

It really is a sad commentary. It really is and Kanye the worst thing that could have been done towards you was done sadly and I grieve over that Kanye you're clearly not a

Christian Christians do not say that I am the God of me Christians Don't say that and then when you said well,

I don't understand why people fear God, you know, why why would they fear God? If God is love

Kanye the reason we fear God is because God tells us to fear him

Jesus says in Luke chapter 12 But I say to you my friends do not fear those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do

But I will show you whom to fear fear the one who after he has killed has authority to cast into hell

Yes, I tell you fear him Kanye those are the words of Jesus the one that you used to call

King He tells you to fear God to fear him because he has the ability to cast you into hell and Kanye right now as of right now, that is where you are headed.

You are lost in your sins. I Want to give to you

I want to do the most loving thing that anyone could possibly do for you Right now and I want to share with you the gospel the truth the gospel of Jesus Christ the good news of Jesus Christ is this is

Is that Kanye you are a sinner You have broken God's laws the

Ten Commandments God's standard of goodness All of us have broken

God's laws. You're not alone. Every single person on the planet has broken the laws of God Thou shalt not lie

Have you ever told a lie? Of course you have because we all have every single one of us has told lies many of them

So you're a liar thou shalt not steal If you have ever taken anything that does not belong to you, you're a thief

Thou shalt not commit adultery And Jesus raises the bar on that Jesus says if you look at a woman with lust

You've committed adultery already in your heart If you look at any woman who is not your wife with lust you have committed adultery already in your heart

And that's just three of the Ten Commandments thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain

Using God's name in an irreverent way blasphemy And we blaspheme the name of God in word and in deed.

That's just four of the Ten Commandments. We got six more to go You've broken these commandments all of them because we all have we have sinned against God in word and deed in thought

We have broken God's laws Thousands and thousands of times Kanye you have broken the laws of God's thousands of times

And just like when we break laws on earth, there's a penalty to be paid How much more so when we break the laws of God?

But because God is eternal The punishment of that sin is also eternal in Kanye if you were to die right now if Your heart were to stop beating if you were to be in a car wreck if you were to get cancer and die if you were

To die right now in your sin You would very rightly and very justly go to a very real place that the

Bible calls hell Where the worm will not die the fire will not be quenched.

There will be wailing weeping gnashing of teeth The full undiluted fury of God's wrath will be poured out for all of eternity and it will never end

Ever and no amount of good works can save you You can't do enough good things to earn your salvation.

Salvation is a gift. It's a gift of God. We don't earn it Our good works or at least what we perceive to be good works

Helping little ladies across the street, you know donating to some charity or something like that, you know cutting someone's grass farm, whatever those works

To God or as filthy rags, that's what God says in Isaiah chapter 64 filthy rags

We have no righteousness of our own We must have the righteousness of someone else and his name is

Jesus You stand condemned before God you deserve hell.

That's the bad news But there is good news in the good news. The gospel is this

God sent his son Jesus Christ to this earth in Jesus lived a perfect life.

He was the perfect person He was one man one person with two distinct natures

Kanye Jesus Christ truly God truly man one person two distinct natures the

God man in This God man, Jesus Christ lived a perfect life to the perfect satisfaction of God he was sinless never broke any of God's laws and Then Jesus willingly laid down his life on the cross.

His life was not taken. He gave it and on the cross This perfect person offered his perfect life as a perfect sacrifice

To perfectly satisfy the perfect wrath of God died on the cross

Three days later bodily raised from the dead proving himself to be who he said he was

God in human flesh and Kanye if you will turn from your sin repent of sin and Place your trust in Jesus Christ He will save you

You will pass from death to life You know, I want to say something about repentance because repentance is not merely in and of itself

Stopping certain sins to give an example if a man is looking at pornography on his computer or Smartphone or whatever if he's if he's

Addicted to use that word to pornography, but then someone takes the computer away takes his phone away and He doesn't have access to that anymore.

Guess what? He's no longer looking at pornography But that doesn't mean he's repented

Because if he had access to it, he would return right? So this the cessation that the stopping of certain sins in and of itself does not necessarily mean that person has repented

Repentance comes when your heart has been changed when you look at sin

Differently than you did before You see someone outside of Christ a non -christian or a false convert as you were and are

That person can That person can and does enjoy sin You'll go to sin you enjoy it because that's what you really want

It doesn't grieve you but if you're truly a Christian a true Christian is actually grieved over his sin

The Apostle Paul speaks of this in 2nd Corinthians chapter 7 He talks about a godly sorrow in a worldly sorrow over sin in 2nd

Corinthians chapter 7 the Apostle Paul says that a worldly sorrow leads to death, but a godly sorrow leads to repentance unto salvation a

Worldly sorrow is nothing more than a guilty conscience. What would happen to me if my sin were exposed?

What would be the consequences to me? And so we try to cover up our sin not because we grieve over it but because we don't want the consequences of it

But if we could get away with it, you see if nobody would know about it We'd go right back to it.

That's a worldly sorrow In a worldly sorrow leads to death eternal death in hell but then there's that godly sorrow a

Godly sorrow Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 7 a godly sorrow leads to repentance unto salvation

What is a godly sorrow a godly sorrow over sin comes when we grieve over our sin because we understand that our sin grieves

God He has been so good so kind so gracious so patient So faithful so merciful to us that when we do sin

It grieves us that we do because we understand Ephesians chapter 5 that our sin grieves

God and we do not want to grieve him It's not that a

Christian is perfect by God's grace He has saved me and I am a

Christian. Am I perfect? No. No, I'm not perfect at all but a genuine

Christian stumbles into sin But a true Christian doesn't swim in it a true

Christian doesn't relish sin doesn't plan as sin doesn't look for Opportunities to sin when a true

Christian sin sins it grieves him it grieves her Does your sin grieve you?

It is good and it is right to Warn people to flee from the wrath to come it is good and it is right that I have warned you

To flee from the wrath of God, it's good and it is right as Jesus did

To tell people to fear God to fear the one who can cast you into hell But just as much as you should want a

Savior from hell, you should want a Savior from sin There are people out there who want a

Savior from hell because their conscience accuses them and they know they deserve it But deep down they still love their sin

They really don't want a Savior from sin The people who want a Savior from hell, but not a

Savior from sin have a Savior from neither But Kanye I want to give to you this offer.

I Want I'm just sharing with you the gospel Kanye. I would encourage you if you are convicted right now

That you are a sinner that and you understand that you deserve the wrath of God if you if you are convicted and just here

And what I've shared with you that no, you're not the God of you God is the

God of you. Yahweh is the God of you If you're convicted that you have sinned against him and you deserve his wrath if you're convicted

By your sin, and you know, you need to turn from it. You you want to abandon your sin and Give your life to the

Lord Jesus Christ Surrender to him surrender to his Lordship if you want

Christ if you want him If you will come to him empty -handed trusting not in yourself not in your works not in your wealth not in your fame because That is just a our the

Bible says our life here on earth is but a vapor It appears for a little while and then

Vanishes away Kanye all your wealth all your fame. It's fleeting It will soon vanish away if you will

Abandon all of that. I'm not saying you have to give away all your money, but but abandon your confidence in Yourself in your fame and your wealth and realize that your confidence must be in Christ If you will come to Christ empty -handed

He will save you Jesus says the one who comes to me I will in no wise cast out if you come to Christ seeking him

Seeking forgiveness of your sins. He will save you confess your sins to him

Trust him. He will save you He'll give you a new heart new affections new desires and Kanye one day

Heaven will be your reward. Jesus himself will be your reward I would love to be able to call you my brother in Christ.

I would love to see you in heaven I doubt I will ever see you on this earth But I would sure love to see you in heaven one day, and I am sorry that So many people who knew better Put you in a position that you should never have been in so that is the good news of the gospel

Kanye and A closing word just for True Christians and those who

It's a sad commentary that so many Evangelicals whatever that word means anymore, but so many in the evangelical world they get so giddy Over some celebrity professing faith in Christ and like some celebrity if a celebrity professes to be a

Christian we automatically Start posting their stuff everywhere and start lauding them, you know

It's like that as Christians. Why is it that we? Why is it that we feel some need for some famous person to become a

Christian like it gives Christians any more? credibility No Not many wiser chosen, you know,

God uses the foolish things of the world to confound the wise It's a sad commentary on us that so many of us are just get they we throw out all discernment when it comes to a

Celebrity when they profess to be a Christian profess Christ a new profession of faith, and we just automatically start

Putting them out there and holding them up as examples the list is a long one a tragically long one of Celebrities who claim to be

Christians and then flamed out and started acting like what they were all along just unregenerate lost people and Thereby bringing reproach upon the name of Christ and quite honestly embarrassment to Christians.

It's this basic discernment folks ground level stuff

If a celebrity professes to be a Christian, hey Wonderful if you happen to be one

Get away from the spotlight get away from the camera Find a good doctrinally sound church led by biblically qualified men

Enjoying that church and sit in the pew and learn And Kanye let me say to if if you if you are watching this video, and if you have questions

Please reach out to me. You can find me on Twitter. You can go to my website Just Google my name

Justin Peters org and go to my website contact me through my website I would I would be happy to help you.

I'm not interested in your fame. I'm not interested in in your money I don't want anything from you.

Not at all I don't and if you do contact me I won't tell a soul that you have contacted me other than my wife because I tell her everything

But I'm not gonna go on Twitter. Hey Kanye West contacted me. I'm not gonna do that But I would like to help you

And so if you if you do have some questions, please reach out to me send me a DM on Twitter or whatever

Nobody will know about it and and I'll get some resources in your hand that will truly help you

I'll try to I'll help you find a good church So I don't even know where you live

I don't know if you're still where you were or whatever, but I can I can help you I can help you get some good resources in your hand and and I think get you to a good church as well

Okay, I mean that All right, dear ones. Thank you very much for watching until our next time together