How To Answer The Fool (Atheism)

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This is something that atheists do quite a bit. The universe is hostile. Mm -hmm.

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It's chaotic. Mm -hmm. And therefore man Imposes meaning and morality from his own

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Knowledge and experience on it in order to harness it and control it. That's foundationally an atheistic presupposition

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Because if the universe isn't the handiwork of a good creator God who has inherently endowed the creation with purpose

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With that meaning with that morality and were to recognize that with his revelation as the source of those things

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Right his gracious condescension through his word if that's not the case then you have a chaotic universe in which you have to impose meaning upon and your body has to be a

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Neutral entity that you impose meaning upon which means you can do whatever you want with it And you can do whatever you want with the created world because it's yours.

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There's no It everything becomes contractual right which is where social contract comes from and those things it's not

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God creates and therefore this universe bears the mark of the creator and Therefore he gets to define the terms of how this thing works, right?

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He tells us he reveals how the world works and the laws and the structures that Krauss relies on in order to do physics in the first place

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God reveals all of that and so we have to live in accordance with that in order to operate in the field that he is

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A part of right and at the very beginning of the show if you listen to the first two and a half minutes He says well, I wish the universe wasn't this way, but it is and so we just have to do it

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We have to we have to work with it this way, right? Well, there's a reason that I believe you

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Speaking out of both sides both sides of his mouth. He wants it to be that way because then he can do physics, right?

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But he doesn't because it's an orderly structure that's dependable and There's uniformity that he has to depend on in order to do physics

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And he might say all day long that it's not faith in order to assume that the future will be like the past But it is a faith commitment.

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Mm -hmm every time that he does physics, that's right And so that's just something I would say jumping off is

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Automatically, there's atheistic assumptions smuggled into his explanation of the origins of the universe

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Yeah, and you have to recognize it Yeah, absolutely. And this is really important for those of you guys that are new to this kind of engagement with atheism

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This is critical to get of course the smuggling in of the atheistic presuppositions But also the theft of Christian presuppositions smuggled in as well

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Presuppositions that don't belong to Lawrence Krauss you have to consider for a moment now not just what's on the surface

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What's just being claimed but you have to get underneath that and ask the question Well, what does this man actually believe about himself and us others in the universe itself?

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He believes that all of us are cosmic accidents that there's no justice above any of us There's no ultimate meaning and purpose and value to really anything in the universe much less human beings

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Which are just one more aspect of this accidental universe There's no difference between snails horses rocks dogs and humans in his position

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So we are no different than space dust in his position Now he might want to value human beings, but that's just something again.

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Like you said he's imposing upon others It's a faith commandment that he has in terms of human beings are valuable and you know

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We did things wrong in the past and this is the right way to do things Who says right and wrong when you believe that you're just the random result of mutations from bacteria?

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To fish to some kind of other land creatures moving your way to African apes and here you are

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So here's all these smuggled in Christian assumptions and presuppositions like human beings have value dignity and worth and truth matters

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And we should pay attention to facts and evidence and those sorts of things. We're like, oh wait, wait, wait, just wait a tick

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That's not atheism. At least it's not consistent with atheism It is consistent with a

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Christian view of the universe which you've adopted You've co -opted that position and you're smuggling those presuppositions in which do not belong to the atheist

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You might want to value human beings Dr. Krause you might say that I'd like to value human beings because I'm a human being myself

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And what I want to say is well There's a lot of other creatures in this world that don't value you like you value you who's to say that you're more valuable than the snail or the horse or the tarantula or the rock or the dog or the

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Sea gunk, right? I mean you got lots of stuff living on the surface of the sea

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You know, you have all kinds of things that are alive and you know, what's more valuable you or them?

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There's a lot of people today that think that's human beings We should just start killing off our offspring because we've got way too many dang humans in this world six billion humans

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It's more like 1 billion. We need so if you're gonna have kids You gotta kill those kids because we've got far too many human beings in the world today

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And we've got other things in this world that need our affection and our protection And you know for some people in their minds and this seems so crazy, but it's the truth before God and you know it

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You've heard it. I think I would think you have at this point. There are people that think the trees are more valuable than humans

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There are people that think that and what's your debate with them as an atheist? That's a random result of evolutionary processes just like this bag of stuff

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So who's to say that it that I'm more valuable than it? Just because I am a human being doesn't mean that I get to make that decision

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I'm not caught. I'm not I'm not the cosmic emperor of the universe. I'm not the ultimate standard

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I'm one bag of biological stuff and a universe full of a lot of a lot of other Biological stuff who's to say that I get to make that determination human privilege human privilege.

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That's right Happens to be white human privilege right trees are gonna come for us one day. Yeah, that's right

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Well, there's an outworking and a logical end to the that that explanation of the origins of the universe of being chaotic and that is we need to exercise the utmost amount of control possible over it and so that's where you have an enlarged secular state full of all these competing worldviews in which a

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Few people just impose the morality on them to keep everybody in check and try to keep everybody happy But in the end, it just leads to maximum control because there is no

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And there is no cosmic judgment. There is no cosmic justice There is no ultimate ought and so it's just all about control now raw control and whoever can get in power to seize the most of it and that's all that that worldview leads to is just Destruction ultimately it ends up destroying itself and the power