January 2, 2018 Show with Mike Abendroth on “The Sovereignty & Supremacy of King Jesus”

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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Lake City, Florida and the rest of humanity living on the planet earth who are listening via live streaming at iron sharpens iron radio .com. This is Chris Arns and your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this second day of January and this second day of 2018 to have a very important discussion on the sovereignty and supremacy of King Jesus, but before I Introduce my guest. I just have a prayer request.

I learned today From my dear friend. Dr. Conrad M. Bayway, who's been a friend of mine since 1995. He is a pastor in Zambia Africa Pastoring the Kibwata Baptist Church there. He is a reformed Baptist pastor and seminary professor and seminary president over there in Zambia and a very popular conference speaker globally.

When I first met dr. M. Bayway before he was dr. M. Bayway He Was not nearly as globally known as he is now. In fact, I believe I Heard him preach on his very first trip to the United States. I'm absolutely certain of it now that I think about it and but he let me know and let Many of us know today That unfortunately New Year's Day brought bad tidings for Kibwata Baptist Church.

Armed robbers murdered Andrew Moulin Dema. And I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing his last name. It might be Moulin Dema, but He was one of their 2017 pastoral interns. He was murdered over the weekend he was out of town on personal business when this happened and if you could pray for the family of Andrew Moulin Dema and also obviously the congregation of Kibwata Baptist Church in Zambia Africa, I would greatly appreciate it.

And I know dr. Conrad M. Bayway would greatly appreciate it even more. But today we have on the program Someone who's going to discuss a theological truth or theological truths plural that Very often will come up During discussions on the very thing I mentioned when we hear about the worst kinds of tragedies that have ever Become something that we are aware of.

People wonder how on earth could God be in control of The world and the universe and all things in heaven and on earth and How could that be and him Simultaneously being a loving and gracious and kind and merciful God.

How could those those two things? Simultaneously be true when we witness Horrific things every day on the news and many of us have experienced so many horrific things in our lives some more than others.

But it is my honor and privilege to to welcome back to iron sharpens iron radio Mike Abendroth who is pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church of West Boylston, Massachusetts adjunct professor of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

And he's the author of a number of books including Jesus Christ The Prince of Preachers things that go bump in the church and he's the co-host of no compromise radio. We are discussing The book that he wrote on which is also the theme of our discussion today The sovereignty and supremacy of King Jesus and it's great to have you back on iron sharpens iron radio pastor Mike Abendroth.

Yes, and of course we know that.

Horrific murders and even multiple murders and things like that even happen in the safest of Places on this planet where they when they occur they are much to the shock and horror of those living in that area.

But.

Before we get into this theme. Tell our listeners who may be unfamiliar with you. We seem to have new listeners joining the iron sharpens iron audience every day. So there may be some listeners who have not heard you on no compromise radio and have not heard you on iron sharpens iron radio.

Who will be being introduced to Bethlehem Bible Church of West Boylston, Massachusetts for the first time.

So why don't you tell us something about that? Sure. Well before you know that.

That's exactly what happened today.

Well, Phil and I are friends and many times I've had Opportunities to speak says we'll call my cave in rock. They'll probably go. So I think as happy days as to Laverne and Shirley Phil Johnson is to my.

Keep it to keep something in mind. It's not that you're like less important or lower on the rung of Great guests. It's because of the fact that Phil Johnson is famous for Taking my call sometimes five minutes before my show starts and he'll say yeah, okay.

I'll be on. So that's one of the reasons I he is one of my first phone calls typically when I have a guest that cancels or postpones.

That's right. Well, you called me 40 minutes advance and I took it. So see I've been in New England Central, Massachusetts. About 50 miles outside of Boston for almost 21 years now. Bethlehem Bible Church.

Bruce now. So that makes it very easy to talk about thinking about going back to Judy reminder that no matter what. What are our only one years and I think God perishing to me now? I'm old enough to see to see young men get sick like people here and so.

Boston about 50 miles.

Great, and I have to ask you again. Why do you have that extra C in there?

Well, it's very fascinating because my Service I I'm protected because I know I can't get mad at them or yell or say anything untoward. What's your email address. BBC pastor at BBC church org. And then they'll know exactly and well.

Let us know also something about no compromise radio.

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It's about a half and at 1 .5 speed, you know, you can get done with it great.

Well, if anybody wants to check out No compromise radio, of course wait until this show is over. Go to no compromise radio .com no compromise radio .com and This topic we are discussing today the sovereignty and supremacy of King Jesus.

Although on its surface You would have a lot of agreement with Evangelical Christians or even those outside of evangelicalism who would say I totally believe in that but then when we start to dig deeper as to what that really means and we start to exegete Scripture then all of a sudden the sweat starts to bead on the foreheads of some and the tensions rise and debates disputes and arguments Rise up and It's interesting that I know of in fact, I'm I am friends with some non-calvinist fundamentalist King James only pastors and Christians Who will say it's it's pretty surprising to me actually that they will say the sovereignty of God or the sovereign Lord is nowhere mentioned in the King James Bible, and I'm kind of Taken aback why they would even want to argue against that because they believe apparently or Allegedly or supposedly or they should believe that God is sovereign that he is The Lord of Lords that there is no one who is his equal or superior to him.

So I'm not sure why they would fight against that. But if you could tell us what exactly does that mean the sovereignty of Jesus?

Before I answer that question Chris, you know since I am a radio host who up but I will make this precursor to that question I began to think about. Not just in light of but there were people back in the days of the Bible live under a very.

Then that would help. The Lord's lording he's the Lord and what they're. America. I think the only one we have in all of America. If you're a king in the Bible, so what it was written the Bible both you.

I began to dabble with and study. The doctrine of. Do we then look at those you determines methodology? Well, I am going to now.

Rattle the cage of some of our listeners by Reading the subtitle of your book Which is bowing to the gracious despot. And I know that's going to really upset those who like to think of Jesus only in the way that Hallmark cards refer to him, but one of the reasons I bring that up is that I Think one of the most difficult texts in all of Scripture that non Calvinists Bring up when they are having discussions or debates with Calvinists is 2nd Peter 2 verses 1.

And In the King James Bible, which very often they will be reading from We read but there were false prophets also among the people Even as there shall be false teachers among you who privilege shall bring Indamnable heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and Bring upon themselves with swift Destruction.

And I have heard That the Greek term there for the Lord is despot and I have heard Calvinists Say that there is no indication that this despot being referred to is actually Jesus. And I'm almost certain RC Sproul did not Use that argument From my memory and forgive me those who love dr. Sproul if I'm mistaken, but I'm almost certain He said that Peter was referring to People according to their own profession.

You know, they are claiming that the Lord died for their sins, but they're denying him afterward, but anyway if you could Give me an exegesis of what you think that means Because of the word despot being there.

And then you could also Obviously explain what you mean by it in your subtitle.

Yeah, sure. That's a great question. And when you think about the word despot I wanted to entitled and then you've got the P even denying the masculine redemption. Think about getting out of the land of Egypt.

Pebble teaches limited atonement. Why wouldn't it here? He's not talking about that. He says he's denying the master these people deny the master who brought these an economy of terms using it. Right in a sense that he's not specific.

You know, what the clear it is of Jesus. Oh, so he's not referring to.

Jesus's redemption on Golgotha or Calvary he is referring to the Egyptian deliverance.

Well, if Jesus. In fact, I think they're going to be going. So what kind of redemption really was it?

Yeah, well, that's where we who are reformed look at the Redemption that is claimed by non Calvinists as being impotent. It's really a hypothetical Redemption not an actual one. In fact There have been a few Arminians who have been bold enough and consistent enough to Say that no one was actually redeemed on Calvary's cross.

The only time that that completes that act that Jesus Performed on Calvary is when someone accepts it. That most Arminians are not that consistent logically, but there are some who are theologians especially Who recognize that there is an inconsistency?

In fact, there are some that are logically consistent enough that they reject and I think that they rightfully reject. I'm not saying that they Rightfully reject it as a good thing. But it's a rightful rejection of the term substitutionary atonement because it does not really fit into the Theological scheme of those who are not reformed who deny particular redemption and definite atonement.

Yeah, that's right.

And so here's one particular I've got friends. I'll say, you know, what redeem the Israelites and people need to help. And the master the Lord knows about these people. And by the way, I think perhaps you misunderstood me a little bit in.

Reference to dr. Sproul. From my memory, you know, I'll have to follow up with some further investigation. I did not intend to say that. Dr. Sproul Was in disagreement with you over This being Jesus. I said that he believed that as far as I can remember That he is referring to people According to their profession.

That Peter is referring to people according to their profession. That Jesus bought them. So where he would be in disagreement with you is that he was saying that it is referring to the cross, but it's Referring to people according to the profession of what the cross meant to them.

Right. Yeah, that's. I understand that view and I would take it. It's not you know, an unorthodox view or anything like that. It's a no-pun intended. It seems pretty definite there that he actually and in in grace in the licentiousness.

And so that just shows these people try to say we will not try to do. They're trying to talk about say everything about Jesus because if he is I am going to.

Jesus as King in Relation to Baptism

Forward you before we go to the break or first break. I'm going to forward you a question from our listener in Slovenia Joe. This way you'll have it in front of you. So that during the station break you could read it and Then I'll have you answer it when we return from the break.

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Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and before the break I forwarded you an Email from Slovenia from our friend Joe in Slovenia, and he says dear brothers Chris and Mike.

Thanks for another significantly timely topic. Please touch on the topic of Jesus as King in relation to baptism. I've noticed Often that individuals claiming to be followers of Christ refuse to baptize.

Because of some difficulty this will cause between them and family members. Oh, I'm sorry refuse to be baptized Because of some difficulty this will cause between them and family members of other religions who would not approve.

They state that they are waiting Until family objections are removed. Does scripture teach that new born-again believers are to be baptized as soon as is reasonably possible as a public? Proclamation of the disciples testimony of saving faith or is it scripturally acceptable to postpone baptism until societal pressures?

Against it have passed. What if anything does refusing or delaying baptism say about one's relationship to King Jesus? That's an excellent question because I Sometimes feel like a very lonely voice Amongst even reformed Baptists because I think that Baptists in general and perhaps even reformed Baptists in particular are overly cautious in delaying baptisms because they want to make sure that every eye is dotted and every T is crossed before they dunk someone in the water and Sometimes they will delay that for quite a long time and any and then you have your typical Evangelical church that may have baptisms every Easter once a year.

So somebody's got to wait a year before they go to the beach or something to be baptized. Yeah, some people, you know We'll wait until it's warm so that they can be baptized at the beach. Or some people want to wait till they fly to Israel and they could be baptized in the River Jordan.

I mean, is there any biblical warrant for that kind of thing?

Well, Joe has a great question. Like you said before I answer that to take back of the church so people can do look great. By Joel Beakey. That was providential that you would just put that in your briefcase.

Yeah, see how that is. So that's so fortuitous. So lucky. I mean the chances are that fate would have us so meet.

Anyway.

When it When it comes to by the way I think in Ephesians Tichycus means Chance are lucky and I don't think Paul ever changed his name because I think time Paul looked over Tichycus And he just thought you know what, you know pure God near Tichycus.

What about worship free from another religion arguments a winter profession of faith and said? Oh, no, we have a team of guys who hack through the ice To baptize people because we know we shouldn't wait very long.

By the way, I don't know if you've ever read an Excellent biography by John Thornberry called a pastor in New York the life and times of Spencer Cohn. But he speaks of his own baptism, which was on my birthday, February 14th, but this was in the 19th century and he Sawed through three feet of ice in a lake so that the pastor the local Baptist pastor could baptize him because he did not want to wait a day longer after he came to a genuine Repentance and faith and in Jesus Christ.

Absolutely. Well, I've heard many stories about people. They're in the hospital closer to deathbed. All right, they're on their deathbed is not give fine to tell them demanded a response. It wasn't neutrality.

That wasn't an option. It wasn't denial. It had to be something else and so we have now in and beyond that I think since we also do I do don't pay my college do that kind of nice Jesus as yeah.

In fact the reasons that Joe brought up not that he has these excuses, but that some others have those excuses. Those are the worst excuses to wait for societal Arguments against you to subside is like the worst reason to wait to do something and Obedience to Christ.

I mean people are risking their lives Not only today in other parts of the world to be baptized. But especially in the in the first century people were risking their lives being baptized. Yeah, so basically what happens is it's.

63 AD you know what I make a profession of faith in Christ Jesus and believe. If I wait a little bit longer Maybe it's not going to get any better. Society is not going to applaud in the name of Jesus or in the triune God to get tracked down to be killed.

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