September 24, 2019 Show with Hans Fiene on “An Appropriate Christian Use of Humor”

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I don't ever remember the date today is Tuesday, and I know it's the month of

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September and I am very thrilled to have on the program today.

Somebody that I've been wanting to interview for a very long time someone who I think

is one of the most hilarious human beings on the face of the earth and I have a

feeling that a lot of you who are listening today are Also fans of

this individual's work, and I am speaking of none other than Hans

Feeney.

He is the Lutheran satire guy, and he's the pastor of River of Life Lutheran Church in

Shenahan, Illinois which happens to be a congregation in the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod and Today

we're going to be addressing an appropriate Christian use of humor.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio Hans Feeney.

Hans are you there?

Remember this is in television.

I can't see.

That's all right.

I'm gonna right away give our listeners our email address if they have any questions about our subject today and occur in an

appropriate Christian use of humor and also if they have any questions about Lutheran satire our email address is

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What we typically do on iron sharpens iron radio Hans when we have a very first -time guest is we

have them give a Summary of their testimony of how they came to discover

and fall in love with and follow Jesus Christ.

And Sometimes our listeners or should I say our guests are people who have been born and raised in the

Christian home and they can't even remember a Period in their life when they were in rebellion

against God or didn't believe in Jesus and so on.

But we do have those other cases.

Even sometimes with Lutheran pastors who perhaps were living as rebels or members of false religions and

so on and then they Were called by our Lord Jesus Christ drawn to him and finally

discovered They're one and only way of salvation, which is Christ and the death that he Provided

on Calvary for our redemption.

So if you could tell us in summary form something about your salvation testimony before we get into the subject at

hand.

Well, yeah, she

Retired.

Oh, I

wish there

was a

fly

in the

wall

for that.

I Don't even know if that would have been the first thing in my head or

anything in my head at all when I was six years old.

Other than wait, I would used to be waiting to see what presents I got for that birthday.

And when did you realize you were called into the pastoral ministry.

I have a feeling it was when you were seven, right?

As a as a Calvinist you kind of sound like when Farrell was those guilt -tripping John Calvin

to come back.

And

you

have

by

God's

providence.

Wound up as the pastor of River of Life Lutheran Church in Shanahan,

Illinois, and am I mispronouncing Shanahan?

Is it Shanahan.

Shanahan?

It's it's Shanahan.

Yes, it's it.

We're

far enough

away from the city

now.

I mentioned when I was.

Giving the name of the church just a few moments ago that you are a congregation in the

Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod and Those kinds of things are very important to say

because as you know There are Lutherans that we would

not consider Either Christian or Lutheran.

And so tell us why is there something Significant about the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.

I know and there's are there are other synods as well that are biblically faithful and historically

faithful to the confessions of Lutheranism to the teachings of Martin Luther, of

course, we I'm sure would agree that since we believe in sola script Torah

that we would only Embrace those things that Martin Luther taught that we find in

scripture also.

So but tell us what is what is unique about the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod?

Yeah, so they're all of Lutheran Church bodies and

for why they're.

And When

various

coming

here

for

completely

non

theological

reasons,

we're

just

coming

here,

you

know

for

kind

of

people

to

show.

I

Visited an evangelical Lutheran Church I'm talking about an Elka Church

not long ago because they had a concert.

I happen to be a lover of black acapella gospel

and they had this gospel group.

Acapella gospel group.

All the members in the group were black and I went to the concert and one of

the singers in the group Got up to the microphone and began very

boldly preaching the gospel and calling upon people to repent.

And I was wondering if that was the first time I think hospital was never heard.

All right in the walls of that place and it's it's interesting how the female pastor a

Very sweet lady.

I don't know her that well, but I'm not really sure if she would be a regenerate person or not, but she

Applauded this group and I couldn't help but wonder if that was the motivation might have been political

correctness.

Isn't this a quaint quaint thing that we have?

Folks singing Negro spirituals and so on in our church and and therefore they got the pass

For preaching the gospel where another group might have been silenced immediately.

Who knows?

But Yeah.

Yeah, in fact, I was

at a

Bible

conference.

Very well known for its strong position on biblical inerrancy.

Years ago I had a chat with a Pastor in the lobby or the

narthex of the church and I asked him.

Where do you pastor.

And he whispered?

In Elka Church.

But so I know that that remnant is there.

All right, by the way folks if I hope to announce this website later.

But the website.

If you happen to be Visiting Shanahan, Illinois, or perhaps you live there or you have family friends and loved ones who live

there.

The website for the River of Life Lutheran Church in Shanahan, Illinois is Rol

Shanahan org.

Rol Shanahan and that's spelled CH a and then oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, see no.

CH a and an a H o n.

CH a and an a H o n.

So Rol CH a and and in a H o n dot org.

And I hope that you visit there if you have the.

Ability to.

Before I go any further.

There are people who no doubt Because we even have people outside of Christian the Christian

faith listening to our program.

I occasionally even hear from Muslims.

I hear from new believers.

And of course, I would guess that the majority of my listeners are not Lutheran.

Although I know that the Lutheran satire popularity has extended beyond

The boundaries of Lutheranism since I myself as a Reformed Baptist discovered Lutheran

satire and I happen to be a lover of humor in fact.

Watching and listening to your videos for the Lutheran satire I began to wonder if

Monty Python might have been some kind of an influence and of course Martin Luther himself

Known for his earthy humor, but I want to play the

video now, I hope that you folks who are listening keep in mind the the

visual of the videos add a lot to these Hysterically funny

Lutheran satire videos and then we are on radio obviously.

So we don't have the luxury of showing you the video, but I still think you will

find the audio of this video Hilarious.

It was the first time I was the video that I saw that first introduced me to

Hans Feeney's humor and the Lutheran satire videos.

It was Close to st. Patrick's Day a few years ago

and Somebody had posted this on Facebook.

I believe is where I first saw it, but I'm going to I'm going to

play for you the audio of one of Hans Feeney's Lutheran satire videos,

which is st. Patrick's bad analogies.

There we go.

Okay, Patrick tell us a bit more about this Trinity thing.

Yeah, Patrick tell us.

But remember that we're simple people without your fancy education and books and learning and we're hearing about all of

this For the first time so try to keep it simple.

Okay, Patrick.

Yeah real simple Patrick.

Sure, there are three persons of the Trinity the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Yet there is only one God.

Don't get what you're saying here Patrick not picking up what you're laying down here Patrick.

Could you use an analogy Patrick?

Sure.

The Trinity is like Water and how you can find water in three different

forms liquid and ice and vapor.

That's mortalism Patrick what mortalism an ancient heresy confessed by teachers such as no a

test and Sibelius which espouses that God is not three distinct Persons but that he merely reveals in himself in three different

forms.

This heresy was clearly condemned in Canon one at the first Council of Constantinople in 381 AD and those who confess it cannot rightly be

Considered a part of the church Catholic.

Come on, Patrick.

Yeah, get it together Patrick.

Okay, then the Trinity is like the Sun in the sky where you have the

star and the light and the heat.

Oh.

Oh.

Patrick come on, Patrick.

That's Arianism Patrick.

Arianism.

Yes.

Arianism.

Patrick.

A theology which states that Christ and the Holy Spirit are creations of the Father and not one in nature with him.

Exactly like how heat and light are not the star itself, but are merely creations of the star.

That's a bad analogy.

Patrick you're the worst Patrick.

All right.

Sorry.

The Trinity is like this three -leaf clover here.

I'm gonna stop you right there Patrick.

Yeah, hold your horses Patrick.

You're about to confess partialism.

Partialism.

Yes partialism a heresy which asserts that the Father Son and Holy Spirit are not distinct persons of the Godhead But

are different parts of God each Composing one third of the divine and who confesses.

The heresy of partial is the first season at a cartoon program Voltron where five robot lion cars merged together to

form one giant robot samurai.

Obviously I've never heard of Voltron.

Of course you haven't it's not gonna exist for another 1 ,500 years now Patrick.

Yeah, I get what the program Patrick.

I mean really Patrick.

I'm gonna stab you in the face Patrick.

Okay, that was probably a bit much all right.

I'll try again.

The Trinity is like how the same man can be a husband and a father and an employer.

Mortalism again.

All right, then it's like the three layers of an hour.

Partialism revisited.

Fine.

The Trinity is a mystery which cannot be comprehended by human reason but is understood only through faith and is best confessed in the words of the Athanasian Creed

Which states that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in unity neither confusing the persons nor dividing the substance that we are compelled by the Christian

truth to confess that each distinct person is God and Lord and that the deity of the Father the Son and The Holy Spirit is one equal in glory

co -equal in majesty.

Well, why didn't you just say that Patrick.

Yeah.

Quit beating around the bush Patrick now.

Let's all put on some giant green foam hats get riotously drunk and vomit in the Chicago River to celebrate our conversion.

So what do you guys do for a living?

Well, we come from a long line of snake farmers.

Patrick.

But truth be told business has been real bad lately.

Oh.

Yeah about that.

Now Yeah, I have to I have to ask you I know That you are at least

the voice of st. Patrick in that video because I remember I remember when I heard

Your voice when I was having my first conversation with you on the phone.

I said to myself.

Wait a minute.

That's that is.

Now do you do all the voices do you do the Irish accents and all.

Now how about the animation do you do that as well?

Yeah, the technology these days is far more advanced than when I was a kid when I was about

12 13 years old.

I actually had a Camera that was capable a

movie camera that was capable of making Animation and I would have always been artistic

and was an art major in college and I made a few animated films when I was a kid but this has always

been something that is near and dear to my heart and Being a huge money

Python fan as a kid Terry Gilliam was a hero of mine.

And I hope that Terry Gilliam actually gets a hold of your videos because he would probably

find them hilarious as well even though he's to my law knowledge not a Christian, but right I think I think that the

Humor might be universal enough where where he would find it humors as well.

Oh yeah, we're going to our first break right now and If you have a question for

our guests today, oh, by the way before I forget Harold sink bile the executive director of

doxology the Lutheran Center for spiritual care and counsel Said to say hello to you as very

fond memories of you and I interviewed him recently on his book The care of souls

cultivating a pastor's heart and he wanted me to send his greetings.

Oh good.

Yeah.

He's a wonderful man.

Anyone else.

Just a wonderful professor.

Great.

Well, we are going to our break as I said before our first break if you have a question for Hans

Feeney about the Lutheran satire about our subject and appropriate Christian use of

humor or basically if you have A general question on Lutheranism or Christianity as well.

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If you just tuned us in today our guest for the full two hours with just a little less than 90 minutes to go.

Is Hans Feeney who is the Lutheran satire guy?

And he's also the pastor of the River of Life Lutheran Church in Shanahan,

Illinois, which is a congregation in the Lutheran Church, Missouri.

Synod.

Our topic of the day is an appropriate Christian use of humor.

And our email address If you have a question is Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

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Please give us your first name your city and state and your country of residence.

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We have John and banger main who wants to know.

Did you always have a sense of humor even as a kid.

Were you a class clown?

Or were you one of those more quiet people who can express humor in different ways without standing

up in public and telling jokes?

Yes,

I.

Snuck into that movie.

And I'm not advocating this to any children listening, but I snuck into that movie 13 times

with my friends when we were kid back in the days when.

Maybe it still was easy to do that.

But it was really easy to do and I was a kid and.

And that was has always been one of my favorite movies.

Right.

Yeah, I

didn't

know

that

the

Mormons

had fake

swear

words.

We have.

Mary in Cork Ireland who has a question Mary wants to know

do you find humor appropriate when very important and sacred

themes of scripture are used for humor.

For instance an ice -cream parlor owner Might have flavors that

are similar to something like propitiation Pineapple and resurrection raspberry if he

is a Christian who owns an ice -cream parlor.

Is that crossing the line.

Is that using sacred for humorous purposes that is inappropriate?

Yeah, that's something I would not be comfortable with and I've always in my videos I've always

tried that.

When you are

Ideas

or as much

as it

is like

when people

who

claim

that you don't do and I

you had

it certainly

gives you I

think you

got to be care.

Well, thank you,

Mary in

Cork, Ireland.

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beyond.

About the program.

We.

I was certain by the way that the question was going to be whether.

I Actually was blessed

When I did a parody of Martin Luther in song I was blessed.

That a German woman that I know Who is a senior citizen

now and living in a nursing home her husband who is now in heaven with the Lord was from?

Switzerland and she was from Germany and they actually thought that my German accent was spot -on as far as an American

or German speaking English.

Well, that's good easy accent.

Take away from your car.

So it's something that's easy is

what I'm

trying to say.

Yeah.

In fact, I was surprised years ago.

When Brad Pitt Was in a movie who he played an IRA terrorist and

I can't remember the name of it.

Oh, is that the devil's own?

Yes. Yes.

I never saw I never saw that movie, but I'm really proud of my that he.

Yes, yes.

Harrison Ford was a police officer who unknowingly

lets Brad Pitt's character Stay in his home rent a room in his home.

Not knowing that he was an IRA Terrorist and I was surprised That he

was being lambasted by critics.

That is Brad Pitt for having a horrible Irish accent, but in my ears I'm not from Ireland.

But in my ears, I thought he was spot -on.

I've got to ask more Irish people about that.

Yeah.

Let's see here.

We have we have Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island who

says You said before that you are not a fan of potty humor, but wasn't Luther a

big fan of potty humor.

Yes, I had

to clarify

that but yeah in

terms of actual.

If my memory serves me right there is a woodcut of I don't know if it was

commissioned by Luther.

I don't know if he actually created it in himself.

Or perhaps it was unrelated to Luther, but I thought it was connected to Luther where he has himself.

Passing wind in the Pope's face and there's flames shooting out towards the Pope.

Hey, I think that might be a combination of a few things so Luther would talk

a face.

Well,

we have

to go

to our midway break right now.

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If you just tuned us in our guest today for the full two hours with a little less than an hour to go is Hans Feeney

the Lutheran satire guy and Pastor of River of Life Lutheran Church in Shanahan, Illinois.

Our discussion is on the theme an appropriate Christian use of humor and we will be

returning to that discussion Momentarily after I tell you about a couple of events that I hope that you

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appropriate Christian use of humor.

That's Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

Chris Arnson at gmail .com and I assume you're still with us Hans.

I am still with you great.

Well, I am going to play another audio clip of another one of your

Classic videos.

This is Frank the hippie Pope and I hope that you all enjoy.

Hello and welcome to Frank the hippie Pope the show where I say things and Confused

everyone in the world when I say things.

The show works.

You call and ask me a loaded question.

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And then my producer Jeff runs damage control.

That right Jeff.

That's right.

Are you totally psyched for today's show?

Not really.

No, okay.

Caller number one.

What's your question?

Dude, I know right?

It's like there's so many more positive things to talk about.

Like God made butterflies and stuff.

Jeff the catechism of the Catholic Church states since the first century The church has affirmed the moral evil of every

procured abortion.

This teaching has not changed and remains Unchangeable.

Despite his sloppy wording Pope Francis is in no way overturning this position or speaking against it.

Thank you.

Jeff also the reason so many churches Obsess over abortion is probably because approximately 42

million innocent children throughout the world are murdered in the womb every year.

Oh, that's right.

Okay, caller number two.

Dude, God is cool with everyone.

No, Pope Francis is not fine with gay marriage.

He holds to the official position of the Catholic Church which is that homosexual activity is sinful and that marriage is by

nature and God's command the union of one man and one woman.

What the Pope Probably meant was that Jesus died for those who endure same -sex attraction and wants them to find

forgiveness in the life of the church.

Yeah, that's what I just said, right?

You gave the impression that God doesn't require people who engage in homosexual activity to repent.

Well, yeah, but if a guy is like dude, I'm a gay Christian like who am I to judge?

You know, you're the Pope the supreme pontiff Vicar of Christ the head of the whole church and

father and teacher of all Christians.

To you full power has been given to ten rule and govern the universal Church.

According to the group of people that you lead there is literally no one on the face of the planet

more qualified to judge than you.

Oh.

Man, was I supposed to get like a manual with this job?

I forget what I'm supposed to be doing like all the time next caller.

Youth unemployment.

No, he absolutely cannot be serious because that would just be unbelief violence warfare

slavery child abuse murderous persecution of Christians the destruction of the family AIDS malaria Ebola.

Ten things off the top of my head that are infinitely worse than you.

Clearly his high holiness didn't understand the question.

Yeah, let me try that one again.

Can you like reask that?

Carpal tunnel syndrome.

I Can't figure out if that's my favorite one or the the one on st. Patrick.

Now am I speaking to Jeff right now or my speaking.

Yeah,

well, we do

have a question that actually relates very much.

To that comical clip that we just played we have

Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania and She asks is it ever

appropriate to use humor when mocking someone that is infamous?

About something that is so horrible or heretical that they don't deserve any

kind of civil interaction other than to mock them.

Right.

Well, and of course, I think you rightfully included the Pope in that category.

Pope Francis, right?

In fact The conservative

Catholic has Really got a lot to be frustrated over

these days.

Because this this man that they call their Pope is is mind -boggling ly

Leftist and not only I mean the Roman Catholic Church and its magisterium has always

denied Clear and crucial and vital

salvific Doctrines, which is one of the reasons that the Reformation obviously.

Right, right.

Well, I guess I use

the term.

Um, by the way, I am a former

Catholic.

I used the term Roman Catholic in a different way and then and that would be to connect directly to

Trent Right.

Yeah Catholic with a small C.

There have always been a mixture of a Remnant of Christians that were faithful to the

scriptures.

In fact that the Church of Rome executed many of them.

That that would profess to be Catholic.

But yeah, I I should be more careful about my terminology that it was where they formally

denied the gospel.

And also anathematized those that believe in the gospel at the camera.

They're there their response to the Reformation and.

Go ahead.

Obviously

Blast.

I use that

term kind

of lightly

of egregious stuff

and even beyond that the Lutheran.

Yeah, I just

would like that

either

and before you guys did.

And we do have a listener we have CJ and

Lyndon, Hurst, Long Island, New York who says would you consider? the occurrence on Mount

Carmel in the Old Testament an example of where God used

mockery in a way that he actually Obviously chose to be a

benefit to God's people since it is God breathed in the scriptures.

That's

kind

of

one

of

the

right

sacrifices.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, we

have RJ in

White Plains,

New York

who asks.

Do you frequently get complaints about your humor?

And I was wondering if in particular any of those complaints come from fellow Lutherans.

Yeah, I get well.

Generally the way things work is at least for people who

watch

my

videos.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

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We have BB in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania who says I

Enjoy humor very much and I even enjoy hearing a preacher

Occasionally insert something funny into a sermon.

But one thing makes my skin crawl is when a preacher uses The

majority of his message or even a great portion of it to do a stand -up comedy routine.

Does this bother you as much as it bothers me.

Yeah,

I

100 agree and in fact a friend of mine.

When I am in her car going somewhere. She very often has a An

evangelical radio station on and if I'm in the car at this particular time of day there's a

pastor who is telling jokes non -stop through his message and Just

like with Joel Osteen who is constantly smiling.

Yeah I don't think that you can preach the whole Council of God if you're making

people laugh throughout the entire sermon or if you're smiling Throughout the entire sermon you can't be preaching the whole

council of God.

There are things in the scriptures that Are not intended to put you at ease or to make you

smile or make you laugh.

Some things are intended to strike horror and conviction into your heart.

Enables

you right

with

the lamb

on any

right know

that

you're

gonna

preach.

We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York who wants to know.

Do you ever make fun of Lutherans in your satire?

How

about one

where

you have a.

Wisconsin Synod.

Husband who can't even pray at the dinner table with his Missouri Senate.

Yeah, that's really a number of years ago back to

me.

We have to go

to

our final break.

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Before we go to any listener question Hans I would like you to have a few minutes Uninterrupted where you could

summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners about the subject of an appropriate use

of Christian humor.

Sure, but yeah,

so that

there is a

terry

used for this

and that

we're

using humor properly.

When we're

using it and

rightly, but it's never

appropriate believe

is certainly not.

I think this

is you

know, so

a lot of

jokes

about that a

lot of

southern

culture.

For

example,

I

remember

a few

months

ago.

We

have a

listener

who

has

a

question.

We have.

Let's see here.

I had it right in front of me just a moment ago.

Oh Okay, here we go.

We have Robert in Westchester, New York.

Who says in Proverbs 17 verse 22?

The very well -known verse reads a merry heart does good like a medicine.

Do you think that God was intending to teach us that laughter can actually be a Healthy

thing physically for us as human beings.

Well, I

think

that's certainly

true.

I

think

the thing that's

not

the

way it ever

needs place.

He has to settle up.

Created.

He didn't create you

or he

didn't

create.

I don't know if you're a fan of Babylon be.

I am.

And we have Susan and Satoka Long Island, New York just sent me a Babylon be that announces Joel Osteen's

launching of his line of pastoral wear in sheep's clothing.

I would

lovingly admonish.

Well, I loved every minute of

our interview today.

I hope you shared my enjoyment and I would love to yeah, I would love to have you back on the program.

I want to make sure I would love to Our listeners be ready to write this down

for the website of River of Life Lutheran Church in Shenahan, Illinois.

It's our ol Shenahan org Rol ch a n n a h

o n org and of course don't forget about the Lutheran satire website

and that Website is and I just had it in front of me.

Why don't you tell us what the website is.

Because I've disappeared from it.

Sure.

Yes Lutheran satire org.

But yeah, you'll find out great.

Well, I want to thank you if you could hold on.

I want to say a proper goodbye to you off the air.

I want to thank everybody who listened today.

Especially those who took the time to write.

And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives That Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you

are a sinner.