No GAP in between!

Hello, good evening. This is Truth in Love. Thank you for joining me. I really appreciate spending time with you and talking about Jesus, talking about God's Word, and reaching out to our community for Jesus Christ.

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So I appreciate you watching. Let's see what else. This is going to be a hopefully a shorter video. And I know that I say that almost every time, but I believe that this is going to be a much shorter video because it's not going to be.

We're not going to be studying, going through verse by verse and looking at, you know, details and going in depth. This is just a little discussion, a little explanation of my shirt and what it means.

And it may some folks may have seen it and not understood the words that it meant or what it means or what I meant by what I said. And I just wanted to give some clarification and some explanations on some of the things that that I believe with this qualifier.

Let me share this before I share with you what I believe. And again, if you have any questions, please ask. Well, the floor is always yours. If I can pray for you, let me know. Just type me and I'll pray for you at the end.

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I have no desire to be popular with popularity comes criticism and nobody likes that. You know, the Lord, I read Luke six this week. I think it's twenty two and twenty three. And the Lord tells us to have joy when when folks speak ill of you and hate you for his namesake.

And yes, we want to do that, but I don't want to go seeking that out. I don't want to do that. And so I'm not looking, you know, to for any kind of popularity or numbers. I just want to join with you to reach our community with the gospel.

And this is Facebook is the marketplace today. And so I thank you for joining with me in reaching out our community. So, hey, Tim, hope you're doing well. It's good to see you guys. Good to see you. And I appreciate you watching.

Thank you so much. Let me make this comment before I begin describing what I mean by what my shirt says and giving you an explanation. Let me give you this qualifier. These are some of the things that I believe.

However, and I don't know what you mean by this next word that I'm going to use. I'm probably going to use some some bigger words tonight, but I want to say this. I'm not a fundamentalist and I'm not sure what you understand that word to mean.

Here's what I mean when I say fundamentalist. Someone who has decided upon a teaching of the Bible and holds on so tightly to it that they can't let it go. No matter what. And they won't even listen to anyone else who says, here's where you may be wrong.

Look at look at this verse. They will not do it. They hold on so tightly to that belief that they won't have a conversation about it. They will even not even. Well, will they not speak to you and look at verses about that belief that may show them that it's wrong?

Not only will they not do that, but they will turn around and talk about you or or call you a heretic or whatever. And they won't even look at their their own belief system. They want you to change yours, but they won't look at their own belief system.

That's what I would define as as a fundamentalist. I may be wrong. And that is my point. That is why I am. I do not consider myself a fundamentalist. It's because I am human and I err and I could always be wrong.

These are just some of the things after after, you know, years of study, after years of listening, looking at scripture, looking at commentaries and what other folks have to say and listening to sermons.

After all that, I have I have changed my beliefs in areas because I'm only human. I err and I am not perfect. So Tim says same here. I'm always critiquing my faith, especially my eschatology. Absolutely.

Because because I can be wrong and I can I want to be teachable. I want to I want to be able to learn and grow. So I am I'm never I will never say that I have arrived. And if somebody has a different belief than me, I'm not going to, you know, shoot them down.

If it's a secondary issue or a third degree issue, not not on the first tier issues, you know, whether Jesus is God, the the issue of the Trinity, the the essentials for for salvation and the gospel, you know, those things are essential and we we must hold firm to those doctrines and teachings.

But when it comes to secondary or tertiary issues. You know, there is there's room for fellowship with one another. And I must admit that I can be wrong and I have not arrived. So with that being said, I present this with with grace and love, knowing that this is this is where I am.

This is where where I have come to in my study and my understanding. And I just wanted to share it with you. But but I'm not dogmatic about it. That means I like I said, my definition of fundamentalism, where you hold on to it so tightly that you you be you're aggressive with other folks that are different than you on the secondary and tertiary issues.

So if if anybody and I know there are many, many, many people who are going to disagree with me on my statements and beliefs, and I open and love conversation because it helps me to grow and learn. And folks may help help me to see things that I had never seen before that will help me to grow.

My only request is when I speak of things that you disagree with, that you offer the same courtesy to me that, you know, I may be able to show you some things that you have never seen before. And, you know, whether you are 80 years old and been in ministry for 80 years, you also cannot say that you have arrived.

So we all can learn and we all can grow from one another. Iron sharpens iron. And that never stops until we're in glory. Right. If you can't be sharpened, then you have a problem here. And I can always I want to be sharpened by my brothers and sisters in Christ through God's word.

And so with that being said, let's briefly talk about what in the world does my shirt say and what does it mean? And it kind of it will give you a little idea of my beliefs on the issue. And actually, the shirt starts at the beginning of the book and and the shirt ends with the end of the book.

It's kind of interesting how it turned out that way. But let's start with the first one. It says, I hope you can read it, see it. It says, I am a creationist. And then, of course, the little slogan at the bottom, no gap in between.

So what's a creationist and what does it have to do with there not being a gap in between? All right. A creationist is someone that believes in in God and that he is the creator and he created all things.

That's it. I'm a creationist because I believe that God created all things. The God, specifically the God of the Bible, tells us that he created all things. He's the creator. And there's there is no if and buts about it.

I guess that would be a a first tier issue. There's no question there. There's no arguing that God, the God of the Bible, is the creator of all things. He's the God of the universe. And so that's what a creationist is in very, very, very simple terms.

A creationist. I guess it could also include it's it's a broad it's a broad statement. And it can probably include what was the movie that that Mr. Stein did something about intelligence. I cannot remember the name of the movie that he did, but Intelligent Design, something like that.

And he he's not a Christian, but he is not. I mean, he's using the brain that God has given him. And it is it is quite evident to him that evolution was not the process in which we were. We got to where we are today, that there is an intelligent designer out there.

And so I guess that creation is creationism is a broad enough term that could include intelligent design, where some people believe that, yes, there is an intelligence out there that that designing created everything.

And other theories could fall under that, that, yes, there is a creator and he chose to use evolution. So so it's a it's a broad category. My where I fall under creationism and creationist is that the God of the Bible says that he is the creator of all things.

He is the one and only true God. And there is no other God besides him and that he created all things. So that's that's what I mean when I say that I'm a creationist, even though other people could claim that title and just believe in intelligent design.

So we add the last part here, no gap in between. So there is a there is different theories on how God created the universe and the method, the process that he used. And this this is one of those theories that, of course, Genesis describes the seven day week.

God created all things in six days. And then there was the seventh day where he rested. And there is there are those folks that believe in a gap theory that in between each day, there is an undetermined, unknown amount of time in between each day that who knows what all happened there.

And even some of these folks believe that there was a there was a pre-albany of Earth. And then there was the first day and then there was a gap and there was a there was a second day and then there was a gap.

And they don't know what happened in those gaps, what the process was or how long those gaps were, or if they were different lengths. They just don't know. They just know and believe. And I guess it's their excuse me.

It is their effort. And this will be one of the explanations. This is their effort to try to push what they've been indoctrinated with from culture, that evolution is true. And so we've got to and I'm also a Christian, so I've got to push this evolution into the Bible.

And so there must have been an undetermined, unknown amount of time between each day so that this process of evolution. Could be true. So what do you have there? You have an outside idea that you're convinced is right.

That you have to create a place within Scripture for that idea to go so that your idea of what happened. Can coincide or mix with what Scripture says. So you have to create a gap in between the days of creation.

And why do I say create? Because I'm a creationist that believes there is no gap in between. That's where the idea from the shirt comes from, that there is no gap in between. Because for there to be a gap or for their explanation or to understand their explanation.

They have to force a gap that Scripture never describes. You won't read about a gap in Genesis. It's just an idea that they say it has to be there. So that reason, example A, the process of evolution could be accomplished.

So we have the gaps. And here I love the ministry of answers in Genesis. I listen to much of Ken Ham's talks and lectures and sermons and other folks from answers in Genesis. And also other folks from other creation ministries.

And this is one of the first things that I learned from Ken Ham. One of the very, very first things. And of course this is going to be one of his foundational teachings. Is speaking of Genesis 1 and a literal six day creation and how he gets that.

And one of his examples, one of the ways that he sees that in Scripture. All you have to do is look at Genesis chapter 1 verse 5. And if you have your Bibles, you want to look along with me. We're first looking at Genesis chapter 1 verse 5.

And it says, and God called the light day. So he created the light and he called the light day. And he called the darkness and the darkness he called night. And there was evening and there was morning one day.

My new American Standard says one day or some versions say the first day. So this is Ken Ham's explanation. So what do you look at first? You look at the word day first. And the Hebrew word for day is yom, Y-O-M, yom.

And that word is used, of course, all throughout the Old Testament in Hebrew, yom, the word day. And the word day in our language and in their language could mean many different things. And he would give you the example like back in my father's day.

Well, that's not describing a literal 24 hour day. That's just describing a period of time back in my father's day. And there's many, many other examples that you could use to describe the different meanings of the word day.

So how do we know that Genesis 1 is speaking of a literal 24 hour day? How do we know that when the word day could mean many different things and an undetermined amount of time? Well, Ken Ham helps us to understand that this word day has three qualifiers.

And in Ken Ham's research, he says that when you look throughout the rest of the Old Testament and you see the word day, yom in Hebrew. Tim says, I agree with you. It is adding to scripture to say that there is a gap in the creation narrative.

Also, it is adding to scripture to say that there's a gap in the 70 weeks of Daniel as dispensationalists love to do. I agree. I agree with you, Tim. And I'm going to I'm going to get to Daniel in just a second.

So I appreciate the comment and. Totally. Yeah, I'm totally on board with you. We're going to get to get to Daniel in just a second. So, yeah. So. Everywhere else in the Old Testament, Ken Ham says where you have the word, I apologize for my stumbling, where you have the word day, the word yom.

And it has it has a qualifier. One qualifier. It could be evening. It could be morning. It could be a number anywhere that the word day has at least one qualifier. It always means a literal 24 hour day.

So that's helping us to to read the Bible in context. What does this word mean? Other places in scripture, letting scripture interpret scripture. What does it mean by the words that it uses and in how it uses those words helps us to understand what it means.

So we interpret scripture with scripture. We look at the context and the context tells us that when you have the word day or yom in Hebrew and at least one qualifier, it means a literal 24 hour day. Now, if you look in Genesis and it's not just with the first day, it does this with every day of the week.

The word day or yom here in Hebrew, it doesn't just have one qualifier. It has three. Genesis says, and there was evening. And there was morning. The first day, three qualifiers. So three times. He is the author is telling us that he is speaking of a literal 24 hour day.

So if that's the intent of the author, that he wants us to understand that the first day, the second day, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh day were actual literal 24 hour days, then there is no room for a gap in between.

And of course, nowhere else in scripture hints at a gap being in between the days of the week, the creation week in Genesis. We just don't get that. Where you do get it is trying to squeeze evolution into the Bible and creating you become the creator.

At that point, you are creating a place for your outside theory to fit with the Bible. And that's the only way that it fits is if you created a place, but Genesis just does not describe a place for a gap in between the days of the week.

And so that's why I say I'm a creationist and there's no gap in between. I'm a six literal 24 hour day creationist. God created everything in six 24 hour literal days and rested on the seventh. So that's where I stand on creation.

All right. Now we're going to go to the second part. Post-millennialist. I am a post-millennialist and I have a hard time saying it. No gap in between. So what do I mean by that? Well, the verse that I reference is Daniel nine.

So we want to go to Daniel nine. And that's where that's where we have the gap theory again. And not only that, but but in my opinion. Well, let me let me start here. Let me let me do some explanation of words.

This is the study of this is one of the views in the study of eschatology. What does eschatology mean? Eschatology is the study of in times or in things. If you ever hear somebody use the word eschatology, that's simply what they're meaning or saying.

The study of in times or in things. And what is most popular is when you when you hear someone talk about the end times, people are looking for certain things to be happening in our future. And this is not what this video is about.

So I'm going to kind of leave it at that. And that would be one view of eschatology or one view of in times. This is a second view of eschatology or how the Bible describes in times or in things. And there's there's another there's a third main view.

And then, of course, under that, there are some some other views, I think. But there's there's at least three main ones. This one is post millennialism. It is a view of eschatology or a view of how the Bible describes in times or in things.

So that's where we are on that. I know it's a mouthful. And if you have any questions, please shoot me a comment and ask me a question. And I'll be glad to try to answer it. So why do we go to Daniel chapter nine?

Well, that's where folks want to try to add another gap theory. And also, I believe that. Understanding Daniel chapter nine. And this section where you have the gap theory. I believe this is just my opinion.

The rest of your understanding of in times hinges on what you believe Daniel chapter nine teaches. Your whole in times theology, your whole in times thoughts and and doctrine or whatever you want to call it.

Everything that you hold on to about that in times hinges on what you believe about Daniel nine. Because if if Daniel nine doesn't say what you may think it does. Then I believe that. And it's my opinion.

That a certain view of in times can hold no water. It just falls apart if what is believed about Daniel chapter nine is incorrect. That's how that's how strongly I believe or important I believe this this Daniel chapter nine issue is.

And and the gap theory within Daniel chapter nine. So where is this gap theory? Where does it come from? Let's look at it real quick. And we're not going to talk about the other. We're not going to get in deep to post-millennialism and what the ins and outs of what what that means or the other views.

Just wanted to talk about the post-millennialist and the part of it that says there's no gap in between. And where we find that is Daniel Daniel chapter nine. All right. So if you have your Bibles, we're in Daniel chapter nine starting in verse 24.

And this this is prophecy. He's he's hearing from Gabriel the angel. And he says 70 weeks. Have been decreed for your people in your holy city to finish the transgression to make an end of sin to make an atonement for iniquity.

To bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up the vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place. So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the prince.

There will be seven weeks and 62 weeks and it will be built again with plaza and moat even in times of distress. Then after the 62 weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary and its end will come with a flood.

Even to the end, there will be war. Desolations are determined and he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week. But in the middle of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice a great offering.

And on the wing of abominations will come to one who makes desolate even until a complete destruction. One that is decreed is poured out on the one who makes desolate. So that was Daniel chapter 9 verses 24 through 27.

That's that's the the key verses there. You really want to look at the whole chapter, but that's the key verses there of where the gap theory is. And I wanted to bring up this this teacher that I that I listened to earlier that this person is pretty popular.

And this person is well known, really well known for applying during the teaching, writing out. It depends on whether they are in the Old Testament or New Testament, writing out so that the audience and the folks watching can see.

They will write out the Hebrew and explain it and then, you know, translate it into English and help you to understand what all the words mean. And they do it in the Hebrew, they do it in the Greek and the and whatever language is being discussed.

That's one of the things that they're known for. And so I listen to this person's teaching on this issue because of the because of the Hebrew and the translation and what was going on to see to see how they line things up, how they interpret it.

And what was interesting to me, just to make this first comment, what was interesting to me was they they looked at the whole chapter of Daniel nine. And when they look at Daniel chapter nine, I think it was verse two.

What Daniel is doing is he is he says he is looking, looking at the books, looking in the books, the number of years which was revealed. So Daniel was among the members of Israel that was taken into captivity.

And Jeremiah said, you will be in captivity for 70 years and then you will return to Jerusalem. And so Daniel is among those there with them in captivity and they are reaching the end of those 70 years.

Oh, hey, Ramses, thank you for watching. I appreciate it. So Daniel is there at the end of the 70 years, part of the captivity, and he's he's looking back at the at the numbers that were revealed. You know, they're they're in anticipation, wanting to wanting this captivity to end.

They're wanting to go back to Jerusalem. And so they're looking for this prophecy and when it will end. And that's what he's doing. And he then he goes through this prayer and this confession. He's praying on behalf of the people.

But this teacher that I was talking about looking at at the beginning of Daniel chapter nine. Speaks of the 70 years that Daniel references that Jeremiah prophesied they would be in captivity. And this person writes out, of course, the Hebrew and lets us know why the 70 years actually meant 70 literal years.

70 consecutive literal years and then went down to Daniel chapter nine, verse 24. And helped us to look at the the 70 weeks and showed in the Hebrew how that that is different than the the 70 years. At the beginning of Daniel.

And showed the different word, the different. I have no idea anything really about Hebrew, so I couldn't confirm or deny. I'm just I'm open to learning. So I was watching and they were showing the difference between 70 years at the beginning of Daniel and 70 weeks here in Daniel 924.

And and how it's different. So Daniel at the beginning of chapter nine, they were saying that it meant and of course it does. A literal consecutive 70 years here in verse 24. The original language actually tells us that it's 770 weeks.

So in other words. A week is seven years. So there's 70 weeks of seven years. Each week is is seven years and there's going to be 70 of them. And so they were talking about the difference between the words and how we know that this one is literal consecutive.

And how this one is different. But this person, as I as I continue to listen, revealed that they are a gap theorist. They believe in a gap here in Daniel. And they also believe in a gap in Genesis. But where I found them inconsistent is.

That they did not take their method of interpretation from Daniel, the beginning of Daniel, looking at verse two. And apply that method of interpretation to Genesis one, where you look at the original language.

You take it in its context. To help understand what the word means and what the passage is saying. They did not apply the same method.

Why?

So that they could insert and squeeze and push in this theory into Genesis chapter one. So you have to force a gap into chapter one of Genesis. The week, the creation week of Genesis. You have to create that gap.

So that you can this this idea will fit into scripture that's that's not originally there. And that's why you become an inconsistent interpreter when you interpret one way in one section of scripture.

But when it doesn't fit your theology, you interpret it a different way in a different portion of scripture. And I want to be consistent with how I interpret God's word. I want to interpret correctly and I want to do that consistently.

So that I'm not trying to squeeze in what I believe that the Bible may not be teaching me to believe. I hope that makes sense. I hope that makes sense to you. So with that being said and making that connection there with Genesis.

Verse 24 does speak, like I said, of 770 weeks. So there's going to be 70 weeks and each week is seven years. It's kind of confusing. You have to think about just a second. But then Daniel divides those time periods up.

This was also interesting about the teaching that I watched. The title of the teaching was, if I'm correct, I don't want to misquote it. So I hope that I'm correct. If I'm wrong, I apologize. The title of the teaching was God is a God is a date setter.

Something like that. God is a date setter. And that was the title of the teaching. And I find that so funny because, you know, to be accurate with that title, the beginning part of that teaching where they are looking at Daniel chapter nine, they say, well, God has set a time for this.

Like speaking of Jeremiah prophesying the 70 years of captivity of Israel. God is a date setting God. And here, you know, he sets the date and it happened. It's like this. And then here in Daniel nine, 24, you know, God set the date.

And this happened and this happened and this happened. But then there's a there's a break in the consistency in that teaching. On the one hand, they're consistent with that title that they gave the message.

God is a date setting God. And so he set the date and it happened is it was fulfilled. And then the break. And then after the break, they become they become inconsistent. And therefore untrue to the their title and what they claim God to be.

Kind of confusing. And so is this issue and topic. But they become inconsistent. Why do they become inconsistent? So that they can take this idea that's not found in Scripture, that but it fits their theology and find a place in Scripture to squeeze it in.

So they have to be inconsistent. So this is how I interpret the Bible. Absolutely. This is I'm quoting, you know, hypothetical person. This is how I interpret the Bible. Absolutely. But I'm going to interpret it different here.

But differently than the way I originally say I interpret the Bible. But it's so that I can squeeze this idea from outside the Bible in. And I don't know why they don't see that inconsistency. It confuses me.

But that's what happens. And that's what happened in that teaching that I was listening to. God is a date setter. And it was, you know, pretty, pretty confident, pretty dogmatic. God is a date setter.

And we go by his dates and this was fulfilled and this happened. But then all of a sudden there's a gap and he's not a date setter anymore. Interesting. So I think what this teacher said, what I want to say next, would probably be consistent with what what a popular view would say.

So that's what that's why I'm going to repeat the teaching as closely as I can remember it. So you have 70 weeks of years. That's that's our time frame. That's the date. And I do believe in that. That's the date that God has said that Gabriel gave from God to Daniel, 70 weeks of years.

And so they're going to be these things that that Daniel records that happen in those weeks of years. And this teacher, which I think is consistent with other people who hold this view or the the other end times view that's different than what I'm describing with mine.

They would say that some of these things have happened. But some of these things have not happened yet. And so therefore, since they've not happened yet, we've got to take this idea of a gap that scripture does not hint at.

It's not in its context. It's not any found anywhere else in scripture. But we've got to have this gap, squeeze it in, find a place to squeeze it in somewhere so that we can say, all right, this fits with my theology.

And maybe that's this makes it more clear why I said Daniel nine. All of eschatology in times hinges on Daniel chapter nine, because if that gap is not in there, then the rest of that end times theology falls apart.

It holds no water in my opinion, in my opinion. And I want to be teachable and I want to grow. I'm just sharing with you what I've seen. So I'm not being dogmatic. I'm not being a fundamentalist. I'm just sharing what what I've seen.

And I'm totally open for discussion and growing and learning. And just trying to share the truth that I believe God has shown me and do it with love. So they believe that some things, some of the things have happened and some of these things have not happened.

And since they've not happened, we've got to have a gap in there. But let's look at the let's look at how Daniel divides up the weeks. Starting in verse twenty five. So are you? So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

And of course, that's one of the things they say has not happened yet. The rebuilding of the there's going to be a rebuilt temple. And I would say that there was and Jesus walked in it and Jesus spoke of it and said, there won't be one stone left upon another.

That was the rebuilt temple. And it was issued. And Daniel speaks of this issue or decree to restore it until Messiah, the prince. Did you catch that? Daniel says until Messiah, the prince, there will be seven weeks.

So this is one division, seven weeks and the seven weeks of seven years. Are dealing with the decree to restore, rebuild Jerusalem and and. And issues dealing with that. So that's what's going on in the first seven weeks of seven years.

And then here he gives the second division and sixty two weeks. It will be built again. So you have seven weeks of seven years and then sixty two weeks of seven years. And if you add the seven and sixty two, you get sixty nine.

So you have sixty nine weeks of seven years. Then they say there's a gap in between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel. So you have one week left. And Daniel speaks of that one week, verse twenty six. Then after the sixty two weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing.

And the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And it's in will come with a flood even to the end. There will be war. Desolations are determined. Now, verse twenty seven.

And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week. There's that last week, the 70th week of Daniel. But in the middle of the week, a lot of people here have three and a half years or three and a half years.

That's within that last week of Daniel. Right in the middle. But in the middle of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering. So you have the 69 weeks and then Daniel describes the last, the 70th week.

And that's when the Messiah will be cut off. The Messiah. What's the context? If you look at verse twenty six and twenty seven, what's the context? Verse twenty seven. And it says, and he will make a firm covenant.

First of all, God is in Scripture. God is the only one that makes covenants with people, from my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding. And then who is the he? You've got to read it in context.