Bevelyn Beatty on the The Great American Race Game

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Welcome to another edition of the Conversations That Matter podcast. My name is John Harris. We have a special guest with us today,

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Bevelyn Beattie. Thank you for joining us, Bevelyn. I appreciate it. And Bevelyn, some of you may know from just national media stories,

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Bevelyn has been out there kind of in an activist way, but she is a Christian patriot who has gone to Black Lives Matter rallies.

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And I don't want to say necessarily disrupted them. Maybe I'll let her say that, but she's certainly opposed them and tried to talk to people who are activists for the left.

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When you talk to a protester for Black Lives Matter, what is it that you're trying to communicate to them?

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And what fruit have you seen from your efforts? Well, this is going to sound foreign to a lot of Christians, because right now, this is the thing.

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Christians have been trained to be kumbaya, and they have taught that Jesus is a white robe fairy walking around in meadows.

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So when you take that approach and you're dealing with people that are violent and want to blame you, and they're willing to take you on as their enemy because they are the victim, how do you approach that?

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There's really not a nice guy approach, because what they're doing is Satan feeds into the nice guy approach, because he knows you're going to be a nice guy.

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He's not going to take the even rougher approach to intimidate you. And the more nicer you try to be, the more he's going to dig in.

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And we've seen this multiple times when it came to dealing with these protesters, rioters, whatever you want to call them.

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So for me, initially, my mindset was, okay, they're coming with pride, and they're coming with this anger, and they're treating you like you owe them something.

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And before we can even get to a clear conversation, right now, it's more of a power match, okay?

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And this is logical when you're dealing with, you know, cops deal with this when they're dealing with, you know, underage children, or even social workers deal with this.

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There's initially a power match that has to happen, and you have to show who has more power or who's not.

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When you're dealing with a bully, you don't take the nice guy approach with a bully. You have to let the bully know, first and foremost, you're not scared of him, and you're as willing as he is.

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And eventually, when a bully sees that you can be bullied, they then subdue, and now you're ready to have a conversation.

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So I have seen in multiple cases where right in front of Juan's Deli, we met a woman, a woman, a man came, a transsexual man.

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And of course, with the rest of the crowd, they're screaming, they're irate. I've taken the approach of, I'm not going to apologize to you for your victimization, and your ranting, and your sense of wanting to bully.

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But what happened was, that person ended up giving my best friend their phone number. My best friend then was able to contact them, and they were not able to communicate, because that sense of pride, first of all, they had to be reminded, wait a minute, you're in a delusion.

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Let's first bring you back to reality, and then we can build the foundation of truth. If that makes sense.

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Yeah, well, that's what's needed is a foundation of truth. And it's hard. I mean, at these protests, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of useful dialogue that's probably going to happen, or thought provoking things.

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But if you got a phone number, and you're able to maybe get through when things are calmer, I mean, it sounds like an opportunity.

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And you wouldn't have had it unless you had already gone, right? The confrontation. That's right.

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That's right. So I have a lot of respect for that. And I don't see a lot of people doing that. You just mentioned that Christians tend to view

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Jesus in this sort of pacifistic way. Do you think Christians in general, you think maybe they're starting to wake up to what's going on around them, through people like yourself and others who are being more aggressive or sounding the alarm?

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Yeah. Because guess what? Pacifist Jesus don't work. Love doesn't rejoice in iniquity.

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Before we can even get to a place of talking about justice and peace and truth, we got to get past iniquity.

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How do we get past iniquity? You know, we were called to be peacemakers, not peacekeepers. Regardless of all of this, this rhetoric and this

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LGBTQ agenda and all of this stuff you're pushing, as much as they're pushing it, I can tell you right now, none of them will ever come to my face and get me to submit.

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So even if they don't like me, and even if they hate me, they will respect me and they will respect my stance of Christ because they know

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Beverly is not budging. Could you imagine if every single Christian stood that way, regardless of how you feel, what your feelings are, whatever the accusations you want to throw, it doesn't matter.

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I'm not budging because at the end of the day, I'm standing on the absolute truth. Well, certainly the strength of your conviction lends credence to the conviction that you have when you are out forward like that and being brave.

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Wanted to talk about the documentary a little because you're the star of this. You're one of them, at least. I think you and Larry Elder are the two kind of big names.

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It comes out July 4th. Great American race game. I've watched. I haven't watched the whole thing.

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I'll admit I did watch part of it. I do want to see the whole thing. I just haven't had the time yet. But of the 20 minutes or so that I watched, it looks like the message that that's being conveyed is one is trying to kind of jolt people out of a group think.

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Do you want to talk about that a little bit? What what's what kind of group think is going on? How does the documentary address this?

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So what I love about the documentary, I'm really not one to kind of go with the black plight and keep it 100 with you because I'm a

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Christian. I believe in just like my mothers and brothers and those who need a word of God and the will of God period. Right. But at the same time,

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I can't deny the ignorant if I didn't acknowledge they have utilized this race situation to push this socialism, communist agenda in the same way.

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It's the same kind of now concept that now is. But only difference is he uses classes. Right.

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In America, you can't really use classes. I mean, you have to use color because we whether people want to acknowledge it or not.

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And you won't realize this until you go to other countries. When I went to Kenya, it's an all black country. Right.

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Everybody's black. So now people are being treated differently. But how so? They're all black. They class.

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If you're rich, you're treated with respect. You're seen as pristine. And if you're poor, you are lower than dirt.

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And the rich treat the poor like that. They have a place as the rich. You have a place as the poor.

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I swear in America, it doesn't matter whether you're a waitress or a stripper. Everybody deserves the equal amount of respect, regardless of who paid or not.

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And in a foreign country, you know who's rich from who's poor. Out here, homeboy could pull up in a minivan and some some some scatchers and be sitting on billiards, you know.

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So there's the sense of equality that America has that people don't want to acknowledge.

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Because again, most of the time they've only been in America. So they take that narrative because they're not cultured, they're not educated.

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They haven't seen things outside of America, which is the greatest country in the world. Right. So now you take the color issue, which is a blessing.

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We're a melting pot. We're a mixture of all different cultures, all different ethnicities.

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And God just kind of created this country to be just a mix that you can't just look like an American. You can be as Asian looking as you want to be, but you can be full of America.

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Right. But because of this leftist agenda, which is a mild communist agenda and a pro -China agenda, the media's pushed it and we bit it.

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And because the Blacks had an issue in the past with racism. So now they've taken that stain that we fixed and they said, it's not good enough.

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There's still an issue. We don't actually know where to point the issue, but there's still an issue. And because Black people,

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I'm going to keep it 100, we emotional, we bite into it. Right. So then we say, yeah, racism.

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Yeah. People still hate us because we're Black. You know, we was once slaves. Yeah. So now we're going to take on the narrative of the guy who can save the day, who can make the better laws, who can give the better benefits to help us with the fact that we're so deprived.

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We're just doing so bad. So now what's happened is the Black community has become the perfect test dummy to what socialism and almost communism will look like.

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And so if anything, this this documentary helps you take the narrative as a whole and help you realize, wait a minute, the

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Blacks were first and we were the test dummies. But if all of America takes this on, what is what is

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America going to look like? It's going to be fatherless. It's going to be it's there's already a laziness.

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You already see it now. Socialism. We've really ran into socialism right now as we speak. Think about it.

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Because of COVID, a lot of our working class has decided to just take that stimulus checks and go on unemployment.

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And because of these different states, especially if you're in a blue state, they've continued to just keep dishing out this money that literally

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America's pulling out of there. But literally, we're selling ourselves over to China right now.

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Right. But in that you don't have enough employees right now. Inflation. Prices is up.

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What I've never seen before on even a piece of chicken. You know what I mean? So it's like we are already getting the taste of what it looks like when we take on this agenda of socialism.

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And of course, like the Blacks, they took on socialism. They took on welfare. They let go of their husbands.

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And of course, they may have been able to live rent free, but there was a price to pay. The home they're living in is roach infested.

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They're living in areas where crime is just running rampant. You have a lot of people who are not working and have more time than they should to get into mess.

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And now you go to Chicago, 70, 70 Black folk are dying a week. It's so sad.

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I know, you know, it is such a dismal situation, especially for those who go and visit the inner cities of this country.

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And they see what's happening in Democrat controlled areas that have been under that control for years. It almost seems hopeless, but it's not.

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As Christians, we never we never give up on hope. We know that Jesus Christ always gives hope and that fundamentally there's a character issue.

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One of the things I saw in this documentary in the beginning when I where I spent most of my time watching is one of the experts had said that between I think it was 1920 and 1940,

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Black people in America had a higher fidelity rate or a lower divorce rate than any other demographic in the country.

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And I didn't know that. I knew it was pretty high. I just or their divorce rate was pretty low, however you want to phrase that.

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But I didn't realize that they were, you know, had a lower divorce rate than anyone.

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And to see what's happened, you know, you can talk about the Great Society, but it's just it seems like a lot of it really comes down to fathers and mothers staying together and raising kids.

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And that's just not happening. And so I'd like to hear you talk about that. What I know we know it needs to happen as Christians.

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Most of the people listening are Christians, but what's what's a practical way of approaching this? What do you see that would work?

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Well, the reality is this. The Black community has to go back to their first love. You want to know why the

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Black community was so strong? Because in our hardest times, we want to depend on Christ and we want to continue to keep these principles.

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And we also knew we were all we had to. So having a family unit was a sense of structure and power back in those days.

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And I'm going to be honest with you, it's still a sense of structure and power. Now, what has happened is the enemy has tricked us through the government into thinking that family unit is in power.

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But it's the most powerful thing that a nation can have. We understood that. What had happened was.

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Civil rights came, we really had equal opportunity in our own way. We may have not had had what the whites had, but it just gave us more of an initiative to build our own.

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So rather than going knock on your door, we were like, OK, well, let's just build our own door. Had the

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Black community had realized, let's just figure out a way to continue to build in ourselves and maintain our identity in Christ.

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That's enough. A Christian doesn't go around knocking on the next man's door to say, hey, treat me equally.

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So let's look at the Jews for a second. Jews were also segregated against, OK, and they were also discriminated against.

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But you know what happened? The Jews continued to build on their own. They continue to build up their communities.

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And now they didn't need to go knocking on nobody's door. People came knocking on their door. And that's just a reality.

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So what I genuinely believe is the Black community has to go back to their first love.

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They have to go back to the principles of Christ. First of all, number one principle, leave your mother and father, cling to one another.

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God hates divorce. Get married. Don't have children out of wedlock because it is sin.

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Right. That's that's a biblical structure off the top. Stop cheating and lying and stealing and killing.

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This is the basic Ten Commandments. Stop coveting. You know, stop committing adultery. You know, surrender your life to Christ and now follow those principles.

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It's the same. But the reality is this. Even if you're not a Christian and you're conservative, God's word is so solid that if you actually practice his principles, you will see those blessings happen in your life, even if you're not a

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Christian. That's how real the word of God is, that even if you don't surrender to him, his word will still manifest truth.

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So if not nothing, take back the same principles of God, which I still say surrender to him because there's so many benefits to serving the

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Lord. It's a wonderful thing. It's the best thing that ever happened to me. But even just in his basic principles, you're going to see the fruit of your life.

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Maybe if you if you stop living in crime, OK, you won't have to worry about the police coming and shooting you up, which is not the case.

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But how many babies are dying at the abortion clinic? How many black babies are being murdered at the abortion clinic?

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You don't think you're going to sow into your life murder when you go and murder your kid? You think you're not going to reap what you sow?

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Wonder why we're dying as much as we're dying in the streets. We're dying the same way in the abortion clinic. What goes up must go down.

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Whatever seed you've sown, you will reap. So we got to we got to change our minds and get back to Christ. Yeah. Amen to that.

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That's for sure. So evangelists, you need to go out into the inner cities just like you would anywhere else and spread the good news of Jesus Christ, which includes repentance.

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I want to ask you this because I think I don't know for sure, but I could see pushback happening there in the documentary.

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There's several points at which one of the and I don't know if you said this, but some of the other people being interviewed said that, you know, they don't see themselves as black.

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And I know this is something that is it's a sensitive area for some people who are black when they think, wait, hold on.

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Like, you have to see yourself as black. I have to see myself as black. The community is so important.

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And I don't know if you feel this way, but I was wondering if you could speak to that.

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And if you do, maybe just defend that a little bit. What is what is that? What are they getting at there? The reality is the contradictions is real when it comes to the left in the black community.

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And I'm going to tell you why. One minute you can be a boy, but you don't have to see yourself as a boy. You could be a girl.

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Right. You could be you could be a dog if you want to. Tomorrow, I'm a trans animal.

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So now you know, you know, you're a trans species. Now they're going to be pushing trans race.

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I mean, we might as well. I mean, if we don't go there, let's go there. I'm black. I'm white. I don't

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I don't look black, but I guess I could just be, you know, I feel white.

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So I'm going to do that right there. So first of all, the black community, if you're going to co -sign the left in their narrative, you cannot complain when someone says they're not black.

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That that's that's hypocrisy in itself. But I will say this. I am a Christian, first and foremost.

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My identity is not in my color. What I look like doesn't make up what the Lord has done to me internally.

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I am intelligent. I'm smart. I'm funny. I'm I got so much stuff going on behind the scenes.

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Yes, I'm saying. So at least let that be the foundation. And of course, through Christ. But am I black?

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Yeah, I'm OK with that. Are you right? Oh, you were right. You know what I mean? The people who said this, what they've done is they want to alienate themselves from this sense of black as a culture to where, you know, if you're black, you eat fried chicken.

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You listen to hip hop. You watch these certain type of movies. That is what identify you as black.

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So we have complaint constantly about being stereotyped. Yet we ourselves have stereotyped ourselves and boxed in ourselves as to who we are based off our color.

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So now if you black, you got to talk a certain way. You know, if you talk like this and you're proper, then you're not black.

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You talk like a white girl. Wait, so do you have to be white to properly speak? Could you not just know how to be articulate?

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You know what I mean? So what we got to do is get out of this color culturism. And I believe that's what they were trying to do.

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So I understand their heart in that manner. But what I will say is, can I relate to the black community? Absolutely.

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But also, can I relate to white people and Spanish people and any other type of people? Absolutely. And if we look past color, we would realize a lot of us can relate to each other on a lot of things.

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Guess what? It doesn't matter what color you are. You probably still suffer the broken heart. I guarantee you, broken hearted people can come together and grieve with one another in that.

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If a plane crashes and everybody's family is on that plane, I bet you those different colors of family members are going to be able to come together and cry.

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You know, my best friend is from Russia. My dad died. She cried with me when her mama died. We cried together.

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She's as light as snow. All of that. But guess what? We felt each other's pain. That should be enough.

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It really should. So this whole black thing, in a sense, as an identity only in color, it has to stop.

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I am a black woman. Yes, but I am more so a Christian. My foundation is

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Christ. And that's what matters most. That's awesome. Well, because what you're saying is that it's not your primary identity, which

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I think because we can't, you know, we have cultures we came from.

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We have geographical areas we came from and people that are in our family and stuff. And and the warts and the blessings come with that.

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And and I'm you know, and I think we're all proud. We should all take ownership and be proud of who we are and where we came from.

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But yeah, as a primary identity, just to see yourself by your skin color, that that seems to be what the very shallow, shallow and the progressive left is making that.

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Well, the primary thing with your skin color is how you vote, apparently, and how you think about politics.

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Well, the movie's coming out July 4th. And and I'm sure a lot of people are excited to go see this in theaters.

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It's going to be out. It's not just a one day thing. It's going to be out for a little while. And so I invite everyone to go out and check out the movie.

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The Great American Race Game. And any final thoughts that you have, Evelyn? Well, I just nine times out of ten, most black folk that will hear about this will automatically ostracize this video.

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I'm going to promise them to not do that. And just watch it and just watch it with an open heart. And even white liberals, just just just just try to take the time to understand where somebody else is coming from for just a second.

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Please just try not to consider yourself and be selfish about your own narrative. But just hear someone else out. Maybe there was some common ground that we can come to in that.

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Solution to the problem. But if there's never going to be an opportunity to really hear your your next brethren out, we're not we're not going to get anywhere.

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So that's really my heart in period point blank. I am a conservative. Yes, I am a

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Christian. But totally my identity is in the word of God and his principles. So where I'm coming from and what

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I'm standing on is based off of that. And I just want people's hearts to be ready to receive it because it's so educational and so real.

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Yeah, well, I mean, I appreciate your bravery. And thank you for coming on and talking to us about this documentary.

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And you're welcome on any time. God bless. Good. Thank you. My name.