News Roundup: Dawkins, Duncan, and Driscoll

John Harris for the weekend edition here. It is the 19th of April and I hope everyone's doing well. I hope spring is in your area, treating you well. It's just coming to New York where I am right now.

Last weekend I was in Mississippi and it was, it's funny, it was like late spring there, going into summer. It's like early spring here. Flowers are coming up, it's beautiful. You know, and I had a wonderful time.

Thank you. I know some of you do pray for me when I travel and I mentioned, I know to the patrons at Patreon that it was gonna be a little hard for me to go to a memorial service and it was. And so I appreciate that.

And I won't take up too much of your time on the personal stuff, but for those who are interested, it was different for me. I went to a graveside service in California when my grandfather passed away.

And you don't think about these differences, but this was in a church and there was more people there. And so I wasn't even expecting to speak, but then my brother spoke. So I was like, well, I gotta speak.

So I went up there and I almost lost it. And I did record it, but I may not share that. I may never share it, we'll see. It was just, I was just super emotional, but it was really good and had a great time being with family and it's great to have a place.

I realized how blessed I am in that. So many people in this transitive world don't have a place that they feel like they belong. And I think of even like Jewish people who don't go to Israel, right? They live in the United States their whole lives and then they go to Israel and what happens?

Every person I know, all my Jewish friends who have done this, they come back and they say, wow, I could live there. I felt like this was, it was a place that I belonged though they had never been there before.

And of course I have been to Mississippi many times, but I think that I have a sense of that. Like there's a place to belong to, there's a home. There's, especially in the more where we were in the more rural areas where, I mean, it is true.

Old times there are not forgotten. And there's a lot of old stories. There's a lot of just traditions that are still around that are passed down that time just seems to kind of slow down. And I'm grateful places like that still do exist even as they are contending with modernity and the liberal order and all of that.

So anyway, I had a great time and thank you for your prayers. I don't know exactly where to begin. This is gonna be an interesting episode. I think this is gonna be a long episode too. I have a bunch of stuff to talk about and I have so many thoughts.

I debated whether I should do two episodes and maybe we'll do that. But we'll see, if I can talk fast enough, we can get through these stories, then that won't be the case. But there's a few things that I think will interest you more than a few.

And things I've wanted to comment on, frankly, some of them for weeks and I just haven't had the opportunity. If you're on Patreon, I think it's patreon .com forward slash worldview conversation you will know that I've also been doing a lot of writing.

And in fact, the other day, if you're on Patreon, I guess one of the, I don't know if this is a perk. I don't know. But you will see some things I'm doing before they happen. So I wrote this essay on identity politics and the title that I gave it, I don't know if I'll change it, but it was the inescapability of identity politics.

I mean, that already sounds kind of provocative, right? I mean, it catches your attention. What do you mean it's inescapable? And I explain all of that and what I mean by that. But I just sent that to the Patreons and said, hey, give me feedback if you can.

If you get the chance to read it, I would love that. Help me make this better. And so that's one of the things, if you're someone who does support the program in that way, you do get to influence my work and this is gonna go into a book, but I've been doing a lot of writing.

And of course, some of that is in preparation. Probably should have had this pulled up, but it's in preparation for what's happening next week, not this weekend, but next weekend in St. Croix Falls, Wisconsin.

You can come if you're in the Twin Cities area. It's a great place to go. Man, it's not coming up. It's okay. For some reason, this doesn't wanna load. So I wanna give you the page so you can register.

But if you go to johnharrispodcast .com, you can find it. I'll just keep talking, I guess, as this loads. I don't know why my computer's being so slow. Hopefully people are still hearing me. Hopefully it's not my internet connection.

So yeah, St. Croix Falls, right outside of the Twin Cities. It's the Be Not Conformed Conference. And I'll just show you here the list. If I click on this, I hope this works. Yep, there it is. Okay, it's at Eureka Baptist Church and you can see the other speakers, David Wheaton, Pastor Seth Brickley's hosting it.

Dr. Russell Fuller's gonna be there. Jeff Klewer's gonna be there. I mean, a lot of really bold, courageous guys. I mean, I really think this is gonna be great. And you can go there as well. It's, like I said, next weekend and registration details.

You can either go to worldviewconversation .com or you can go to truthscript .com and you can check that stuff out. So there you go. All right, let's get into it, shall we? Where should we start? That was the question I was asking at the beginning of this podcast.

Where should I start? And I think what I'll do is I'll kind of, I'll start with some broader things, just cultural things, cultural news that caught my eye. And then we'll kind of zone in on some more church related, most of it's gonna be church related or Christian related directly things.

But there were some things that caught my eye that I thought, hey, I might wanna talk about that. So as you know, there's a lot of cultural changes going on and Christians aren't the only ones apparently concerned about them.

That was not the video. That was not the video. Now you know everything that I'm gonna say. This is the video.

I'll say I was slightly horrified to hear that Ramadan is being promoted instead. I do think that we are culturally a Christian country. I call myself a cultural Christian. I'm not a believer, but there's a distinction between being a believing Christian and being a cultural Christian.

And so, you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols and I sort of feel at home in the Christian ethos. I feel that we are a Christian country in that sense. It's true that statistically the number of people who actually believe in Christianity is going down and I'm happy with that, but I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches.

So I count myself a cultural Christian. I think it would matter if we, certainly if we substituted any alternative religion, that would be truly dreadful.

Well, which brings me to my supplementary point, which is that, as we know, church attendance is plummeting, but the building, the erection of mosques across Europe, I think 6 ,000 are under construction and there are many more, I mean, are being planned.

So do you think, do you regard that as a problem? Do you think that matters?

Yes, I do, really. I mean, I might have to choose my words carefully. I mean, if I had to choose between Christianity and Islam, I'd choose Christianity every single time. I mean, it seems to me to be a fundamentally decent religion in a way that I think Islam is not.

I think you're gonna have to explain why you say that, Professor Dawkins. Why is Islam profundely

Well, the way

Fundamentally not decent like Christianity?

Yes, I mean, the way women are treated, I mean, Christianity is not great about that. It's had its problems with female vicars and female bishops and things, but there's an active hostility to women, which is promoted, I think, by the holy books of Islam.

I'm not talking about individual Muslims, who of course are quite, quite different, but the doctrines of Islam, the Hadith and the Quran, it's fundamentally hostile to women, hostile to gays, and I find that I like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith.

Well, I might

Okay, that was a few weeks ago, so some of you on social media already have seen that, but I never really said anything about it, and I do wanna say something about it. First of all, wow, because I'm used to, on college campuses, since I've done a lot of college ministry at various places, I'm used to the Richard Dawkins disciples coming at me with how evil Christianity is, like it's the most evil thing that there's ever been, and they usually lump it in with Islam, like they're all bad, but they have a special hatred for Christianity, more than Islam, I'd say, and this is a common joke, actually, in the apologetics world, is that people like Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins, I dare you to go speak against Islam, because if you do it the same way that you speak against Christianity, for example, in the God Delusion, Dawkins has this whole tirade against the God of Christianity, that he's this, it's like all these adjectives, misogynistic, genocidal, whatever, and it goes through all these negative things, hateful, judgmental.

God, I dare you to say that about Islam, and they're never as hard on Islam, and this was just out of the way it was for a long time, and now that they're losing, that Dawkins, especially in Great Britain, is completely losing the culture that he grew up in, he's concerned, finally, and it's too late.

I mean, we tried to, we as meaning Christians, tried to warn about this, and really, actually, it wasn't even Christians, evangelical Christians doing apologetics quite as much as it was conservative, populist, paleo-conservative thinkers who saw immigration as a threat to the culture of the West.

They're the ones that really, I think of websites today that are considered fringe, like VDare, right? Peter Brimlow was warning about these things, and now that those guys are all terrible, they're racist and stuff, but they've been proven right.

What they predicted would happen is exactly what's happened, and Richard Dawkins doesn't wanna live with the consequences of his own decisions, of his own worldview, the things that he's done to attack Christianity have left a void that has allowed Islam to come in, and he doesn't like it, and he says he's a cultural Christian, meaning he likes the cathedrals, he likes the hymns, he likes all these things that only exist because there are people who believe that they were good and true.

He wants to separate them, he wants to get rid of the people who believe they're good and true, we don't need those people anymore, but what reason is there to go into a cathedral? What reason is there to sing songs that contain theological truths that you no longer believe?

I mean, cathedrals are supposed to give you a sense of awe, they inspire you, they're big. You look at them and you think about how small you are in light of the greatness of God. What's the point once you don't believe God is great?

I think that was the title of Christopher Hitchens' book, right, God is Not Great. What's the point? Why even have a cathedral? So the fact, Dawkins obviously is being totally irrational here, but I don't know, I mean, what do you expect?

He's reaping what he's sown, and so do I have compassion? I guess maybe not so much on Richard Dawkins, but I do on Great Britain. I mean, it is sad. I'm not there, I actually haven't ever been to Great Britain, but just knowing what they've gone through and seeing the mirror image happen in the United States, different demographics, different, it's a different country, so it looks different, but seeing similar things happen, for example, in certain parts of the Midwest, there are whole regions now that are pretty much Islamic, and the government and the social institutions have been captured by Islamic people and Muslims, and I'm gonna show you actually an example of that in a minute.

That's sad for the people who live there, who have seen the changes, and it's the call to prayer that, I think in one city, was it? I think they made the call to prayer legal. They're not hearing church bells anymore, that's what they're hearing.

So anyway, it's just the way things are, but we brought it on ourselves, and it's the liberal order that has allowed these things to take place, and you heard at the end of that clip that Dawkins, the reason that he doesn't like Islam is because he sees that as a bigger threat to, so he has the sentimental thing, and then he has his rational thing, right?

So his sentimental thing is like, hey, I like Christmas carols and cathedrals, I like the art. I don't wanna see that go away, but then his reasons that he gives are, well, it seems like Islam's a bigger threat to the liberal order than Christianity because of the way it views women, and that's all he can come up with.

That's not what's driving this, though. There's something deeper inside of him, something more sentimental that he deeply knows there's something beautiful about Christianity, and I don't think he probably wants to say that.

Christianity's just more beautiful, or it's precious to me because this is who I am, and this is the character of my country, and I mean, then you start sounding to the left, like, oh, you're racist, right?

So he's like being very careful here, but the only thing he can say is like, well, Islam's a greater threat to the liberal order because they really just don't treat women well, even though Christianity doesn't too, but so there you go.

Comments coming in. Richard Dawkins is touring the UK and the US. He just asked for suggestions of who to invite on stage with him. I offered a few suggestions on his page. Do you have any ideas who he could invite?

I don't know what that means, to be quite frank. Invite on stage for what? To debate? If it's to debate, yeah, I mean, I don't know. There's good apologists out there that could probably, I mean, I know some of you might think I'm weird by saying this, or maybe you think I should pick, is it, I'm trying to remember his name now.

Big apologist, Mike something. Can't remember his name now, or William Lane Craig. I'm trying to think of like, James White, Matt Slick, maybe, I don't know, but I actually would love to see him on stage with Ray Comfort.

That's who I would, if I could pick anyone to be on stage with Richard Dawkins, it would be Ray Comfort. Not only because I think it would be hysterical because Ray Comfort's a funny guy and he would just take it in good humor, but because I know it's not gonna be this high brow, just like, oh, I've got better reasons than you.

It's gonna be, there's gonna be a gospel presentation and then it's gonna be like, it's gonna be down to earth. The common man can understand what's going on. So that would be my suggestion. Okay, well, now that I talked about that, speaking of cultural changes, it's a little story, but it caught my eye and I figured I would say something about it because a lot of Christians seem to have, in my estimation, an issue here.

So this is not the story. Man, I thought, I don't know what's happening. I'm like totally disheveled here. Okay, there was a story.

There it is.

Seattle line dancing squad says they were booted from competition because their American flag shirts made crowd triggered and unsafe. And there they are. Now I could think of maybe a decent argument against the American flag shirts from the standpoint of flag etiquette.

I was taught that in Boy Scouts. You're not supposed to wear the American flag, but that's kind of like become more popular in especially more conservative circles since I learned my flag etiquette. And I think the people who do that, they're well-meaning.

They wanna be patriotic. They wanna show that they love the United States and that kind of thing. Well, this is now forbidden in certain areas. And I remember when I was in Seattle and Portland, I remember this.

I remember a friend that I was with, we were driving around, we had a contest. So, or like just a challenge. How many American flags could we find? And we couldn't cite, like if we saw it at a post office on federal property, didn't count.

And we had just been in Auburn, Alabama filming the day before. Of course, there are tons of American flags, right? So we're just like, hey, could we find any in Seattle? And I'm pretty sure that we did not find any except the ones that were on federal buildings.

And so it's just a part of the country, more than any other part that I've seen, even more than the Northeast. The Northeast, you still have American flags, I think because of that colonial thing. But in that part of the country, they don't like them, not as much.

And so they see that. So the way that people in, let's say New York, the typical New Yorker might view symbols from the South with like, oh, that's gotta be bigoted or something. That's how someone from Seattle views an American flag.

And how do you know that, John? Because I was in Seattle doing a documentary on the monument issue, asking people what they thought of George Washington. And I couldn't get anyone who liked him. I mean, pretty universally hated in the state that bears his name.

Really, really interesting. And just on the street, asking people questions. So anyway, all that to say, conservatives and Christians out there, it's important. I just had a discussion with someone not long ago about this who wanted to say that, hey, it's good to just kind of make sure that we can get along smooth sailing.

Let's get rid of some of those symbols that make people feel, I don't know, seem divisive. People get upset about them. And I was just like, where are you gonna draw that line? And how are you, what logic are you gonna use to draw it?

The American flag, I mean, it was the flag that flew over the slave ships. It was the flag that flew over the United States Army as they conquered tribes out West. It's the flag that, it was the imperial flag of the United States.

It's flown over the deaths of how many millions of children who have died from abortion. And what do you say to that? Now, I know what I say to that. Those things don't, those things don't define the, those things aren't, you can't reduce the symbol to those evil things.

It's an identity marker of the people of the United States that represents particular things about them. And there's people, you can go back to the symbols of what the 13 stripes mean and the 50 stars and the colors and all of that.

But it's also the flag that my grandfather fought under in World War II, right? It's also the flag. I can start coming up with things that have been shared national experiences, positive things that achievements, we put a man on the moon and that was the flag we used.

And so we don't reduce it down to these things, but we're content letting other symbols go that direction. And so I just wanna caution conservatives. Once again, I've done this many times. It's like, you gotta be careful of that because that will come back to bite you if you let the left, you give the moose a muffin, that's what happens.

All right, well, another story here just from general kind of new stuff is an international, I don't have the video cue because there's too many videos in this podcast as it is, but I'll just summarize.

At an international, I don't know how to pronounce that, Al-Quds Day rally in Dearborn, Michigan, for those who don't know Dearborn, Michigan, high Muslim population, protesters chant death to America.

Speakers at the rally, America is one of the rottenest countries on earth. Israel is ISIS, Nazis, a cancer. Now I checked the video out, it all checks out. That is what happened. People were chanting death to America.

Now, and they don't even have, you know, is that, what is that flag? Is that the Iranian flag? It's not even, you know, these aren't even American symbols. It's like, are you even in the United States at this point?

This is what this has done for us. Now, what do we do with that? How do we think about that? I mean, I think in prior times, this would be considered treasonous. Kind of wanting the death of the country you live in, kind of treasonous, right?

It kind of undermines the order that is allowing you to live there. There's probably laws on the books that actually do condemn that kind of thing and punish it in some way, I'm assuming. But nothing's gonna happen to these people.

That's just, Dearborn, is it part of the United States? I guess, you know, in a technical sense, it's within the boundaries of the map, but culturally, is it American? This is a challenging question for the Proposition Nation people.

This is a question for mainstream people on the right who wanna say, America, there's no religion, there's no ethnicity, there's no, it doesn't, what do they say usually? Like, it doesn't matter where you're from or what you believe.

I think that's what they usually say. Like, it doesn't matter where you're from or what you believe, you're an American, if what? If you subscribe to this common creed of freedom and equality, whatever that is.

These people are saying they want freedom. They're saying they want equality. That's what they're saying. They're saying that Israel, and because we support Israel, doesn't grant that. And so they are championing things that aren't those quintessentially American.

How come they're not Americans? And if there's a question in your mind, if you think like, but they're not culturally American, then you gotta start answering the question, then what is a cultural American?

I'm more brazing this to help people ask these questions. These are questions most people don't wanna think through and ask, but if you live in Dearborn, you don't really have an option. Now, if you live there, and I've met Christians from Dearborn, Michigan, these are your neighbors, they're your mission field.

They're people you have to live with and try to build trust with and do commerce with and evangelize and all of these things. And that's just life. But if you had lived there for decades, you know what's been lost.

And I'm sure that probably grieves many people who live there. By the way, Dearborn, Michigan has one of the best museums, if not the best museum in my estimation in the whole country, and that's the Ford Museum.

So if you ever go there, check it out. It's interesting, because they always did this big classic car collection. And I remember I was there and there's like women with hijabs and stuff walking around.

It just feels like you're, it feels weird. It feels like you're in another country when you're in Dearborn. So, all right. Yeah, chanting death to America should get you a free ticket out of here. It is treasonous, says Betty.

I don't think that's actually, like that's super controversial to say that, but I don't know exactly why, other than, I mean, I know why, but like, it shouldn't be, especially in conservative circles to say like, hey, if you hate it, then, and you're willing to say like it should be destroyed, like maybe we'll find you another country.

Maybe we'll find you one that's better. You wanna be here though. Why do you wanna be here if it's so terrible? Okay, let's talk about some other things going on. I think the first thing I wanna start with is this, just this anti-abortion stuff coming from, frankly, evangelical leaders who kind of, they went woke.

I'll just put it that way. They went woke in 2020 and they've been kind of woke. And I've done some work on that. I've traced down exactly how and why and all of that, but you have Russell Moore and you have J .D. Greer, okay?

And there might've been more, but at least these two. And Russell Moore, there's a story here, MSN, evangelical leader, roasts Republican waffling on abortion, pro-life with three exceptions, rape, incest, and declining poll numbers.

And Russell Moore, I'll give him credit for one thing. He's good at some of those little zingers. Like he does that every once in that. Now, usually they're like totally like, they're just straw men. He makes stuff up, but like, hey, rape, incest, and declining poll numbers.

Like you didn't expect me to say that. You thought I was gonna say life of the mother, but I didn't, because I'm talking about Donald Trump. And so he's on with Anderson Cooper. I'm not playing the video, but he's finally gained the courage to really stand against a leader who's pro-abortion in his mind.

And of course, I already did an episode on this. I don't wanna reinvent the wheel, but I pointed out how like, yeah, Donald Trump has always been for exceptions. I don't see really any, I don't see any change in his policies on this.

I think he's gonna govern the same way. I think he's, I mean, he accomplished more than the pro-life lobby. And frankly, even, I mean, the abolitionist movement included in that, you know, anti-abortion.

I mean, he's accomplished more on a federal level than really any group's been able to do thus far since the Roe v. Wade decision by appointing judges who eventually overturned it. I didn't use to buy that argument, by the way.

I do now. I do now. Partially, I guess it's not the only reason, but it actually happened. So credit where credit's due. Does Donald Trump have a problem? He's always had a problem on this issue because he always wants all these exceptions.

He wants to be pro-life. He wants to limit abortion, but he doesn't want to end abortion completely. So there's not much new, but Donald Trump makes a statement, and there's an opportunity here. And so you see J .D. Greer saying, "'President Trump's statements betrays "'the heart of the pro-life movement.

"'Unborn babies are humans bearing the image of God.'". Full stop. What President Trump said is not pro-life. It's basically just less aggressive pro-choice. And of course, the comments, I knew this would happen in the comments.

So you got Rhett Coppel here. He says, and I know his actual name, is Mostly Peaceful John Bone Enthusiast. Oh, there it is. It's at Rhett Coppel. He's not hiding.

Okay.

"'There are radically pro-choice people,' he says, "'in your congregation, "'and you serve them communion fraud. "'All you're doing here is cynically "'serving your own regime overlord.'". Now, do you remember that?

I talked about it on the podcast a few years ago, that this went all public and everything. He had someone who was radically pro-choice in his congregation, and I think she had some level of authority, if I'm not mistaken.

And is he gonna countersignal Biden in the same way? That's the question. And they often seem reluctant to do that. I know in the past, Greer and Moore have tried to make the argument that, well, there's just this wide array of pro-life issues.

And so they insinuate you can vote Democrat and be pro-life because you care about these other issues, but they're willing to take this bold stand against Donald Trump, which it's interesting. It's interesting that they're finally fighting their fighting legs, and it's on the guy that's probably, at least between Biden, Trump, and I guess Kennedy, if you wanna throw him in there.

Between the three of them, Trump's clearly going to have the most pro-life administration. People against abortion are going to be in strategic positions in his cabinet. And the other two are very ideologically committed to abortion.

So Carl Truman, do I wanna go over this? I might skip this one, guys. Maybe I'll give you like a really, I think I'm gonna have to skip this one. I'm just gonna say this for the sake of time. Carl Truman came out and kind of recycled what we've heard for years about the whole, like, you know, the church.

The church has these two bad options. You know, church has, it's Trump and Biden, these two bad options, and the church kind of transcends these things. And like, we're getting raw deals either way. That's basically the article.

You can read it and tell me if my assessment is accurate. But we've seen this for years, especially since Donald Trump, that there's not a dime's worth of difference. Like, they're both bad, they're both equally evil.

And the thing is about that, the distinction between a friend and an enemy, evangelicals have a very hard time knowing the difference between those two things, or even a co-belligerent, for that matter.

Biden's not a co-belligerent. He's certainly not a friend. He is definitely an enemy. Trump is a co-belligerent on many issues. In some ways, he's probably a friend because he appoints people to strategic positions who are dyed-in-the-wool evangelical Christians pro-life down the whole line.

He's not an enemy in that sense. There might, and there are some issues in which evangelicals are gonna differ with President Trump, but it's like not even a close comparison between him and Biden when it comes to policy, when it comes to how they govern.

But it reminds me of John Piper. Remember John Piper did that whole article where he was saying Trump has these character flaws. It's like, well, he does, but those character flaws might make him a person who has a bad character on a personal level especially, but they don't identify him as a threat necessarily to evangelicals and the lives that, our civilization, the lives that we want.

On the other hand, the Democrats, their platform is against our civilization. It is not, it's not really even close in that respect. So just wanna point out that logic is being floated around. We're probably gonna hear more of it as we get closer to the election.

Now, some church news. I said I would get to this. I said I would give you an example here, and sure enough, I am. Concordia University, Wisconsin wishes you a blessed Ramadan. Don't forget, Concordia tomorrow is Kanemara Matsuri.

I don't know what that is, sorry. But yeah, Concordia University. This is a Christian university, supposedly. And I mean, I know even conservatives recently, like within the last year, someone, I don't remember what it was, like a conference or something.

Someone said, yeah, Concordia is not going woke, right? They're okay. I said, I'm pretty sure there are some things there, and can't remember exactly what. It's a smaller university in the Midwest, and I know I've seen some things, but here we go.

So what is this, what's the lesson I wanna draw from this? The lesson is they're located in Wisconsin. Now, like Michigan, you know where else has a high Muslim population because of immigration, Wisconsin.

Don't tell me it doesn't change the culture. If it was liberal neutrality, they wouldn't put this, they wouldn't, you know, a university, I'm thinking more like a secular university, they wouldn't celebrate anything, right?

At least their attempt would be to not recognize, either recognize all or don't recognize any. Christian university, you would think, well, they had the freedom to exist as a Christian university, and they don't have to tip their hat to any other religion.

In fact, that's part of the freedom. But here they are, and I think it's because they're in Wisconsin. That's my guess. And they gotta somehow tip their hat to Ramadan, celebrate, so they have people, I guess, presumably celebrating it at their Christian university, and they're encouraging it.

Yes, that is how you will keep your Christian university. Encourage the students who celebrate anti-Christian holidays or holidays, I mean, you can't, yeah, there's no reconciliation there. You can't reconcile Christianity with that.

Another Christian university recently, Baylor has a professor, Greg Jarrett, and he said, today, in my Harry Potter class. Now, I'm gonna stop there. Now, I did go to college. I have an AA, I have a bachelor's, I have two master's degrees.

I never once saw a class on Harry Potter. Had a professor who liked to read Harry Potter. I thought that was a little unusual. He's a World War II professor. I liked him at Liberty, good guy. That was his thing in his spare time, but he didn't teach a class on it.

So, sorry, they have a class on Harry Potter. No wonder college graduates are having a hard time finding jobs. Can you imagine, they're going to apply for a job somewhere. I don't know, their multicultural studies degree, and they're gonna try to get a job at the factory or something, and it's like, what experience do you have?

It's like, well, I know what it's like to do factory work. I took the Harry Potter class. I'm very familiar with the life of Harry Potter and all the hardship he went through. I think I'd be a good fit.

I mean, I don't even want to ask. I don't understand this. But anyway, he says in his Harry Potter class, they had a hard, very hard, and necessary conversation about J .K. Rowling and her hatred of trans people.

We decided, novelist Rowling, we decided, we decided, who wrote with compassion about diversity, equity, and inclusion, is worth our attention. Twitter Rowling, shame on her. I could probably spend a whole episode just dissecting this tweet.

I hate to say it, because there's so many things in it. But it's a Christian university. This is your professor. And so Megan Basham, thank God for Megan Basham. She catches stuff, she's sharp. She said, hey, you're in violation of your school statement on human sexuality.

Please explain yourself. And the school's policy says, each faculty and staff member and student employee is obligated to be aware and comply with university policies and apparently, included in that is, is expected that Baylor students will not participate in advocacy groups which promote understanding of sexuality that are contrary to biblical teaching.

So there you go. Well, it's happening. You can say, it's like the Constitution. You're like, it's written right here. Well, you could say that all day, that it's written right there, that that's what the law is.

But if you have people flagrantly denying it, what difference does it make? And that's the situation that many of our Christian universities. And to be quite honest with you, I saw a little bit of that, even in my own experience.

I saw that at Liberty University. I remember Karen Swallow Pryor had a book called, I think it was called Cultural Engagement or something. And there was a chapter by Matthew Vines, which advocates for same-sex marriage.

Now that's against Liberty University. But there she is, Liberty sanctioned book signings of her book. And she claims in the, I remember she claimed in the beginning of the book that everyone, I think she used the word orthodox, that all the authors, including Matthew Vines, were orthodox believers.

So here you have a message to students saying, someone who believes in gay marriage and believes that's certainly in line with New Testament teaching or Bible teaching, they're orthodox. It's against Liberty University's code.

I guess I could say their code of conduct. I think there's another document though, but it's against their policies, but there you have it. So if these things aren't stopped, they just continue. There's no way to really, in my opinion, put an end to it.

So this is where, if you're at a Christian university, if your children are going there, just be aware of these kinds of things. Be vigilant if you're a student or a teacher, if you have some kind of a role where you can apply some pressure, be vigilant in those things.