Can We Reconcile the Teachings of Jesus Christ with the Teachings of Joseph Smith?

Testing Joseph Smith by Scripture

I know, I go to Enzyme. Oh nice, how long have you been in LDS? Like my whole life. Really, nice. Have you grown up in Utah? No, I grew up in Peru. Peru, wow. Hey, how's it going? I'm Dax. Dax? What's your name?

Giuseppe. Giuseppe, nice to meet you. Wait, is that with a J? What brought you to Utah? Is that? Is that with a J? Yeah. Giuseppe. Yeah. What brought you to Utah? Just school. School? Yeah, just came to study business.

What are you, are you going to a university? Yeah, I go to Enzyme College. Enzyme College, oh nice. Enzyme College, awesome. Nice. Well, so you've been in LDS your whole life, right? Yeah. Are you familiar with the doctrines and the, you know, your doctrines of the LDS church?

Joseph Smith and the Test of a True Prophet

No, I'm new. Okay, so have you heard of the King Follett Discourse? No. So you know Joseph Smith, right? Mm-hmm. You believe that he's a true prophet? Yeah. Okay, so I want to just give you, the Bible says how to test a true prophet, right?

He says, one, they cannot lead you after other gods, you know, do not lead them after other gods, that's how you know they're a false prophet. The other one is that they quote false prophecies. If they make prophecies, then they do not come true, right?

Mm-hmm. So let's keep those two things in mind and let's test Joseph Smith to God's standard of being a true prophet. So Joseph came and he taught that, you know, he says, you suppose and learn that God has been God for all eternity.

He says, I will refute that idea and take away the veil so that you may see that you need to learn to become gods yourselves one day just as all gods have done before you, right? And in the Bible, Isaiah 43 .10, God's speaking to the prophet Isaiah, he says, So how would you reconcile that as an LDS member that Joseph came with a prophecy proclaiming that God has not been God for all eternity, but God clearly stated in his word that he has?

Yeah. So how would you feel then, what do you think about Joseph Smith saying that you can become a god one day when God said that that's not possible, there's no gods besides him? Do you believe God or do you believe Joseph?

I believe God. Okay, so you believe that you cannot become a god one day. So would you then hold to God's word saying that Joseph Smith is a false prophet? I wouldn't say that. So, but remember how I pointed to in the beginning, right?

He says, you know, a false prophet by if they became, if they claim false prophecies and that they lead you after gods, other gods. Well, Joseph Smith is leading you after another god by saying that he hasn't been God for God for all eternity.

As I said, like, I literally just come to know about by praying. Oh, by praying. And, you know, the spirit makes you feel like.

So do you get your truth from praying? You get truth from praying? Absolutely. And reading from the scriptures. So let me, let me give you an analogy, right? So, Giuseppe, right? Yeah. Okay, let's say this.

Let's say that, I love that name by the way. That's awesome. Giuseppe. So would you say, let's just say an LDS member came up to you and said, hey, Giuseppe, I've been praying. I received truth from God saying that, you know, me and my girlfriend can have sex outside of marriage.

That God told me that this is okay. What would you say to that person? Yeah, it contradicts the word of God, right? Nice thinking. So you would take them to the word of God. You wouldn't just rely on their prayers for truth, correct?

So that's exactly what I'm asking you to do, right, Giuseppe? Don't rely on the heart, which God says is infallible, right? He says the heart is desperately wicked, or fallible. Thank you, brother. It's desperately wicked.

You know, it's sick. Who can know it? Don't rely on your heart, Giuseppe, who wants to lead you after another God, just as Joseph's heart did. Rely on the Bible, like you did when you, when you would tell that in the analogy.

So the Bible says that God has been God for all eternity. Don't rely on Joseph Smith telling you that you can become a God one day. That's how you know Joseph is a false prophet. So what would you, how would you reconcile that?

I have no idea.

Like, I don't know. We just have to like, you know, study, as you said, like the Bible. Amen. And see, and see what God says.

Amen, right? And in 1 Timothy, it says, or 2 Timothy, that all scriptures breathe out by God. You know, available for reproof. This is the word of God that we're giving you.

A Former Mormon Testimony and the Deity of Christ

So hold fast to it. Yeah, my brother's right, Giuseppe. I actually want to tell you something. So actually, I was a Mormon. I actually grew up Mormon. I was, I was baptized, I ate, I did the whole baptisms for the dead.

And what happened was, I did exactly what my brother was saying. I did research on scripture. What does the Bible say? What does Jesus say about who he is? What does, what did the Book of Mormon teach?

What did Joseph Smith teach? Because you know, you'd hear, you know, growing up LDS, you'd hear about polygamy and you're like, and you, you know, your family members would tell you. It's all just, you know, it's all just, it's all like, they're making it all up.

Yeah. But the only thing, the thing is though, the Bible actually teaches that. It says, test all things and hold fast to what's true. So what we're beseeching is that, you guys normally have like a different God.

The LDS church believes that Jesus Christ isn't God at all. The LDS church, you know, you would believe that he's Lucifer's brother, right? Would you believe that? What was that? Jesus is Lucifer's brother.

Because they teach that. They actually teach that he's Lucifer's brother. I'm not sure if you knew that or not, but that's what they teach. It's what I was taught when I was growing up LDS.

What? Yeah, they, yeah, that's what they believe.

No, no, no. They literally teach that Jesus and Satan and you are literally brothers. Like spirit, the children of Elohim. That actually is against scripture as well. John chapter 1. In the beginning was the word.

The word is with God. The word was God. If you go down to verse 14, it says, and the word of God became flesh and dwelt among us. Then we beheld his glory. Talking about Jesus. Talking about Jesus. He beheld his glory.

He took upon flesh. That's who is Jesus Christ. The eternal son of God. And the LDS church denies that. And they also deny that men are saved by grace through faith alone as scripture says. Ephesians 2.

For by grace are you saved through faith. Not by works, the steady mind should boast. And the book of Mormon. I know it seems like we're sort of throwing a lot of things at you. It's only just because we love you.

We want you to know God. We want you to know Christ. We want you to be saved. And you grew up in a cult. In a lie. We've been deceiving you. So that's why we're out here. That's what that actually, that track is about.

A Gospel Tract for Mormons and the Call to Read the Bible

So if you read this thing right here. This actually is a gospel for Mormons our church has made. Just so that Mormons can understand the differences between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity.

Right, because you nailed it, right? When I was giving you that Joseph taught that we can become God. You've got to hold fast to God, right? You don't want to just believe man. Because man is fallible, right?

So I want you to just know that. Hold fast to God. Hold fast to the Bible, right? He's revealed himself in his word. Don't listen to the LDS church when they tell you that you're saved by doing good things.

By obeying the audiences of the gospel. You're not saved by that. Paul denies that. Thank you man. I've got to keep going. I'll keep on reading. Absolutely, read about that. Read your Bible. We'll be here next week.

Thank you.