Should We End The Family?

So what's the title of the article?

The title is The Coronavirus Crisis Shows It's Time to Abolish the Family.

Okay, all right. Well, let me have you guys start talking about the worldview behind this, driving this. Let's get into the discussion that would sort of fuel this sort of a thing.

Sure.

Well, I mean, it's a secular humanistic worldview. So the underlying presupposition is gonna be one built on evolution and that essentially what you're gonna find is that what we think of as the nuclear family, when we think of it, we think of it as this thing that God ordained, like it's a building block of how he built the world and the way they think of it is as oppression.

So any kind of hierarchy is oppression. And so, you know, you see in the article them talking about this kind of patriarchal mother-father setup and how, you know, doesn't leave room for queer people or people who have other experiences.

And so basically this idea of the family as normative is this very offensive thing because built underneath everything that they see is this Marxist ideal of like oppression and stuff like that.

Okay.

Right, and it's not biological or natural. It's like a construct. So the way that we, so it's not really like objective, like where, again, as we would believe that there's like a, there's a standard for what a family, what makes up a family, right?

But for the secular humanist, you believe that society created these roles and many times you believe that society created these roles so that there is more power. Yeah, right. So that some people have more power than others.

With that express goal, yeah.

Okay, so I found the spot here. So I will just start reading and if you want me to stop, just say newsflash. So it says

Newsflash, we know that.

Nuclear households. What's, we'll stop there.

Nuclear households.

Explain that to us, some some.

Yes, that's intact, what they call, I think people are calling it intact now. I was reading some statistics or whatever and like the thing now is to talk about the intact family. So an intact family is a mother, a father, and their offspring.

That is a intact family.

Oh, so a family.

A family, yes. Mother, well

Well, because as

No, I know, I'm just

As opposed to an extended family which would involve things like

Grandparents, aunts, uncles, things like that. So the nuclear family is dad, mom, kids.

Okay.

So nuclear households, it seems, are where we are all intuitively, sorry, expected to retreat in order to prevent widespread ill health. Staying home is what is somehow self-evidently supposed to keep us well, but there are several problems with this as anyone inclined to think about it critically, even for a moment, in parentheses, might figure out.

Problems one might summarize as the mystification of the couple form, the romanticism of kinship, and the sanitization of the fundamentally unsafe space that is private property.

Wait, say that last part again.

Uh-huh, yep.

The fundamentally

Unsafe space that is private property. So it's only safe

Dirty dog.

Unbelievable.

It's only safe if you're on property owned by the government, apparently.

Apparently, yeah. No one's ever heard of a concentration camp before, have they?

Yeah, the unsafe space of private property.

It was so safe there, you guys.

And so then it says, how can a zone defined by the power asymmetries of housework, here we go, this is where I was saying they would not like what you said earlier about cooking food and taking care of your husband.

How can a zone defined by the power asymmetries of housework, and then in parentheses, reproductive labor being so gendered, reproductive labor being so gendered, of renting and mortgage debt, land and deed ownership, of patriarchal parenting, and often the institution of marriage, benefit health.

That was a question, all that. How can a zone, and then benefit health, that was all a question. Such standard homes are where, after all, everyone secretly knows the majority of earthly violence goes down.

Like wars in the home.

No, I do wanna address that.

Let me finish, and it says the who, not the band.

We're talking about.

The World Hortho.

The World Hortho.

The World Hortho. The World Hortho.

You got it right.

You're on the right path.

You were on the right path.

The who, I can't even say that without thinking of the band, calls domestic violence the most widespread, but among the least reported human rights abuses.

Right.

Okay.

Well, okay, so.

Not abortion.

Yeah, I would say that just the issue, even semantically, I guess, if you wanna say, is that this person's talking about something that she admits is under-reported, but she makes it seem very widespread.

Yeah.

And also, so even just reading this critically, because sometimes that's all it comes down to. Once you know someone's worldview, you can just read something critically, and understand that she's saying that because there is domestic violence found in the home, that home is not a safe place.

But that's not even a good argument. Like, it's lazy. It's a lazy argument that I'm sure she came up with because of what she believes.

Right, there's presuppositions underneath that drive that.

But it's actually not that coherent. While it's written in kind of a flourished way, it's not actually that great.

Well, think about it logically. People could say there's a lot of violence that takes place inside grocery and department stores during Christmas time. Therefore, do away with grocery stores and department stores.

Doesn't make any sense.

It's non-sequitur. It doesn't logically follow because bad things happen at a place. Therefore, do away with the institution of the place.

How about this? There are doctors that kill children by the millions in clinics. Therefore, we should abolish all clinics.

I think we should actually talk about the abuse angle for a second because I actually heard Christians talking about this today. A lot of Christians are talking about this because the people are wanting to talk about abuse happening in the home with the lockdowns and that is a legitimate concern.

Obviously, it's a very legitimate concern. But what I find super interesting about her argument is that she's saying that because we know abuse, there's abusive situations in the home, like here's all the reasons why we need to abolish the family.

But statistically, we know, I mean, and we know that statistically, the least safe place for a kid to be is in a family that is not intact. We know that by the numbers.

Even technically, and we don't have to get into all the CPS, Department of Child Services, but even in the instance of violence for children statistically, it's better for the child to be in the home and not away, which is why there's such a heavy emphasis in the foster care program on reunification and not adopting out of the family.

So statistically, if you are a child in a fatherless home or you're with even a single parent or whatever, so 90 of all runaway kids are from a broken family. 71 of all high school dropouts are from a broken family.

And last I checked, and this is not Christian numbers that have been skewed, the Department of Justice has recorded that over 70 of the prison population comes from a non-intact family is what they're calling it.

So if you look at the number, the least safe place for a kid currently and in the long run is in a broken family.

So what she's talking, again, as we walk through this, for us, it's kind of like, oh, well, there's the statistics to even back up what we're trying to say. But for her, she's not saying disband this thing that's very natural and normal because there are instances of abuse.

She's saying we need to dismantle the social construct. She believes that this is something that we as humans have created and it's past its time because now we can see how detrimental the family is. So we need to tear the construct down.

There's nothing natural about it.

And so a simple way, this is just rebellion against the very first three chapters of scripture.

That's all it is.

It's just an expression of it. And it sounds so good because it's being funded very well and some highly educated people, but they just can't really ignore the underpinnings of all of society and creation.

This is how God made the world. They don't like it. So how do you destroy God's plan to fill the earth, to take dominion? You have to destroy the mechanism that actually subdues the earth and creates that ability for dominion.

And so what do you do? You go after the children. You see it in abortion, kill the babies.

Why?

Because what does the enemy want? What can Satan do to prolong his time? Kill mankind, kill man, the seed of man to just destroy it. And so it comes in overt ways, like Moloch, kill your children, sacrifice them to this false God.

It comes in overt ways like Planned Parenthood, kill the children. And it comes with less overt ways by saying, let's question this unit here, this family unit. Is it really necessary? Is it really important?

So those sorts of things. That's what it is. It's a revolt against God's order.

So I think the next paragraph, I think the heart of where this person's coming from immediately comes out. So she says, queer and feminized people, especially very old and very young ones, are definitionally not safe there.

Their flourishing in the capitalist home is the exception, not the rule. So I was like, okay, I see where we're going with this. So you're just mad that people that come out and say they're gay and their parents kick them out.

That's your problem. That's why you're upset here.

I also think it's funny that all of the revolt against capitalism and private property is coming from the fingertips of a person who's on a website that was funded via capitalism and private property.

So like revolt against private property. Oh, so does everybody own this website? Or how about Soros and his home? Can everybody walk in and take what they like from his house? Or does he believe in that version of private property?

Or how about your article itself?

Is it your article?

Or can I put my name on the bottom of it and say it was mine?

I wonder if she's making money off of this article.

I wonder if she's being paid to do what she does. It's always such a complete and utter contradiction. It's like the atheist complaining. It's like the atheist complaining about anything. It's like, well, you have to borrow capital from something else in order to get your complaint off the ground.

Like her, she has to borrow capital from a capitalist or biblical worldview, the idea of private property in order to get her thing launched. It's unworkable. It's unworkable. And destroy the nuclear family.

Destroy what God created in human order and you're not gonna have a world anymore. Because either you're gonna kill all your babies or you're gonna have such a broken world that people will set it on fire.

They'll burn it down. Anything else?

Yeah, quickly. So I'm gonna just kind of pick through a couple of quotes. So she goes on to say that a quarantine is in effect an abuser's dream. A situation that hands near infinite power to those with the upper hand over a home.

And then uses quotes from

Wait, hold on. There's some truth in that. But I would say which direction because I would say the abuser's, the quarantine is an abuser's dream. I would say, yeah, I'm the governor of Nevada. I'd agree with that.

And in other places. So in some cases, that could be a true statement. It's an abuser's dream. It's a tyrant's dream.

Also

But which direction?

As a Christian, I think I can say that a household in which a dad abuses the mom, that is not a nuclear family. That's not what we're talking about. That is not natural or normative. And it's not a construct either.

It's not a construct, it's sin. We didn't create this construct where mom and dad have unequal power rights and so dad is in this position to where he'll always lord things over. That's not even the position that we're coming from.

And so for her to use a broken family as an argument against intact families is, doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

There's a problem with unbelief is a woman like her is a fool, according to the biblical worldview, in terms of not submitting to God's truth, his wisdom, his knowledge. She won't submit herself to God, so she becomes a fool.

So she doesn't have a concept of sin. So all she can do is look at the world and say, yeah, things are obviously screwed up here. So it must be institutional. She can't boil it down to this is sin against a holy God, God's defined it, and it's a problem of the heart.

She sees it as a problem of institution rather than a problem of the heart in the institution. And that's the issue, is that this woman doesn't have a workable worldview. She's abandoned the creator-creation distinction and God's order.

And so she's trying to figure out how to manage all of this, but she can't just call it sin.

Right, right.

So then she goes on to quote someone from China, China, because we know that they're ethically and morally superior to us in how they handle things. And she said, the quote is that, according to our statistics in China, China, 90 of the causes of violence are related to the COVID -19 epidemic.

90%.

90

Also, that's a horribly vague statistic that she just gave.

Of violence?

Of what?

How do you figure that out?

How do you figure it out?

Violence in the home?

Who figured this out?

Right, there's no way to accurately record that. And also, what is the violence you recorded? Is it when a brother hits a sister?

Also, are we starting to trust China in their numbers right now? Exactly my point.

China.

China.

Yeah, we don't trust how many deceased they're reporting, but we trust their domestic violence statistics.

Yeah, we know they really care about violence over there.

And protecting people.

Because communism works. It's done so well over the last 100, it's great, guys.

So then just kind of wrap it up. In short, the pandemic is no time to forget about family abolition. In the words of feminist theorist and mother Madeline Lane McKinley, households are capitalism's pressure cookers.

This crisis will see a surge in. Sorry, Joy's reading along so she knows why I'm laughing. Let me try that again. I can't say it without laughing. This crisis will see a surge in housework, cleaning, cooking, caretaking, but also child abuse, molestation, intimate partner rape, psychological torture, and more.

This is so bad.

Far from a time to acquiesce to family values ideology, then the pandemic is an acutely important time to provision, evacuate, and generally empower survivors of, and refugees from, the nuclear household.

Refugees.

Refugees, yeah, all the guys.

Well, and so, yeah, all those things that she listed, if we just get rid of the family, they'll all stop happening.

Right, yeah.

This is like every, it's, cleaning, cooking, housework, caretaking.

This is like a teenager that just hated their parents and never grew up.

Never wanted to do chores.

I can't wait to get out of the house.

My mom made me do the dishes.

There's been a surge in housework.

The reproductive labor is unfair. I had chores and slavery.

It's slavery.

I worked without pay, guys.

I really like the part where she was upset that reproductive labor was gendered.

Right.

Yeah, I know, go figure.

Because that's where babies come from.

Right.

Is that what she meant by that? Like, women have to do it?

Women have to do all that reproductive work.

Here's a person who came out of a woman going, complaining about it. Yeah, right.

Well, that is where you just see this is hatred for God. Like, I'm so mad that women give birth. Like, that is legit. You just woke up hating God today.

Yep.

Because it's so nonsensical. Like, no one's looking at a group of primates, of monkeys in the jungle going, I can't believe all the women are having the babies. Like, that's not a thing. This is just God hatred.

Yes.