Al Mohler's Uncertain CRT Bugle

We have institutions taking this stuff on very quickly. I'm hearing more and more from people that it's backfiring where they've taken it on, and now they want to find their way out. It's like, well, buddy, you made a deal with the devil.

He's going to collect. And that's the end of this, is that it will infiltrate as many institutions as it can, which may go as high as our federal government. It's not impossible. It could happen here, as they say.

And every institution that.

It infects will lose all credibility and collapse. Wow is the only word. Wow. Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. My name is John Harris. You can see if you're watching that I have been using my time wisely by fooling around with graphics.

I don't know what I'm doing. But yes, for half an hour last night, about that long, I guess, I fooled around online and came up with this little cool intro, and it is not finalized yet. But I thought, so many podcasters have really cool intros, and I don't have one.

I just have this flat screen that tells you where you can find my website, and if you want to support me, where you can go to do that on Patreon. That's all I have. But now you can see there's some cool, sort of cool.

I guess it's getting there. I'm phasing myself into the world of podcasters. I've been doing this for, what, a year and a half, and I still haven't arrived. But I'm getting there, slowly but surely. But yeah, so that was fun.

Actually, last night, I was wiped out. I was out all day and doing some work, and so I got home, and there was a documentary that I had read a little article that recommended this documentary, and so I thought, I'll watch it.

It was called, I think, General Order No. 9, if I'm not mistaken. I think that was the title of it. But it's unusual. It's a very unusual documentary. It's a little over an hour, but it's more of a poem set to kind of, I don't know, ethereal music.

There's kind of some classical music at the end, some religious-sounding, almost Catholic-sounding chants, I think. But throughout most of it, it's kind of ethereal. But actually, it was outside of the box, but it was really interesting.

And so sometimes, I will put something on if I have something more mindless to do, and so I was mindlessly fooling around with different things. Among them, graphics, and had my television on. And you can find it on Amazon Prime.

Anyway, General Order No. 9. Tim Keller would hate this documentary. Let me just tell you, this would be like the worst documentary, I think, for Tim Keller because it was actually fascinating. It's all about this guy, I guess.

I don't know if he grew up in Georgia or what, but he kind of focuses on Georgia and the development from wilderness to Native Americans coming to the English coming. And he looks at the map of Georgia, and it's got the formation of counties.

And at the center of every county is a town. And at the center of every town is the courthouse. And on top of the courthouse is the weathervane. And so the weathervane is the center of all. Which is actually, in a sense, that's actually very Southern.

It's kind of that agrarian, the old school Southern. Agrarian mindset, keeping time, not with the clock, but with the sun. So the weather is very important. We kind of live by the weather, and that's what makes our crops either fail or succeed.

And very interesting. So he goes into all that, and that's supposed to be, I guess, that's good. That's a positive. That's life. That's a place where you live. And then modernity comes in, and the interstate comes in, and it bypasses the towns.

And you have this city and all these images of the city, which are kind of dystopian almost, and how mechanistic it is. And it's not a place, it's a machine. And Tim Keller would hate it. Tim Keller would be like, wait a minute.

Because in his eschatology, the city is so important. Because it starts in Genesis with a garden. It ends in Revelation with a city. And so cities are more advanced. That's part of God's plan. He wants cities.

Right? And so this documentary, though, was more looking at cities, kind of more in the Tower of Babel kind of mindset. Not too keen on cities. But it was interesting. I have to say, it was out of the box.

So if you're looking for something out of the box to do while you mindlessly play with graphics or whatever you have to do on your computer, then General Order number nine. There you go. I wasn't expecting to open with that.

Al Mohler, Social Justice, and the Stain of Racism

What I was expecting to do today, which I'm not going to do today, was talk about evangelicals. So evangelicals. I want to call them, I have called them before, broken conscience voters. So evangelicals who are supporting Democrats.

Or they call themselves at least evangelicals. They have some kind of platform in evangelicalism somewhere. And they are signaling their support for the Democratic Party. I was going to bring you some of those screenshots.

I was going to show you where they're coming from, who they are, what arguments they're making, and why they're in error for thinking that we can support the party. At the very least, that murders the unborn.

Now, there's more things we could talk about. I don't know that there's a plank in the Democratic Party that we can agree on. That's compatible with Christian understanding of life. They seem to think that there is a whole lot there to agree with.

So I was just going to go through that. And we're still going to do that. We are going to do that. That's important. But something happened this morning. Some of you might know what it is. Something happened that I wasn't expecting.

And I wasn't even thinking about commenting on it. But I figured, you know, I'll start watching this. I'll see what it was, what it's really like. And as I watched it, I thought, oh, no, I do have to comment on this.

Because I've talked about this many times before. And it's just a continuation of the same theme. But we're going to take a walk down memory row. We're not going to sample everything, but we're going to talk about Al Mohler and social justice, specifically critical race theory.

And the reason is, is because the video I'm referring to is Al Mohler. He had on one of his podcasts, James Lindsay, who wrote the book. I think I have it here somewhere. Cynical Theories, which by the way, I've been working my way through this book.

One of the ways I have several ways I work through books. I have audio books. I have, you know, Kindle. Sometimes I'll have Kindle read things to me. I'll have books that I try to read in, you know, short periods of time while I'm at home.

But then I have a book that I take to the gym with me. And so this has been, this has ended up being my gym book, Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay. And it's very interesting. You can definitely tell that not writing from a Christian perspective, but he definitely understands critical theory.

And, and so this has been, it's an interesting read. Anyway, I'm reading this and then I find out, Hey, the author James Lindsay was on Al Mohler's podcast. I thought, well, that's interesting because I've talked a lot about how critical race theory, some aspects of it, at least have found a home at the campus of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, right under Albert Mohler's nose.

We've talked about, we did a whole video. Maybe you should watch that video first, if you're new, called Albert Mohler or Al Mohler and Social Justice. I'll link to it in the info section. But I talk about what Al Mohler's done, what he hasn't done.

And if you watch Al Mohler's moves over time, what you'll see is anyone who wants to bring accountability in the SBC and makes waves doing it, Al Mohler runs interference. Tom Askle, Russell Fuller, you know, even outside the SBC, guys like John MacArthur telling Beth Moore to go home.

I mean, Albert Mohler should be doing that in the SBC, but instead John MacArthur is the one that does it. And Al Mohler's silent on that. But he tends to, to support people. He tends to defend people like Adam Greenway, when Bobby Lopez came out and said, this is what's going on at Southwestern.

Well, Al Mohler then defends Greenway. When Tom Askle went after Danny Akin because of the hiring of Karen Swallow prior, Al Mohler defends Danny Akin. Al Mohler consistently has done this. He defended Matt Hall.

He defends Jarvis Williams and Curtis Woods. And, and that's just, that's, his public presence has been that. But when conservatives are being attacked, his friends even like John MacArthur or Tom Askle or Russell Fuller, he doesn't lift a finger to help them.

In fact, sometimes he'll even join in. And so I pointed that out in another video. I went through some of the two areas, I think, where Al Mohler has shown that he's got a bit of a liberal vibe. Area number one, we're going to go over some of this.

But he thinks that there's a stain of racism in the Southern Baptist Convention. And it's the kind of stain that just keeps perpetuating. There's no way you can really, I guess, end it. I mean, stains have to be washed.

You have to get rid of a stain. But Al Mohler seems to think that this stain is just perpetual. It just keeps going.

For example, check out this clip. I can't avoid understanding the reality of race and the, and the deadly, deadly reality of claims of racial supremacy, and in particular, white racial supremacy. That's not a theory.

That's a reality. There are ongoing manifestations of this same racism, which is the great stain against the American nation, and the great stain against much of American Christianity.

That is Al Mohler, perhaps the most influential Southern Baptist, I would venture to say, perhaps even more than J .D. Greer, as far as respect goes. He's running for presidency, the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention.

He is the president of the flagship seminary for the Southern Baptist Convention, which is Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He's talking about why he did not sign the Dallas Statement on Social Justice.

He's saying, well, because there's a stain of racism. He talks about it as if it's this perpetual thing. It just keeps going. He doesn't want to seem weak on that. He doesn't want to seem like he doesn't care about that, even though the Dallas Statement has a whole section on what the Bible says about racism.

It's good, but that's why he declined to sign, according to him. Now, he's used this language many times. There's a number of clips, but here's another one just to kind of give you one more example where Albert Mohler is promoting a book that he contributed to along with other, unfortunately, abusers in the Southern Baptist Convention of orthodoxy.

They've signed these statements that are orthodox statements, but yet they promote ideas consistent with critical race theory, and unapologetically so, some of them. I'll show you some examples briefly, but he signs or he contributes to this book and he's promoting it.

Here's what he says in promoting the book, Removing the Stain of.

Racism from the Southern Baptist Convention. In 1995, I think what Southern Baptists wanted to say was that we were born in a racist past. We've been complicit with racism through segregation and Jim Crow all the way to the very recent president.

We're drawing a line in 1995 and saying that was then. This is now. I think that was honest. I think it was wrong, but I think it was honest. I didn't feel that it was wrong in 1995, but the weight of history indicates that was wrong.

What was wrong is that that was then is not over and you can't just say we're drawing a line in 1995 as honestly as you might try to say it and say the past is merely the past. Now we're moving forward.

The sermon I preached to which you make reference was occasioned by my feeling of grief and recognizing the theological complicity of my own denomination in racism and so it was an exercise in biblical exposition and biblical theology in an often neglected text to scripture from Genesis 11 demonstrating that it's going to take everything we've got in the gospel and in the scriptures to escape the trap of history, but we can't just draw a line.

We're going to have to deal it. We're going to have to confront it. We're going to have to recognize the word stain is exactly the right word. It's a stain that we're going to carry as a denomination forever till Jesus comes.

So for those who aren't Southern Baptists,.

Let me interpret real quick. In 1995, Al Mohler was pardoned of an effort to pass a resolution which passed to apologize for any complicity with American slavery and this passed. This happened and then since then we've had a number of other resolutions about racism and other related to racism things, the alt-right, confederate flag, etc.

And so it never goes away. It seems like every Southern Baptist convention there's another resolution that tries to somehow address, lament, apologize for something that has to do with racism. And so they're constantly on this hamster wheel of feeling guilty for this and so there's just a lot of white guilt in the Southern Baptist convention.

And so Al Mohler is saying that it was wrong for us to do that in 1995 because you know essentially what we were communicating was we've drawn a line and that's it for racism, which if you read the resolution that's not really what it's saying.

But anyway, that's what he thinks I guess it was communicating and he's basically saying that that's not possible. And listen to the last line. If you listen to what he says, he says, the stain of racism, it will be with us perpetually until heaven.

Until heaven. That means it's always with us. That means if you're a Southern Baptist, now I'm saying us, I used to be Southern Baptist, but if you're a Southern Baptist, I guess you always had that stain on you.

I mean who would want to join a denomination that's stained like that? Like can never get the stain off. It's like putting on a shirt with a stain. Why would you want to walk around with that when you don't have to?

But that's the way that they're treating their their denomination. That it's just it's always there. Can never, I mean would you take any other actual sin that the Bible identifies as a sin and just say, well you know we just I guess we got hate with us.

We got greed with us. We got pick any sin you want. You know it's just this stain. Stain it's always going to be with us and that's part of our identity somehow I guess. So there's an attempt to wash this stain with the recognition that you never will.

Talk about a discouraging statement. And the book, Removing the Stain of Racism from the Southern Baptist Convention is just that. It's an attempt to essentially get rid of this stain. So what is the book attempting to do?

And I'll read you a few clips from it. Here's a picture of the front cover, Removing the Stain of Racism from the Southern Baptist Convention. It says diverse African-American and white perspectives.

So you already have the standpoint epistemology jumping right at you. These perspectives are shaped somehow by culture or race in this case. African-American and white perspectives. Why is it just out of curiosity, side tangent here, but why is it that white is just so bland?

You know how diverse Europe is? You know how I mean I married a girl who is half German right? And we are both I guess would fit under the white category but I've joked with people. I said we're in an interracial marriage.

And ethnically we're different. Culturally we grew up around similar areas. So we have a lot of shared similarities, but we still have cultural differences. My family from California, her family New York, there's a difference there.

And so anyway, I just think it's bland. I don't know the white thing. It's just white. And then even saying African-American, you know how diverse Africa is, but I do digress as if those are the two perspectives represented in this book.

I applaud the many white Southern Baptists. I'm reading for you a quote here. This is from the book. I just want, this is one quote. I could have pulled a lot of quotes. I want you to just listen to this.

It's kind of long, but listen. I applaud the many white Southern Baptists who respond without cries for justice after the controversial deaths of black men at the hands of predominantly white police officers in Ferguson, Staten Island, Baltimore, and elsewhere.

Various pastors in the SBC and beyond have courageously risked their own ministries because of the race issue by engaging in discussions about race after controversy surrounding the aforementioned deaths erupted.

Sounds familiar, right? Sounds like what we're going through now. I further commend all Southern Baptists who speak intelligently and thoughtfully about matters pertaining to race, the gospel justice, and racial reconciliation.

I am especially thankful for white pastors who have partnered with black and brown pastors in the urban context, sacrificing their ministries and white privileged status within the SBC as a result. There you have that word, white privilege.

You're already seeing critical race theory emerge. Well, let's keep reading. Therefore, in the rest of this chapter, I offer Southern Baptists and anyone else who has years to hear 15 concluding exhortations related to the removing of the stain of racism from the SBC.

So you want to know how to remove the stain? Well, here's how we're going to have to do it. Step one, Southern Baptists should be quick to listen and slow to speak on race when they do not understand the issues.

White supremacy and racism are complicated issues. So here's where we're already, um, where we're going to introduce critical race stuff. When you start to talk about the complexity and how these things are, they're invisible in society, you don't recognize them.

That's where we're going. I continue. These issues relate to concepts such as racialization, critical race theory, mass incarceration, economic inequality, educational inequality, and other forms of systemic injustice.

So we already have disparities means injustice. Speaking ignorantly about these issues is inappropriate. Southern Baptists, especially white Southern Baptists with privilege. There you go again. And without personal experience, their experience, remember experience and truth standpoint, epistemology, fundamental to critical race theory, personal experience of the challenges associated with being a black or brown person in the United States should spend more time listening to their black brown brothers and sisters.

Instead of trying to speak to at about or for them. Jarvis Williams wrote that on page 99. Here's another section from Jarvis Williams. The stain of racism remains in the, in many Southern Baptist pulpits and churches, although they have made much progress.

Jesus, our Jewish savior has purchased some from every tribe, tongue, people, and nation. Southern Baptists need to partner a partnership of all churches committed to our Jewish savior to fulfill the great commission task of gospel centered racial reconciliation, removing the stain of racism from our churches might seem like an impossible task in light of our troubled history.

But if red and yellow, black and white, rich and poor Southern Baptists work together in unity to kill racism within the power of the gospel. And if churches plant gospel center, multi-ethnic churches in the U S the stain of racism will become less apparent in the SBC until the day Jesus returns to redeem Southern Baptists and all Christians once and for all from our troubled past and create a perfectly reconciled future in the new heavens and new earth.

Until that day, many Southern Baptist churches in every generation make daily efforts to erase the stain of racism from the SBC. And there you have it again, Jarvis Williams, page 105, the stains never going to be erased.

It's with us till heaven. You just got to just got to fight this thing all the time. It's always going to be there as part of who we are. Somehow we got to do more. We have to have the multi-ethnic church model, which you don't find that anywhere in scripture.

You find that that's something God produces as you preach the gospel. It's not an end you're supposed to be pursuing. It's not, it's, it's, it's just, it's something that organically happens if you're faithful.

And, and so it's changing the mission of the church. It's, it, this is what's going on in this book. So you don't want to get rid of the stain. Everyone wants to get rid of the stain. Well, this is one of the things you have to do, but even if you do it, you won't quite get rid of it.

It's still going to be there a little hints of it, but you're making progress. Curtis Wood says in the same book on page 170, he goes, Williams chapter incorporates history, sociology, critical race theory, and new Testament scholarship into a candid conversation about the myth of modern racial reasoning.

Now, if you haven't heard of this, the reason is, is probably because hardly anyone on the conservative side has probably read it. There's a lot in this and Al Mohler contributed a chapter to this about specifically, it's the first chapter about removing the stain.

That's, this is what Al Mohler believes is what he has believed for. There's, there's a number of quotations from the past couple of years up until pretty recently. I mean, this, I think this video that I just played for you was from 2018.

I think the one before it was 2019. It's, this is an ancient history that I'm playing for you. So, so where do we go from here? Let me review for you just a few things, a few things. It's not everything that Al Mohler has done or said, signaled his support in whichever direction we're going to talk about it.

And then let's talk about this interview with James Lindsay, because it's going to be fascinating to see this. And, and I want you to have to, I want you to try to make sense of this. And if you're in the Southern Baptist Convention, especially if you're someone who's tried to defend Al Mohler through all the controversies that have happened, it's, this is why I'm doing this.

Just so you know, this is, it's not just a beat up on Al Mohler. This is the last thing I want to do. This guy was, I've explained it before. I should probably say it again. This guy was a hero to me.

It's good. The reason I went to the Southern, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, I wanted to be in the SBC. I liked Al Mohler so much. I used to listen to his program. I mean, it's a, it grieves me.

It grieves me. It really does. And it still does. Even though I've been tracking this shift for a while, it still makes me irritated and upset that, you know, this man that I look to as a hero can be so spineless to, to say the least, and at worst a liberal operative.

How can you say that, John? Well, what are the options that you have? Either he's someone who is incapable of fighting the liberalization in his own denomination. He can't do it, or he's, he fights it everywhere else, but he can't fight it in the very area that he actually has control and influence, or he agrees with it on some level.

It's one or the other. You can't have both. I have my ideas on what it is at this point. I really do. But, but that's, that's the struggle you got, you have to wrestle with as you're looking at him. And it's important we do look at him because if you're a Southern Baptist, you're going to be voting on this guy next year.

You're gonna have to make an intelligent, informed decision. So, so what are his positions? Let's look at a few things. This is what he said after the Founders Ministry video trailer dropped. It's a little over a year ago now.

Yes, folks, I've now seen the Founders Ministry video trailer and I'm alarmed at how some respected SBC leaders are represented. Southern Baptists expect and deserve a respectful and honest exchange of ideas.

I'm convinced we are capable of this. So when Tom Askel and Founders Ministries puts out a trailer for what they're going to be doing in the By What Standard film, Al Mohler says something negative about it publicly, says that he's alarmed, in fact, and insinuates that this, it wasn't respectful.

It wasn't honest. There's lying going on and, and we need a, we need a better dialogue. So, uh, so he, he comes out against that. Now, um, what else has he defended? He's defended Matthew Hall. There's a picture of him.

Uh, this is right at the time Matthew Hall was in trouble because of the videos. There's three of them that were floating around where he said that I'm a racist or I'm a white supremacist. And it's because I benefit from a system that allocates privileges to white people.

And so Matt Hall saying, I'm a racist, I'm a white supremacist. Well, there's Al Mohler and Al Mohler is, you know, saying, Hey, he's signing the abstract and principles here. He's signing our confession of faith.

He's Orthodox. That's what he's trying to show you. He doesn't just put out pictures of him with professors signing, you know, the abstract and principles, but he did it in this case, it was a defense move in the context in which he put it out there.

Uh, breaking Southern Baptist convention leaders released statement on the death of George Floyd. I was glad to join in this statement. I talked about this on the show when it came out earlier this year assumes all the wrong things.

And of course, now we really know that it was assuming the wrong things. This wasn't motivated by race racism. Uh, this was an altercation gone bad. And, um, and now that we're seeing the autopsy, now that we're seeing more information come out, especially there is, there is no cause for the statement that they made and linking this to America's past and racism, et cetera.

Uh, here's another one. Uh, the real network of Southern Baptists, uh, is called the Orlando, the Southern Baptist convention. It's going to meet June 9th, uh, through 10th in Orlando. I'm looking forward to joining you there.

He said this in February before the COVID stuff hit. And this was in reaction. It was the, I think the next day, uh, after the conservative Baptist network formed specifically to challenge ideas like critical race theory in the Southern Baptist convention, Al Mueller comes out against it.

So to speak. Uh, I mean, I don't know how else you interpret that. Uh, they're not the real convention. The real one is the Southern Baptist convention. Uh, and as if you can't have, you know, other groups within the Southern Baptist convention, there's many entities.

There's many associations and groups supposed to believe in church autonomy. Um, here's another one. Uh, this is from 2018. Just realized that today is Dr. Moore. That means Russell Moore, head of the ERLC, the biggest, the branch of the Southern Baptist convention, most responsible for pushing politically liberal ideas.

He realized it's Dr. Moore's fifth anniversary as the president of the ERLC. Congratulations on a historic half decade of leadership and prayers for many more prayers for many more. He likes what Russell Moore is doing on some level because he wants many more.

So, um, what else has he done? Well, he defended or supported in some way, Jarvis Williams and Curtis Woods. I mean, Curtis Woods used it specifically used critical race theory for his dissertation from the Southern Baptist theological seminary.

Jarvis Williams is the one I was just reading you quotes from. Curtis Woods says Jarvis Williams is using critical race theory and it's evident that he was. And here's Albert Mueller saying, Hey, you know, this, this article that they wrote on August of 2019, so about a year ago called the right way to confront racism is biblical and theological and centered.

It was what he says. The right way to confront racism is biblical and theological and centered on the gospel of Christ. Timely word from these two guys who have in their own words, been promoting critical race theory in their own words.

Jarvis Williams said every Christian needs to read ritual Delgado's critical race theory, not to critique it, not to learn apologetics, but because it would enrich them in some way. Here's a quote from the article from where we sit as African American Christians, racism and white supremacy are opposed to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

And they pose a threat to all diverse image bearers in our churches, Brown immigrants and people of color families like Jarvis's with Hispanic wife and a mixed African American and Hispanic son and Curtis's with an African American wife and children are genuinely afraid that white supremacists may murder us and our kids because of the color of our skin.

These fears are present in many of our churches. I mean, these, these guys are conditioned. I mean, really, where do you live? Um, that, that this is such a, something you're so afraid of, but yet this is real to them.

And it's from where they sit as African American Christians. Notice which comes first. The African American comes first. Then the Christian, this is standpoint epistemology. This is we, this is from where we sit with the lens of our social group.

Albert Mueller saying, yeah, this is the right way to confront racism. It's biblical. It's theological. That's where he's been now. Remember how he condemned Tom Askell, right? Tom Askell's well, not him personally, but the founder's documentary, uh, when the trailer was released.

Well, here's what he says about the resolutions committee, which gave us resolution nine, right? Endorsing critical race theory, intersectionality as analytical tools is what he said. Southern Baptists are up to the challenge of talking to one another about difficult questions.

I appreciate Baptist press and members of the 2019 resolutions committee talking here about resolution nine. This is the right tone. I am sure it is released in good faith. So they released their, their statement about resolution nine in good faith, but founder's documentary that I wasn't good faith.

That was lying. Do you see the angle that Al Mueller is playing here? If you want to just say he's political, go for it. Say he's political. Don't say he's conservative and he's fighting for conservative principles.

He's political at the best. At worst he's liberal, right? Knowing what we know, and there's more we could have gone over. Go watch the video I did on Al Mueller and social justice. Now this is James Lindsay.

We're going to go over what James Lindsay has said about the Southern Baptist convention. Okay. And then I'm going to play you the clips of the interview today with James Lindsay and Al Mueller. Here's some of the things that James Lindsay has confronted.

James Lindsay confronted Danny Aiken publicly online, the president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, where I went. I'm not going to read you the whole thing, but essentially he takes Danny Aiken to task for promoting standpoint epistemology.

And the threads right there, you can pause the screen and read it if you want. James Lindsay has gone after J .D. Greer and Jarvis Williams. J .D. Greer, he says, this is from the president of the Southern Baptist convention.

Check your privilege, y 'all. Amen. And it's J .D. Greer's blog from August 5th, 2019, a year ago. Three ways to lay down your privilege. Here's James Lindsay going after Jarvis Williams. Someone asked, does it always end in a binary choice?

I found this person's Twitter helpful as another perspective on standpoint epistemology. Still reading. Are there no social constructs ever that disadvantage subgroups within a given culture? Here's what James Lindsay says.

By the way, I've seen Jarvis Williams pull this about race explicitly using the language of intersectionality. That's standpoint epistemology. Unless you want to say God made the races functionally different.

If so, that's on your heads. So we're kind of entering mid-conversation here. But he's saying Jarvis Williams, yeah, he teaches intersectionality. He teaches standpoint epistemology. Professor at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary right now, Jarvis Williams.

And here's James Lindsay, who is now pretty much the world expert on critical theory, saying, yep, Jarvis Williams, yep, standpoint epistemology, intersectionality. J .D. Greer, yep, talking about white privilege.

Problematic. Here's Beth Moore. Here's all the different times. James, actually, this might even be one thread. I think it is one thread. All the different times. He goes after Beth Moore one, two, three, four, five times in the same thread.

He's saying this is woke conservative Christianity. He's yeah, he's just going after for postmodernism. He said the Southern Baptist Convention is about to split into woke and non-woke. This is in 2019.

Postmodern mythology. I mean, he's really taken her to task. Has Al Mohler ever done this? James Lindsay is not part of the Southern Baptist Convention. James Lindsay claims to be, I believe, an atheist.

He's a secularist, but he is an expert on critical theory and he's against critical theory. He can recognize it in the Southern Baptist Convention, but the people with the power to do something about it can't seem to do that.

He goes after the SBC quite a bit. A couple screenshots here for you. I'm just going to read you a few of them. He says, let's see, for another thing, it's probably worth recognizing that SJW-ism, social justice warrior-ism, is currently infecting evangelical Christianity, even in conservative bastions like the Southern Baptist Convention.

He says that, let's see, says Christianity might teach us to put our faith in God. Critical social justice cannot and thus says we have to be activists. Christians petition God through prayer. Critical social justice tries to change society.

This happens even within faith traditions like the Southern Baptist Convention, which is taking on some elements of critical social justice. He's accusing them of taking those on. Inequities are part of man's world, thus reflect on how far it has fallen from God's world.

But it's up to activists to correct that. This is amazing. This is amazing that James Lindsay is able to understand Christian theology well enough to apply it as an atheist when people that have the reins of power in the convention can't seem to do anything about it when they say they're against it.

It's amazing to me. And there's more. You can look at that. He actually puts Evergreen State College in the Southern Baptist Convention with Resolution 9 in the same sentence. Here's James Lindsay going after Southern Baptist Convention and Southern Baptist Convention seminaries, and he specifically singles out Southeastern and links to their catalog.

He says, here's a social justice major offered at the Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, and I know about the disputes happening there. James Lindsay saying this. I mean, this is amazing. He says the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservative organizations trying to pick up critical race theory and intersectionality is like men taking from Sauron's rings of power, the nine that will eventually turn them into ringwraiths.

Here's James Lindsay going after Resolution 9. The Southern Baptist Convention, they're currently blowing up over what is called Resolution 9. What is a call to insert critical race theory and intersectionality into their official doctrine as an eisegetical tool.

He knows what eisegesis is. He knows what this will do. It's amazing to me that he understands this when so many in the convention itself don't. And he goes on. I mean, he really takes Resolution 9 to task.